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:''The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a [[Wikipedia:Deletion review|deletion review]]). No further edits should be made to this page. ''
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The result of the debate was - '''Keep'''
=== [[Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Slrubenstein]] ===
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*'''delete''' [[User:CheeseDreams|CheeseDreams]] 22:25, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)
*Wiping the records of such tawdry events doesn't seem like a good idea to me. Let's '''keep''' them for reference in case of future problems. [[User:GeorgeStepanek|[[User:GeorgeStepanek|GeorgeStepanek]]\[[User_talk:GeorgeStepanek|<sup
* '''Keep''' as evidence - [[User:Rernst|rernst]] 02:07, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC)
* '''Keep'''. --[[User:Viriditas|Viriditas]] 03:33, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC)
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* '''Keep.''' This page has been introduced as evidence in an arbitration case against CheeseDreams. Deleting it would only deprive the community an opportunity to examine the evidence -- all arbitrators who are admins would still be able to view it. In the interests of honesty and openness, it must be preserved. [[User:Jwrosenzweig|Jwrosenzweig]] 21:09, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC)
*'''STRONG KEEP'''. It would be inappropriate to remove historical data like this. I will start keeping copies of such things on subpages of my user page and my personal wiki if these ever start being deleted. --[[User:Improv|Improv]] 22:24, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' as evidence. [[User:Andrevan|<b
*<s>'''STRONG KEEP'''. -- 01:46, Dec 10, 2004 (UTC)</s>
**Please sign your votes if you want them to count. --[[User:Improv|Improv]] 03:12, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)
*'''Keep'''. - [[User:Ta bu shi da yu|Ta bu shi da yu]] 03:08, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)
* '''Comment''': I notice that one of our RFCs got removed for Quadell. If you want it I can give you the link as I undeleted it and moved to my own pages as a subpage. I'm considering restoring it to the right ___location. - [[User:Ta bu shi da yu|Ta bu shi da yu]] 03:08, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)
**Please do. --[[User:Improv|Improv]] 03:12, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)
*'''Strong keep''' - Wikipedia decision making and related pages should never be deleted. I would also support removing the listings of other "Requests for comment" from VfD -- [[User:Chris 73|Chris 73]] [[User talk:Chris 73|Talk]] 03:34, Dec 10, 2004 (UTC)
*'''Keep,''' for heaven's sake. I suggest de-listing these from VfD. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] 03:48, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)
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*<s>'''Question''' - There is a clear conflict here between the explicit policy to delete, and the apparent (near) concensus to keep. I'm not familiar with the case, so please forgive my ignorance when I ask the obvious: "what is the value in keeping this despite the standard?" -- [[User:ClockworkSoul|Clockwork]][[User talk:ClockworkSoul|'''Soul''']] 21:56, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)</s>
** Nevermind - I made myself somewhat familiar with the case. On one hand, we have policy that specifies that such RfCs be deleted. On the other, there is some cause to keep these records (at the very minimum, as evidence in another case). Whatever your/our feelings about ''any'' user, whatever that user has done, it is wrong to ignore the policies that are in place so that we can maintain some level of order. Surely, nobody here would want any policies selectively applied to them? That being said: '''I propose that we temporarily delist these items from VfD, and open a vote to amend the current policy so that ''all'' such RfC's are archived regardless of their outcome.''' -- [[User:ClockworkSoul|Clockwork]][[User talk:ClockworkSoul|'''Soul''']] 22:14, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)
*Good point about policy. I volunteer to tak all of these RfCs into my user namespace. [[User:Cool Hand Luke|Cool Hand]] [[User talk:Cool Hand Luke|<span style="color:purple;">Luke</span>]] 00:24, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)
* Keep. IMO VfD is not the place for this discussion, but best now to just let this vote proceed and (hopefully) fail. [[User:Andrewa|Andrewa]] 16:23, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)
*'''Keep'''. This really should be archived and the 48-hour rule re Rfc pages should be revised. It is too important even if for no other reason than to show how things can get out of hand. [[User:Dieter Simon|Dieter Simon]] 19:52, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)
* '''Speedy delete'''. Prolonging this dispute is in violation of policy. --[[User:Eequor|[[User:Eequor|<span style="font-size:large;">ᓛᖁ</span>]]<span id="venus">[[Image:Venus symbol (blue).gif|♀]]</span>[{{SERVER}}{{localurl:User talk:Eequor}} <span style="font-size:large;">ᑐ</span>]]] 20:36, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)
* '''Keep'''. The policy should be changed. [[User:Jallan|Jallan]] 00:08, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC)
* '''Delete'''. The policy clearly states that failed RFC's will be deleted in 48 hours. That should have been done. Arguing that it should be kept as evidence is just silly. Since when is filing an RFC a punishable offense? Disagreeing with CheeseDreams is no reason to ignore policy. And a vfd is no place to re-write policy. [[User:Wolfman|Wolfman]] 19:18, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC)
* '''Keep.''' Don't we all notice the pattern? Even this VfD nomination is frivolous. ---[[User:Rednblu|Rednblu]] | [[User talk:Rednblu|Talk]] 06:46, 14 Dec 2004 (UTC)
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