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== Current voice of Daffy Duck ==

Daffy Duck did not say anything about the great pumpkin, that was probably vandalism.

: Actually, Daffy says the Great Pumpkin line in the ''[[Duck Dodgers]]'' episode "Pet Peeved".

I really think we should just stick with what at least two or three of the most recent productions in order say, since Jeff Bergman (while still playing several other characters) hasn’t reportedly voiced Daffy Duck or Tweety since 2018 with the Ani-Mayhem attraction in Warner Bros World Abu Dhabi before Eric Bauza and Bob Bergen respectively took over. If there really is more he did afterward, please find a reliable source and create a citation link.

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I am wondering if anyone has seen any discussion of the philosophical schools represented by Daffy and Donald Duck. Each a foremost spokesman and each begging for study. You can let me know at [e-mail]. Thank you

:Well, I've seen the scene in the Roger Rabbit movie... ^^

== VoiceCurrent originvoice of Daffy Duck ==

I think we should stick with Two Main current voice actors Jeff Bergman and Eric Bauza who all voiced Daffy Duck for recent productions and projects. Just like i did with Tweety, also bring back the present for Daffy Duck and Tweety Jeff Bergman can still do the voice of Daffy Duck and Tweety For every productions and projects. If Brian doesn't understand the details of these characters or actors Brian will be blocked from Wikipedia. [[Special:Contributions/166.182.84.164|166.182.84.164]] ([[User talk:166.182.84.164|talk]]) 15:39, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

The page on Leon Schlesinger mentions that the producer's voice was Mel Blanc's model for Daffy, but I half-remember a funny story about it. It may have been mentioned in Chuck Amuck. Anyone who can verify this story should definitely (in my opinion) add it to this article.

All you're saying is that Jeff Bergman is still alternating with Eric Bauza and Bob Bergen as the voices of Daffy Duck and Tweety for commercials, theme park attractions, upcoming shows, etc, but you're not clarifying on what specific type of productions Bergman voiced or is set to voice either character in during or after Looney Tunes Cartoons and Space Jam: A New Legacy, as he hasn’t reportedly voiced either character since 2018. You're also not providing any reliable sources to confirm otherwise. So I don't think I’m the one who doesn't understand the details of these characters or actors. [[User:Brian K. Tyler|Brian K. Tyler]] ([[User talk:Brian K. Tyler|talk]]) 16:32, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

The character of Daffy had just been created, and there was some difficulty finding the right voice. The crew was getting a little slap-happy after rejecting many different attempts, and Mel Blanc spontaneously did a mocking imitation of Schlesinger. The animators laughed themselves silly and decided that they had to use the voice. As they neared completion on the cartoon, however, they realized with a shock that at some point, Leon would see the finished product and would doubtless recognize the duck's voice as close to his own. It was too late to change the voice at this point, however.

True, I have found some videos of Looney Tunes related live shows where Jeff Bergman voiced Daffy Duck and Tweety as well as Bugs Bunny and Sylvester, but none of them said when they were made. Only when they were recorded, which is totally different. So how do you know Eric Bauza hasn’t officially taken Bergman's place as the voice is Daffy and Tweety? [[User:Brian K. Tyler|Brian K. Tyler]] ([[User talk:Brian K. Tyler|talk]]) 21:40, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

As the cartoon was first screened for the Warners' staff, they sweated in apprehension of what Leon's reaction would be. The projector fell silent, the lights came up, and there was a tense ten seconds of complete silence. Schlesinger turned to Blanc and said "Jeethuth Chritht, where'd you get that fantathtic voith?"

How exactly do you know Jeff Bergman is still voicing Daffy Duck or Tweety? Do you think Dee Bradley Baker is still voicing Daffy, or that Billy West is still voicing Elmer Fudd, or that Maurice LaMarche is still voicing Yosemite Sam? None of them have reprised the roles after 2-4 recent productions as of 2021. A lot like how Mindy Cohn hasn’t reprised the voice of Velma Dinkley since Kate Miccuci took over. [[User:Brian K. Tyler|Brian K. Tyler]] ([[User talk:Brian K. Tyler|talk]]) 02:37, 31 December 2021 (UTC)

==Nasa Badge?==

What's the deal with the neato NASA badge? [[[[User:PaulinSaudi|Paul, in Saudi]] 02:02, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)]]

