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==Untitled==
Wouldn't it be a good idea to add details about his family life? <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Liquinn|Liquinn]] ([[User talk:Liquinn|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Liquinn|contribs]]) 21:52, 7 October 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
 
==Super Columbine Massacre==
I don't know how to edit on Wikipedia, but I wanted to bring something to someone's attention. The article notes that there have been conflicting claims regarding whether or not Kimveer Gill listed Super Columbine Massacre as one of his favorite games. The current article states that he did not, and then lists all the games he did mention. The problem is that all three sources that are cited for these claims (footnotes 18, 19, and 20) are dead links. In addition, scanned pages that were printed from Gill's website two days after the attack show that Gill did include Super Columbine Massacre among his favorite games. These pages are posted on the website www.schoolshooters.info on the original documents page under the title "Kimveer Gill Online." These pages may also be of interest because I noticed that other comments on this page raised the question of the veracity of his last comments and the issue of no longer having access to his vampirefreaks profile and pages. [[User:DrKate38|DrKate38]] ([[User talk:DrKate38|talk]]) 22:13, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
 
==Religion==
Why call him a sikh everywhere. From the looks of all his pics/interests/etc, he clearly didn't care about his religion. Call him Punjabi instead. Calling him a sikh implys his religion matters, and it doesn't, it just gives Sikhs a bad name.
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'''''Religion''''' has a concern for human beings but not for those who have wild thoughts.
 
I've removed the reference to anyone's religion. I could not find a single news article or citable source stating his religion. All that I found pointed back to this wiki article. [[User:TheDarknessVisible|TheDarknessVisible]] 07:47, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
 
==Profile Section==
Those personality tests describing K. Gill as "Suicidially Depressed" are novelty internet personality tests with no real substance. They are not authorized by any body or institution and should be disregarded.
*:statements have been added that point out their unreliability. however, as part of a public body of evidence that investigators themselves are examining, they have their place here.
 
== Student menacing ==
I'm looking for an article talking about a student who went to school with guns, not the one who killed his director but the one in wich he pointed his gun to two other students and then in his director but he then abandonned and killed no one. Roger_Smith
 
==Profile==
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:Does anybody know how the name "Kimveer Gill" is pronounced? Indian names are not quite familiar enough to me. --[[User:Revth|Revth]] 06:32, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
Exactly as you would in English. Kim as in Kim, veer as in the word veer "She veered away from..." and Gill as in fish's gills (minus the s)
 
Are you sure he is indian born? I heard he was Canadian, but of indian descent.
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[[User:Steve Lowther|Steve Lowther]] 04:45, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
 
I just found a news article that says his funeral took place in a [[Gurdwara]], which would seem to make the tenuous connection I was looking for:
 
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20060920.FUNERALSGILL20/TPStory/National
 
[[User:Steve Lowther|Steve Lowther]] 01:30, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
 
{{cquote|Does anybody know how the name "Kimveer Gill" is pronounced? Indian names are not quite familiar enough to me. --Revth 06:32, 15 September 2006 (UTC)}}
Actually, it is not pronounced Kim•Veer, more like Kim•Ver, as in VIRtual. [[User:Androo123|Androo123]] ([[User talk:Androo123|talk]]) 18:06, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
 
==Cached Profile Gone?==
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Wikipedia is an '''encyclopedia'''. Inclusion is not determined by whether someone ''deserves'' a "profile" for the ''morality'' of their actions; it's determined solely by whether they have '''done something notable''', ''regardless'' of whether that thing was good or bad on moral grounds. This is not a "profile"; it's an ''article''. Not the same thing at all. [[User:Bearcat|Bearcat]] 23:48, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
 
That's a totally reasonable explanation. But look at his photo gallery! He's such a ''loser''! I'm gonna go to Montreal and pee on his grave. What a poser.
 
== Should this, from < http://vampirefreaks.com > , be included??: ==
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== Category:Spree killers ==
 
I added this article to the [[:Category:Spree killers]] yesterday. I see that it has now been removed. I frankly see no good reason why this was done. Gill started a shooting spree with deadly consequences. Even if only one person got killed in the hail of bullets, it's still a spree killing. [[User:Aecis|Aecis]] [[Special:Contributions/Aecis|<sup>Apple</sup>]][[User_talk:Aecis|<fontspan colorstyle="color:black;"><sup>knocker </sup></fontspan>]][[User:Aecis/Userboxes|<sup>Flophouse</sup>]] 09:58, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
:i agree. his [[modus operandi]] and intent was that of a spree killer, and there but for the grace of quick police intervention that limited his time in the building (approx 7 minutes), and gill's arrival a few minutes '''before''' a class changeover break, casualties could have been off the charts. people need to lift their noses beyond the body count. i'm reinstating the category. -- [[User:Denstat|Denstat]] 18:14, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
 
