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http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=39175 <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/68.95.141.46|68.95.141.46]] ([[User talk:68.95.141.46|talk]]) 10:15, 26 July 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:Is this an old issue which has since been corrected, or is it current? The material can be added to the article if it is cited in [[WP:reliable sources|reliable sources]] and is encyclopedic. <span style="white-space:nowrap;">-- [[User:Trevj#top|Trevj]]</span> ([[User talk:Trevj#top|talk]]) 13:45, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
:I believe this is the the same issue that resulted in the article being protected [[Talk:Raspberry_Pi/Archive_4#Article_is_now_under_pending_changes_protection|here]]. So far I don't think any reliable sources have been produced - it has so far been mostly POV pushing. '''<
::There are some sources that cover this:
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Are you suggesting that a link to the organization's own forum where people actively working on the problems are discussing it is not reliable??? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/68.95.141.46|68.95.141.46]] ([[User talk:68.95.141.46|talk]]) 23:28, 26 July 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:Largely, no. See [[WP:SPS]]. Sources should be both reliably published and ideally independent of the subject. '''<
:Let me check... Yup, I still have the ability to go on the official Raspberry Pi forum and claim that the Raspberry Pi is made out of actual raspberry pies, and then to make the same claim on Wikipedia using the official Raspberry Pi forum as a source. Do you see the problem? --[[User:Guy Macon|Guy Macon]] ([[User talk:Guy Macon|talk]]) 20:24, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
::mmmm raspberry <s>pi</s> pie -- <small><span class="nowrap" style="border:1px solid darkgreen;margin-top:1px;bottom:1px;font-verdana;background:lightblue" > [[User:Taroaldo|<
::Just licked mine and I can ''confirm'', they're made of raspberry pies. '''<
If you bothered to read the thread I linked, you might notice it is 6 pages of posts from a large number of people in a locked thread. Several of the people work for the organization and this can be verified.
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[[Special:Contributions/80.187.109.172|80.187.109.172]] ([[User talk:80.187.109.172|talk]]) 00:52, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
:Do you have any reliable sources for this? Please be aware that Wikipedia articles are encyclopaedia articles and not technical manuals, material must be supported by reliable sources (published news articles for example, not forums). '''<
::This is like saying that a desktop computer is "useless without the video BIOS provided by nVidea". Because that is what the "blob" is, it is the equivalent of the video BIOS. and other computers also cannot boot without the video BIOS contained in ROM on the video card. This isn't an issue as the blob is freely distributed with the PI, just as the video BIOS is freely distributed with the video card. Just as normal users do not care about the BIOS in their video cards, why should PI users care about this non-problem. You can remark about this technical difference, but not in the context of a "problem". [[User:Mahjongg|Mahjongg]] ([[User talk:Mahjongg|talk]]) 12:52, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
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::Eben Upton said in [http://makezine.com/2016/02/28/eben-upton-talks-about-the-new-raspberry-pi-3/ Makezine] "This 50–60% has moved us over some sort of line, where it becomes a much more credible PC replacement." The audience for this article may be becoming more general. -- [[User:Callinus|Callinus]] ([[User talk:Callinus|talk]]) 12:49, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
== External links modified ==
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== Manufacture ___location(s)? ==
Can anyone source stats on where most Pis are now manufactured? I can find sources from 2013 saying that the plan was in future for most of them to be manufactured in Wales, but nothing more recent saying if that is actually now the case. If it is, it might be worth mentioning fairly prominently as primarily-UK tech manufacture is now fairly unusual (while still not being the same as the Pi having been *developed* in Wales, which it wasn't). [[User:TSP|TSP]] ([[User talk:TSP|talk]]) 14:54, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
==Models==
It would be great if the article could provide enlightenment on the general idea behind the different models. This is very confusing to newbies. To my knowledge, the Bs and B+s are the consumer versions, whereas the As and A+s are the industry models, correct? Thanks, [[User:Maikel|Maikel]] ([[User talk:Maikel|talk]]) 14:35, 20 March 2016 (UTC)
:I've updated the Specifications table to better reflect the division of generations. I think most of the confusion arises from the fact that the second version of the Model B was referred to as the "Model B +", whereas subsequent revisions deprecated the "+" numbering scheme, and instead use numberic delineation, such as "2 Model B" and the "3 Model B". So there are four versions of the Model B, named like this:
:# Raspberry Pi Model B
:# Raspberry Pi Model B +
:# Raspberry Pi 2 Model B
:# Raspberry Pi 3 Model B
:It would have probably been easier if they'd just named them the "Rasberry Pi Model B 1", "Raspberry Pi Model B 2", etc.
:[[User:InternetMeme|InternetMeme]] ([[User talk:InternetMeme|talk]]) 11:50, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
I was about to add new info blocks for the A,B and A+ versions, as I thought they were missing, before realising the information is all under the B+ model info block. I think however, as the B+ v1 RPi and the 2 and 3 RPi's look more or less identical (2x2 stacks of USB on the right), I think it's silly listing them in the 3 blocks. The Rpi B [[File:Raspberry_Pi_Model_B_rev2.0.JPG|frameless|280px]] was the most available Rpi for several years (I have 2), and the Rpi A (only a single USB and no RJ45 connector) [[File:Raspberry_Pi_-_Model_A.jpg|frameless|280px]] was the equivalent to the Zero for the same length of time. So I'm not sure why the most similar, older model, the B+ is displayed, over the distinctive A and B models. Please send me a message if someone wants me to take a more uniform photo of my RPi A, rather than the oblique one I listed [[User:Sibaz|sibaz]] ([[User talk:Sibaz|talk]]) 09:54, 22 March 2016 (UTC)
As an aside, when referencing the RPi, it's useful to know the original model B [http://elinux.org/File:Antijn_raspi_farnell_top.jpg| See Photo at elinux.org] included a populated JTAG header, next to the SVideo connector. This gets in the way, if you try to use some cases (such as the PiBow). Hence I'd guess it's worth being pointed out, in reference material, as it can be a significant different. [[User:Sibaz|sibaz]] ([[User talk:Sibaz|talk]]) 10:00, 22 March 2016 (UTC)
== OS Support ==
Pi is developing quite the range of OS support now. I've hacked in (cough) Diet Pi as it is, in my experience, a stable and very versatile solution. I'm using it for a VPN, DNLA server and even a three variations of Minecraft servers distributed over just two machines. It also comes with at least two desktops (Mate and LXDE) and a bunch of other stuff. Someone should make a page. I'm not connected to the project (save for being a patron) but I believe it deserves a mention. <small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/82.16.170.111|82.16.170.111]] ([[User talk:82.16.170.111|talk]]) 21:00, 10 June 2016 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
== What is "overvolt"? ==
In section ''[[Raspberry_Pi#Overclocking|Overclocking]]'' there is "6 overvolt", "2 overvolt" and "0 overvolt". What does that mean? It is not clear at all from the context.
For instance, is there an implicit unit, like 0.1 volt? In that case, shouldn't the voltage be stated instead, like 0.6 V overvoltage? --[[User:Mortense|Mortense]] ([[User talk:Mortense|talk]]) 10:17, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
:[http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php/384756-How-Overvolting-Works-The-Dangers-of-Overvolting-and-quot-Safe-quot-Overvolting-Technique This] explains better than I ever could exactly what [[overvoltage|overvolt]] is in regards to overclocking. However, you're correct about the unit inclusion, I imagine it ''should'' read {{tq|2v overvolt}} -- [[User:Samtar|'''sam'''''tar'']] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Samtar|talk]] or [[Special:Contributions/Samtar|stalk]]</small></sup> 10:25, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
:: Isn't the correct term ''overvoltage'' (''over'' + ''voltage'')? [[wiktionary:overvoltage|Wiktionary has it]], but in a slightly different context. Or perhaps as an action, ''overvolting'', as in Wikipedia article ''[[Dynamic voltage scaling]]''.
