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== Greetings ==
Hello, I hope you are well and that the sun is shining where you are. [[User:Jehochman|Jehochman]] <sup>[[User talk:Jehochman|Talk]]</sup> 13:33, 16 June 2025 (UTC)
:All day and all night, [[User:Jehochman|Jonathan]]. Hope all is well with you. [[User:Bishonen|Bishonen]] | [[User talk:Bishonen|tålk]] 20:49, 16 June 2025 (UTC).
::I believe you. We just visited Iceland. We could sleep late and still have a full day worth of daylight to do whatever we wanted. It was quite excellent, especially the [[Westman Islands]]. [[User:Jehochman|Jehochman]] <sup>[[User talk:Jehochman|Talk]]</sup> 01:02, 17 June 2025 (UTC)
:::Oh, did you get a look at Heimaey, and at Surtsey, the "new" island, [[User:Jehochman|Jonathan]]? I just realized Surtsey is shrinking quite fast. And, get this, there has been a tomato disaster on the island, caused by an improperly managed, err, something or other.[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surtsey#Human_impact]! [[User:Bishonen|Bishonen]] | [[User talk:Bishonen|tålk]] 22:48, 17 June 2025 (UTC).
::::We hiked all over Heimaey. Surstey is the furthest rock, which we might have seen on the horizon from Big Head. Hard to say for there are lots of little islands out there. The trail that rings the Big Head lighthouse is often just a few meters from the top of the sea cliffs. It’s a thrilling hike, especially on a windy day. No safety rails of course — you’re responsible for yourself. [[User:Jehochman|Jehochman]] <sup>[[User talk:Jehochman|Talk]]</sup> 23:01, 17 June 2025 (UTC)
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== June music ==
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[[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#17 Jun|Stravinsky]] pictured on his birthday + Vienna pics - but too many who died -- [[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 21:49, 17 June 2025 (UTC)
:Thanks, Gerda! Oh, look, foxglove, source of digitalis! [[User:Bishonen|Bishonen]] | [[User talk:Bishonen|tålk]] 22:51, 17 June 2025 (UTC).
:: yes - too many died, see [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#18 Jun|my story]] and listen to [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hG8Zd0xLZg Comfort ye] (sung in German) --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 15:00, 18 June 2025 (UTC)
:: While you are of course invited to check out my recommendations any day, today offers unusually [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#28 Jun|a great writer of novels]], [[User talk:Gerda Arendt#Music|music with light]] and [[User:Gerda Arendt/Places and songs 2025#12 Jun|a place with exquisite food]]. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 15:48, 28 June 2025 (UTC)
== Hello, I'm new. ==
Where I can read the style guide? Thanks. [[User:IGOTTOOPHONES|IGOTTOOPHONES]] ([[User talk:IGOTTOOPHONES|talk]]) 05:47, 20 June 2025 (UTC)
:<small>(comment from passing [[WP:JAGUAR|jaguar...]])</small> You can find the Manual of Style (MOS) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style here]. Also, if you look in the far-left column of the page, you will find links to other helpful sources, especially beneath the "Contribute" tab, including [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Contents Help] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Introduction Learn to edit]. Have fun! [[User:JoJo Anthrax|JoJo Anthrax]] ([[User talk:JoJo Anthrax|talk]]) 06:26, 20 June 2025 (UTC)
:: [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IGOTTOOPHONES&diff=prev&oldid=1296477115 Oopsie.] [[User:JoJo Anthrax|JoJo Anthrax]] ([[User talk:JoJo Anthrax|talk]]) 09:36, 20 June 2025 (UTC)
:::I guess you can't help being a nice guy, [[User:JoJo Anthrax|JoJo]]. [[User:Bishonen|Bishonen]] | [[User talk:Bishonen|tålk]] 10:53, 20 June 2025 (UTC).