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==Quotation==
Somebody just removed the word "motherfuckers" from the end of one of his quotations. Can anybody confirm whether it was there or not? I don't have an account on Vampire Freaks (and don't want one). Remember, WP is not censored! --[[User:Storkk|Storkk]] 11:51, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
:Googling for "But he finds the vast majority to be worthless, no good, kniving, betraying, lieing, deceptive, motherfuckers" yields only one hit: [http://vampirefreaks.com/u/fatality666 Fatality666] [http://www.google.nl/search?hl=nl&q=%22But+he+finds+the+vast+majority+to+be+worthless%2C+no+good%2C+kniving%2C+betraying%2C+lieing%2C+deceptive%2C+motherfuckers.%22&meta=]. [[User:Aecis|Aecis]] [[Special:Contributions/Aecis|<sup>Apple</sup>]][[User_talk:Aecis|<fontspan colorstyle="color:black;"><sup>knocker </sup></fontspan>]][[User:Aecis/Userboxes|<sup>Flophouse</sup>]] 15:27, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
 
== Veracity of last online statements ==
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Can anyone verify the accuracy of Kimveer's last online logs? I tried myself, but the google's cached version of his website dated back in May 2006. Curiously, yesterday I was able to see his cached profile that was dated in September 10, but that was gone when I tried to look. Well, I hope nothing is lost for authorities and for the public in the future.--[[User:Janarius|Janarius]] 14:07, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
 
:I could not verify them, I put <nowiki>{{fact}}</nowiki> tags to prompt someone to find sources.[[User:TheDarknessVisible|TheDarknessVisible]] 05:02, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
 
== Cached Profile ==
Is gone, make an account and view profile here: http://web2.vampirefreaks.com/u/fatality666 [[User:211.28.37.241|211.28.37.241]] 14:45, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
:it says "That User Does Not Exist" now [[User:TheDarknessVisible|TheDarknessVisible]] 05:04, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
 
==Faith and descent==
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:::::thx [[User:VirafPatel|VirafPatel]], i did not know that sihkism encompassed so many particularities. there's no verified source that says how important any religion was to him. also, how can the degree of his 'involvement' with the goth subculture be determined at this time? his vampirefreaks.com profile of novelty psych self-tests and claims about himself, are what he put online, and can't be accepted as the whole truth. self-aggrandization is what blogs are for! i think caution is needed until the authorities have examined the evidence (incl. his computer) and concluded the investigation. -- [[User:Denstat|Denstat]] 05:10, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
:::::: What does his so called "involvement" of the goth subculture have ANYTHING to do with his religious or political beliefs? It has nothing to do with his motivations anyhow. Any mention of it should be left out. Quit condemning a fashion/music subculture because of a lunatic.
:::::::I removed the paragraph that went on and on about goth. It was unsourced and not relevant. The one quote about life being like a video game and everyone needs to die happens to include the word goth and metal but I left it because it establishes some context and is widely reported and sourced here. I added another quote about hims hating everyone and needing a 1000 lines to write about everyone he hates. and I sourced it [[User:TheDarknessVisible|TheDarknessVisible]] 07:56, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
 
== "Postal" computer game ==
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Furthermore, I would love to hear from someone who thinks that one can be "of Sikh" origin.. I always thought that Sikhism was a religion. - [[User:Abscissa|Abscissa]] 17:30, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
 
:I've added a 'Personal background' section, similar to the article on [[Sirhan Sirhan]], to address personal facts such as nationality, ethnicity, religion, etc. This way, it's not over-emphasised as in the intro, but it offers a place for such info. — <b>[[User:Sampo_Torgo|<font color="purple"><fontspan style="font-family: wretched" ;color=":#461D7C;">[[User:Sampo_Torgo|Sampo]]</fontspan>]]</font><fontspan style="font-family: wretched" ;color=":#E9B200;"> Torgo</fontspan></b> [[User talk:Sampo_Torgo|<sup><font style="font-family: Tahoma" ;color=":#8CB811;">[[User talk:Sampo_Torgo|[talk]]]</font></sup>]] [[Image:Flag of Acadia.svg|20px|]] @ 17:52, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
 
