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==NY metro area (Rickk)==
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Brion and I have been discussing the possible cause for regular, brief loss of service events. I have a theory that big watchlists may be the cause. Yours is the biggest by a factor of 2.5. -- [[User:Tim Starling|Tim Starling]] 03:22, Oct 17, 2003 (UTC)
 
:I prefer using Enhanced Recent Changes rather than My Watchlist, even though I am usually only interested in watched articles, because it shows all their edits in the specified period, not just the last one. I use that with "from=<&lt;time>".
 
:When the specified time is too long ago the system after a rather long waiting period returns an empty page (could you tell me more about the limits?). The limit seems to be somewhere between 3 and 12 hours.
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:Hi Axel, I think he was searched for the purpose of investigation of the kidnappings, but on the pretext of being related to the theft, and that he was imprisoned for the theft. --[[User:Patrick|Patrick]] 11:42, 8 Mar 2004 (UTC)
 
== MisleadPiped link vs. redirect ==
 
I described your link [[mislead]] (and implicitly, your creation of that redirect) pretty strongly in my edit summary:
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Very nice. Thanks. [[User:Bkonrad|Bkonrad]] | [[User talk:Bkonrad|Talk]] 11:58, 31 Mar 2004 (UTC)
 
==[[wikiprojectWikipedia:WikiProject Trains|Wikiproject trains]]==
 
Hi. Could you write an article similar to [[rail transport in Great Britain]] entitled [[rail transport in the Netherlands]] please? Briefly describing the current geography and who operates it. Cheers [[User:Duncharris|Duncharris]] 00:45, Apr 10, 2004 (UTC). P.S. And redirect back to [[rail transport by country]].
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[[User:Patrick|Patrick]] 10:06, 2004 Aug 28 (UTC)
 
: I am struggling to find a way to easily represent family trees for my own mediawiki installation. I create them in Visio, export the tree as an image, then use [http://www.boutell.com/mapedit Mapedit] to build an imagemap. Since mediwiki won't support &lt;area&gt; tags, I can't use the imagemap. The timeline feature doesn't really solve my problem. Numbered solutions like Patrick's don't really work well for family trees. Anyone have a solution?
: [[User:Adam Dray|Adam Dray]] 21:53, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 
==The business and economics forum==
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*Please look also at the '''discrepancy''' between '''Preview''' and '''what you get.'''
*It relates to namespace issues / behaviour and I saw it also when I placed the colon at <nowiki>[[:Help:Talk page]]</nowiki> in [[meta:Help:Namespace]]. Remember: [[User talk:Patrick#Colon in link]].
*<strikes>Somthing like this was also reposted as [[bugzilla:583]].</strikes>
*For your documentation work you have my personal credits. Regards [[User:Gangleri|Gangleri]] 02:38, 2004 Oct 27 (UTC)
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*Do you have an idea? Thanks in advance! Regards [[User:Gangleri|Gangleri]] 03:53, 2004 Nov 8 (UTC)
 
:You can use <nowiki><font id=".." ></font></nowiki>:
 
#[[:Flokkur:Efnisflokkar eftir löndum|Efnisflokkar eftir löndum]] (0) (einnig í [[:Flokkur:Lönd|Lönd]])
##[[:Flokkur:Framhaldsskólar eftir löndum|Framhaldsskólar eftir löndum]] (0) (einnig í [[:Flokkur:Framhaldsskólar|Framhaldsskólar]])
###<fontspan id="test" ></span>[[:Flokkur:Danskir framhaldsskólar|Danskir framhaldsskólar]] (1)
###[[:Flokkur:Íslenskir framhaldsskólar|Íslenskir framhaldsskólar]] (6) (einnig í [[:Flokkur:Íslenskar menntastofnanir|Íslenskar menntastofnanir]])
 
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*<nowiki>########<font id="Island"></font>[[:Flokkur:Ísland|Ísland]] (9) (einnig í [[:Flokkur:Landafræði|Landafræði]], [[:Flokkur:Norðurlönd|Norðurlönd]]) *** anchor ***</nowiki>
*Please note that the "#" characters are still at the beginning of the new lines.
*You recommendet <nowiki><font id=".." ></font></nowiki> with the "'''/'''" character. It is long that I read some HTML documentation. What version of HTML Wikimedia software is complaying and where I can find an updated and usefull docummentation of that HTML version? Regards [[User:Gangleri|Gangleri]] 09:06, 2004 Nov 8 (UTC)
 
