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==== [[Best of Wikipedia vandalism]] ====

{{closed|Consensus here has pretty clearly been derived already, I see no more reason for this discussion to continue.--<span style="color:blue;font-weight:bold;font-size:medium;font-family: Monotype Corsiva;">[[User:Cometstyles|Comet]][[User talk:Cometstyles|styles]]</span> 19:29, 6 January 2008 (UTC)}}

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*'''Delete'''--[[User:Nick1915|Nick1915]] -^{<small> [[User_talk:Nick1915|all you want]]</small>} 18:33, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

====[[SeductionWiki.css]]====

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If someone had not made an edit to this articles talk page, I wouldn't have seen it. This is basically one of those skins used in the [[Gallery of user styles#SeductionWiki|Gallery of user styles]] which is linked to a wiki which "no longer" exists so its no longer useful on meta and I'm also tagging pic of a screen-shot of that wiki in the images section :) ..--<span style="color:blue;font-weight:bold;font-size:medium;font-family: Monotype Corsiva;">[[User:Cometstyles|Comet]][[User talk:Cometstyles|styles]]</span> 20:31, 12 January 2008 (UTC)t

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*<s>'''Weak keep''' - Even without the wiki in use, as far as I can see it could still potentially be used. If a satisfactory response to Adambro is brought forward I might reconsider... [[User:Giggy|Giggy]]\^{[[User talk:Giggy|Talk]]} 04:33, 19 January 2008 (UTC)</s> (abstain)

*:I humbly suggest that it just may no longer be of any use, because it has no wiki or project any lkonger associated with wikimedia. --<strong>[[user:Anonymous Dissident|<font face="Script MT Bold"><font color="DodgerBlue">Anonymous Dissident</font></font>]]</strong>[[user talk:Anonymous Dissident|^{<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:Gray">Talk</span>}]] 10:15, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

*::Has SeductionWiki ever had any association with Wikimedia, beyond using the MediaWiki software? There seeems to be a number of other styles listed which don't have live working examples. [[User:Adambro|Adambro]] 14:26, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

*:::Well, we can argue semantics, but the above correction fails to assert why this should be kept and why it is any longer appropriate here on Meta. --<strong>[[user:Anonymous Dissident|<font face="Script MT Bold"><font color="DodgerBlue">Anonymous Dissident</font></font>]]</strong>[[user talk:Anonymous Dissident|^{<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:Gray">Talk</span>}]] 08:34, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

*::Meta is not a repository of Images/skins and if the wiki no longer exist, I don't see a reason to keep the skin associated with it and there is no way of knowing if it works as well, plus if you see [[Gallery of user styles]], you will realise that most if not all skins are linked externally and not on the wiki for download and personal apart from this one which is linked to a now defunct wiki and as per nom, it is no longer important or useful to this Project or any other project associated to Wikimedia...--<span style="color:blue;font-weight:bold;font-size:medium;font-family: Monotype Corsiva;">[[User:Cometstyles|Comet]][[User talk:Cometstyles|styles]]</span> 10:53, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

*<s>'''Keep''' per my two comments. [[User:Adambro|Adambro]] 14:26, 19 January 2008 (UTC)</s> '''Delete''' [[User:Adambro|Adambro]] 05:57, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

* '''Delete''' - not needed.--[[User:Poetlister|<font color="green">Poetlister</font>]] 13:11, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

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'''deleted per consensus'''--[[User:Nick1915|Nick1915]] -^{<small> [[User_talk:Nick1915|all you want]]</small>} 00:07, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

=== =[[Minatama disease]] ====

{{closed|Page does not exist and has not existed on Meta.}}

* I am the creator. There is already a very good page on [[Minamata disease]]; I mistakenly searched for "Minatama disease" and didn't find it, so created a small stub page. Soon I realized my mistake. Sorry! [[Special:Contributions/96.224.176.206|96.224.176.206]] 01:27, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

**You may be confused: both articles are not on this project. Perhaps you may think you are on English Wikipedia? --[[User:Aphaia|Aphaia]] 05:30, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

====[[Wikidharma]], [[Diamond]], [[Zen guide]], [[Assume nothing]], [[The Zen of Wikipedia]], [[Heart]], [[Don't be a crybaby]]====

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A bunch of rambling personal essays on Wikipedia policy that seem irrelevant to Meta. Many of them seem to actually be copy-and-pasted from en.Wikipedia without even fulfilling the GFDL. [[User:Dmcdevit|Dmcdevit]] 11:52, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

:{{Comment}} I already wondered what stuff that is... But if they are essays copied from enwp one could easily import the history, right? Maybe they should rather be deleted on enwp and stored on Meta? --[[User:Thogo|Thogo]] <small>([[User talk:Thogo|talk]])</small> 11:55, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

:I just noticed that this user was recently banned on Wikipedia, which would explain him moving everything here. I don't really see anything valuable in them. It just looks like more clutter to me, and someone had way too much time on their hands and decided to write essays instead of contributing content to a project. [[User:Dmcdevit|Dmcdevit]] 12:00, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

:{{comment}} Without giving any opinion on the whole set of pages, nor on the user, I think pages such as [[Zen guide]] belong to meta, or at least used to belong there (though maybe not in the main namespace). There is a lot of such (humorous) essays in [[:Category:Essays]], which now states "Meta-Wiki started out as a place where many people described their thoughts about Wikipedia and other topics. [...] As of 2006, there is some disagreement about whether new essays, particularly personal essays, should be added to Meta anywhere but in user space." [[user:guillom|guillom]] 12:12, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Dmcdevit, I'd appreciate it if you could've brought your concerns to me directly. Also, I've been blocked for a week, not banned. You also may be interested to take a look at the diff used as an example of "trolling." [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jimbo_Wales&diff=190817503&oldid=190801465]

I came here because I thought there was a bit more openness and intellectual freedom here, and a bit more tolerance for people with a [[w:deletionism|deletionist]] philosophy. I think that there are substantial problems with Wikipedia (see my contributions to [[w:WP:FAIL|WP:FAIL]]) and actually trying to edit Wikipedia has been fairly frustrating and literally "impossible" in the full sense of the word. I'm continually accused of bad faith and so on, and diligent attempts at clarifying that's not the case always fail. So, in order to avoid being perma-banned, I'm currently on a "vow of silence" with the Wikipedia community, for my own account's sake, as they don't seem to follow anything I say and I'd have to actually give up the whole idea of "improving Wikipedia" in order to maintain any kind of sanity.

My only goal now is to:

*Finish a collection of essays on policy and Wikipedia philosophy (there's tons of such essays all across meta)

*Contribute to [[w:Veropedia|Veropedia]] when I get back from the block.

Please, at least let me do that.

Calling them "a bunch of rambling personal essays" is insulting. They're copied from Wikipedia, but ''I wrote them.'' They are mine legally, so I can release them under the GFDL to Wikipedia, then release them under the GFDL to Meta, then release them to whoever else I want under whatever license I want.

I don't have a problem with deleting them from enwp if you want or importing the edit history, or what-have-you. [[User:Zenwhat|Zenwhat]] 12:11, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' - Meta is a great place for essays and I have also tagged essays before which looked really stupid and well these are examples of those, I should have deleted the first one he created when he was blocked on enwiki but it seems all his essays are just Personal attacks on people on wikipedia and its founder and thats why I believe these essays are not suited for Meta...--<span style="color:blue;font-weight:bold;font-size:medium;font-family: Monotype Corsiva;">[[User:Cometstyles|Comet]][[User talk:Cometstyles|styles]]</span> 12:19, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

*Having read through most of these pages I agree with Dmcdevit that these pages are not worth keeping. They aren't funny nor useful. --> Delete. --[[User:Thogo|Thogo]] <small>([[User talk:Thogo|talk]])</small> 12:27, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Forget it. I'm deleting them myself. [[User:Kim Bruning]] has offered to give me webpspace. I'll publish them there.

I mean, frankly, this is ridiculous. How are you going to call [[Assume nothing]] a "personal essay"? [[User:Zenwhat|Zenwhat]] 12:33, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

:Deleted them all per user request. Enough of this. '''[[User:Majorly|<span style="color:#002bb8">Majorly</span>]]''' (''[[User talk:Majorly|talk]]'') 12:57, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

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====[[I think I'll be an antigenderist]] and [[Ethics or Morals]]====

{{closed|1=Deleted. ----<strong>[[user:Anonymous Dissident|<font face="Script MT Bold"><font color="DodgerBlue">Anonymous Dissident</font></font>]]</strong>[[user talk:Anonymous Dissident|^{<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:Gray">Talk</span>}]] 06:07, 25 February 2008 (UTC)|text=

Essays that have nothing to do with Wikipedia, Wikimedia, or any Wikimedia project.--[[User:Shanel|Shanel]] 05:44, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' both, per nom. --[[User:Aphaia|Aphaia]] 07:01, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

*delete. --<strong>[[user:Anonymous Dissident|<font face="Script MT Bold"><font color="DodgerBlue">Anonymous Dissident</font></font>]]</strong>[[user talk:Anonymous Dissident|^{<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:Gray">Talk</span>}]] 07:41, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

* Delete both per nom. --[[User:Thogo|Thogo]] <small>([[User talk:Thogo|talk]])</small> 08:01, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

