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The result of the debate was {{{1|}}} '''keep'''. --[[User:ais523|ais523]] 09:31, 16 November 2006 ([[User:ais523|U]][[User talk:ais523|T]][[Special:Contributions/Ais523|C]])
==== [[Template:Zelda weapons and items]] ====
: {{lt|Zelda weapons and items}}
Redundent. Almost all items are already listed on [[Weapons and items from The Legend of Zelda series]]. Any item that has its own page is already linked to from the [[Weapons and items from The Legend of Zelda series|items]] page. -- [[User:Jelly Soup|Jelly Soup]] 20:42, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Strong keep'''. The whole entire purpose of ''having'' navigational templates is to make it easier for readers to navigate through pages ''without'' having to go back and look through long lists for the link they want. For example, the {{tl|EMD diesels}} template was created to avoid having to look through [[List of GM-EMD locomotives]] and the {{tl|Regions of the world}} template was created to avoid having to look through the [[Subregion]] article.--'''[[User:TBC|<
**'''Comment'''. {{tl|EMD diesels}} links to several different ''pages'' of information on the subject. All the information in this items template is found on one single page. Now, if every item on said page was added to the template and linked to it's section...--[[User:Jelly Soup|Jelly Soup]] 22:22, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
***'''Comment'''. That's incorrect; [[Master Sword]], [[Rupee (The Legend of Zelda series)]], [[Triforce]], and [[Gossip Stone]] all have seperate articles.--'''[[User:TBC|<
****'''Comment'''. No, I was right. I said the page links off to these articles. Why have a template that does the same thing? -- [[User:Jelly Soup|Jelly Soup]] 03:41, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Keep'''. I think some of the Zelda templates could be combined, but let [[WP:ZELDA]] deal with it. Nothing annoys me more than deletions of WikiProject-maintained categories and templates. --- [[User:RockMFR|RockMFR]] 22:06, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
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******'''Reply'''. I see your point and I conced. Maybe if links are added to each section for the rest of the items, the template will become more useful. -- [[User:Jelly Soup|Jelly Soup]] 04:56, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' Template is legitimate; useful, per above. [[User:Hello32020|Hello32020]] 20:13, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' it's iffy if all those articles should exist, but until they're gone the template is warranted [[User:The Bread|<
*'''Strong Keep'''. Useful. ~ '''[[User:Flameviper|<span style="color:#CC0000;">Flame</span>]][[User talk:Flameviper|<span style="color:#009900;">vip</span>]][[User:Flameviper/Esperanza|<span style="color:#00CC00;">e</span>]][[User talk:Flameviper|<span style="color:#009900;">r</span>]]''' 18:15, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
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==== [[Template:Universe Daily]] ====
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The result of the debate was {{{1|}}} '''Delete''' <strong>[[User:Martinp23|M]][[User:Martinp23/Esperanza|<span style="color:green;">a</span>]][[User_talk:Martinp23|rtinp23]]</strong> 12:45, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
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This template is redundant with {{[[Template:blockedsockpuppet|blockedsockpuppet]]|Universe Daily}}. It was orphaned and deprecated, but restored by [[User:SunStar Net|SunStar Net]]. —[<small>[[WP:ADMIN|admin]]</small>] [[User talk:Pathoschild/s|Pathoschild]] <small>18:21, 10 November 2006 (UTC)</small>
*<s>'''Keep'''</s>. This was [[Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log/2006 September 23|nominated for TFD]] a month ago and failed. What has changed since then? [[User:Neil916|Neil916]] ([[User Talk:Neil916|Talk]]) 18:32, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
*: That group nomination resulted in no consensus because some users felt that a few of the templates (such as {{tl|Bogdablock}}) were still useful; this template was not one of those cited as such. —[<small>[[WP:ADMIN|admin]]</small>] [[User talk:Pathoschild/s|Pathoschild]] <small>00:34, 11 November 2006 (UTC)</small>
**Change to '''delete'''. My opposition to deletion was related to the fact that it just went through TFD shortly before, but the template is redundant to existing templates that do the job just as well. [[User:Neil916|Neil916]] ([[User Talk:Neil916|Talk]]) 16:38, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' and replace usages with cited redundant template per above. -- [[User:Renesis13|Renesis]] ([[User talk:Renesis13|talk]]) 00:42, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' per above and [[WP:DENY]]. -- [[User:Omicronpersei8|Omicronpersei8]] ([[User talk:Omicronpersei8|talk]]) 05:12, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' per nom and above. -<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">^</span>[[User:^demon|<span style="color:black;font-weight:bold;">demon</span>]]<sup>[[User_talk:^demon|<span style="color:red">[yell at me]</span>]]</sup> <em style="font-size:10px;">19:37, 14 November 2006 (UTC)</em>
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==== [[Template:PhicsamationOfficers]] ====
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The result of the debate was {{{1|}}} '''Delete''' <strong>[[User:Martinp23|M]][[User:Martinp23/Esperanza|<span style="color:green;">a</span>]][[User_talk:Martinp23|rtinp23]]</strong> 12:52, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
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Formerly used for a summary of a single image, no longer used. --- [[User:RockMFR|RockMFR]] 18:03, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Delete'''. Not needed and a bad idea to begin with. [[User:Neil916|Neil916]] ([[User Talk:Neil916|Talk]]) 18:35, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Delete'''. [[User:Titanium Dragon|Titanium Dragon]] 08:15, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
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==== [[Template:PhicsamationTeamBuilding]] ====
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The result of the debate was {{{1|}}} '''Delete''' <strong>[[User:Martinp23|M]][[User:Martinp23/Esperanza|<span style="color:green;">a</span>]][[User_talk:Martinp23|rtinp23]]</strong> 12:55, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
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*'''Delete'''. Not needed and a bad idea to begin with. [[User:Neil916|Neil916]] ([[User Talk:Neil916|Talk]]) 18:36, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Delete'''. As per Neil's explanation. [[User:Titanium Dragon|Titanium Dragon]] 08:15, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
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==== [[Template:Common-target]] ====
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The result of the debate was {{{1|}}} '''Delete''' <strong>[[User:Martinp23|M]][[User:Martinp23/Esperanza|<span style="color:green;">a</span>]][[User_talk:Martinp23|rtinp23]]</strong> 12:58, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
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I understand the intentions of the creator of this template, but I fear this will do more harm then good. This template has the potential of inviting editors to vandalize (a lá "[[Wikipedia:Don't stuff beans up your nose|Don't stuff beans up your nose]]"), rather than simply call to attention the need to watch for vandalism. Additionally, I doubt many vandals would actually follow the instructions outlined on the template, take a look at the policies that are linked, and then decide not to vandalize. -- '''[[User:Tariqabjotu|<
*'''Delete'''. Awful template, no good can come of its use. --- [[User:RockMFR|RockMFR]] 17:55, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Delete'''. At [[Bill Gates]] I added a comment "Whatever you're thinking of doing to the article, it isn't half as funny as you think" and vandalism instantly shot up. This template will be similarly counterproductive. [[User:Gazpacho|Gazpacho]] 18:35, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' allows vandals to point score. [[User:Addhoc|Addhoc]] 13:45, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Keep'''. I've found it to be highly useful, especially since the wiki admins refused to do much about vandalism to an article I was working on. At least it makes the reader aware that what they are reading may not be what the editors intended to be on the page. [[User:Jeffpw|Jeffpw]] 17:54, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Keep'''. I think this is a good template that people can use to notice vandalism easier. I don't think it will attract vandalism. It should work the same as 'biographies of living persons template'. That way, since something like Homosexuality or Republicans do not count as a biography, they get the same protection. [[User:Dark jedi requiem|<span style="color:#0000ff;">Dark j</span>]][[User:Dark jedi requiem/Esperanza|<span style="color:#00FF00;">e</span>]][[User_talk:Dark jedi requiem|<span style="color:#000080;">di requiem</span>]] 20:53, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' very bad idea, obvious vandal magnet. Only in use on one article and two talk pages; it won't be missed. [[User:Xtifr|Xtifr]] <sub>[[User talk:Xtifr|tälk]]</sub> 13:33, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Delete''', [[WP:DENY]]. ([[User_talk:Radiant!|<span style="color:orange;">Radiant</span>]]) 15:38, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
* '''Keep''' useful tool to alert non admin editors of articles that need vigilance against vandalism. [[User:Ramsquire|Ramsquire]] <sup>[[User talk:Ramsquire|(throw me a line)]]</sup> 17:44, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Delete''', If you tell a robber to put down his bag of stolen cash will he do so?--[[User:Seadog.M.S|<span style="font-family:Vivaldi;color:darkblue;font-size:large;">Seadog</span>]] 18:54, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Comment'''I never took the template to be a warning against vandals, they will vandalize in any case. But it is a help to non admin editors like me who come across probably 50 articles in a day, not knowing which ones are heavily vandalized. With this template, I'd know that I should scrutinize the recent changes to the article and be more aware of possible vandals. [[User:Ramsquire|Ramsquire]] <sup>[[User talk:Ramsquire|(throw me a line)]]</sup> 19:00, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Delete''', we don't need templates for everything. You can have a look at the article history to see whether the article gets vandalized alot. --[[User:ContiE|Conti]]|[[User talk:ContiE|✉]] 23:43, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
**Why would anyone looking through Wikipedia look through the page history unless prompted? Speaking for myself, I read through articles to check for sources and accuracy first and foremost. A trip through the page history wouldn't occur unless alerted to edit warring or vandalism. The second of which this template does. I understand consensus seems to be against keeping this template and that's fine with me. But perhaps we should look for a more agreeable alternative at some point. [[User:Ramsquire|Ramsquire]] <sup>[[User talk:Ramsquire|(throw me a line)]]</sup> 23:53, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
***Well, I don't understand why you want or need this information in the first place. Sure, it's slightly useful to know, but permanently putting a template on an article just isn't worth it. --[[User:ContiE|Conti]]|[[User talk:ContiE|✉]] 00:06, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' [[User:John254|John254]] 02:46, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Delete'''. Don't stuff beans up your nose. [[User:Titanium Dragon|Titanium Dragon]] 08:13, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' I see the use for this and have recently added it to the [[waste]] article talk page.[[User:Vortexrealm|Alex]] 12:19, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Delete''', while acknowledging good intentions. One problem is that the template is static, while vandalism is not. If an article is "currently" a vandalism target, [[WP:RFP]] should be used instead of this template. If an article is not "currently" a vandalism target, the presence of this template in the article would be inaccurate or misleading. [[User:Accurizer|Accurizer]] 14:51, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
**I disagree, Accurizer. The page Protection request is only as good as the admin who is working on that when you make the request. The article I use this template on was denied page protection while it was vandalised multiple times a day by people pushing their point of view. This was the only solution I could come up with, and it was very helpful. I urge the '''KEEP''' of this template. [[User:Jeffpw|Jeffpw]] 17:40, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' as per [[WP:DENY]]. -[[User:Ryanbomber|Ryanbomber]] 01:58, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Delete'''. Don't stuff beans up your nose or tack disclaimer templates on perfectly good articles. Keep it on the talk page. [[User:Dekimasu|Dekimasu]] 03:00, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
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==== [[Template:EMAP]] ====
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The result of the debate was {{{1|}}} '''No consensus''' <strong>[[User:Martinp23|M]][[User:Martinp23/Esperanza|<span style="color:green;">a</span>]][[User_talk:Martinp23|rtinp23]]</strong> 13:06, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
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Promotional company advert and excessively long template that reproduces the company promotional material already present in Category:EMAP <nowiki>[[Category:EMAP]]</nowiki> → [[User:Friedfish|friedfish]] 08:12, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
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*'''Delete''' The stations and other things listed are so far flung from each other that they do not really aid in navigation. At this point, the navbax is so big that it detracts from navigation rather than aids it. Seriously, what relation does televsion have to radio? If I'm looking at a radio station would I naturally go to a television article? Not really. I wouldn't mind if it was split into radio/television or something like now, but the template as it is now is ginormous, unwiedly, and cumbersome. [[User:Hbdragon88|Hbdragon88]] 23:40, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' per Pit-yacker. A category does not seem to be a suitable replacement for a navigational template in this instance. -- [[User:Renesis13|Renesis]] ([[User talk:Renesis13|talk]]) 00:46, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' per Pit-yacker. While it may not be well designed, that just means it should be redesigned and improved. If everything that was not perfect was deleted before it had a chance to mature, then wikipedia would be the a single page saved on Jimbo's desktop. [[User:MrWeeble|<span style="color:#008040;">Mr</span><span style="color:#007FBF;font-weight:bold">Weeble</span>]] <small>[[User talk:MrWeeble|Talk]] [[Wikipedia:WikiProject British TV channels|Brit tv]]</small> 00:05, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
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==== [[Template:PhicsamationLogo]] ====
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The result of the debate was {{{1|}}} '''Delete''' <strong>[[User:Martinp23|M]][[User:Martinp23/Esperanza|<span style="color:green;">a</span>]][[User_talk:Martinp23|rtinp23]]</strong> 12:55, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
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Formerly used for a summary of a single image, no longer used. --- [[User:RockMFR|RockMFR]] 07:38, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Delete'''. Not needed and a bad idea to begin with. [[User:Neil916|Neil916]] ([[User Talk:Neil916|Talk]]) 18:36, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Delete'''. Seems pretty pointless. Who made these to start with? [[User:Titanium Dragon|Titanium Dragon]] 08:16, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was {{{1|}}} '''Delete''' <strong>[[User:Martinp23|M]][[User:Martinp23/Esperanza|<span style="color:green;">a</span>]][[User_talk:Martinp23|rtinp23]]</strong> 12:55, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
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*'''Delete'''. Not needed and a bad idea to begin with. [[User:Neil916|Neil916]] ([[User Talk:Neil916|Talk]]) 18:36, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' Useless template. [[User:Hello32020|Hello32020]] 20:14, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' gotta go [[User:The Bread|<
*'''Delete'''. Why does thhis even exist? [[User:Titanium Dragon|Titanium Dragon]] 08:16, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
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