::In XHTML the minimized tag syntax for an empty [[HTML element]] (abbreviated form of the combination of opening and closing tag) is e.g. <nowiki><br /></nowiki>.--[[User:Patrick|Patrick]] 09:16, Nov 8, 2004 (UTC)
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:::Please notify me know when "''a template can be used more then four times''" in a article, another template and so on. Regards [[User:Gangleri|Gangleri]] 03:28, 2004 Nov 9 (UTC)
::::OK. I added [[m:Help:Template#Example]] along the lines of your template construction.--[[User:Patrick|Patrick]] 11:09, Nov 9, 2004 (UTC)
 
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*Thanks Patrick! I read [[m:Help:Template#Example]]. I added some comments to [[bugzilla:95|bug 95]]. Regards [[User:Gangleri|Gangleri]] 19:59, 2004 Nov 9 (UTC)
 
== Moser polygon notation ==
 
There is a question at the talk page that I asked 2 months ago but that hasn't been answered. Can you clarify the meaning of the word?? [[User:66.32.248.67|66.32.248.67]] 23:22, 10 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 
== I (Gangleri) want to let you know about: ==
 
*[[Wikipedia:Invalid article names]], [[Wikipedia:Multiple Redirects]]
*[[Wikipedia talk:Categorization#Poll_about_Category:Whatever.7C.2A_.2C_.7C.28space.29.2C_.7C.21|Wikipedia talk:Categorization#Poll about Category:Whatever|* , |(space), |!]] How to start a poll? It would have an orientative influence for other Wikipedias as well. Regards [[User:Gangleri|[[{{ns:User}}:Gangleri|Gangleri]] | [[{{ns:User_talk}}:Gangleri|T]] | [{{SERVER}}{{localurl:User talk:Gangleri|action=history}} Th]]] 02:32, 2004 Nov 11 (UTC)
*[[:fr:Discuter:Antoine de Saint-Exupery#todos]] [[User:Gangleri|[[{{ns:User}}:Gangleri|Gangleri]] | [[{{ns:User_talk}}:Gangleri|T]] | [{{SERVER}}{{localurl:User talk:Gangleri|action=history}} Th]]] 03:23, 2004 Nov 11 (UTC)
*... last sections on [[meta:Talk:Interwiki map]]. Regards [[User:Gangleri|Gangleri]] | [{{SERVER}}{{localurl:User talk:Gangleri|action=history}} Th] | [[{{ns:User_talk}}:Gangleri|T]] 00:31, 2004 Nov 15 (UTC)
*[[User talk:IMSoP#appendix 3]] about <nowiki>{{ns:0}}</nowiki> == {{ns:0}} [[User:Gangleri|Gangleri]] | [{{SERVER}}{{localurl:User talk:Gangleri|action=history}} Th] | [[{{ns:User_talk}}:Gangleri|T]] 01:56, 2004 Nov 16 (UTC)
*issues about a "''[[Pathology|pathological]]''" anchor addressed at subsection '''bugzilla''' following [[User talk:IMSoP#other open issues / bugs]] [[User:Gangleri|Gangleri]] | [{{SERVER}}{{localurl:User talk:Gangleri|action=history}} Th] | [[{{ns:User_talk}}:Gangleri|T]] 04:27, 2004 Nov 16 (UTC)
::Thanks, I added that to [[m:Help:Section#Section_linking]].--[[User:Patrick|Patrick]] 08:48, Nov 16, 2004 (UTC)
:::I will need some time to read it carefully. I did not know <nowiki>__NOEDITSECTION__</nowiki>. Do you know where I can find a (complete) list? 17:10, 2004 Nov 16 (UTC)
::::If you mean these codes with underscores, I know only the four on that page.--[[User:Patrick|Patrick]] 21:53, Nov 16, 2004 (UTC)
::I posted [[bugzilla:917]]. 06:26, 2004 Nov 20 (UTC)
*No reason Patrick. Can you please address the issue from [[User:Gangleri/tests/Parser tests]] and [[Wikipedia:Multiple Redirects#Multiple Redirects across projects]] to "''bot-people''"? Thanks! 11:37, 2004 Nov 16 (UTC)
::You can put it on [[Wikipedia:Bot requests]].--[[User:Patrick|Patrick]] 12:01, Nov 16, 2004 (UTC)
:::Thanks! I posted [[Wikipedia:Bot requests#Multiple redirects across projects]]. Regards [[User:Gangleri|Gangleri]] | [{{SERVER}}{{localurl:User talk:Gangleri|action=history}} Th] | [[{{ns:User_talk}}:Gangleri|T]] 17:10, 2004 Nov 16 (UTC)
*I was visiting a "''[[viking]]''" friend yesterday and I was puzzeled about support for the [[Runic alphabet]] in Wikipedia. See some tests at [[User:Gangleri/tests/Unicode ISO 8859-1/Runes]]. I did not have a chance to read much documentation but I think you could use some results / ways how to document and so on. Regards [[User:Gangleri|Gangleri]] | [{{SERVER}}{{localurl:User talk:Gangleri|action=history}} Th] | [[{{ns:User_talk}}:Gangleri|T]] 12:42, 2004 Nov 18 (UTC)
**I added new information there. See [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Talk:Runic_alphabet&action=history history Talk:Runic_alphabet]. [[User:Gangleri|Gangleri]] | [{{SERVER}}{{localurl:User talk:Gangleri|action=history}} Th] | [[{{ns:User_talk}}:Gangleri|T]] 05:50, 2004 Nov 19 (UTC)
*[[Wikipedia talk:List of lists#Templates]], [[Wikipedia talk:Template messages#Wikipedia:List of templates]]. I always have problems to find the templates you can see now at [[Special:Whatlinkshere/Wikipedia:List of templates]]. [[User:Gangleri|Gangleri]] | [{{SERVER}}{{localurl:User talk:Gangleri|action=history}} Th] | [[{{ns:User_talk}}:Gangleri|T]] 06:26, 2004 Nov 20 (UTC)
 