:Just a comment about the "of origin" thing. Like any religion, it is something you come to accept yourself (or perhaps you reject it). Therefore you cannot "originate" from it. - [[User:Abscissa|Abscissa]] 18:07, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
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::[[User:Steve Lowther|Steve Lowther]] 05:50, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
 
::: I removed it. Its irrelevant. Most biographies on wiki do not mention it. This individual has been the subject of great speculation but most of that actually originates on this wiki page. External blogs argue about these points and cite this wiki page. I haven't seen any indication it is normal to report a persons alleged religion and in fact I see blogs saying he is atheist, satanist and nihilist. I saw 1 blog saying he can't be atheist because he's a goth. many many blogs say he's not a goth. You can't be all 6 things at once. And the reports quote him as hating God. That is not possibile for an atheist anymore than most people can hate Zeus. There is no reliable source that I have found which states his religion. Find his parents or his best friends being quoted. find an authorized biographer. Or even someone who really did their homework and interviews the family extensively. Even if his profile on vampirefreaks said atheist (which I can't confirm) it doesn't actually make him atheist. It mearly means thats what he said. What did he say on his myspace profile? and did he actually argue with anyone or discuss religion with a single witness?[[User:TheDarknessVisible|TheDarknessVisible]] 08:12, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
 
=="His Attempt To Mass Murder Was A Complete Failure"?==
 
Who wrote that? Although it is true, in a way, it seems a little unprofessional. I think this sentence may be subtle vandalism by some smartass, but I'm not sure. Besides, even if the author wasn't being funny, it's still too POV for the article. You could argue that his attempt was NOT a COMPLETE failure, as he did murder one person. Wouldn't a "complete failure" have been if he didn't murder anyone? This sentence is either vandalism or unprofessional writing.
 
:I fully agree. Gill was a "complete failure" as a mass murderer? I imagine that the family and friends of his one victim, Anastasia De Sousa, would beg to differ -- they most likely see his "failure" as not being "complete" enough. Calling Gill a "complete failure at mass murder" is insensitive, insulting and disrespectful to Ms. De Sousa and her loved ones and friends, even if (as I'm guessing) that was not the intention of whoever wrote that sentence.
 
==Requesting Protection==
Listed for semi-protection due to the vandalism: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_page_protection&oldid=79167302 here]
-- [[User:DanielBC|DanielBC]] 02:14, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
 
==[[A Tout Le Monde]]==
 
According to [http://www.chartattack.com/damn/2006/09/2907.cfm this] article, the killer was influenced by [[Megadeth]]'s A Tout Le Monde, as he stated on his VampireFreaks.com blog. I have added a mention to the song's article and I think that there should be a mention here.
 
== LGBT? ==
 
I came to the page it has something about LGBT rights in New Zealand...What the hell is that about?
[[User:72.69.145.201|72.69.145.201]] 22:19, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
:It seems that it was just a bot malfunctioning. It's fixed now. // [[User talk:Poetic Decay|<span style="color:black;">'''''Poetic'''''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Poetic Decay|<span style="color:purple;">'''''Decay'''''</span>]] 22:55, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
 
== Profile Screencap ==
 
Some editor found it necessary to delete the screenshot of Kimveer Gill's [[:Image:Fatality666 profile.gif|profile page]] at vampirefreaks (either because it's wasn't fair use, or because it was too big - they couldn't quite make up their mind).
 
The reason I uploaded the ''whole'' page, rather than just a selective excerpt was that it wasn't up to me to decide what part is relevant and what isn't. And especially in a controversial case like this there should be as little censoring done as possible. It ''is'' a bit over 1MB, but I don't see how people with slow modems should be deciding factor on whether something is newsworthy or not...
 
As the page had been removed from vampirefreaks pretty quickly, and all Google caches are lost by now, this screenshot seemed to be the only way to conserve the page in its completeness.
 
For now I've posted it on [http://img78.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fatality666profileil4.png imageshack], but perhaps some of the people who run the Kimveer Gill blogs would want to copy it to their sites, so that there will be a permanent place where this can be kept. --[[User:Frescard|Frescard]] 17:42, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
 
== Music list ==
 
He mentions Linkin Park twice as well--[[User:66.146.157.12|66.146.157.12]] 21:03, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
 
== deleted photos ==
 
I deleted the photo gallery because all the pictures were listed at PUI and are nonfree and no one spoke up on their behalf. If anyone wants to make an argument that they are fair use, let me or another admin know and I will undelete one or more (though I may challenge the FU argument). Thanks, [[User:Calliopejen1|Calliopejen1]] ([[User talk:Calliopejen1|talk]]) 23:26, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
 