:::: I suspect several people around here would disagree with you on that score. And regarding your edit summary, we are not "old." We are Experienced. With a capital E! [[User:JoJo Anthrax|JoJo Anthrax]] ([[User talk:JoJo Anthrax|talk]]) 12:11, 20 June 2025 (UTC)
== Not sure what to do.. ==
Sorry to bother you, Bishonen! I am not sure why I have been dragged into the topic ban on castes in the ongoing arbitration related to Indian military history! Only because I had reported against POV pushing by Dympies (Rajput) for which he has already been banned! And canvassing? I had openly left messages on the talk pages of some admins including you when an editor reported against me at AE! Aren't admins supposed to be neutral? Anyway, I have already been warned for personal attacks (mostly related to Dympies) and canvassing by admins (WP:AE). But action would be taken again for the same offence? Is it logical? Even {{u|Sitush}} has supported me since he is aware of my contributions related to caste articles; please see [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk%3AArbitration%2FRequests%2FCase%2FIndian_military_history%2FProposed_decision&diff=1297159358&oldid=1297145670 this]. Honestly speaking, I am not sure what to do! Best Regards. [[User:Ekdalian|Ekdalian]] ([[User talk:Ekdalian|talk]]) 14:06, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
:@[[User:Ekdalian|Ekdalian]] I actually tried to strike my comment that you link to, not because I have changed my mind but because the talk page rules seem to mean I should not have said it there. It isn't showing as being struck, but my attempt to do so is in the edit history. Not at all sure what is going there.
:For the record, I stand by what I said in the comment, whether or not it is struck through. - [[User:Sitush|Sitush]] ([[User talk:Sitush|talk]]) 14:45, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
::SFR merely moved your comment, Sitush - you were supposed to create a section of your own. I agree with you, and have now said so. [[User:Bishonen|Bishonen]] | [[User talk:Bishonen|tålk]] 15:28, 24 June 2025 (UTC).
::::Yep, thanks. SFR moved it as I was writing here. I got the ping from them as soon as I finished my msg above. But prior to that, it was still showing as not struck-through. It will probably be another app bug.
::::Thanks for weighing-in there, too. - [[User:Sitush|Sitush]] ([[User talk:Sitush|talk]]) 16:07, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
:::::Bishonen and {{u|Sitush}}, thank you both for your comments on the relevant talk page! Best Regards. [[User:Ekdalian|Ekdalian]] ([[User talk:Ekdalian|talk]]) 16:54, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
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Don't think you actually pressed the buttons here, FYI. Cheers, [[User:Daniel|Daniel]] ([[User talk:Daniel|talk]]) 09:42, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
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Thanks for handling that situation for me, it was clear that his first block taught him nothing about [[WP:BOSS]]. I was halfway to writing something to ANI about him when I saw you blocked him. <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; border-radius:35% 0; font-weight:bold; background:linear-gradient(300deg,#ff0d00,#1AD); color:#fff; padding:2px 5px;">[[User:Gommeh|<span style="color: white;">Gommeh</span>]] [[User talk:Gommeh|🎮]]</span> 21:17, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
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::Yeah I did actually. Some people are willing to do anything to stay under our radar. <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS; border-radius:35% 0; font-weight:bold; background:linear-gradient(300deg,#ff0d00,#1AD); color:#fff; padding:2px 5px;">[[User:Gommeh|<span style="color: white;">Gommeh</span>]] [[User talk:Gommeh|🎮]]</span> 21:24, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
== [[User:Tamilcontent1]] ==
He may have to be indeffed at some point. If you are aware, he removed your messages from his talkpage. <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family: Papyrus">[[User:Kailash29792|<b style="color: black;">Kailash29792</b>]] [[User talk:Kailash29792|<span style="color: black;">(talk)</span>]] </span> 02:09, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
:The user is free to remove messages, [[User:Kailash29792|Kailash29792]]. See [[WP:REMOVED]]. [[User:Bishonen|Bishonen]] | [[User talk:Bishonen|tålk]] 08:48, 7 July 2025 (UTC).
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Today is Bastille Day, commemorated by a DYK as my "story" and a visit to the Bastille Opera in "music". I like the interview coming with the story, on the day before the big event, but for pomp and circumstance, the affair with 600 singing children and orchestra, and the singer dressed in the national flag, was also captured on videos, much slower. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 16:22, 14 July 2025 (UTC)
:Allons enfants de la patrie, [[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda]]! [[User:Bishonen|Bishonen]] | [[User talk:Bishonen|tålk]] 20:19, 14 July 2025 (UTC).
