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===[[:Arthur Riedacker]]===▼
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The result was '''delete'''. Clear (unamimous?) consensus to delete, once you ignore the sock-o-rama. -- [[User:RoySmith|RoySmith]] [[User Talk:RoySmith|(talk)]] 16:06, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
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*'''Comment'''. Seriously, there doesn't seem to be much to go on here. Not sure about "group Nobel". Will try to do some checking. [[User:Agricola44|Agricola44]] ([[User talk:Agricola44|talk]]) 15:42, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
*'''Delete'''. Any claim to a share of the [[2007 Nobel Peace Prize]] is spurious. According to the award citation, IPCC received the prize for the totality of its efforts over several decades: "Through the scientific reports it has issued over the past two decades, the IPCC has created an ever-broader informed consensus about the connection between human activities and global warming. Thousands of scientists and officials from over one hundred countries have collaborated to achieve greater certainty as to the scale of the warming". Moreover, in science, having reviewed/refereed an important article does not entitle you to a credit for that article. GScholar citations appear to be fairly low, even for a field like agronomy, with h-index around 7, and the top-cited article having only 30 citations. I am not seeing anything else here to justify passing [[WP:PROF]] on any other grounds. [[User:Nsk92|Nsk92]] ([[User talk:Nsk92|talk]]) 13:02, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
*'''Speedy Keep''' He is notable Scientist and academician. His contribution in literature is also remarkable. He is writer and public speaker, motivating young generation and he is guiding torch in his specialised area.[[Special:Contributions/2405:205:312F:5E4C:67D9:6CEF:709A:D3C3|2405:205:312F:5E4C:67D9:6CEF:709A:D3C3]] ([[User talk:2405:205:312F:5E4C:67D9:6CEF:709A:D3C3|talk]]) 01:13, 20 February 2018 (UTC) <small>— [[Special:Contributions/2405:205:312F:5E4C:67D9:6CEF:709A:D3C3|2405:205:312F:5E4C:67D9:6CEF:709A:D3C3]] ([[User talk:2405:205:312F:5E4C:67D9:6CEF:709A:D3C3|talk]]) has made [[Wikipedia:Single-purpose account|few or no other edits]] outside this topic. </small>
**Please see [[WP:PROF]] for the notability requirements for Wikipedia articles about academics. You need to provide specific verifiable evidence of the subject satisfying some criterion/criteria of [[WP:PROF]]. Your personal expressions of appreciation don't count. [[User:Nsk92|Nsk92]] ([[User talk:Nsk92|talk]]) 01:42, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
*** Given that his published papers have been [https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Arthur_Riedacker cited 243 times], I think an argument could be made of passing the [[WP:NACADEMIC]] standard. People are ignoring that though. Meh. --[[User:Hammersoft|Hammersoft]] ([[User talk:Hammersoft|talk]]) 04:54, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
****No, we are not ignoring it. You are quoting the grand total number of citations for all of the papers he has written (which, according to his ResearchGate profile that you linked to above, is about 34 papers, plus 3 book chapters, and 1 book, with an average number of citations per publication of about 6.4). The total number of citations is never a proof of notability. Note that [[WP:PROF]] is quite specific about how to satisfy [[WP:PROF#C1]] on citability grounds: ``either several extremely highly cited scholarly publications or a substantial number of scholarly publications with significant citation rates". Neither one of these two requirements is satisfied in this case. The subject's h-index is low, and the top cited paper has only 30 citations, which is also a low number. [[User:Nsk92|Nsk92]] ([[User talk:Nsk92|talk]]) 05:52, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
***** I'm not suggesting a [[WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS]] argument, but I've seen quite a few other [[WP:NACADEMIC]] discussions where the traction of their papers was considerably less, and equally had little else to go on. I'm not suggesting a keep here, nor a delete for that matter. As I noted above, I wanted to get what I found onto