I'll remind you again brian Jeff Bergman is still voicing Daffy Duck and Tweety alternating with Eric Bauza and Bob Bergen, it was not before or after Looney Tunes Cartoons and Space Jam a New legacy, also it was not 2018, I'm just saying that Jeff Bergman is Still The Current voice of Daffy Duck and Tweety alternating and sharing the role with Eric Bauza and Bob Bergen, that I think we should stick with two main current voice actors for Daffy Duck and three main Current voice actors for Tweety as well for other projects there doing. I've been putting present back for Daffy Duck and Tweety then you just keep coming and coming, Brian I want you to bring present back for Daffy Duck parts and Tweety parts back. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/166.182.87.46|166.182.87.46]] ([[User talk:166.182.87.46#top|talk]]) 22:59, 31 December 2021 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Daffy Dumas Duck ??? ==

I’m sorry, but just saying the same thing over and over isn’t going to prove you right. And I’ll have to ask again, what other productions after the year 2018 has Bergman voiced or is set to voice Daffy Duck and/or Tweety in? And for that matter, is Dee Bradley Baker still voicing Daffy?

This "Daffy Dumas Duck" business keeps turning up. I did some checking and found that name was used exactly ''once'', in "The Scarlet Pumpernickel" (1950). It's the name Daffy puts on a script he is trying to sell to the studio. The script is a takeoff on the novel "The Scarlet Pimpernel" by Baroness Emmuska Orczy. Alexandre '''Dumas''' (pronounced doo-MAH) was the author of "The Three Musketeers", "The Man in the Iron Mask", "The Count of Monte Cristo" and other tales contemporary with the Scarlet Pimpernel's time frame. This is obviously just a joke (possibly a sly double-meaning joke, given the track record of the "Termite Terrace" guys, who brought us geographical names like "Bear Butte") and I'm guessing that some "ignoranimous", as Bugsy would say [or maybe some "Dumas"] took it literally. As a result, there are several Google references to "Daffy Dumas Duck" that imply that was his real name somehow. Unless someone can cite an ''official WB source'' that affirms this, it would be best to leave it out of the Daffy Duck writeup. [[User:Wahkeenah|Wahkeenah]] 19:26, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

Brian K Tyler can you please bring present back for Tweety and Daffy Duck articles which is Jeff Bergman roles and removed Bob Bergen's role as Tweety. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/166.182.254.16|166.182.254.16]] ([[User talk:166.182.254.16#top|talk]]) 21:56, 20 September 2022 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:I've made "Daffy Dumas Duck" a redirect; if it's a common enough internet phenomenon, it'll probably come up again. The same thing happened with [[Donald Duck]], since in one cartoon, he writes his full name as "Donald Fauntlroy Duck" or something like that. But, again, if it's not the character's common name, there's not really any need to add the information to the article except perhaps as a minor detail. [[User:BrianSmithson|BrianSmithson]] 06:35, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== Richard Thompson quoteFamily ==

In Bugs Bunny Builders, it reveals he has a female cousin named Billy. [[Special:Contributions/75.82.160.163|75.82.160.163]] ([[User talk:75.82.160.163|talk]]) 02:23, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

I moved the following here from the main article:

==Wiki Education assignment: Information Literacy and Scholarly Discourse==

"In a [[1975]] issue of ''[[Film Comment]]'', critic [[Richard Thompson]] analyzed the fundamental appeal of the Jones-era Daffy:

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:"Bugs always knows what's going on and is in control of events; Daffy is bright enough to understand how to be in control, but he never quite makes it.&hellip; Bugs stands back from a situation, analyzes it, and makes his move; Daffy becomes emotionally involved, loses his distance, and blows it. He's stuck with a one-track mind which fixes on only one facet of the problem and loses sight of the larger pattern. Bugs is a strong, more traditional American hero&mdash;Daffy is much more complicated. He's a coward, he claims, but a live coward&mdash;he feels a preemptive necessity to set someone else (Bugs) up for the destruction he knows is stalking him."

== Semi-protected edit request on 14 July 2024 ==

My reasoning is that: a) This is a long quote, longer than most paragraphs in the current article. As such, it borders on copyviio. b) It is unclear why Richard Thompson should be quoted when no one else is. There are any number of critics who could be quoted, many of them much better known.