== Nuclear explosion ==
 
I noticed you have removed my comment about multiple nuclear explosions possibly igniting the atmosphere of the earth. That is a possible scenario and here are some sites that back it up, although I was partially wrong in saying that the hydrogen would ignite, it would be the nitrogen.
 
 
http://www.dailyherald.com/special/crossingcenturies/4a/9rest.asp
 
Here is a book also
 
Peter Wyden, Day One: Before Hiroshima and After (New York: Simon and Schuster, 1984).
 
I humbly ask if you would re-enter my comment or if I may be allowed to re-enter it myself. Thank you
 
:I have added [[Nuclear_explosion#Early_concern_about_possible_ignition_of_the_atmosphere_with_a_nuclear_explosion]].--[[User:Patrick|Patrick]] 09:22, Nov 15, 2004 (UTC)
 
 
Thanks!
 
== Article licensing ==
 
 
I've "started" the [[User:rambot|Free the Rambot Articles Project]] which aims to get users to release all of their contributions to the U.S. state, county, and city articles under the CC-by-sa 1.0 and 2.0 license (at minimum) or into the public ___domain if they prefer. A secondary goal is to get those users to release ALL of their edits for ALL articles. I've personally chosen to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all of the [[User:rambot|rambot]] and [[User:Ram-Man|Ram-Man]] contributions under the [[Creative Commons]] Attribution-Share Alike [[Creative Commons License|License]] so that other projects, such as [[WikiTravel]], can use our articles. I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all your contributions (or at ''minimum'' those on the geographic articles) so that we can keep most of the articles available under the multi-license. Many users use the '''<nowiki>{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}</nowiki>''' template (or even '''<nowiki>{{MultiLicensePD}}</nowiki>''' for [[public ___domain]]) on their user page, but there are other templates for other options at [[Wikipedia:Template messages/User namespace#Licensing Templates|Template messages/User namespace]]. If you only prefer using the [[GFDL]], I understand, but I thought I'd at least ask, just in case, since the number of your edits is in the top 20 most. If you do want to do it, simply just copy and paste one of the above two templates into your user page and it will allow us to track those users who have done it. For example:
 
:'''Option 1'''
:<nowiki>I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:</nowiki>
:<nowiki>{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}</nowiki>
'''OR'''
:'''Option 2'''
:<nowiki>I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions to any [[U.S. state]], county, or city article as described below:</nowiki>
:<nowiki>{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}</nowiki>
 
Or if you wanted to place your work into the public ___domain (which many people do or don't like to do, see [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing]]), you could replace '''<nowiki>{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}</nowiki>''' with '''<nowiki>{{MultiLicensePD}}</nowiki>''' -- [[User:Ram-Man|Ram-Man]] 15:01, Nov 24, 2004 (UTC)
 