:: [[Talk:Helena Tattermuschová]] - what do you think about that slow edit war? --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 21:05, 14 July 2025 (UTC)
:: Floq passed a warning. - Check out places for a great smile, - he had just stepped in to play Chopin's [[Piano Concerto No. 2 (Chopin)|Piano Concerto No. 2]], successfully! --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 19:04, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
:: PFHLai left a kind long message. - Three Ukrainian topics were on the main page today, at least at the beginning, [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#17 Jul|RD]] and [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#18 Jul|DYK]], - see my talk. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 16:45, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
:: [[Béatrice Uria-Monzon]] and [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#26 Jul|her story]], [[Julia Hagen]] and her [[Template:Did you know nominations/Julia Hagen|no story]] --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 20:25, 26 July 2025 (UTC)
:::Thank you, [[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda]]. [[User:Bishonen|Bishonen]] | [[User talk:Bishonen|tålk]] 20:31, 26 July 2025 (UTC).
:::: On [[Bach]]'s day of death, I decorated my user pages in memory of his music, and [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#28 Jul|my story]] ends on "peace". --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 10:20, 28 July 2025 (UTC)
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Why? [[User:Bishonen|Bishonen]] | [[User talk:Bishonen|tålk]] 01:15, 28 July 2025 (UTC).
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== Editor you blocked ==
Hello, you recently blocked editor {{ping|Italianpasta999}} a little over a week ago. They repeatedly keep reverting an edit that goes against the MOS on [[Trisha Paytas]] per [[WP:BIOFAMILY]]. I sent them a warning and they responded back saying {{xt|"do you… sit and refresh Trisha’s page all day? giving jobless"}} - I think this falls under a personal attack per [[WP:PA]]. I would advise giving them a longer block as this editor is clearly not here to build an encyclopedia. [[User:Pillowdelight|Pillowdelight]] ([[User talk:Pillowdelight|talk]]) 07:40, 30 July 2025 (UTC)
:“They repeatedly keep reverting an edit” mind you, you’ve reverted the page more times than I have . [[User:Italianpasta999|Italianpasta999]] ([[User talk:Italianpasta999|talk]]) 07:43, 30 July 2025 (UTC)
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:::Could you give your opinion on this [[:Talk:Trisha Paytas#Is it permitted for the article to contain the names of the subject's children]] - two editors are indicating that the policy I've used is incorrect despite myself seeing many editors use it for the purpose I used it for. They have also pinged the blocked editor as well in it. [[User:Pillowdelight|Pillowdelight]] ([[User talk:Pillowdelight|talk]]) 10:05, 30 July 2025 (UTC)
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:::::@[[User:Bishonen|Bishonen]] ''Pyaaz Kachori'' was blocked by you I saw he recently created an article that was created many times before by socks and deleted at AfD.[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Jhala_Manna][https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Jhala_Man_Singh][https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_Singh_Jhala] read in deleted discussions sources used here again are same as previous one also image, infobox and lead is also same.[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Jhala_Man_Singh&diff=prev&oldid=1239796128][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Jhala_Man_Singh&diff=prev&oldid=1239247180] That article was deleted many times by [[User:Dclemens1971|Dclemens1971]]. [[User:Dolphish|Dirty Dolphish]] ([[User talk:Dolphish|talk]]) 16:05, 19 August 2025 (UTC)
::::::Recreated under quite a few different names, I see! I have speedy deleted the one you mention, [[User:Dolphish|Dirty Dolphish]]. [[User:Bishonen|Bishonen]] | [[User talk:Bishonen|tålk]] 16:52, 19 August 2025 (UTC).
:::::::Thank you. [[User:Dolphish|Dirty Dolphish]] ([[User talk:Dolphish|talk]]) 22:48, 19 August 2025 (UTC)
== Unprotected welcome template ==
Hello, since both the project and talk pages of [[WP:RFP]] are semi-protected, I cannot make a suggestion there. I have noticed that when an editor welcomed me (and forgetting to substitute it), I then inadvertently edited [[Template:Register]] directly when replying. The history shows that this also happened with other editors before. It seems to me like it would be a good idea for the template to at least be semi-protected. I thought that I would ask an administrator directly, in case they wish to proxy my request to RFP or to directly protect it. Thank you very much. [[Special:Contributions/206.248.143.75|206.248.143.75]] ([[User talk:206.248.143.75|talk]]) 05:56, 7 August 2025 (UTC)
:Hi, experienced user now locked out of your account. So, somebody welcomes you, forgetting to subst, and then you reply, accidentally getting [[Special:Diff/1303237191|this]] instead of replying on your own page, and this is what you want to avoid. But... assume you're actually a new user. Then, if the template were semi'd your attempt to reply, potentially directly in the template, would simply fail. Wouldn't you merely be frustrated, and not reply at all? Or would you understand what happened and make sure you replied to the user who wrote to you? I think probably the first, don't you? <s>Also, suppose you were a non-autoconfirmed user so eager that you wanted to welcome others? You wouldn't be able to. That may not happen very often, but it would be unfortunate.</s> Note also that there are many, many welcome templates, that would all have to be semi'd, not just [[Template:Register]].