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However, if we can paraphrase this, it probably belongs somewhere. The Thompson article should also be added to the References section. --[[User:BrianSmithson|BrianSmithson]] 12:33, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

Add Daffy ducks service in the United States Marine Corp and joins the MARSOC Raiders of US Marine special operations component of SOCOM in season 2 ep 5 Semper Lie [[Special:Contributions/219.89.31.22|219.89.31.22]] ([[User talk:219.89.31.22|talk]]) 08:44, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

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== Crazy darnfool duck ==

I reverted the changes to the "origin" section. Unless I'm completely mistaken, both Porky and Daffy use the term "crazy darnfool duck" in Daffy's first short, and the phrase is not "darnfol" — [[User:BrianSmithson|BrianSmithson]] 01:05, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

:Actually, if you rewatch the short, Porky never refers to Daffy as "that crazy darnfool duck"). Porky asks his dog Rin Tin-Tin to retrieve Daffy. When Daffy ends up retrieving the dog, Porky pulls out few sheets of paper and says, "Hey! Th-t-that wasn't in the sc-sc-script!" Daffy then laughs and responds "Don't let it worry ya, skipper because I'm just a crazy, darnfool duck!" and woo-hoo's off into the distance. Also, some sources spell the line as "darnfol", but I think we ought to stick with "darnfool". -- [[User:Pietro Shakarian|Pietro Shakarian]] 12:36, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

::Is that short on any of the ''Golden Collection'' DVDs? I'm still trying to catch up on all the stuff I missed while I was overseas. I'll take your word for the Porky/Daffy mixup, and I agree on "darnfool" as the preferred spelling. Too bad we don't have a script for the short! — [[User:BrianSmithson|BrianSmithson]] 12:48, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

:::While not yet available on the GC discs, you may want to check out the long out-of-print VHS cassette, ''Daffy Duck: The Nuttiness Continues...'' It can be found on Ebay or new and used at Amazon.com. -- [[User:Pietro Shakarian|Pietro Shakarian]] 18:40, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

== Daffy based on a wild duck ==

I removed this:

:Daffy probably is the best-known cartoon duck based on a wild rather than a domesticated duck. Whereas most cartoon ducks are given white or yellow feathers, Daffy has black feathers with a white ring around his neck, the ring resembling that seen on a [[mallard]].

It seems like [[WP:OR|original research]] to me. If it is to be added to the article, I'd like to see a source provided, and language like "probably" removed completely. If this can be sourced, there should be no need for uncertainties like that. — [[User:BrianSmithson|BrianSmithson]] 13:50, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

I accept that, and appreciate that you moved the text here rather than unceremoniously deleting it, in spite of my carelessness. [[User:Richard K. Carson|Richard K. Carson]] 05:18, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

:It's not a big deal. :) If I had to hazard a guess as to why Daffy is black and Donald is white, it's because Daffy was created during the black-and-white era when a great deal (if not most) cartoon characters were black blobs of ink. Donald, on the other hand, was created as part of one of Disney's lushly colored ''Silly Symphonies'' series. But, again, I don't have a source for this, just my hunch. — [[User:BrianSmithson|BrianSmithson]] 13:58, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

::In the earliest cartoons, Daffy is portrayed as a wild duck, cavorting about in a lake. Since wild ducks are not white, that called for a different coloration. It might also be that Warner wanted to contrast Daffy with Donald, so they made him black as a satirical gesture. I didn't mean to speculate, only to mention that Daffy is a wild duck, which is explicit in the early cartoons. [[User:Richard K. Carson|Richard K. Carson]] 08:44, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

:::That's a good point. I'm sure one of the animators mentioned Daffy's early design in an interview at some point. If you find anything, let us all know. — [[User:BrianSmithson|BrianSmithson]] 14:27, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

== Daffy Duck comics ==

The main article could be improved if a word or two could be said of the Daffy Ducks comic book series, and how it evolved in terms of competition with the Donald Duck comic book series from Disney. As the main article says, it is pretty hard to define the quintessential character of Daffy Duck beyond a portrayal of a creature given to ventilate its innermost emotions at a moment's

notice. The evolution of the character in the comic book series faced a lot of the problems that the Donald Duck series also faced; transforming a character given to buffoonish conflict with social mores into a character with a deeper motive, though oft misplaced, on the one hand given to flights of fancy (as was the case with Daffy) and the other to bouts of witless rage (as was the case with Donald).