* Delete both per nom. ----<span style="color:blue;font-weight:bold;font-size:medium;font-family: Monotype Corsiva;">[[User:Cometstyles|Comet]][[User talk:Cometstyles|styles]]</span> 09:42, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' both per nom. [[User:Adambro|Adambro]] 18:44, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' I usually prefer to write up something specific about why I think something should be deleted, but I'll be damned if Shanel didn't sum it up quite succinctly. :) [[User:EVula|EVula]] <span style="color: #999;">// [[User talk:EVula|talk]] // [[User:EVula/admin|<span style="color: #366;">&#9775;</span>]] //</span> 20:19, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' - Definitely nothing related to Wikimedia. Shanel said it perfectly. [[User:Keilana|Keilana]]<nowiki>|</nowiki>^{[[User talk:Keilana|Parlez ici]]} 21:09, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete All''' per nom. [[User:Nakon|<font color="#CC5500">'''Nakon'''</font>]] 21:40, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete both''' - I can't see how they're related to wikipedia. <i><b>[[User:Snowolf|<font color = "darkmagenta">Snowolf</font>]] ^{<small>[[User talk:Snowolf|<font color = "darkmagenta">How can I help?</font>]]</small>}</b></i> 11:28, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

*'''Keep.''' [[Ethics or Morals]] has been kept there for 5 years and edited by several users. Nobody here has notified any of the authors that edited either articles. Articles on philosophy, specifically, are relevant to Wikipedia because all policy is ''based'' on philosophy, no? [[User:Zenwhat|Zenwhat]] 15:44, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

**If the philosophy actually alluded to Wikimedia, then it would be relevant. Also, The content of [[Ethics or Morals]] was only edited by one user (Manning Bartlett). <font face="georgia"><span style="background:#E0FFFF;color:#007FFF">[[User:Nishkid64|Nishkid64]] ([[User talk:Nishkid64|talk]])</span></font> 18:14, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' per not being relevant to Wikimedia in particular. [[User:Giggy|Giggy]]\^{[[User talk:Giggy|Talk]]} 10:27, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' both, per nom. [[User:Huji|Huji]] 22:14, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' per nom.--[[User:Poetlister|<font color="green">Poetlister</font>]] 09:15, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

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====[[Google searches that Wikimedia pages rank first on]]====

{{closed|1=Deleted. ----<strong>[[user:Anonymous Dissident|<font face="Script MT Bold"><font color="DodgerBlue">Anonymous Dissident</font></font>]]</strong>[[user talk:Anonymous Dissident|^{<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:Gray">Talk</span>}]] 07:44, 26 February 2008 (UTC)|text=

This page is not being used for anything in particular, as far as I can see, and, given the number of Wikimedia projects, is likely impossible to maintain. In fact, the last time it was updated was all the way in July last year. I can't imagine these will be first page for everyone that searches for these terms, or that they will always be (The article for [http://www.google.com/search?q=Anatoli+Yevgenyevich+Karpov Anatoli Yevgenyevich Karpov] is the 3rd result for me. There is not even an article for "fart lighting," as it should be).--[[User:Shanel|Shanel]] 05:26, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''', unlikely to ever be maintained or to be accurate. [[User:Nakon|<font color="#CC5500">'''Nakon'''</font>]] 05:29, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' - not needed. --<strong>[[user:Anonymous Dissident|<font face="Script MT Bold"><font color="DodgerBlue">Anonymous Dissident</font></font>]]</strong>[[user talk:Anonymous Dissident|^{<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:Gray">Talk</span>}]] 07:59, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

*Delete, per Nakon. --[[User:Thogo|Thogo]] <small>([[User talk:Thogo|talk]])</small> 08:02, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete'''--<span style="color:blue;font-weight:bold;font-size:medium;font-family: Monotype Corsiva;">[[User:Cometstyles|Comet]][[User talk:Cometstyles|styles]]</span> 09:43, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' pretty pointless. [[User:Adambro|Adambro]] 18:45, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' Waaaaaaaay too wide open, and extremely fluid. We could be updating this all the time, and for absolutely no real benefit to the project(s). [[User:EVula|EVula]] <span style="color: #999;">// [[User talk:EVula|talk]] // [[User:EVula/admin|<span style="color: #366;">&#9775;</span>]] //</span> 20:16, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' - Would take a lot of manpower to update regularly, at little benefit to the project. Serves no purpose. [[User:Keilana|Keilana]]<nowiki>|</nowiki>^{[[User talk:Keilana|Parlez ici]]} 21:10, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' - unmaintanable. <i><b>[[User:Snowolf|<font color = "darkmagenta">Snowolf</font>]] ^{<small>[[User talk:Snowolf|<font color = "darkmagenta">How can I help?</font>]]</small>}</b></i> 11:29, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' - Inaccurate, incomplete, and of course hard to maintain. [[User:Huji|Huji]] 22:13, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' Google ranks change frequently.--[[User:Poetlister|<font color="green">Poetlister</font>]] 09:17, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

* '''Delete''' - Unmaintainable. <font face="Lucida Calligraphy"><b>[[User:Greeves|Greeves]]</b></font> ^{([[User talk:Greeves|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Greeves|contribs]])} 19:37, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

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====[[Legitimate criticism]]====

{{closed|1=Deleted — {{User:VasilievVV/Sign}} 18:22, 26 February 2008 (UTC)|text=

The author had pages nominated above that were speedily deleted. I am strongly tempted to delete this however I would prefer to have the community's views. Personally I do not see such a page as appropriate for Meta although I appreciate it is a personal essay. Thanks --[[User:Herbythyme|<font color="green">Herby</font>]] <b>^{<small><span style="color:#90F">[[User talk:Herbythyme|talk thyme]]</span></small>}</b> 15:51, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete'''. A now blanked comment at most, that may have been needed at articles like [[m:w:en:Criticism of Wikipedia]] long ago. -- [[User:Jeandré du Toit|Jeandré]], 2008-02-13[[User talk:Jeandré du Toit|t]]17:43z

*'''Delete with final warning to the editor in question''' - a couple of those claims is either baseless or rumours created by those "BADSITES" whose only ulterior motive is to bring down the Foundation,..sorry, as mentioned above, we would love to have excellent essays on Meta but that doesn't mean we will allow such 'attacks' on the foundation and its faithful editors...--<span style="color:blue;font-weight:bold;font-size:medium;font-family: Monotype Corsiva;">[[User:Cometstyles|Comet]][[User talk:Cometstyles|styles]]</span> 23:05, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

*'''Keep.''' Oh, now come on. :D [[User:Zenwhat|Zenwhat]] 15:45, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' Just after one day several similar submissions were speedied per '''author's request''' with saying they would be hosted on another website, this page was submitted with a mention to a particular username. Very trollish and hardly to mix with meta purpose to build Wikimedia user community. --[[User:Aphaia|Aphaia]] 00:57, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' - can't see how this aids community building or the coordination of Wikimedia projects. Seems to just be an excuse to list the more outrageous accusations that trolls have come up with. <span style="font-family: Verdana">[[User:WJBscribe|'''WjB'''scribe]]</span> 02:41, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' - [[w:WP:FAIL]] should take this. [[User:Giggy|Giggy]]\^{[[User talk:Giggy|Talk]]} 10:28, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' - no real value and not appropriate here. --[[User:AndrewCates|AndrewCates]] 17:49, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' - Thinly disguised, I must say. [[User:Nousernamesleft|Nousernamesleft]]<span style="color:red"><small>^{[[User talk:Nousernamesleft|copper]], not [[meta:User:Nousernamesleft/matrix|wood]]}</small></span> 21:49, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' - Not appropriate nor useful. [[User:Keilana|Keilana]]<nowiki>|</nowiki>^{[[User talk:Keilana|Parlez ici]]} 00:53, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

* '''Delete'''. I agree with all above. [[user:Alexanderps|Alex Pereira]] ^{[[user talk:Alexanderps|falaê]]} 17:46, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' as it is trollish, and probably doesn't reflect the view of several users (which an ''essay'' should do, by definition). [[User:Huji|Huji]] 22:11, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' per Herby.--[[User:Poetlister|<font color="green">Poetlister</font>]] 13:08, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

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==== [[Countries of the world tables/Español]] ====

{{closed|1=Deleted, other language fork of a page we've agreed to delete; not needed. [[User:Jdforrester|James F.]] [[User talk:Jdforrester|(talk)]] 18:54, 15 April 2008 (UTC)|text=

Spanish version of the page [[Countries of the world tables]], which was deleted after this [[Meta:Requests for deletion/Archives/2007/01#Countries of the world tables|RfD]]. [[User:Korg|Korg]] 18:20, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

* I've speedy-deleted this, as we've already had the discussion (about the English language version of the page). [[User:Jdforrester|James F.]] [[User talk:Jdforrester|(talk)]] 18:53, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

** Thank you. [[User:Korg|Korg]] 20:53, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

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====[[Ban coordination]]====

{{closed|1='''deleted''' per consensus. --[[User:Thogo|Thogo]] <small>([[User talk:Thogo|talk]])</small> 08:37, 30 May 2008 (UTC)|text=

This page is used for more than one year mainly for harassment of my person. My enemies constantly insert their POV and my POV is removed: breach of ''audiatur et altera pars''. <span style = "font-family: Script MT Bold">—[[User:Zacheus|Zacheus]] ^{[[User_Talk:Zacheus|Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Zacheus|Contributions]] • [http://tools.wikimedia.de/~interiot/cgi-bin/Tool1/wannabe_kate?username=Zacheus&site=en.wikipedia.org Edit counter]}</span> 20:34, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

*'''delete''' useless page, we have [[Vandalism reports]] and Drinis subpages for spambots for real cross-wiki vandalism. This, my opinion, has nothing to do with the personal war of users who recently editwared there in any way. thanks, --[[User:Spacebirdy|birdy <small>geimfyglið</small>]] [[User_talk:Spacebirdy|_(:>&nbsp;)=|]] [[commons:User:Spacebirdy/Myndir|<small>∇</small>]] 20:43, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' useless page, bans should be "co-ordinated" on their own projects. '''[[User:Majorly|<span style="font-family:verdana; color:#B05427">Majorly</span>]]''' ^{''[[User talk:Majorly|<span style="color:black">talk</span>]]''} 21:32, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

*'''delete''' utterly useless--[[User:Mardetanha|<font face="Rage Italic" size="4" style="color:#000000;color:black"><i>Mardetanha</i></font>]] ^{<span style="font-family:Italic;color:black">[[user_talk:Mardetanha|talk]]</span>} 21:35, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

*'''delete''' - not a well written proposal, not good enough for Meta ...--<span style="color:blue;font-weight:bold;font-size:medium;font-family: Monotype Corsiva;">[[User:Cometstyles|Comet]][[User talk:Cometstyles|styles]]</span> 23:21, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' - as nom. ----<strong>[[user:Anonymous Dissident|<font face="Script MT Bold"><font color="DodgerBlue">Anonymous Dissident</font></font>]]</strong>[[user talk:Anonymous Dissident|^{<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:Gray">Talk</span>}]] 06:38, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' per Majorly & birdy --[[User:Herbythyme|<font color="green">Herby</font>]] <b>^{<small><span style="color:#90F">[[User talk:Herbythyme|talk thyme]]</span></small>}</b> 06:48, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' as promoting a poor outlook on banning. No thanks. ''[[user:giggy|giggy]]'' _{([[user talk:giggy|:O]])} 06:51, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

*'''delete''' per [[User:Spacebirdy|birdy]]. The page is not used. --[[User:Egg|Egg]] 08:10, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' Not useful. [[User:SQL|<span style="color: #fff;background:#900;border:2px solid #999">SQL</span>]][[User talk:SQL|<sup style="color:#999">Query me!</sup>]] 10:37, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

* '''Delete''' - Useless. <font face="Lucida Calligraphy"><b>[[User:Greeves|Greeves]]</b></font> ^{([[User talk:Greeves|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Greeves|contribs]])} 22:05, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

*'''delete''' - Looks like an idea which came out of the blue, and wasn't even "proposed" before moving forward. [[User:Huji|Huji]] 10:18, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

* '''Delete''' — Seems like less than a good idea to me — glad to see the consensus above. Cheers, [[User:Jack Merridew|User:Jack Merridew a.k.a. David]] 14:43, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' per birdy. --[[User:Az1568|Az1568]] 08:33, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''', unuseful. [[User:Stifle|Stifle]] 10:59, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''', there seems to be no need for this page. '''[[User:Singularity|<font color="black">Singu</font>]][[User talk:Singularity|<font color="black">larity</font>]]''' 06:18, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

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====[[Ideas on how to write about--and how not to write about--film]]====

{{closed|1=Deleted. If someone will need to import it, I may undelete and give an XML dump of it — ''[[User:VasilievVV|VasilievV]]'' ^{[[User talk:VasilievVV|2]]} 17:24, 10 June 2008 (UTC)|text=

Old unused page, should be on Wikipedia, not here.

*'''Delete''' '''[[User:Majorly|<span style="font-family:verdana; color:#B05427">Majorly</span>]]''' ^{''[[User talk:Majorly|<span style="color:black">talk</span>]]''} 19:39, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

*'''Transwiki''' or '''delete'''. I would agree with Majorly, this looks pretty enwiki-centric and has little to do with cross-project collaboration. Could perhaps become a subpage at Wikiproject Film on enwiki, otherwise delete. <span style="font-family: Verdana">[[User:WJBscribe|'''WjB'''scribe]]</span> 19:44, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

*'''Quick delete''' even, as it is out of scope of project. [[User:Huji|Huji]] 20:06, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

*'''Quick delete''' I'm with Huji - out of scope --[[User:Herbythyme|<font color="green">Herby</font>]] <b>^{<small><span style="color:#90F">[[User talk:Herbythyme|talk thyme]]</span></small>}</b> 08:13, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

*'''Comment''' - I disagree with the speedy deletion, since it doesn't fall under [[WM:CSD#G7]]; it was not out of scope when it was created. Since it is linked from [[w:Wikipedia:WikiProject Films/Style guidelines]] ([http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Films/Style_guidelines#See_also]), I suggest to '''transwiki''' this page to Wikipedia. [[User:Korg|Korg]] 10:07, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''', looks to be for Wikipedia, not here. '''[[User:Singularity|<font color="black">Singu</font>]][[User talk:Singularity|<font color="black">larity</font>]]''' 06:22, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

* '''Delete''' per nom. --_{[[user talk:Innv|~]]}<small>[[User:Innv|Innv]]</small>^{[[s:ru:user talk:Innv|s:]]} 07:40, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''', WikiProject Film on en.wiki has some pretty good comprehensive pages that deal with this already. [[User:Cirt|Cirt]] 12:04, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

*'''Transwiki''' Belongs on EN:WP.--[[User:Poetlister|<font color="green">Poetlister</font>]] 12:06, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''', I don't think anything said there isn't already said at [[w:Wikipedia:WikiProject Films/Style guidelines]] or a similar ___location, so another copy won't really be necessary. ''[[user:giggy|giggy]]'' _{([[user talk:giggy|:O]])} 00:30, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' Clearly superfluous.--[[User:Cato|Cato]] 19:08, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

*'''Note''' - Since this page is going to be deleted, transwikied or not, and might or might not be appropriate on Wikipedia, I've left a note at [[:en:Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Films]] to know if it would be actually suitable there. [[User:Korg|Korg]] 01:25, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

*'''Transwiki''' on enwiki or '''delete'''. --[[User:Kiensvay|Kiensvay]] 01:32, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' --[[User:Mardetanha|<font face="Rage Italic" size="4" style="color:#000000;color:black"><i>Mardetanha</i></font>]] ^{<span style="font-family:Italic;color:black">[[user_talk:Mardetanha|talk]]</span>} 02:02, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

*'''Special:Import into enwiki''' to preserve GFDL compliance (texts seem to have common root?); note that this will have to wait for SUL to be fully completed. Oh, and for the ''importers'' usergroup to be activated and populated on enwiki. [[User:Jdforrester|James F.]] [[User talk:Jdforrester|(talk)]] 11:01, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' I believe [[:en:Wikipedia:WikiProject Films/Style guidelines|Wikipedia:WikiProject Films/Style guidelines]] and [[:en:Wikipedia:Manual of Style (writing about fiction)|Wikipedia:Manual of Style (writing about fiction)]] cover all the information listed at this page. <font face="georgia"><span style="background:#E0FFFF;color:#007FFF">[[User:Nishkid64|Nishkid64]] ([[User talk:Nishkid64|talk]])</span></font> 16:31, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

* If this is more general than guidlines at Wikipedia this could perhaps go to Wikiversity. --[[User:Emesee|Emesee]] 19:37, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

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==== [[Early Muslim view of history]] ====

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'''Deleted''' - there seems to be clear consensus here, even subtracting my vote. --<strong>[[user:Anonymous Dissident|<font face="Script MT Bold"><font color="DodgerBlue">Anonymous Dissident</font></font>]]</strong>[[user talk:Anonymous Dissident|^{<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:Gray">Talk</span>}]] 22:07, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

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The article seems to be out of the scope of Meta. I'm not sure if there is any value of keeping for historical reasons. [[User:Huji|Huji]] 16:49, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

*'''delete''' offtopic--[[User:Nick1915|Nick1915]] -^{<small> [[User_talk:Nick1915|all you want]]</small>} 17:17, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' Not even ''close'' to what Meta is for. Speedy? It's not an official reason for deletion, but geez, I'm surprised that it's lasted this long... [[User:EVula|EVula]] <span style="color: #999;">// [[User talk:EVula|talk]] // [[User:EVula/admin|<span style="color: #366;">&#9775;</span>]] //</span> 17:34, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' Off topic, I don't see where we need this info at Meta. --[[User:Kanonkas|Kanonkas]] 18:30, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' per [[User:Kanonkas|Kanonkas]] --[[User:Cradel|Cradel]] 19:46, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' - Not for Meta. [[User:Soxred93|Soxred93]] 01:16, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete'''... not really seeing any reason to keep. ''[[user:giggy|giggy]]'' _{([[user talk:giggy|:O]])} 05:14, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' Wrong wiki. -- [[User:Avraham|Avi]] 04:48, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' <font face="Lucida Calligraphy"><b>[[User:Greeves|Greeves]]</b></font> ^{([[User talk:Greeves|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Greeves|contribs]])} 17:47, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

*'''Del''' - obviously not what Meta is for. --<strong>[[user:Anonymous Dissident|<font face="Script MT Bold"><font color="DodgerBlue">Anonymous Dissident</font></font>]]</strong>[[user talk:Anonymous Dissident|^{<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:Gray">Talk</span>}]] 11:19, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

* '''Question''' - Why do you think this page is not appropriate on Meta? [[User:Korg|Korg]] 23:17, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

**The title pretty much is self-explanatory. --<strong>[[user:Anonymous Dissident|<font face="Script MT Bold"><font color="DodgerBlue">Anonymous Dissident</font></font>]]</strong>[[user talk:Anonymous Dissident|^{<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:Gray">Talk</span>}]] 12:30, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

***Shouldn't pages be judged on their content rather than their title (how about [[Don't be a dick]] then)? This reflection or essay is not totally unrelated to [[NPOV]] and Wikipedia; it was even linked from the Main Page,^{[http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Main_Page&oldid=19750#Neutral_point_of_view]} so I do not think it is unrelated to Meta. By the way, isn't it somewhat analogous to [[Can history be truly NPOV?]] or [[Meta:Historical/Simple View of Ethics and Morals]]? [[User:Korg|Korg]] 18:32, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