== Remove unencyclopedic material ==
 
"Likes and dislikes", citations and favorites music have no relevance in this article. I also removed the picture of his mug as it is non-notable like most of the article. In fact the very article should be deleted and the few things that are actually relevant should be put in the Dawson College shouting article. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/216.239.78.134|216.239.78.134]] ([[User talk:216.239.78.134|talk]]) 12:50, 29 January 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
 
::"Hi, the recent edit you made to Kimveer Gill has been reverted, as it appears to be unconstructive. Use the sandbox for testing; if you believe the edit was constructive, ensure that you provide an informative edit summary. You may also wish to read the introduction to editing. Thanks. - ✰ALLSTAR✰ echo 12:51, 29 January 2008 (UTC)"
 
 
 
::::Wow, that was fast. Not sure if this is some kind of automated revert bot or something but even if it is this reply might still serve a purpose in better illustrating my point for others (humans) who may agree with me. Ok I think I've explained the reasons for my edit and I do believe it was justified. Though the term "non-constructive" technically might be correct since I only DE-constructed (i.e: removed) unneeded and superfluous material.
 
::::I'm gonna re-add my edit one last time. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/216.239.78.134|216.239.78.134]] ([[User talk:216.239.78.134|talk]]) 13:04, 29 January 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
 
:Well, I'll see what I can do. It's getting really ridiculous now, with stuff like lists of every single band Gill listened to and every video game he played. God dammit, I thought this was settled months ago. I guess some editors just don't pay attention. — <em>[[User:NRen2k5|NRen2k5]]</em><sup>([[User_talk:NRen2k5|TALK]])</sup>, 15:12, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
 
:: Actually, I'm not quite sure now. I've gone through the article and done some pruning, but overall, I think the inclusion of all those little things really improves the article. I think it's good as long as it's kept formatted the way it is - boxed up nice and tight. It's interesting, having all this trivial stuff. I think some people like trying to "get into the killer's mind". — <em>[[User:NRen2k5|NRen2k5]]</em><sup>([[User_talk:NRen2k5|TALK]])</sup>, 16:29, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
 
== Coroner’s report ==
 
I’m hearing in the news (radio CJAD) right now that the coroner’s report on Kimveer Gill has ''still'' not been released, and that the police’s account of his death does not match the wounds seen on his body at his funeral. — <em>[[User:NRen2k5|NRen2k5]]</em><sup>([[User_talk:NRen2k5|TALK]])</sup>, 15:08, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
 
Quebec coroner Dr. Jacques Ramsay released his report on Kimveer Gill (sept 4, 2008) and held a press conference that has been widely quoted in news media. It is unclear if the full report is available to the public. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/70.71.5.46|70.71.5.46]] ([[User talk:70.71.5.46|talk]]) 04:54, 5 September 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
 
== Too much detail? ==
 
I think this article goes into too much trivial detail about this guy's life. Do we really need to know his exact list of favourite bands, or his likes and dislikes? How is that information encyclopaedic? [[User:Terraxos|Terraxos]] ([[User talk:Terraxos|talk]]) 01:49, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
 
: Do you remember Columbine, and all the talk about how Eric and Dylan played Doom and listened to Rammstein? —&nbsp;<em>[[User:NRen2k5|NRen2k5]]</em><sup>([[User_talk:NRen2k5|TALK]])</sup>, 22:46, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
::Surely the world needs to remember that this guy hated warm beer! <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/84.152.73.28|84.152.73.28]] ([[User talk:84.152.73.28|talk]]) 20:03, 9 April 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
 
The details, likes and dislikes, and more trivia facts about this person are really not appropriate encyclopedia content. The whole article should be rewritten in a concise fact format. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/193.180.10.21|193.180.10.21]] ([[User talk:193.180.10.21|talk]]) 10:41, 13 September 2016 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
 
== Merged with [[Dawson College shooting]]? ==
 
Should this article be merged with the shooting wiki? Steve Kazmierczak, Robert A. Hawkins, and Sulejman Talović are examples of spree killers who have had their wiki merged in with the original shooting wiki. Kimveer Gill does not seem to hold much notability to have a wiki, other than the shooting. [[Special:Contributions/192.82.21.47|192.82.21.47]] ([[User talk:192.82.21.47|talk]]) 01:52, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
*Yes, also see [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Log/2006_September_18]], [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Dawson_College_shooting/Archive_2]] in which other people express the desire to see this merged. <span style="font-family:Cambria;">[[User:Abductive|<span style="color:teal;">'''Abductive'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Abductive|reasoning]])</span> 00:14, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
 