:With a GFDL license only, if I work on GFDL sites and someone else makes a derivative work elsewhere, then I can take the parts I like and add them to the GFDL sites. I like that. For now I consider dual licensing on a case-by-case basis only.--[[User:Patrick|Patrick]] 23:14, Nov 27, 2004 (UTC)
 
::Alright. BTW, I noticed you were thinking about the minor edit public ___domain. If you copy someone else's changes from another GFDL article, then that article is not under YOUR copyright, so you are not authorized to put it under any other license even if you mark it as minor. That's the reason the text says "eligible contributions". Only those contributions for which you own the copyright can be licensed in any way that you choose. If you do copy, you should make sure you make that clear in the summary, in order to avoid copyright issues for others. So maybe that will clarify the issue for it. There is no risk as long as it is not YOUR edits that you are copying. -- [[User:Ram-Man|Ram-Man]] 02:18, Nov 28, 2004 (UTC)
 
:::Yes, I understand. But it becomes a heavier responsibility to fill in the edit summary, even for just a quick test, etc.--[[User:Patrick|Patrick]] 03:15, Nov 28, 2004 (UTC)
 
== Thanks for Cleaning Up My Electron Entry ==
 
Thanks for cleaning up my [[Electron|editting]], particularly my erroneous equation between gamma and energy. -- [[User:RichBlinne|RichBlinne]] 14:58, 2 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 
== User:Patrick/w ==
 
Patrick, I've removed the current content of your /w page since it kept appearing in categories to which it doesn't belong. There may be a way you can reinstate - but please don't include the categorisations - since these are causing problems. Thanks, [[User:Icairns|Ian Cairns]] 14:56, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 
:Sorry, I forgot this side-effect. I have fixed it now.--[[User:Patrick|Patrick]] 02:38, Dec 4, 2004 (UTC)
 
== Common year calendars ==
 
Hi Patrick,
 
I'm starting to update the current common year calendars to tables, and eventually to build month/year templates. I'd appreciate it if you could take a look at [[User:Amgine/Sandbox]].
 
- [[User:Amgine|Amgine]] 07:15, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 
:I like the change, except that "Examples" should be something like "Other years".
:Separate matters are that I would prefer weeks starting with Monday, and that week numbers would be nice.
:Regards, --[[User:Patrick|Patrick]] 07:58, Dec 10, 2004 (UTC)
 
==Please don't make links so complicated==
 
Hello. There is no need to write <nowiki>[[orbit|orbits]]</nowiki> or <nowiki>[[planet|planets]]</nowiki> as you did in [[ellipse]]. You can write instead <nowiki>[[orbit]]s</nowiki>, and the ''whole'' word, including the final ''s'', appears as a clickable link. Similarly <nowiki>[[logic]]al, [[hyphen]]ated, [[Australia]]n</nowiki>, etc. [[User:Michael Hardy|Michael Hardy]] 22:58, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 
:Thanks, I know. That was somebody else's text I restored.--[[User:Patrick|Patrick]] 23:07, Dec 11, 2004 (UTC)
 
== Your recent edit at [[Tu-144]]: mass vs. weight ==
 
Although your edit is very sensible on the grounds of physics, the aviation term is "empty weight" and not "empty mass". [[User:BACbKA|BACbKA]] 21:26, 23 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 
:I see.--[[User:Patrick|Patrick]] 21:34, Dec 23, 2004 (UTC)
 
== [[:Image:Train Mat 64.jpg]] ==
 
An <nowiki>{{unverified}}</nowiki> tag has been added to your contributed image (above). Please replace with the appropriate [[Wikipedia:Image copyright tags|copyright tag]]. Thank you, [[User:Duk|Duk]] 16:26, 26 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 
== [[Moment magnitude scale]] ==
 
Could you add an explanation for what EJ and PJ mean in your added math markup section? I'm not very familiar with geophysics, and am not at all sure what this means, though I understand a power of 32 increase in energy between adjacent M0's. --[[User:Abqwildcat|ABQCat]] 02:31, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 
:J is [[Joule]], and I have linked the [[SI prefix]]es now.--[[User:Patrick|Patrick]] 08:39, Dec 28, 2004 (UTC)
 