Some of the mass appeal in these two series (whether in book form or in animation) lies in the concept of one character's comeuppance, either through cleverness (detecting someone's weakness) or through fate, and another character's demise, almost always deserved and long anticipated.

To improve the main article, how many Daffy Ducks comics have

been published? Which publishers over the years have the rights to Daffy Duck's character?

== Removed bit ==

I removed:

:Daffy is notorious for being part of one of the biggest [[game show]] blunders ever: On an episode of ''[[Press Your Luck]]'', host [[Peter Tomarken]] told his contestants that Daffy's catchphrase was "Suffering Succotash!", even though the players had correctly identified [[Sylvester (Looney Tunes)|Sylvester]] as the character who actually says it. While the credits started rolling, Mel Blanc called Tomarken, disguising his voice as Sylvester's, and accused Daffy of stealing from him all the time. All three players were invited back to participate in later episodes.

This is hardly relevant to an encyclopedic look at Daffy Duck. If anywhere, it belongs on the article for ''[[Press Your Luck]]'', but even there it's trivial. — [[User:BrianSmithson|BrianSmithson]] 18:41, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

== Plucky Duck ==

Um, Daffy Duck is not supposed to be the father of Plucky Duck. And listing 'known relatives' anyway is silly. Daffy is a cartoon character, and there is no internal canon of WB cartoons that says that a relative of his in one short is a relative in another. — [[User:BrianSmithson|BrianSmithson]] 02:15, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Taz is also a cartoon character yet his family in Taz-mania is listed in his page under known relatives. [[User:DaffyDuck619|DaffyDuck619]]

:In that particular series, yes, but we should be talking about these characters from the point of view of the real world, not some internal WB universe. Please see [[Wikipedia:Manual of Style (writing about fiction)]] for guidelines on what I mean. At any rate, there are specific ''Tiny Toons'' episodes that feature a baby Plucky Duck and his father. His father is not Daffy. — [[User:BrianSmithson|BrianSmithson]] 03:24, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

However those cartoons never implied anything in "real life", there was this episode where Plucky tried to get the role of Batman in Batman Returns. Hampton was there to help him and they were walking pass a poster of Daffy Duck. Hampton looked at it and suggested to Plucky that they ask his "dad" to use his name to get the role for him but Plucky didn't.

:Which only underscores my point that these characters have no real "family" -- their costars, "family members", "friends", and "enemies" all change to suit the needs of the story. -- [[User:BrianSmithson|BrianSmithson]] 12:02, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

::An anon recently re-added Plucky's name as a "known relative". In case there is any remaining doubt, even if we are discussing these characters from the perspective of the ''Tiny Toons'' fiction (rather than discussing them as fictional characters as per Wikipedia guideline), [[:Image:Baby Plucky.jpg|this]] is Plucky's father. -- [[User:BrianSmithson|BrianSmithson]] 13:59, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

however it implies it in the TV show that's his father, not in "real life" (you know the place where the characters in Tiny Toon Adventures, Freakazoid, Animaniacs, Pinky and The Brain are offered and sign contracts), which is implied in (from what I counted) SEVERAL episodes, and from what I remember in an interview, Steven Spielberg (Plucky's creator) insisted they put those bits in as he likes to think of Daffy as Plucky's "real life" father.

:Daffy Duck is NOT a real person. Plucky Duck is NOT a real person. They are fictional characters. They have NO fathers or mothers or sisters or brothers. But even in the fictional universe of ''Tiny Toons'', I have already proved that Plucky's father is some green, unnamed duck. See the image I linked to for proof. If you want to dispute this further, I suggest we pursue [[Wikipedia:Dispute resolution]], because I am not going to waver on this. -- [[User:BrianSmithson|BrianSmithson]] 02:50, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

::Should I find this as funny as I do? I empathize with BrianSmithson so hard it makes me sweaty. You actually had to prove "in-universe" that Daffy is not his father rather than your out-of-universe "there is no internal logic" argument. So beautiful and true. --[[User:ChrisGriswold|Chris Griswold]] 08:35, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

:::I doubt the anon even buys the in-universe argument. I've seen other attempts on Wikipedia to create some sort of overarching WB cartoon "canon", and I will resist it at every turn. :) -- [[User:BrianSmithson|BrianSmithson]] 14:14, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

::::Stay strong, brother. --[[User:ChrisGriswold|Chris Griswold]] 01:48, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

You're ignoring this "real life" fact we keep trying to tell you about. We know (or at least I know) Daffy Duck is NOT a real person, Plucky Duck is NOT a real person, they have NO fathers, mothers, sisters, brothers. So because Plucky Duck is NOT a real person, Plucky (just like every single other cartoon character that says he/she/it does) can't be signed to a contract. However when he implies he can, he implies it that he has signed this contract in the "real life" we keep trying to tell you about. And it is in this "real worlld" where Daffy Duck is Plucky Duck's "REAL LIFE" Father, while the one in the baby Plucky cartoon is just an "actor" (hired in the "real world" where this cartoon character "signed a contract") "playing" his father. [[User: DaffyDuck619|DaffyDuck619]]

:I have no idea what you're talking about. Daffy and Plucky do not exist in real life; they are only real in the fictional reality of their cartoons. They have signed no contract, and per US trademark and copyright laws, they are the [[intellectual property]] of Warner Bros. -- [[User:BrianSmithson|BrianSmithson]] 13:39, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

::(The media company, not Yakko and Wakko). --[[User:ChrisGriswold|Chris Griswold]] 21:06, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

I've reverted the nonsense about Plucky Duck being Daffy's son twice more. DaffyDuck619, if you continue to insert this into the article, I must insist that you provide some fairly convincing evidence that Daffy is Plucky's father. And I will add this page to [[Wikipedia:Lamest edit wars]]. Just step back and ''think'' to yourself: Why does it ''matter'' who Plucky Duck's father is? Read [[Wikipedia:Manual of Style (writing about fiction)]], and you will see that it is ''not'' Wikipedia's business to try to document the so-called "lives" of fictional characters. But this is ''especially'' true with WB cartoons, ''which have no internal continuity''. — [[User:BrianSmithson|BrianSmithson]] 02:58, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

It isn't a big deal, but then you had to make it one, I agree it's lame but cartoon characters do imply they exist in "real life", voice actors do imply the cartoon characters they voice exist in real life, cartoon producers like Walt Disney, Walt Lantz and Steven Speilberg imply the characters in a cartoon show they produce exist in real life. And this "real life" is what I'm trying to explain to you. [[User: DaffyDuck619|DaffyDuck619]]

:And the fact that there ''is'' no continuity in this "real life" is what I'm trying to explain to you. How else do you explain the fact that Daffy Duck changed so drastically in appearance from his early cartoons to his later ones? Or that his personality changed completely? Is ''Who Framed Roger Rabbit'' to be the litmus test for what a character's personality is like in "real life"? So Daffy is by default the nutty guy in WFRR? And I would counter that creators of cartoon characters do ''not'' imply that they exist in real life, at least not most of the time. Lantz had a made-up story about how he came up with Woody Woodpecker; ditty Disney and Mickey Mouse. Chuck Jones has talked at length about how the characters he created were intended to portray various aspects of his own personality. The creators recognize that these are ''fictional'' characters that are intended to sell a story and a few gags to the audience. There is no continuity, so Plucky's father in one short may or may not be his father in another short. Daffy has a wife and kids in one short, but he doesn't in the next. It's ''ludicrous'' to try to put this sort of "in-universe" information into articles about WB characters. I will continue to revert your assertion about Plucky Duck on these grounds. -- [[User:BrianSmithson|BrianSmithson]] 14:17, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

:: Such "in-universe" information is amply found in many other articles about fictional characters television programs, including those found in [[anime]]. Although it ''is'' ludicrous on a certain level, it is nonetheless encyclopedic and suitable for Wikipedia. Both of your points should be reflected, however: yes, Daffy has a wife and kids one moment and then is a bachelor again in another story, proving that the show, like many other shows such as [[The X-Files]], is not always "in canon" with itself. [[User:Wikipediatrix|wikipediatrix]] 14:58, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

:::I disagree with you, as do many other editors, that this "in-universe" information is of any importance on Wikipedia. But more importantly, DaffyDuck619 has yet to provide any evidence aside from his own personal memory that any episode of ''Tiny Toons'' ever said that Daffy was supposed to be Plucky's father. — [[User:BrianSmithson|BrianSmithson]] 22:24, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

:I removed the infobox reference to Plucky Duck; the source provided was a Usenet FAQ, which doesn't seem particularly [[WP:RS|reliable]]. Secondly, even if it could be admitted as a source, it states:

:<blockquote>With one exception, none of the Tiny Toons are sons and daughters of the original classic characters, nor are they the Looney Toons as little kids. The one exception to this is Gogo, who, according to TTA writer Paul Dini, is the son of the original dodo bird from "Porky In Wackyland".</blockquote>

:— [[User:TKD|TKD]]::[[User talk:TKD|Talk]] 19:53, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

== NPOV ==

A far more important matter to me than Plucky Duck's lineage is the rampant use of unsourced [[WP:OR]]/[[WP:WEASEL]]/[[WP:POV]] opinions and observations throughout this article, such as:

*"difficult to define"

*"When audiences left the theaters, they could not stop talking about..."

*"not a handsome creature"

*"it is in the cartoons of Chuck Jones that this new, self-centered Daffy becomes fully realized"

*"widely heralded as a classic of filmmaking"

*"Some fans consider this the most controversial interpretation of the duck"

*"which some critics saw as a return to the grand, crazy days of old"

While I personally agree with most of these bits of commentary, they are ''only'' commentary and are strictly matters of personal opinion. I'm removing them. [[User:Wikipediatrix|wikipediatrix]] 15:05, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

:I restored much of this language with citations or rephrased it to be neutral. Two of those statements are from Schneider, but unfortunately, my copy of his book's boxed up at the moment, so I can't say exactly what page number. He has a three- or four-page writeup on Daffy, so it's probably somewhere in the 110-115 range. I've re-added those bits with the <nowiki>{{fact}}</nowiki> tag. The page references I did have were regarding ''Duck Amuck'', since I took notes on it before I boxed up the books in preparation for a move. — [[User:BrianSmithson|BrianSmithson]] 22:22, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

:: Well, if you don't have specific references handy, why do you keep reverting the edit?? Putting "citation needed" next to OR/POV/WEASEL text is not good enough. [[User:Wikipediatrix|wikipediatrix]] 22:29, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

:::I would hope that you could [[WP:AGF|assume good faith]] that I'm not making this up, but perhaps not. If you really can't wait until I move and open up my boxes again, I have no problem with commenting out the line or removing it. I'll eventually get access to my books again, and will reinstate the language. And if the <nowiki>{{fact}}</nowiki> template is not good enough for a situation like this, I'm not quite sure why it has yet to be deleted. Finally, regarding Daffy's early appearance, I removed the POV language ("not a handsome creature"). The fact that he had short legs and a stubby beak is not POV. — [[User:BrianSmithson|BrianSmithson]] 22:35, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

:::: Um, I didn't delete it again because '''you've reverted it multiple times now''' and I'm trying not to have an edit war. And this has nothing to do with [[WP:AGF|assume good faith]]. It isn't about you. It's about the article. [[User:Wikipediatrix|wikipediatrix]] 23:38, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

::::Box opened and in need of repacking, but cites have been added. — [[User:BrianSmithson|BrianSmithson]] 23:02, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

::::: Much, much, much better! Now that wasn't so hard, was it? :) [[User:Wikipediatrix|wikipediatrix]] 23:40, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

== Anyone for tennis? a catchprase ==

Anyone for tennis? is a common chatchprase used by Daffy Duck

[[User:Mrsanitazier|Mrsanitazier]] 22:57 6, September 2006

:Says who? -- [[User:BrianSmithson|BrianSmithson]] 08:27, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

::A quick Google survey indicates he said it at least three times: ''[[The Ducksters]]'' (1950); ''[[Rabbit Fire]]'' (1951); and ''[[Drip Along Daffy]]'' (1951). I'm not prepared to argue that it qualifies as a "common" catchphrase. For one thing, it's a common cliche that was once ascribed to [[Humphrey Bogart]] (a frequent actor for Warner Brothers), and you know how imitative these Warner cartoon writers were. [[User:Wahkeenah|Wahkeenah]] 08:57, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

::I also found Google references that suggest it was used by [[Tweety Bird]] and (implied) [[Wile E. Coyote]]. So I'm inclined to think that the writers simply grabbed this standard cliche and applied it wherever it seemed useful. [[User:Wahkeenah|Wahkeenah]] 09:29, 7 September 2006 (UTC)