:So I'm not sure about this. But maybe there are subtleties I'm missing. I suggest you post on some appropriate board, for wider input. You can edit most boards. [[WP:AN]], for example, or the [[WP:Village Pump|Village Pump]]. How about [[WP:PROPS]]? [[User:Bishonen|Bishonen]] | [[User talk:Bishonen|tålk]] 09:05, 7 August 2025 (UTC).
::Hmmm. On second thoughts, no, a non-autoconfirmed user ''would'' still be able to welcome others, I wasn't figuring it right. [[User:Bishonen|Bishonen]] | [[User talk:Bishonen|tålk]] 09:14, 7 August 2025 (UTC).
:::Yes it would neither prevent issuing the template nor editing one's talk page, only prevent the error of editing the template itself by clicking on the wrong "edit" link. It's true that I could ask at [[WP:AN]] which has no semiprotection... [[Special:Contributions/206.248.143.75|206.248.143.75]] ([[User talk:206.248.143.75|talk]]) 07:32, 15 August 2025 (UTC)
== Violation of the new rules on caste articles ==
Hi Bishonen.. a new user (SPA), {{noping|Facelesswiki}} is violating the rules on contentious caste articles in spite of being informed (on the user talk) that they are not supposed to edit caste articles (minimum 500 edits required)! Can you please have a look at the revision history of the article on [[Barujibi]] and the user talk page. Best Regards. [[User:Ekdalian|Ekdalian]] ([[User talk:Ekdalian|talk]]) 12:38, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
:Sure. I've warned as clearly as possible. Thank you, [[User:Ekdalian|Ekdalian]]. [[User:Bishonen|Bishonen]] | [[User talk:Bishonen|tålk]] 12:46, 10 August 2025 (UTC).
::Thank you! Best Regards. [[User:Ekdalian|Ekdalian]] ([[User talk:Ekdalian|talk]]) 12:49, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
== Level 2 harassment warning ==
You are correct. I saw the 'misinterpreted' but thought that as it was followed by 'or viewed as harassment' it might do. I must admit, I rarely use level 2 because if it is mild, I have left a personalised message with links and a reminder this isn't social media. I should have gone to level 3 straight away as it is unambiguous personal attacks and/or harrassment. Thank you for the reminder, much appreciated. [[User:Knitsey|<span style="color:DarkMagenta">Knitsey</span>]] ([[User talk:Knitsey|<span style="color: maroon">talk</span>]]) 23:41, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
== https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Vote_Chori_Hoax ==
[[Draft:Vote Chori Hoax]]
hey bish check this [[User:Kadamb Patil|Kadamb Patil]] ([[User talk:Kadamb Patil|talk]]) 11:39, 17 August 2025 (UTC)
:You'd do well to check the citations - around half of the links go nowhere. Is this LLM-generated hallucinated output? [[User:AndyTheGrump|AndyTheGrump]] ([[User talk:AndyTheGrump|talk]])
::Thanks, [[User:AndyTheGrump|Andy]]. The sock has been blocked. [[User:Bishonen|Bishonen]] | [[User talk:Bishonen|tålk]] 17:28, 17 August 2025 (UTC).
==User==
===Problematic user===
@[[User:Bishonen|Bishonen]] Sir. User {{noping|HistorianAlferedo}}[https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/HistorianAlferedo] is blocked with {{noping|VikRagnarr}}[https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/VikRagnarr] for confirmed sockpuppetry who is also active for disruption in Indian caste related articles on this platform. Please block them and also save this platform.