::Aha. Those I am familiar with (engineering student here). Still, do you think that instead of Peta- and Exa- Joules, we could list the energies as 10^15 and 10^18 Joules? It's more obvious without needing to visit the wikilinks. Any ideas? --[[User:Abqwildcat|ABQCat]] 08:52, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 
:::Please keep the prefixed notation, but add the powers, if you want.--[[User:Patrick|Patrick]] 09:26, Dec 28, 2004 (UTC)
 
== [[Nevada#Important cities and towns]] ==
 
In [[Nevada#Important cities and towns]], your change results in "pdf" just floating underneath the map. Why do you insist on having a link just float there? It's bad layout and your revert just puts it back. [[User:Cburnett|Cburnett]] 21:33, 7 Jan 2005 (UTC)
 
:I have made a box, so that it is clear that the link and the image belong together. I think a direct link is much more convenient than having to go to the image description page first. There is already a link "Enlarge" to a medium quality version, why not directly link to the best version?
 
:You are welcome to suggest a different lay-out, while keeping the link, preferably close to the thumbnail.
:--[[User:Patrick|Patrick]] 21:56, Jan 7, 2005 (UTC)
 
::Already did. The table color you used didn't show up in my browser, but had it....it still would have been a floating link. I think the current way is a happy compromise. [[User:Cburnett|Cburnett]] 22:06, 7 Jan 2005 (UTC)
 
:::Excellent!--[[User:Patrick|Patrick]] 22:22, Jan 7, 2005 (UTC)
 
== [[Template:Pic]] ==
 
Hi, did you create the <nowiki>{{pic}}</nowiki> template? Is there a template for "there are pictures at:". It would be useful for animal pages where the wikipedia article uses the English name, but the commons article uses latin. [[User:Zeimusu|<nowiki></nowiki>]] &mdash; [[User:Zeimusu|Zeimusu]] | [[User talk:Zeimusu|Talk]] 08:08, 2005 Jan 30 (UTC)
 
:There is also [[Template:Commons]] with the target as parameter. Additionally I made [[Template:Picp]]. See [[Primate]].--[[User:Patrick|Patrick]] 09:20, Jan 30, 2005 (UTC)
 
:: Please stop making templates which incorporate only minor wording changes. It is a form of insidious [[m:instruction creep|instruction creep]] and leads to an inconsistent environment. Stick to [[Template:Commons]] or [[Template:Commonscat]]. -- [[User:Netoholic|Netoholic]] [[User talk:Netoholic|@]] 21:49, 2005 Jan 31 (UTC)
 
There have been discussions as to whether [[Template:Pic]], which you created, should be orphaned and deleted. You might want to state your opinion at [[Template talk:Pic]]. Also, I suppose that the same will be said of [[Template:Picp]] eventually, although I have no intention of dealing with that at the moment. If you're interested in the sister projects templates, by the way, I suggest that you vote at [[WP:TFD#Template:Sisterproject]] as to whether the <nowiki>{{Sisterproject}}</nowiki> template should be kept. -- [[User:Itai|Itai]] 20:53, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)
 
Netoholic has orphaned [[Template:Picp]] prior to listing it on [[WP:TFD]]. This is very naughty, and against regulations. He's done this sort of thing before. He once even used a bot (Netbot) to remove a template of mine he did not like. This is also naughty. I'm not very fond of Netoholic. If you don't care about [[Template:Picp]], or approve of Netoholic's actions, do nothing. (Read no further, as far as I am concerned, and ignore this post entirely.) However, if you disapprove, I'll back you up if you want to do anything about it, from [[WP:DR|dispute resolution]] to registering an [[WP:RFC|RFC]]. (Which requires a two person threshold.) -- &mdash; [[User:Itai|Itai]] ([[User talk:Itai|f&t]]) 21:05, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 
:Netoholic's actions are not always appropriate, I agree. However, Picp may not be needed after all.--[[User:Patrick|Patrick]] 22:08, Feb 1, 2005 (UTC)
 
::Darn it, I thought I had him nailed. Back to plan B. Do you know where I can get half a dozen anacondas? (If that joke was any older, the anacondas would get it. Would you at least consider voting - either way - at [[WP:TFD#Template:Sisterproject]] and [[Template talk:Sisterproject#Survey]]?) &mdash; [[User:Itai|Itai]] ([[User talk:Itai|f&t]]) 22:30, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC)