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http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=39175 <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/68.95.141.46|68.95.141.46]] ([[User talk:68.95.141.46|talk]]) 10:15, 26 July 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:Is this an old issue which has since been corrected, or is it current? The material can be added to the article if it is cited in [[WP:reliable sources|reliable sources]] and is encyclopedic. <span style="white-space:nowrap;">-- [[User:Trevj#top|Trevj]]</span> ([[User talk:Trevj#top|talk]]) 13:45, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
:I believe this is the the same issue that resulted in the article being protected [[Talk:Raspberry_Pi/Archive_4#Article_is_now_under_pending_changes_protection|here]]. So far I don't think any reliable sources have been produced - it has so far been mostly POV pushing. '''<FONTspan COLORstyle="color:red;">Я</FONTspan>ehevkor''' <big>[[User talk:Rehevkor|<FONTspan COLORstyle="color:black;">✉</FONTspan>]]</big> 14:21, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
 
::There are some sources that cover this:
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Are you suggesting that a link to the organization's own forum where people actively working on the problems are discussing it is not reliable??? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/68.95.141.46|68.95.141.46]] ([[User talk:68.95.141.46|talk]]) 23:28, 26 July 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:Largely, no. See [[WP:SPS]]. Sources should be both reliably published and ideally independent of the subject. '''<FONTspan COLORstyle="color:red;">Я</FONTspan>ehevkor''' <big>[[User talk:Rehevkor|<FONTspan COLORstyle="color:black;">✉</FONTspan>]]</big> 19:22, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
 
:Let me check... Yup, I still have the ability to go on the official Raspberry Pi forum and claim that the Raspberry Pi is made out of actual raspberry pies, and then to make the same claim on Wikipedia using the official Raspberry Pi forum as a source. Do you see the problem? --[[User:Guy Macon|Guy Macon]] ([[User talk:Guy Macon|talk]]) 20:24, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
::mmmm raspberry <s>pi</s> pie -- <small><span class="nowrap" style="border:1px solid darkgreen;margin-top:1px;bottom:1px;font-verdana;background:lightblue" > [[User:Taroaldo|<fontspan colorstyle="color:black;">'''Taroaldo'''</fontspan>]] [[User talk:Taroaldo|<fontspan colorstyle="color:Red;">'''✉'''</fontspan>]]</span></small> 20:40, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
::Just licked mine and I can ''confirm'', they're made of raspberry pies. '''<FONTspan COLORstyle="color:red;">Я</FONTspan>ehevkor''' <big>[[User talk:Rehevkor|<FONTspan COLORstyle="color:black;">✉</FONTspan>]]</big> 20:59, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
 
If you bothered to read the thread I linked, you might notice it is 6 pages of posts from a large number of people in a locked thread. Several of the people work for the organization and this can be verified.
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[[Special:Contributions/80.187.109.172|80.187.109.172]] ([[User talk:80.187.109.172|talk]]) 00:52, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
 
:Do you have any reliable sources for this? Please be aware that Wikipedia articles are encyclopaedia articles and not technical manuals, material must be supported by reliable sources (published news articles for example, not forums). '''<FONTspan COLORstyle="color:red;">Я</FONTspan>ehevkor''' <big>[[User talk:Rehevkor|<FONTspan COLORstyle="color:black;">✉</FONTspan>]]</big> 13:16, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
 
::This is like saying that a desktop computer is "useless without the video BIOS provided by nVidea". Because that is what the "blob" is, it is the equivalent of the video BIOS. and other computers also cannot boot without the video BIOS contained in ROM on the video card. This isn't an issue as the blob is freely distributed with the PI, just as the video BIOS is freely distributed with the video card. Just as normal users do not care about the BIOS in their video cards, why should PI users care about this non-problem. You can remark about this technical difference, but not in the context of a "problem". [[User:Mahjongg|Mahjongg]] ([[User talk:Mahjongg|talk]]) 12:52, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
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Cheers.—[[User:Cyberbot II|<sup style="color:green;font-family:Courier;">cyberbot II</sup>]]<small><sub style="margin-left:-14.9ex;color:green;font-family:Comic Sans MS;">[[User talk:Cyberbot II|<span style="color:green;">Talk to my owner</span>]]:Online</sub></small> 08:48, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
 
== Manufacture ___location(s)? ==
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Good news - 19 a good quality photos under CC license was uploaded to [[c:Category:Raspberry_Pi_3_Model_B%2B]]. --[[User:Jasc PL|Jasc PL]] ([[User talk:Jasc PL|talk]]) 02:09, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
 
== infobox name ==
 
I noticed that the infobox name is '''"Raspberry Pi 3 Model B+ (latest version)"''' - this is incorrect, as the article is '''"Raspberry Pi"''' and the infobox title should reflect this. I went into the article to change it, and see the following:
 
<nowiki>|name = Raspberry Pi&nbsp;3 Model&nbsp;B+ (latest version) <!-- Please don't rename --></nowiki>
 
What rationale is there for there to be an insistence on "Please don't rename"? Having the title as "Raspberry Pi 3 Model B+ (latest version)" is a bad thing - the B+ doesn't even have a section within the article, yet we announce it at the top.
 
The model history is covered in the Overview section - it's not the job of the infobox to list the latest model available. [[User:Chaheel Riens|Chaheel Riens]] ([[User talk:Chaheel Riens|talk]]) 13:38, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
: Agreed. The image caption should be model specific, the infobox title shouldn't. [[User:Andy Dingley|Andy Dingley]] ([[User talk:Andy Dingley|talk]]) 14:04, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
::Thanks for the second opinion. I've been bold and changed it. [[User:Chaheel Riens|Chaheel Riens]] ([[User talk:Chaheel Riens|talk]]) 16:59, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
 
== Raspberry pi zero ==
 
Date in paragraph is 2019. A future date in the context does not seem correct. I do not know the correct date. [[User:Simonthecarpenter|Simonthecarpenter]] ([[User talk:Simonthecarpenter|talk]]) 22:46, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
 
:{{ping|Simonthecarpenter}} I have reverted a recent unconstructive edit to fix the problem, thank you for pointing this out. [[User:GermanJoe|GermanJoe]] ([[User talk:GermanJoe|talk]]) 23:18, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
 
== Second paragraph cleanup ==
 
Does the article actually benefit from having ''that'' many figures of n-boards-sold-by-month-M? I can understand an important milestone or two in addition to one recent figure, but 5 in total seems a bit much. [[User:BZRatfink|BZRatfink]] ([[User talk:BZRatfink|talk]]) 02:10, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
 
:Agree, both the amount of detail and its placement as a prominent lead paragraph are undue weight. Several of these numbers are also only based on the organization's information from press releases and interviews, and do not represent significant lead-worthy milestones (which should be established by in-depth coverage in truely independent non-PR publications). [[User:GermanJoe|GermanJoe]] ([[User talk:GermanJoe|talk]]) 02:47, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
 
== REQ: punc fix, cap fix ==
 
Could an established editor please fix the punctuation and capitalization errors (especially in the introductory section)?<!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/108.68.84.198|108.68.84.198]] ([[User talk:108.68.84.198#top|talk]]) 16:27, 5 July 2013 (UTC)</small>
 
== Raspberry Pi Model A+ ==
 
* http://www.raspberrypi.org/raspberry-pi-model-a-plus-on-sale/
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