They are blocked for sockpuppetry by [[Wikipedia:CheckUser#CheckUser blocks|CheckUser block-account]] on simple Wikipedia. He should be only allowed [[Simple:WP:ONESTRIKE|under one strike rule]] to work on English Wikipedia if he commits more mistakes on English Wikipedia he should be blocked. I've reported this user on simple Wikipedia ANI and English Wikipedia ANI, but no one takes strict action.[[Special:Contributions/2402:E000:44A:242E:0:0:0:1|2402:E000:44A:242E:0:0:0:1]] ([[User talk:2402:E000:44A:242E:0:0:0:1|talk]]) 04:44, 18 August 2025 (UTC)
:@[[User:Bishonen|Bishonen]] Sir. also check disruption on this platform by this user in highly [[WP:CT/SA|contentious
:South Asian caste]] articles.
:#He posted Copyrighted content on [[Dhir Singh Pundir]] [https://copyvios.toolforge.org/?lang=en&project=wikipedia&title=Ramprasad+%28elephant%29&oldid=&action=search&use_engine=1&use_links=1&turnitin=0][https://copyvios.toolforge.org/?lang=en&project=wikipedia&title=Dhir+Singh+Pundir&oldid=&action=search&use_engine=1&use_links=1&turnitin=0][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:HistorianAlferedo&diff=prev&oldid=1303344707] [[Kachhwaha]], [https://copyvios.toolforge.org/?lang=en&project=wikipedia&title=Kachhwaha&oldid=1303743938&action=search&use_engine=1&use_links=1&turnitin=0][https://copyvios.toolforge.org/?lang=en&project=wikipedia&title=Kachhwaha&oldid=1303742354&action=search&use_engine=1&use_links=1&turnitin=0][https://copyvios.toolforge.org/?lang=en&project=wikipedia&title=Kachhwaha&oldid=1303746405&action=search&use_engine=1&use_links=1&turnitin=0] and Political marriages.[https://copyvios.toolforge.org/?lang=en&project=wikipedia&title=Political+marriages+in+India&oldid=1295670755&action=search&use_engine=1&use_links=1&turnitin=0]
:#Citing poor sources from WordPress.[https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Baj_Singh&diff=prev&oldid=1304329544] citing non reliable sources of Sikhhero.com and WordPress.com on [[Wikipedia:Contentious topics/South Asia|contentious caste articles]]. [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Rajputs&diff=prev&oldid=1303169777]
:#Caste promotion with unreliable travel guide books source that also not mentioned any caste origin.[https://books.google.co.in/books?id=d1JJCgAAQBAJ&pg=PT455&dq=karauli&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&source=gb_mobile_search&ovdme=1&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjt16vww8aLAxW_RmcHHaH5LEQQ6AF6BAgJEAM#v=onepage&q=karauli&f=false]
:#Removed sourced information with invalid edit summary.[https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rajgarh_Fort&diff=prev&oldid=1296559679]
:#Removed other caste names[https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Budaun&diff=prev&oldid=1303207456][https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rao_Bal_Kishan&diff=prev&oldid=1301611003][https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Umrao_Singh_Bhati&diff=prev&oldid=1301613189] from articles but added [[Rajput|rajput caste]] name on many articles openly pushing rajput caste POV.[https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Anangpur&diff=prev&oldid=1303310578][https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Karauli_state&diff=prev&oldid=1275911984][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rawal_Jaisal&diff=prev&oldid=1296637506][https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Anangpur&diff=prev&oldid=1303310578] [[Special:Contributions/2402:E000:429:3FB0:0:0:0:1|2402:E000:429:3FB0:0:0:0:1]] ([[User talk:2402:E000:429:3FB0:0:0:0:1|talk]]) 05:01, 18 August 2025 (UTC)
*Hi, IP. I can't block HistorianAlferedo for sockpuppetry, since their Simple sock has not been active here. I warned them for bad sourcing a couple of days ago, as you probably saw, and they haven't edited since. Thank you for providing further examples, but I can't block when they haven't edited after my warning. If and when they do, with again poor sources and/or caste promotion, I definitely will. But I suspect they're gone - my warning may be enough to show them they have no future here. In case they edit disruptively later and I miss it, please feel free to let me know. [[User:Bishonen|Bishonen]] | [[User talk:Bishonen|tålk]] 09:13, 18 August 2025 (UTC).
::PS. Where did they use ''Seeing Spiritual India'', that you link to in your note 13? [[User:Bishonen|Bishonen]] | [[User talk:Bishonen|tålk]] 09:17, 18 August 2025 (UTC).