****Obviously, page content is much more important that title. Korg, many other people agree this is not appropriate for Meta. If you believe it should be included, place a keep vote. --<strong>[[user:Anonymous Dissident|<font face="Script MT Bold"><font color="DodgerBlue">Anonymous Dissident</font></font>]]</strong>[[user talk:Anonymous Dissident|^{<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:Gray">Talk</span>}]] 06:52, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

*****Ok, I've placed a keep "vote". But RfD should be more a discussion and less a vote. The fact that several users think this page is not appropriate for Meta has little weight if they do not provide any arguments. Again, could people please explain why this page is not appropriate here? [[User:Korg|Korg]] 18:14, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

* '''Delete''' — Since 19 January 2003 ??? — Not a meta issue. Cheers, [[User:Jack Merridew|Jack Merridew]] 13:00, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' - out of scope for Meta - [[User:Alison|<span style="color:#FF823D;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;cursor:help">'''A<font color="#FF7C0A">l<font color="#FFB550">is</font>o</font>n'''</span>]] ^{[[User talk:Alison|❤]]} 08:03, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

*'''Keep''' - Part of Wikipedia's history. This page is not out of the scope of Meta: reflections, essays, discussions or historical pages that are not unrelated to Wikimedia's projects or principles are appropriate on Meta. [[User:Korg|Korg]] 18:14, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' Contra Korg, this is not a high-level strategic essay but a very specific and arguably POV one.--[[User:Cato|Cato]] 23:00, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

**Please note that specific or POV essays were (are) acceptable on Meta. [[User:Korg|Korg]] 17:57, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' - clearly not an appropriate item for meta. <font face="Verdana">[[User:Sephiroth BCR|<font color="navy">'''Sephiroth BCR'''</font>]] ^{'''([[User talk:Sephiroth BCR|<font color="blue">Converse</font>]])'''}</font> 22:02, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

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==== [[Alfavet]] ====

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I think the page is only storing some unsorted piece of info which is not of use on Meta. I think it falls outside the scopes of Meta [[User:Huji|Huji]] 16:08, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

:Made by an IP 14:34, 3 October 2005 and untouched/unreferenced since except for a categorization and the rfd. I've deleted it. [[User:Kylu|Kylu]] 21:59, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

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====[[Deconstruction]]====

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Deleted. Not relevant to Meta. Disregarding my remark, consensus here is still clear. &mdash;<strong>[[user:Anonymous Dissident|<font face="Script MT Bold"><font color="DodgerBlue">Anonymous Dissident</font></font>]]</strong>[[user talk:Anonymous Dissident|^{<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:Gray">Talk</span>}]] 04:39, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

:Also the redirect [[Deconstructionism]] and the page [[Deconstrucion]].

I don't think this page needs to be retained. Its only contributor last edited in 2004, and his only other edit to anything else was [http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Main_Page&diff=prev&oldid=34494 this]. The page doesn't really serve a purpose or benefit this project or any other WMF project in any way. '''[[User:Cirt|Cirt]]''' ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 02:21, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

*Delete, I should think. It is completely irrelevant. I am all for pages providing historical context, but this page provides no such context extrinsic from its oldness. &mdash;<strong>[[user:Anonymous Dissident|<font face="Script MT Bold"><font color="DodgerBlue">Anonymous Dissident</font></font>]]</strong>[[user talk:Anonymous Dissident|^{<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:Gray">Talk</span>}]] 02:36, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

*Delete, concur with AD. The page adds nothing useful to Meta. —'''[[user talk:giggy|Giggy]]''' 03:41, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''', unless someone can explain how this page is relevant to coordinating Wikimedia projects. <strong style="font-variant:small-caps">[[User:WJBscribe|WJBscribe]] [[User talk:WJBscribe|(talk)]]</strong> 03:43, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

* At first glance, maybe transwiki to Wikiversity. Or if it can fit in the respective article at WP, then maybe put it there. If it is duplicate of WP... I'd suggest a closer look at things. [[User:Emesee|Emesee]] 08:32, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

**I'd be highly intrigued if you could explain how a transwiki to Wikiversity or Wikipedia would be possible. &mdash;<strong>[[user:Anonymous Dissident|<font face="Script MT Bold"><font color="DodgerBlue">Anonymous Dissident</font></font>]]</strong>[[user talk:Anonymous Dissident|^{<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:Gray">Talk</span>}]] 09:07, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' per Anonymous Dissident and I'm also curious as he is as to how it would be appropriate to move it to Wikiversity or to Wikipedia. [[User:Adambro|Adambro]] 09:57, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete'''per above --[[User:Mardetanha|<font face="Rage Italic" size="4" style="color:#000000;color:black"><i>Mardetanha</i></font>]] ^{<span style="font-family:Italic;color:black">[[user_talk:Mardetanha|talk]]</span>} 10:38, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

*'''Move to user space''', since it can still be kept as the views of a user, although I doubt how it can help the project. [[User:Huji|Huji]] 18:39, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' Not really relevant to ''anything'', much less Meta, Wikiversity, or Wikipedia. [[User:EVula|EVula]] <span style="color: #999;">// [[User talk:EVula|talk]] // [[User:EVula/admin|<span style="color: #366;">&#9775;</span>]] //</span> 15:58, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

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====[[BPBack Log]]====

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Doesn't seem particularly useful for our project(s). '''[[User:Majorly|<span style="font-family:verdana; color:#B05427">Majorly</span>]]''' ^{''[[User talk:Majorly|<span style="color:black">talk</span>]]''} 16:01, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''', I was very confuse about his content... [[user:Alexanderps|Alex Pereira]] ^{[[user talk:Alexanderps|falaê]]} 16:11, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' unless it can assert to how it is relevant to the project. [[User:Xaosflux|<b><font color="#FF9933" face="monotype">xaosflux</font></b>]] ^{[[User_talk:Xaosflux|<font color="#00FF00">Talk</font>]]}<font color="#888888"></font> 16:23, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' Agree with {{user1|Majorly}} and {{user1|Xaosflux}}. '''[[User:Cirt|Cirt]]''' ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 22:20, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' per Majorly --[[User:.snoopy.|.snoopy.]] [[User talk:.snoopy.|✉]] 23:01, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

*Not seeing the usefulness either. '''delete''' ++[[User:Lar|Lar]]: [[User_talk:Lar|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Lar|c]] 01:37, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

*Baleeted. [[User:Kylu|Kylu]] 19:13, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

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====[[Google Ads Monobook]]====

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Tagged as {{tl|MoveToMediaWiki}}, but its mostly outdated and redundant to extensions that do this properly. It recommends either editing the MediaWiki PHP files, which we tell people not to do or to use an incredibly insecure extension (which I [http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Google_Ads_Monobook&diff=next&oldid=1238380 removed]). It shouldn't be moved to MediaWiki.org, and it shouldn't be here. [[User:Mr.Z-man|Mr.Z-man]] 21:05, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete.''' Agree with this analysis by {{user1|Mr.Z-man}}. '''[[User:Cirt|Cirt]]''' ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 22:25, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

*So do I. '''delete''' ++[[User:Lar|Lar]]: [[User_talk:Lar|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Lar|c]] 01:37, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' - on the basis that the content doesn't belong either on MetaWiki or MediaWiki. <strong style="font-variant:small-caps">[[User:WJBscribe|WJBscribe]] [[User talk:WJBscribe|(talk)]]</strong> 03:37, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

*Deleted. [[User:Kylu|Kylu]] 23:56, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

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{{closed|text=Deleting all but ru version. &mdash;<strong>[[user:Anonymous Dissident|<font face="Script MT Bold"><font color="#344D69">Anonymous Dissident</font></font>]]</strong>[[user talk:Anonymous Dissident|^{<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:Gray">Talk</span>}]] 07:30, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

===[[No climbing the Reichstag dressed as Spider-Man]]===

:This request also includes:

:*[[No climbing the Reichstag dressed as Spider-Man/cs]]

:*[[No climbing the Reichstag dressed as Spider-Man/ru]]

A partial copy of a content essay from enwiki: The meat of this essay is already covered on other pages. IFF this is to be kept, then it should be [[Special:Import]]ed instead to maintain GFDL. [[User:Xaosflux|<b><font color="#FF9933" face="monotype">xaosflux</font></b>]] ^{[[User_talk:Xaosflux|<font color="#00FF00">Talk</font>]]}<font color="#888888"></font> 21:40, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

: I'd really like to keep [[No climbing the Reichstag dressed as Spider-Man/ru|russian edition]] of this essay, which I translated. I've added other language versions only as context for russian version. I am aware of GFDL issues, so I've copied only one paragraph of english and czech text and asked to import full text in a hidden comment. As for suitability of this essay for inclusion on meta, it is relevant not only for Wikipedia, but also for other Wikimedia projects. There are lame [[edit wars]] in almost all Wikimedia projects, and this essay gives a good way to say: "don't do anything really extravagant (read: stupid) just to prove a [[point]]". In other words, if a [[Do not disrupt projects to make a point]] is relevant for meta, then this essay is relevant too, because essentially they state the same thing, first being serious, second being humorous. --[[User:Grebenkov|Grebenkov]] 22:12, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete.''' Agree with rationale given above by {{user1|Xaosflux}}. The import possibility is a good option if it is kept. '''[[User:Cirt|Cirt]]''' ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 22:25, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' - I also added to subpages of that page (Russian and Czech translations). Please note that [[User:Cirt]] voted before the addition of those two pages. [[User:Huji|Huji]] 18:55, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