* This does not constitute a current merge discussion. Stale. <span style="border:2px solid darkgreen;margin-top:2px;bottom:2px;font- verdana;background:lightblue" > [[User:Taroaldo|<span style="color:black;">'''Taroaldo'''</span>]] [[User talk:Taroaldo|<span style="color:Red;">'''<big>✉</big>'''</span>]]</span> 20:57, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
 
==Columbine Super Massacre RPG==
I don't know why the main page insists this isn't listed as one of his favorite games on his VampireFreaks profile. I'm looking at a cached copy of the profile and it is 100% on there.
 
== online statements too one-sided ==
 
All of the angry ones are detailed, but what about this?
 
"VF Girls September 06, 2006, 04:15:am
Hey vf babies, hope you're all doing o.k.
 
Sorry there's so many motherfuckers in the world, if i was there i'd help you out. But in the meantime, don't cut yourselves, don't cry, and definatley don't kill yourselves. You're my babies :) (hugs and teddy bears for all)
 
None of what you feel is your fault, it's the worlds fault. It's your parents fault, it's the churches fault, it's your classmates fault, it's your co-workers fault, it's gods fault, it's societies fault, it's those so called friends of yours (who arn't really friends at all) fault.
 
My heart bleeds when i here about you hurting yourself, because of what the world has done."
 
http://www.kimveergill.net/journal03.html
 
[[Special:Contributions/24.8.141.123|24.8.141.123]] ([[User talk:24.8.141.123|talk]]) 18:24, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 
== immaturity ==
 
kimveer gill with his bedroom posters, posturing, silly mask (aged 25). Maybe "vampirefreaks" managed to keep him there. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/92.5.14.76|92.5.14.76]] ([[User talk:92.5.14.76|talk]]) 10:02, 6 July 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
 
== Confusion - military training ==
 
"He was deemed unsuitable for military service and agreed to leave before receiving extensive weapons training."
 
I'm sorry - I don't understand this. Does it mean he was deemed unsuitable and agreed to leave, and then completed "extensive weapons training" and THEN *finally* was released, or does it mean that he was released before he WOULD HAVE normally received "extensive weapons training"? I'm not too familiar with this area of history.
--[[Special:Contributions/121.72.149.217|121.72.149.217]] ([[User talk:121.72.149.217|talk]]) 04:00, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
 
he was too stupid and immature to be a soldier 121.72.149.217 <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/81.152.190.186|81.152.190.186]] ([[User talk:81.152.190.186|talk]]) 00:30, 12 March 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
 
== Homosexuality ==
 
It states in the last paragraph of the background section that "In detailed interviews with Gill's friends from the Punjabi community it was revealed that Gill was not accepted in the community because of his perceived homosexuality and feminine demeanor." In the citation given, this is not mentioned, and I also googled it and failed to find any reliable sources to justify that contention. Shall I remove it? [[User:JDiala|JDiala]] ([[User talk:JDiala|talk]]) 21:01, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
 
== No one gives a fuck. ==
 
This article is a one section of worthless drivel after another. The likes and dislikes is just a cut-n-paste of his profile that doesn't even exist anymore on some niche website. This page is a memorial not an encyclopedic article. I can't believe this bullshit made it to the front page. [[User:Jyg|Jyg]] ([[User talk:Jyg|talk]]) 03:17, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
:I have to second that. This page is a homage to this fuck. Wikipediea should be ashamed to have such a worthless, slanted, non-NEUTRIL article on it's front page. What a joke it's become. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:12.157.20.3|12.157.20.3]] ([[User talk:12.157.20.3|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/12.157.20.3|contribs]]) </span></small>
:{{ping|Jyg}} If so inclined, open an [[wp:article for deletion]] ticket. [[User:Jim1138|Jim1138]] ([[User talk:Jim1138|talk]]) 07:22, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
::I think the subject/topic is worthy of being within Wikipedia, it's just that the page itself is garbage. Sorry if I wasn't clear. It's not that no one gives a fuck about Gill or the subject matter of his crime. It's that no one gives a fuck about the 37 bands he liked or the 62 movies he liked or the 34 video games he liked. Its unecessary for the task of educating readers appropriately. I wouldn't have said much of anything really if this hadn't made to the front page, which is itself mind-boggling. I thought such choices were vetted by hand... [[User:Jyg|Jyg]] ([[User talk:Jyg|talk]]) 07:43, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
 
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