:::Okay, no problem, but if he repeats all these mistakes, then you can block. I came from simple Wikipedia; that's why I'm well aware of his poor sourcing, sometimes bad-faith edits & caste pov. He used it in [[Karauli state]] and declared the state as [[Rajput]] state. But these sources didn't confirm caste origin, and these two sources are also unreliable. Including source [13].[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Karauli_state&diff=prev&oldid=1275911046] Nitinmlk also asked this editor to provide quotes for many sources he added on other caste articles, but he hasn't provided them yet. I think this user also used sources on other articles for caste claims, but such claims might not be present in the sources. [[Special:Contributions/2402:E000:444:5E6D:0:0:0:1|2402:E000:444:5E6D:0:0:0:1]] ([[User talk:2402:E000:444:5E6D:0:0:0:1|talk]]) 21:06, 18 August 2025 (UTC)
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[[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#18 Aug|Today's story]] - short version: ten years ago we had a DYK about a soprano who sang in concerts with me in the choir, - longer: I found ''today'' a youtube of [[Mass in B minor structure#Laudamus te|an aria]] she sang with us then, recorded the same year, - if you still have time: our performances were the weekend before the Iraq war ultimatum, and we sang [[Mass in B minor structure#Dona nobis pacem|Dona nobis pacem]] (and the drummer drummed!) as if they could hear us in Washington. -- [[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 15:26, 18 August 2025 (UTC)
Check out my talk for an Independence day, or: the pic of Oksana Lyniv was taken on 24 August. There's listening and reading in [[User:Gerda Arendt/Stories#24 Aug|today's story]], and I like both. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 18:24, 24 August 2025 (UTC)
:I'm going to put a music section on my Talk page. I'm going to call it "Roxy Music." [[User:Roxy the dog|'''Roxy''' ]]the [[User talk:Roxy the dog|'''dog''']] 18:34, 24 August 2025 (UTC)
== FYI ==
[[User talk:GoddessWrath]] - user is continuing to use personal attacks in edit summaries after block. [[User:Home Lander|Home Lander]] ([[User talk:Home Lander|talk]]) 19:54, 27 August 2025 (UTC)
:Ha, good ones. {{u|CambridgeBayWeather}} already got to it. Thanks, [[User:Home Lander|Home Lander]]. [[User:Bishonen|Bishonen]] | [[User talk:Bishonen|tålk]] 22:03, 27 August 2025 (UTC).
::Changed my signature twice base on the edit summary. [[User:CambridgeBayWeather|CambridgeBayWeather]] (#1 deranged), [[User talk:CambridgeBayWeather|Uqaqtuq (talk)]], [[Special:Contributions/CambridgeBayWeather|Huliva]] 22:37, 27 August 2025 (UTC)
::: 🙂 Much better response than dignifying it with revdel. Hmm. Should I add "stable genius" to mine? [[User:Bishonen|Bishonen]] | [[User talk:Bishonen|tålk]] 08:41, 28 August 2025 (UTC).
== Violation of the new rules on caste in spite of all warnings ==
Hi Bishonen.. the user {{noping|GhoshiThakur}} seems to be only interested in caste; the user has been violating the rules in spite of warnings and discussions! They may be a sock of {{u|GhoshThakur}} as the name suggests! Can you please have a look at [[User talk: GhoshiThakur]] and their contributions! Best Regards. [[User:Ekdalian|Ekdalian]] ([[User talk:Ekdalian|talk]]) 12:51, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
:Probably the same person, yes, and also an incompetent editor. I've blocked + asked them about the sock situation. [[User:Bishonen|Bishonen]] | [[User talk:Bishonen|tålk]] 13:17, 28 August 2025 (UTC).
::Thank you for your prompt action! Best Regards. [[User:Ekdalian|Ekdalian]] ([[User talk:Ekdalian|talk]]) 13:28, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
:::Lot of unblock requests on their page now, {{u|Ekdalian}}! They denied any connection with the other account, but a checkuser thought differently. All figured out thanks to your good tip. [[User:Bishonen|Bishonen]] | [[User talk:Bishonen|tålk]] 16:13, 28 August 2025 (UTC).
::::Honestly speaking, I always try to protect these articles (from obvious caste promotion)! And I closely watch the users involved. I would like to thank you for taking appropriate action every time I report such users! Thanks for being here. Best Regards. [[User:Ekdalian|Ekdalian]] ([[User talk:Ekdalian|talk]]) 16:24, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
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