:My take is the same for those. '''[[User:Cirt|Cirt]]''' ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 20:04, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' Would prefer it was imported. '''[[User:Majorly|<span style="font-family:verdana; color:#B05427">Majorly</span>]]''' ^{''[[User talk:Majorly|<span style="color:black">talk</span>]]''} 19:01, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' what the hell--[[Special:Contributions/201.15.248.204|201.15.248.204]] 01:26, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

*'''Note''' I've imported the prior versions of this page so this discussion should not be about GFDL anymore, just content (their just as easy to delete as the rest of the page if this ends up as a delete). [[User:Xaosflux|<b><font color="#FF9933" face="monotype">xaosflux</font></b>]] ^{[[User_talk:Xaosflux|<font color="#00FF00">Talk</font>]]}<font color="#888888"></font> 13:09, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

* '''Keep''' Russian version (imported by original author, no copyright problems), delete others — [[User:VasilievVV|vvv]] 21:55, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

* '''Keep''' now that the enwiki revisions have been imported. The essay seems to me to be appropriate content for meta given that it is relevant to more than just enwiki and therefore of potential cross-project interest. <strong style="font-variant:small-caps">[[User:WJBscribe|WJBscribe]] [[User talk:WJBscribe|(talk)]]</strong> 03:40, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

* '''Keep''' per VasilievVV —&nbsp;[[User:Ferrer|Ferrer]] 10:09, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

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===Templates===

===[[Template:T Forcedsubst|T Forcedsubst]]===

====[[Template:Li]]====

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The purpose of this template isn't clear but it doesn't seem very useful. Judging by the limit uses and that it hasn't been changed at all for three years, I suspect this is not needed so I propose it is deleted. [[User:Adambro|Adambro]] 17:30, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

*Delete, does not appear to be useful. '''[[User:Majorly|<span style="color:#002bb8">Majorly</span>]]''' (''[[User talk:Majorly|talk]]'') 17:37, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

** Patrick makes a lot of template and stuff which looks unnecessary but might be useful..better to ask him first though....--<span style="color:blue;font-weight:bold;font-size:medium;font-family: Monotype Corsiva;">[[User:Cometstyles|Comet]][[User talk:Cometstyles|styles]]</span> 18:00, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

**:I've notified Patrick of this discussion now. [[User:Adambro|Adambro]] 18:27, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

*Delete, users interested in seeing images enlarged can use a browser which does that conveniently.--[[User:Patrick|Patrick]] ([[User talk:Patrick|talk]]) 01:11, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' - I can't work out a use for this, agree with above. [[User:Giggy|Giggy]]\^{[[User talk:Giggy|Talk]]} 10:08, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' - --<strong>[[user:Anonymous Dissident|<font face="Script MT Bold"><font color="DodgerBlue">Anonymous Dissident</font></font>]]</strong>[[user talk:Anonymous Dissident|^{<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:Gray">Talk</span>}]] 11:24, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' - well if Patrick agrees, then its ok....--<span style="color:blue;font-weight:bold;font-size:medium;font-family: Monotype Corsiva;">[[User:Cometstyles|Comet]][[User talk:Cometstyles|styles]]</span> 11:28, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' currently useless. --[[User:Dungodung|<span style="color:blue;">'''FiLiP'''</span>]] [[User talk:Dungodung|'''¤''']] 11:30, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''', currently without use, creator voted delete. <i><b>[[User:Snowolf|<font color = "darkmagenta">Snowolf</font>]] ^{<small>[[User talk:Snowolf|<font color = "darkmagenta">How can I help?</font>]]</small>}</b></i> 12:35, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

'''Deleted''', clear consensus in addition to [[Meta:Deletion policy#Criteria for speedy deletion|author's request]]. —<small>{[[Meta:Admins|admin]]} [[User talk:Pathoschild/s|Pathoschild]] 17:48:31, 06 February 2008 (UTC)</small>

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====[[Template:T Forcedsubst|T Forcedsubst]]====

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This template has been unused, orphaned, uncategorized, and undocumented since June 2006. —<small>{[[Meta:Admins|admin]]} [[User talk:Pathoschild/s|Pathoschild]] 16:43:48, 23 January 2008 (UTC)</small>

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* {{remove}} -what that pathos guy said :P ...--<span style="color:blue;font-weight:bold;font-size:medium;font-family: Monotype Corsiva;">[[User:Cometstyles|Comet]][[User talk:Cometstyles|styles]]</span> 21:37, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

* {{remove}} No use on Meta. <font face="georgia"><span style="background:#E0FFFF;color:#007FFF">[[User:Nishkid64|Nishkid64]] ([[User talk:Nishkid64|talk]])</span></font> 22:40, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

::'''Done'''.--[[User:Alnokta|Alnokta]] 04:01, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

====[[Template:Tracking category|Tracking category]]====

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This template has been unused and orphaned since February 2007. It was copied from the Wikimedia Commons, including broken categories and broken nested templates. It is overcomplicated and overbearing, given that its sole purpose is to briefly explain a tracking category (which is not particularly necessary besides). —<small>{[[Meta:Admins|admin]]} [[User talk:Pathoschild/s|Pathoschild]] 03:46:27, 24 January 2008 (UTC)</small>

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* {{remove}} Unneeded here. <font face="georgia"><span style="background:#E0FFFF;color:#007FFF">[[User:Nishkid64|Nishkid64]] ([[User talk:Nishkid64|talk]])</span></font> 22:40, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

* {{Remove}} per my good friend Pathoschild.--[[User:Poetlister|<font color="green">Poetlister</font>]] 17:24, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

::'''Done'''. --[[User:Alnokta|Alnokta]] 04:01, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

====[[Template:User tsolyáni-1|User tsolyáni-1]]====

{{closed|text=This is a language template for [[w:Tsolyáni|Tsolyáni]], a language constructed for the ''Empire of the Petal Throne'' role-playing game. The template is only used by its creator and there are no primary speakers of this language; I see no real usefulness in converting it to the new {{[[template:user language|user language]]}} system.

I suggest it be substituted onto the creator's page, and deleted. —<small>{[[Meta:Admins|admin]]} [[User talk:Pathoschild/s|Pathoschild]] 22:57:43, 11 February 2008 (UTC)</small>

*'''Subst + Delete''' Non-notable made-up languages should not be babel boxes. [[User:EVula|EVula]] <span style="color: #999;">// [[User talk:EVula|talk]] // [[User:EVula/admin|<span style="color: #366;">&#9775;</span>]] //</span> 05:54, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

*'''subst & delete''' - per nom ...--<span style="color:blue;font-weight:bold;font-size:medium;font-family: Monotype Corsiva;">[[User:Cometstyles|Comet]][[User talk:Cometstyles|styles]]</span> 05:57, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

*Per Pathoschild: Subst: + Delete. --[[User:Thogo|Thogo]] <small>([[User talk:Thogo|talk]])</small> 11:57, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

*'''Substitute and delete''' - Made-up languages don't generally need Babel boxes, this is not an exception. [[User:Keilana|Keilana]]<nowiki>|</nowiki>^{[[User talk:Keilana|Parlez ici]]} 16:43, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

*:[[Template:User eo|O RLY]]? :P [[User:EVula|EVula]] <span style="color: #999;">// [[User talk:EVula|talk]] // [[User:EVula/admin|<span style="color: #366;">&#9775;</span>]] //</span> 21:09, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

*:I said generally, there are probably less than 10 exceptions. [[User:Keilana|Keilana]]<nowiki>|</nowiki>^{[[User talk:Keilana|Parlez ici]]} 01:06, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

*::I'm just picking on you, don't worry. That's why I said "''non-notable'' made-up languages". :) [[User:EVula|EVula]] <span style="color: #999;">// [[User talk:EVula|talk]] // [[User:EVula/admin|<span style="color: #366;">&#9775;</span>]] //</span> 23:16, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

*'''Subst and delete''' per nom. --[[User:Aphaia|Aphaia]] 20:01, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

*'''subst & delete''', --[[User:Spacebirdy|birdy <small>geimfyglið</small>]] [[User_talk:Spacebirdy|_(:>&nbsp;)=|]] [[commons:User:Spacebirdy/Myndir|<small>∇</small>]] 20:05, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

*'''subst & delete''' - per nom --[[User:Herbythyme|<font color="green">Herby</font>]] <b>^{<small><span style="color:#90F">[[User talk:Herbythyme|talk thyme]]</span></small>}</b> 11:30, 13 February 2008 (UTC)|subst:ed and deleted, clear consensus. --[[User:Thogo|Thogo]] <small>([[User talk:Thogo|talk]])</small> 09:32, 18 February 2008 (UTC)}}

===Categories===

====Users by bilingual fluencies====

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The categories listed below were created to facilitate translation, but they're redundant with [[:Category:Users by language]] ([[DynamicPageList|intersections possible]]), and highly incomplete. The categories must be added manually, so there are only 8 intersections of the many (^227!/_2!225!) possible intersections, each containing only one user. Several of the categories are redundant (such as [[:Category:Users de en|Users de en]] and [[:Category:Users de en-3|Users de en-3]]), and there are only five users listed in the system.

* [[Multilingual users]] (project page)

* Templates

** [[Template:Babelmulti1|Babelmulti1]]

** [[Template:Babelmulti2|Babelmulti2]]

* Categories

*# [[:Category:Multilingual users|Multilingual users]]

*# [[:Category:Users de en|Users de en]]

*# [[:Category:Users de en-3|Users de en-3]]

*# [[:Category:Users de ksh|Users de ksh]]

*# [[:Category:Users en-3 ksh|Users en-3 ksh]]

*# [[:Category:Users en fr|Users en fr]]

*# [[:Category:Users en fr-3|Users en fr-3]]

*# [[:Category:Users en ksh|Users en ksh]]

*# [[:Category:Users en pt|Users en pt]]

*# [[:Category:Users en sv|Users en sv]]

*# [[:Category:Users en tr|Users en tr]]

*# [[:Category:Users ja en-1|Users ja en-1]]

*# [[:Category:Users pt en-1|Users pt en-1]]

*# [[:Category:Users sv en-3|Users sv en-3]]

*# [[:Category:Users tr en-4|Users tr en-4]]

—<small>{[[Meta:Admins|admin]]} [[User talk:Pathoschild/s|Pathoschild]] 06:32:01, 15 February 2008 (UTC)</small>

: I agree, new technical possibilities make the [[Multilingual users]] obsolete. [[User:HenkvD|HenkvD]] 19:03, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

:I agree completely with Patho. --[[User:Meno25|Meno25]] 19:17, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Deleted per the creator's agreement. —<small>{[[Meta:Admins|admin]]} [[User talk:Pathoschild/s|Pathoschild]] 21:11:41, 17 February 2008 (UTC)</small>

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====[[:Category:Users who are active on all Wikimedia wikis|Users who are active on all Wikimedia wikis]]====

{{closed|1=Deleted. <font face="georgia"><span style="background:#E0FFFF;color:#007FFF">[[User:Nishkid64|Nishkid64]] ([[User talk:Nishkid64|talk]])</span></font> 03:29, 2 March 2008 (UTC)|text=

This category categorizes users who have accounts on all Wikimedia wikis, regardless of activity there. This is highly inaccurate— many wikis are locked and do not allow new accounts, many others are internal, and new wikis are created every few months so that users on this list quickly fall out of date. Furthermore, this seems to be primarily a vanity category and serves no collaborative or community purpose that I can see. —<small>{[[Meta:Admins|admin]]} [[User talk:Pathoschild/s|Pathoschild]] 00:02:07, 18 February 2008 (UTC)</small>

*'''Delete''', inaccurate title. Editors will most likely never be active on some internal wikis. [[User:Nakon|<font color="#CC5500">'''Nakon'''</font>]] 01:01, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' per Pathoschild. ++[[User:Lar|Lar]]: [[User_talk:Lar|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Lar|c]] 05:12, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' - I don't think it's possible for anyone to be placed in this cat, making it meaningless. [[User:Giggy|Giggy]]\^{[[User talk:Giggy|Talk]]} 08:26, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete'''. See Giggy. --[[User:Thogo|Thogo]] <small>([[User talk:Thogo|talk]])</small> 08:33, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

*: Are you saying Giggy's meaningless? :) ++[[User:Lar|Lar]]: [[User_talk:Lar|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Lar|c]] 14:27, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

*:Are you saying he's not? ;) [[User:EVula|EVula]] <span style="color: #999;">// [[User talk:EVula|talk]] // [[User:EVula/admin|<span style="color: #366;">&#9775;</span>]] //</span> 20:11, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' not feasible, even if we limit the targets to all public and open wikis only. --[[User:Aphaia|Aphaia]] 09:18, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

*delete, not very useful, besides of the impossibility of being 'active' on all wmf projects. best regards, --[[User:Spacebirdy|birdy <small>geimfyglið</small>]] [[User_talk:Spacebirdy|_(:>&nbsp;)=|]] [[commons:User:Spacebirdy/Myndir|<small>∇</small>]] 10:36, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

*'''delete''' - though I'm on it...need to look for another cat to add :~( ....--<span style="color:blue;font-weight:bold;font-size:medium;font-family: Monotype Corsiva;">[[User:Cometstyles|Comet]][[User talk:Cometstyles|styles]]</span> 14:50, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

*Delete, as impossible. '''[[User:Majorly|<span style="color:#002bb8">Majorly</span>]]''' (''[[User talk:Majorly|talk]]'') 15:03, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' per nom. [[User:Adambro|Adambro]] 17:20, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

* '''Delete''', I agree with Spacebird. [[user:Alexanderps|Alex Pereira]] ^{[[user talk:Alexanderps|falaê]]} 17:49, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

* '''Delete''' How many wikis are there? Who'd have time to set up all those accounts, let alone do anything with them? And how many different alphabets are involved - Russian, Greek, Hebrew, Japanese, etc?--[[User:Poetlister|<font color="green">Poetlister</font>]] 00:17, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

*:Er... you'd be surprised at how easy it is. [[User:EVula|EVula]] <span style="color: #999;">// [[User talk:EVula|talk]] // [[User:EVula/admin|<span style="color: #366;">&#9775;</span>]] //</span> 04:52, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

* '''Deleted''', per the snowball thing. [[User:Jon Harald Søby|Jon Harald Søby]] 15:35, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

*:'''undeleted''' JHS, Please, no snowball here. Please respect the two-week policy - see [[meta talk:requests for deletion#At least two weeks]]. [[User:Hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]] 18:37, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''', per above. [[User:Hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]] 18:42, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' per nom [[User:Huji|Huji]] 22:05, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' unmaintainable. Also note, I support snowball closure. [[User:Xaosflux|<b><font color="#FF9933" face="monotype">xaosflux</font></b>]] ^{[[User_talk:Xaosflux|<font color="#00FF00">Talk</font>]]}<font color="#888888"></font> 14:43, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

*Obviously and inevitably inaccurate. --<strong>[[user:Anonymous Dissident|<font face="Script MT Bold"><font color="DodgerBlue">Anonymous Dissident</font></font>]]</strong>[[user talk:Anonymous Dissident|^{<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:Gray">Talk</span>}]] 22:25, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' pretty much per nom, even if I'm taking it as [[User:EVula/matrix|a target to shoot for]]. :D [[User:EVula|EVula]] <span style="color: #999;">// [[User talk:EVula|talk]] // [[User:EVula/admin|<span style="color: #366;">&#9775;</span>]] //</span> 04:51, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete'''. Great statement, Pathos. [[User talk:J-stan|<strong><font color="Black">''Jus</font><font color="Red">tin''</font></strong>]]_{[[User:J-stan|(u)]]} 23:28, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

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===Images===

=====[[:Image:Ads-on-english-wikipedia-pie-2008-03-20.png|Ads-on-english-wikipedia-pie-2008-03-20.png]]=====

====[[:Image:Wikinews-brevity.pdf]]====

{{closed|Could've been speedy-deleted, actually. [[User:Kylu|Kylu]]}}

Self. Correct version later uploaded. -- [[User:Jeandré du Toit|Jeandré]], 2008-03-20[[User talk:Jeandré du Toit|t]]21:03z

*Tagged for speedy deletion. [[User:Keilana|Keilana]]<nowiki>|</nowiki>^{[[User talk:Keilana|Parlez ici]]} 22:59, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

* Deleted. ----<strong>[[user:Anonymous Dissident|<font face="Script MT Bold"><font color="DodgerBlue">Anonymous Dissident</font></font>]]</strong>[[user talk:Anonymous Dissident|^{<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:Gray">Talk</span>}]] 02:07, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

=====[[:Image:Wikinews-brevity.pdf]]=====

{{closed|Consensus here has pretty clearly been derived already, I see no more reason for this discussion to continue. [[User:Anonymous Dissident]]}}

The uploader that I have notified licensed it as Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike, not compatible with GFDL.--[[User:Jusjih|Jusjih]] 03:56, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

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*'''Delete''' per nom--[[User:Nick1915|Nick1915]] -^{<small> [[User_talk:Nick1915|all you want]]</small>} 09:34, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

=====[[:Image:BICC Main building.jpg]], [[:Image:BICC Sagarmatha Hall.jpg]], [[:Image:BICC Entrance.jpg]]=====

{{closed|Deleted -[[user:Anonymous Dissident]]}}

I'm not particularly happy about the source/copyright status of these images uploaded by [[User:Rollingstars|Rollingstars]] for use on [[Wikimania 2009/Kathmandu]] and [[Wikimania 2009/Bids/Kathmandu]]. These originally had no source and licence info which prompted me to tag these with {{tl|no source}}. The page was then blanked on a number of occasions by this user and from [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/116.90.230.130 his IP address]. Recently the user has tagged two of the three images {{tl|GFDL-self}}, I presume he forgot to do this on the third image [[:Image:BICC Entrance.jpg]]. Anyway, after a quick search I've found all three image on the proposed Wikimania venue's website/

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*'''Delete''' - per Jujih. --<strong>[[user:Anonymous Dissident|<font face="Script MT Bold"><font color="DodgerBlue">Anonymous Dissident</font></font>]]</strong>[[user talk:Anonymous Dissident|^{<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:Gray">Talk</span>}]] 12:40, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

=====[[:Image:Volantino corso informatica 2005-2006.pdf]]=====

{{Closed|speedy del, offtopic, outside the [[WM:IP|Inclusion Policy]]--[[User:Nick1915|Nick1915]] -^{<small> [[User_talk:Nick1915|all you want]]</small>} 03:06, 9 January 2008 (UTC)}}

There is a web address in the PDF but with no license. Its uploader is notified.--[[User:Jusjih|Jusjih]] 20:42, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

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*'''Delete''' ----<strong>[[user:Anonymous Dissident|<font face="Script MT Bold"><font color="DodgerBlue">Anonymous Dissident</font></font>]]</strong>[[user talk:Anonymous Dissident|^{<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:Gray">Talk</span>}]] 15:56, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

=====[[:Image:Sonnenblume.jpg]]=====

{{closed|deleted, nowcommons [[:Image:Sonnenblume full resolution.jpg]]--[[User:Nick1915|Nick1915]] -^{<small> [[User_talk:Nick1915|all you want]]</small>} 16:19, 9 January 2008 (UTC)}}