the discussion. But, people are focusing on the Nobel prize discussion and not elsewhere. Again, meh. --[[User:Hammersoft|Hammersoft]] ([[User talk:Hammersoft|talk]]) 12:33, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
******I don't know whom you mean by "people" in "people are focusing". There have been only one actual delete !vote here (mine) thus far, and I did not ignore the citations, but did address it. Please read my original delete comment again. To repeat: the citability data here is very unremarkable, with the h-index being low (in single digits) and the top-cited papers (30, 28, 18) having rather low citation counts as well. Nothing else in the record indicates passing [[WP:PROF]] on any other grounds. Looks like a clear-cut 'delete' case to me, unless somebody brings up some substantial new information. [[User:Nsk92|Nsk92]] ([[User talk:Nsk92|talk]]) 14:46, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' He is notable educationists and chair professor. Chair professor are notable. He is expert on climate change issues.[[Special:Contributions/157.36.214.220|157.36.214.220]] ([[User talk:157.36.214.220|talk]]) 15:06, 20 February 2018 (UTC) <small>— [[Special:Contributions/157.36.214.220|157.36.214.220]] ([[User talk:157.36.214.220|talk]]) has made [[Wikipedia:Single-purpose account|few or no other edits]] outside this topic. </small>
**Whatever do you mean by "chair professor"? Where? When? No evidence has been presented of him holding a faculty appointment at any university, let alone of a named chair appointment, which is what would be required for passing [[WP:PROF#C5]]. [[User:Nsk92|Nsk92]] ([[User talk:Nsk92|talk]]) 23:42, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' Citation counts are far too low for [[WP:PROF#C1]], and I can't find evidence to support a pass on any other point of [[WP:PROF]] (or any other guideline). [[User:XOR'easter|XOR'easter]] ([[User talk:XOR'easter|talk]]) 16:59, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
*:Oh, and an entire section was a copyvio. [[User:XOR'easter|XOR'easter]] ([[User talk:XOR'easter|talk]]) 17:03, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
*'''keep''' He is eminent Scientist and authority on climate change.[[Special:Contributions/171.79.157.226|171.79.157.226]] ([[User talk:171.79.157.226|talk]]) 01:40, 22 February 2018 (UTC)<small>— [[Special:Contributions/171.79.157.226|171.79.157.226]] ([[User talk:171.79.157.226|talk]]) has made [[Wikipedia:Single-purpose account|few or no other edits]] outside this topic. </small>
*'''Keep''' He is author, scientist and french speaker.[[Special:Contributions/115.113.72.204|115.113.72.204]] ([[User talk:115.113.72.204|talk]]) 07:20, 24 February 2018 (UTC)<small>— [[Special:Contributions/115.113.72.204|115.113.72.204]] ([[User talk:115.113.72.204|talk]]) has made [[Wikipedia:Single-purpose account|few or no other edits]] outside this topic. </small>
*'''Delete.''' does not meet the GNG, or WP:PROF. WP:PROF is based on being an authority in ones field. This is normally judged in the academic world by citations. He has a number of published papers, but the highest citations as shown in Google Scholar are 30, 28, 18,15. Environmental studies is a field where important papers are cited much more than this. We do not add up the total number of citation--that shows more than doing a lot of insignigificant work, which does not make anyone an authority in their subject. '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 05:34, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
*'''Delete'''. He appears to be merely a researcher at INRA, not (as our article says) "the director": [http://www.iddri.org/Iddri/Intervenants-auteurs/Arthur-Riedacker this page] lists him as "chercheur" and he is nowhere to be found on the [http://institut.inra.fr/en/Organisation/Organisation-Chart INRA org chart]. And his citation record is [[WP:TOOSOON|not yet]] strong enough for [[WP:PROF#C1]]. Likewise I can neither verify the claim of being "chair of Oikos Food Security" nor is it clear that even if verified it would be enough for notability. So we have no evidence of any kind of notability. —[[User:David Eppstein|David Eppstein]] ([[User talk:David Eppstein|talk]]) 08:42, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
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