:: BTW, the unit must be lower than 1 volt. 6 volts is way too much; it would fry the electronics. It could be 0.01 volt, +0.06 V for [http://elinux.org/RPi_Hardware#Power the core voltage of 1.2 V] (5% relative change). Or it could be some entirely different unit. --[[User:Mortense|Mortense]] ([[User talk:Mortense|talk]]) 12:45, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
::: Looking closer, yes I think you're right there - I personally would write it as {{tq|overvolting the ''whatever'' by 0.2 volts<sup>?</sup>}} -- [[User:Samtar|'''sam'''''tar'']] <sup><small>[[User_talk:Samtar|talk]] or [[Special:Contributions/Samtar|stalk]]</small></sup> 14:04, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
== factual error in overview ==
Hi, at the bottom of the first section of this article it states that "The Foundation provides Debian and Arch Linux ARM distributions for download,[8]" but they do not--following that link leads to only their download of the Debian based distro. Seeing as the footnote leads to the page that shows the article to be incorrect the article should be updated--I just wanted to post here first in case I was wrong about something. Is there something I missed--otherwise I will edit. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User: Errans | Errans ]] ([[User talk: Errans |talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/ Errans |contribs]]) 12 August 2016 (UTC)</span></small>
: I've now edited the article to reflect the current offering. --[[User:Salix alba|Salix alba]] ([[User talk:Salix alba|talk]]): 08:25, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
== Grammar ==
"Haiku – is an source BeOS clone has been targeted for the Raspberry Pi and several other ARM boards.[96] Work began in 2011 on Pi 1, but only the Pi 2 will be supported."
This does not parse as English, it requires at least two more words to make sense.
[[Special:Contributions/93.155.221.34|93.155.221.34]] ([[User talk:93.155.221.34|talk]]) 09:34, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
== RFC: clear floats before specs table ==
I added a '''div style="clear: both"''' before the Specifications section to create enough vertical space for all floating figures to render. The specifications table, which has become huge lately, can then take up the full page width. I think this looks a lot better.
[[User:Roper Klacks|Roper Klacks]] ([[User talk:Roper Klacks|talk]]) 14:56, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
== Table for Compute Module 3 Lite is kind of wrong.. ==
"The CM3L brings the SD card interface to the Module pins so a user can wire this up to an eMMC or SD card of their choice." Does the table imply an interface you can plug in? There space is small to get the right idea across.. what should we do? [[User:Comp.arch|comp.arch]] ([[User talk:Comp.arch|talk]]) 11:36, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
== A coin for scale ==
I second a previous comment made in 2012: It would be great to have an image with a coin/credit card for scale. --[[User:Jeran Renz|Jeran Renz]] ([[User talk:Jeran Renz|talk]]) 13:26, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
== Citation for "opensource firmware" ==
Here is a reference to the open source firmware.
https://github.com/christinaa/rpi-open-firmware
Is this a sufficient or appropriate reference? <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/79.77.5.76|79.77.5.76]] ([[User talk:79.77.5.76#top|talk]]) 10:41, 17 July 2017 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
== Conflicting information on Pi 2 ==
I see one place where it says 512MB and another that says 1M. I don't think Pi 2 had 1M, the Pi 3 does. I do have both.
[[User:Bcw142|Bcw142]] ([[User talk:Bcw142|talk]]) 14:37, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
== PR speak - [[WP:NPOV]] ==
Encyclopedic articles should not parrot the company's or organization's talking points and PR slogans. Intentions, motives, and the developers' overall desire to make the world a better place (sorry for the sarcasm) are not encyclopedic facts. Product achievements and successes should not be praised empathically, but described in a ''neutral'' and ''uninvolved'' tone. Of course editors are excited about such new technologies and developments, but these positive opinions should ''not'' be reflected in the article's main text (except from a properly sourced and attributed "Reception" section). I'll try to tone down some of the problematic phrases, but more care should be taken to meet the requirements of [[WP:NPOV]]. [[User:GermanJoe|GermanJoe]] ([[User talk:GermanJoe|talk]]) 19:40, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
== Commercial use ==
[[User:Proogs|Proogs]] ([[User talk:Proogs|talk]]) 11:18, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
Hi; I don't edit wikipedia much other than minor edits, so I hope this is right place to ask this.
I added some info about a commercial use for a Pi - the Robe MiniMe - that's been reverted. I'd linked to the product's own webpage as proof of its inclusion in the product but I think you need a more independent source. Would an article in the industry press be sufficient? I've found PLSN's road test of the product - would this be a better reference?
[http://plsn.com/articles/road-tests/robe-minime/ PLSN's article] It actively talks about the use of the Raspberry Pi as a media server within the unit.
If it's OK, perhaps someone can revert the text back again with this as the reference, please?
Thanks.
:The information needs a source to confirm it is notable. An industry source may be suitable, better than first party source. Also, the content shouldn't be seen as advertising a product - something Wikipedians are particularly vigilant about. More information at [[Wikipedia:Citing sources]]. Feel free to add content back if you have suitable sources. [[User:Jonpatterns|Jonpatterns]] ([[User talk:Jonpatterns|talk]]) 12:05, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
[[User:Proogs|Proogs]] ([[User talk:Proogs|talk]]) 01:38, 9 February 2018 (UTC)
Thanks - it's rather difficult to talk about commercial use of something and to name the product without someone taking it as an advert. Is there an accepted way of phrasing something such that it mentions a commercial product without it being misinterpreted? Perhaps I should just be nonspecific when mentioning it - but then it becomes a useless addition to the 'commercial' section!
== Raspberry Pi Zero WH is missing ==
See https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/zero-wh/ --[[Special:Contributions/91.221.59.24|91.221.59.24]] ([[User talk:91.221.59.24|talk]]) 11:58, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
:Pi Zero WH is not missing - it is exact Pi Zero W, the only difference is the goldpin factory-made soldered --[[User:Jasc PL|Jasc PL]] ([[User talk:Jasc PL|talk]]) 13:20, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
== Images of Raspberry Pi 3 B+ already in Commons ==
Good news - 19 a good quality photos under CC license was uploaded to [[c:Category:Raspberry_Pi_3_Model_B%2B]]. --[[User:Jasc PL|Jasc PL]] ([[User talk:Jasc PL|talk]]) 02:09, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
== infobox name ==
I noticed that the infobox name is '''"Raspberry Pi 3 Model B+ (latest version)"''' - this is incorrect, as the article is '''"Raspberry Pi"''' and the infobox title should reflect this. I went into the article to change it, and see the following:
<nowiki>|name = Raspberry Pi 3 Model B+ (latest version) <!-- Please don't rename --></nowiki>
What rationale is there for there to be an insistence on "Please don't rename"? Having the title as "Raspberry Pi 3 Model B+ (latest version)" is a bad thing - the B+ doesn't even have a section within the article, yet we announce it at the top.
The model history is covered in the Overview section - it's not the job of the infobox to list the latest model available. [[User:Chaheel Riens|Chaheel Riens]] ([[User talk:Chaheel Riens|talk]]) 13:38, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
: Agreed. The image caption should be model specific, the infobox title shouldn't. [[User:Andy Dingley|Andy Dingley]] ([[User talk:Andy Dingley|talk]]) 14:04, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
::Thanks for the second opinion. I've been bold and changed it. [[User:Chaheel Riens|Chaheel Riens]] ([[User talk:Chaheel Riens|talk]]) 16:59, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
== Raspberry pi zero ==
Date in paragraph is 2019. A future date in the context does not seem correct. I do not know the correct date. [[User:Simonthecarpenter|Simonthecarpenter]] ([[User talk:Simonthecarpenter|talk]]) 22:46, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
:{{ping|Simonthecarpenter}} I have reverted a recent unconstructive edit to fix the problem, thank you for pointing this out. [[User:GermanJoe|GermanJoe]] ([[User talk:GermanJoe|talk]]) 23:18, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
== Second paragraph cleanup ==
Does the article actually benefit from having ''that'' many figures of n-boards-sold-by-month-M? I can understand an important milestone or two in addition to one recent figure, but 5 in total seems a bit much. [[User:BZRatfink|BZRatfink]] ([[User talk:BZRatfink|talk]]) 02:10, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
:Agree, both the amount of detail and its placement as a prominent lead paragraph are undue weight. Several of these numbers are also only based on the organization's information from press releases and interviews, and do not represent significant lead-worthy milestones (which should be established by in-depth coverage in truely independent non-PR publications). [[User:GermanJoe|GermanJoe]] ([[User talk:GermanJoe|talk]]) 02:47, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
== REQ: punc fix, cap fix ==
Could an established editor please fix the punctuation and capitalization errors (especially in the introductory section)?<!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/108.68.84.198|108.68.84.198]] ([[User talk:108.68.84.198#top|talk]]) 16:27, 5 July 2013 (UTC)</small>
== Raspberry Pi Model A+ ==
* http://www.raspberrypi.org/raspberry-pi-model-a-plus-on-sale/
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