As images moved to Commons are not listed at [[Meta:Deletion_policy#Criteria_for_speedy_deletion]], I list this one moved to [[commons:Image:1280px-Sonnenblume.jpg]].--[[User:Jusjih|Jusjih]] 20:26, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

:[[commons:Image:1280px-Sonnenblume.jpg]] is now tagged a scaled-down version of [[:Image:Sonnenblume full resolution.jpg]].--[[User:Jusjih|Jusjih]] 01:59, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

=====[[:Image:Red sunset02.jpg]]=====

{{Closed|Even if this case is not listed at [[Meta:Deletion policy]], we no need to keep them twice, nowcommons--[[User:Nick1915|Nick1915]] -^{<small> [[User_talk:Nick1915|all you want]]</small>} 03:13, 9 January 2008 (UTC)}}

Also moved to Commons but with the same name.--[[User:Jusjih|Jusjih]] 22:25, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

=====[[:Image:MainIcon.jpg]]=====

{{closed|deleted per author req--[[User:Nick1915|Nick1915]] -^{<small> [[User_talk:Nick1915|all you want]]</small>} 16:22, 9 January 2008 (UTC)}}

Unused with uncertain license even though claimed self-made. Uploader has not responded to my inquiry.--[[User:Jusjih|Jusjih]] 02:45, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

:I've also informed the author on his en.wp account, where he appears to be more active than here. [[User:EVula|EVula]] <span style="color: #999;">// [[User talk:EVula|talk]] // [[User:EVula/admin|<span style="color: #366;">&#9775;</span>]] //</span> 05:41, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

::Feel free to del, this is a leftover from a project moved to [http://howto.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page wikihowto] [[User:ZyMOS|ZyMOS]] 15:58, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

=====[[:Image:So.gif]]=====

{{closed|Deleted. [[User:Anonymous Dissident]]}}

Is it redundant to [[:Image:Flag of Somalia.svg]] on Commons? If delete, all relevant links will have to be changed. If keep, can it be simply tagged <nowiki>{{PD}}</nowiki> while the source is not so clear?--[[User:Jusjih|Jusjih]] 04:10, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

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*'''Delete''' per Jusjih. --[[User:.snoopy.|.snoopy.]] [[User talk:.snoopy.|]] 15:21, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

====[[:Image:Logo dbv.gif]]====

{{closed|'''Delete''' - as per consensus--<span style="color:blue;font-weight:bold;font-size:medium;font-family: Monotype Corsiva;">[[User:Cometstyles|Comet]][[User talk:Cometstyles|styles]]</span> 10:56, 21 January 2008 (UTC)}}

No good reason to claim "fair" use on this logo. Uploader is notified.--[[User:Jusjih|Jusjih]] 00:52, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

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Well, there was good reason but as you deleted all the other Wikimania 2005 sponsors, it makes no sense to keep this -- [[User:Nichtich|Nichtich]] 00:51, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

:Please explain that good reason that was there. --[[User:Thogo|Thogo]] <small>([[User talk:Thogo|talk]])</small> 10:19, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

::I assume that it was to give attribution to the sponsor on the Wikimania pages? :) [[user:Effeietsanders|Effeiets]]'''[[w:nl:gebruiker:Effeietsanders|anders]]''' 12:36, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

:::Well, that's not a "good" reason to still keep it in 2008... ;O) --[[User:Thogo|Thogo]] <small>([[User talk:Thogo|talk]])</small> 12:41, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

::::Unless they sponsor Wikimania 2008? Wait, could they consider an event held in another country national library? Can anyone contact them and get support again? --[[User:Aphaia|Aphaia]] 05:15, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

:::::The problem is the license of this logo, not the usefulness. In Germany there is no "fair use". They have to agree per mail to OTRS. --[[User:Thogo|Thogo]] <small>([[User talk:Thogo|talk]])</small> 10:20, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

*{{remove}} - No need for the image to still be around. If permission via OTRS is given it can be uploaded to Commons. [[User:Giggy|Giggy]]\^{[[User talk:Giggy|Talk]]} 04:37, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

*{{Remove}} — Per Giggy, no licensing, etc. <font face="Verdana,Arial,Helvetica">[[User:Monobi|<font color="limegreen">Mønobi</font>]]</font> 03:35, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

====[[:Image:Seduction wiki2.gif]]====

{{closed|deleted}}

Screenshot of a wiki which doesn't exist anymore which was part of [[Gallery of user styles]]..--<span style="color:blue;font-weight:bold;font-size:medium;font-family: Monotype Corsiva;">[[User:Cometstyles|Comet]][[User talk:Cometstyles|styles]]</span> 20:34, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

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'''deleted per consensus'''--[[User:Nick1915|Nick1915]] -^{<small> [[User_talk:Nick1915|all you want]]</small>} 00:07, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

====Error-Simple.png====

{{closed|Very clear consensus|text=

[[:Image:Error-Simple.png]], [[:Image:Answer-Simple.png]], [[:Image:Question-Simple.png]],

Totally unneeded to do this with png, it can be done with text, see [http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=WfSpecialNewImages&diff=870386&oldid=427064 this for example] (I am sure someone can do it even nicer), besides I can't even read the text on the images, best regards, --[[User:Spacebirdy|birdy <small>geimfyglið</small>]] [[User_talk:Spacebirdy|_(:>&nbsp;)=|]] [[commons:User:Spacebirdy/Myndir|<small>∇</small>]] 22:26, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

* I can read the text there but it's highly unnecessary to have such stuff as image. --[[User:Thogo|Thogo]] <small>([[User talk:Thogo|talk]])</small> 22:33, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

* '''PLEASE DO NOT DELETE!!!!''' --- And the CSS version takes like 10x the text in a page to place... when the use of a SINGLE 10 character reference makes WAY more sense. Besides, the type u have in YOUR error, has no negative space above the type and does NOT fit on a line w/ type w/o screwing up the leading... [[:Image:SampleProblem.png|Example Image that SHOULD be deleted eventually!]] I also would like to USE these images in a lot of my own pages/revisions... and wish they NOT be deleted. --- [[User:Dsgncr8or|Dsgncr8or]] 14:31, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

* delete, per thogo--[[User:Nick1915|Nick1915]] -^{<small> [[User_talk:Nick1915|all you want]]</small>} 15:06, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

* '''Delete''', these can be done <span style="padding:1px 1em; background:#006; letter-spacing:.8em; line-height:1em; color:#FFF; font-size:0.7em;">with CSS</span>. The number of characters on a page isn't important; if these are used widely (which they're not), they can be created with a [[mw:Help:Templates|template]] instead. —<small>{[[Meta:Admins|admin]]} [[User talk:Pathoschild/s|Pathoschild]] 16:20:14, 08 February 2008 (UTC)</small>

* '''delete''', per thogo --[[User:.snoopy.|.snoopy.]] [[User talk:.snoopy.|]] 07:46, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' per Pathoschild. -- [[User:Jeandré du Toit|Jeandré]], 2008-02-09[[User talk:Jeandré du Toit|t]]09:00z

*'''Delete''' - per Cometstyles....--<span style="color:blue;font-weight:bold;font-size:medium;font-family: Monotype Corsiva;">[[User:Cometstyles|Comet]][[User talk:Cometstyles|styles]]</span> 09:27, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' per Pathoschild. Text should be done with, erm, text. Create a template if appropriate. [[User:Adambro|Adambro]] 12:54, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' Seems of little use.--[[User:Cato|Cato]] 22:00, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' per Thogo and Pathoschild. I would argue Meta has no consensus to accept CC licensed material, too (we are under GFDL). And generally, if you release something under free license(s), meta is not the best destination. --[[User:Aphaia|Aphaia]] 07:04, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

:Closed by --<strong>[[user:Anonymous Dissident|<font face="Script MT Bold"><font color="DodgerBlue">Anonymous Dissident</font></font>]]</strong>[[user talk:Anonymous Dissident|^{<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:Gray">Talk</span>}]]

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====[[:Image:Number1.jpg|Number1.jpg]], [[:Image:Serjune.gif|Serjune.gif]], and [[:Image:Genderage.gif|Genderage.gif]]====

{{closed|1=Deleted, license concerns have not been addressed.|text=

[[:Image:Number1.jpg]], [[:Image:Serjune.gif]], and [[:Image:Genderage.gif]] are claimed to be copyrighted by Hitwise without a clear license, so I do not consider them safe to presume GFDL even when uploaded before 2006-12-29.--[[User:Jusjih|Jusjih]] 04:00, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

* As I stated on my user page, Hitwise generated these images specifically for the WMF and they were published in an article I wrote for the [[WQ/4/En|July, 2005 Wikimedia Quarto]]. I hope that the editors on this page are giving due process to images and, at the very least, checking to see what articles are using them before speedily deleting them. They have historical significance and there is no reason that they should be deleted. --[[User:Alterego|Alterego]] 04:14, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

*: Then what exactly is the license please? GFDL? This page is not for speedy deletion. If you provide a clear license this talk can be closed then.--[[User:Jusjih|Jusjih]] 04:34, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

*: Those images all have explicit copyright statements. --[[User:Alterego|Alterego]]

*:: We do not have attribution tag. If it is what it fits, is [[w:template:attribution]] the answer?--[[User:Jusjih|Jusjih]] 23:27, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

*:: Jusjih, Where is it said that every copyright declaration on meta or in wikimedia must be in the form of a standard "tag"? [[User:Hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]] 01:36, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

* '''Delete''' unless the copyright is made consistent with GFDL. It currently says "While you may use the image, you must explicitly note the owner of copyright"; this allows people to copy these images exactly but not to modify them.--[[User:Cato|Cato]] 21:47, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

* Copyright != License. All GFDL text and images are copyrighted, otherwise GFDL wouldn't be enforceable. What we need is for the original source to specify the license. The copyright statements on the images don't matter, since it's obviously a new enough image to fall under Berne copyright. Ask Hitwise to GFDL/CC-BY-SA the material and we're fine, otherwise... <b><i><font color="#FF00FF">~Kylu ([[User:Kylu|u]]{{!}}[[User talk:Kylu|t]]) </font></i></b> 17:20, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

* '''Delete''' he's had loads of time to fix the copyright.--[[User:Poetlister|<font color="green">Poetlister</font>]] 22:40, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

* '''Delete''' [[user:Alexanderps|Alex Pereira]] ^{[[user talk:Alexanderps|falaê]]} 01:27, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

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====[[:Image:Imagepageexample2.PNG|Imagepageexample2.PNG]], [[:Image:Imagepageexample3.PNG|Imagepageexample3.PNG]]====

{{closed|1=Deleted — <font color="#0033FF">[[User:VasilievVV|Vasil]]</font><font color="#40C040">[[User talk:VasilievVV|ievVV]]</font> 03:33, 18 April 2008 (UTC)|text=

[[:Image:Imagepageexample2.PNG]] & [[:Image:Imagepageexample3.PNG]] uploaded by [[User:Odessaukrain]]

User was warned that the upload commentary was needlessly inflammatory [http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Odessaukrain&diff=945823&oldid=793627#Image:Imagepageexample2.PNG] however instead of replying and correcting the issues, he removed my note [http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Odessaukrain&diff=947907&oldid=945823]. I'd be happy, personally, with proper sourcing and licensing and some community support explaining to Odessaukrain that this sort of behavior is not acceptable. Thanks. <b><i><font color="#FF00FF">~Kylu ([[User:Kylu|u]]{{!}}[[User talk:Kylu|t]]) </font></i></b> 23:44, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

* '''Delete''' if the copyright status of the source novel is not well explained.--[[User:Jusjih|Jusjih]] 00:43, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

* '''Strong Keep''' What does my comments have to do with the copyright status of an image? This just shows how ridiculous and empty this entire copyright process is. Kylu never mentioned where I can find these copyright tags.[http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Odessaukrain&diff=945823&oldid=945822] There is no mention on this page where to find these tags.

* <p>Here is some more "inflammatory" comments, Kylu: Is it obvious that I have no respect for your pushy power trips, Kylu?</p><!--

--><p>Maybe someone can get of their ass and help me add the correct tag? Instead Kylu wants to exert a little authority against other users. He wastes massive amounts of time to threaten me on my page, put two tags on the images I uploaded, and add a deletion request here.</p><!--

--><p>Jusjih, how long would it take you to add the correct tag?</p><!--

--><p>'''Tell me which tag add and I will''', then get out of my way and go harass someone else.</p><!--

--><p>I will let other wikisusers, who have never sat foot in a law classroom play copyright police and harass others, contributing nothing to this project when they do. I simply want to add content to this project. [[User:Odessaukrain|Odessaukrain]] 18:33, 7 April 2008 (UTC)</p>

*: Review the image upload comments:

*:# Imagepageexample2, uploaded as: ''This is an image which I created. If you are an deletion nazi, f*** you.''

*:# Imagepageexample3, uploaded and subsequently commented as: ''This is an image which I created. If you are an deletion nazi, f*** you, you probably never took a intellectual property rights class in your life, and deleting images is a way for you to forget your miserable, marginalized existence.''

*: You've marked both here as "public ___domain" which, as it contains as a derivative form the complete work of art inset as well as being a screenshot of GFDL software, is clearly not public ___domain. You did not create the contents of the first screenshot at all, nor did you create the majority of the second screenshot.

*: Also, the ''help'' pages are replicated (upon request) to Wikimedia projects, however the images are not. A new project copying the help page as-is to their own project will notice the images lacking: Replicated images should be stored on [[commons:|Wikimedia Commons]] instead.

*: Lastly in regards to these images, it's the uploader who is obliged to provide the source information and license. I didn't mention tagging, just source and license. Prettying up the page with tags can be corrected by those interested in doing so, but you do need to provide both sets of information for the images to stay put.

*: While you're certainly free to make what comments you'd like[http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Odessaukrain&oldid=949330#Images_previously_mentioned.], comments such as these do not further anyone's goals nor do they constructively contribute to the project. Furthermore, your assumptions on the higher education (or lack thereof) of others does you little good in the eyes of the community. While I ''have'' taken IP law courses in college, I would not feign encyclopedic knowledge of the sort that pays the six- and seven-figure incomes of IP attorneys, whereas you seem to feel free to do the same. Please reconsider your stance and attempt to assist on Meta cooperatively with others, not in conflict with them. Finally, comments such as [http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Image:Imagepageexample2.PNG&diff=949346&oldid=949336] [http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Image:Imagepageexample3.PNG&diff=949345&oldid=948425]''what a fucking waste of my time'' are indicators that, perhaps, some real-life stresses are building up and you should consider taking a break from editing for a bit. I'd rather not see someone clearly interested in assisting the project unable to contribute due to on-wiki breakdown. Thanks in advance for your cooperation. <b><i><font color="#FF00FF">~Kylu ([[User:Kylu|u]]{{!}}[[User talk:Kylu|t]]) </font></i></b> 20:10, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

*'''Speedy''' Unused images, copyright status uncertain (specially the image included), and inflammatory sayings in the comment. I also would recommend to put a block on the uploader due to vandalism. --[[User:Aphaia|Aphaia]] 15:41, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

:In fairness, Imagepageexample3.PNG is used on [[Help:Image page]], as added by uploader. I can see a similar picture as useful, if we can move to an image page including a free image (instead of this one. Looks like an illustration from a Marcia Willett book.) I might suggest he look at image pages on [[:commons:|Commons]] and upload the image there, that way it would: 1) be a known good properly licensed image, and 2) would be available to all wikis, not just Meta. If Odessaukrain can add the metadata description to add to the pic, so much the better. <b><i><font color="#FF00FF">~Kylu ([[User:Kylu|u]]{{!}}[[User talk:Kylu|t]]) </font></i></b> 17:51, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

* '''Delete''' per Jusjih.--[[User:Poetlister|<font color="green">Poetlister</font>]] 22:41, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

* '''Delete''' [[user:Alexanderps|Alex Pereira]] ^{[[user talk:Alexanderps|falaê]]} 01:27, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

* '''Delete''' per nom. [[User:Huji|Huji]] 17:44, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

* '''Delete''' per nom. --<span style="color:blue;font-weight:bold;font-size:medium;font-family: Monotype Corsiva;">[[User:Cometstyles|Comet]][[User talk:Cometstyles|styles]]</span> 21:32, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

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====[[:Image:Or-res.jpg]]====

{{closed|1=Deleted as non-free. It's an old bid, so it's not dangerous to delete it. It may be restored after Meta EDP will be accepted — ''[[User:VasilievVV|VasilievV]]'' ^{[[User talk:VasilievVV|2]]} 08:27, 17 May 2008 (UTC)|text=

Tagged as speedy, tag removed, re-tagged as speedy. Under the circumstances should be brought here for the views of the community. I am merely bringing it here, not voting. Thanks --[[User:Herbythyme|<font color="green">Herby</font>]] <b>^{<small><span style="color:#90F">[[User talk:Herbythyme|talk thyme]]</span></small>}</b> 13:55, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

*'''Note:''' discussion is {{on hold}} until we accept EDP — '''<font color="#0033FF">[[User:VasilievVV|Vasil]]</font><font color="#40C040">[[User talk:VasilievVV|ievVV]]</font>''' 15:20, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' Herbythyme's approach seems sensible. As the user who nominated this for speedy deletion, I do of course still suggest it should be deleted. With regards to this particular image, the uploader has provided details of the source but not made any comment about the licensing situation and the source website doesn't state that this is freely licensed. As such I consider that this is likely an unfree image and therefore not permitted by [[WM:IP]] based upon the points I've described and the widespread (ab)use of unfree images in Wikimania bids. [[User:Adambro|Adambro]] 14:22, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

* '''Keep'''. We should keep as a whole the Wikimania bid. If you delete images describing the bid, then you damage the document provided to the jury and to the community. [[User:Anthere|Anthere]] 23:15, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

*:The problem with that is you're saying it is okay to use unfree images in Wikimania bids, I'd very much disagree. In the case of this image and the no doubt many others like it, there is no reason why a link couldn't be provided to the appropriate website, something which wouldn't overly inconvenience anyone. That remains the case now just as when a bid was being made. We shouldn't be allowing the use of unfree images anywhere on WMF projects where their use cannot be reasonably justified. [[User:Adambro|Adambro]] 23:39, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

*'''Keep''' per Anthere--[[User:Nick1915|Nick1915]] -^{<small> [[User_talk:Nick1915|all you want]]</small>} 02:03, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

*'''Keep''' per Anthere. --[[User:Aphaia|Aphaia]] 07:15, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

*Keep, per Anthere. --[[User:Thogo|Thogo]] <small>([[User talk:Thogo|talk]])</small> 07:27, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

*'''Comment''' Here are four other images tagged by Adam that I deleted per [[WM:IP]]: [[:Image:Harvard-campus-map.gif]], [[:Image:Hilton BA.jpg]], [[:Image:Hlsmap.gif]], [[:Image:Int-res.jpg]]. Note to RfD closer: if the consensus is to keep the images, please restore these four as well. <font face="georgia"><span style="background:#E0FFFF;color:#007FFF">[[User:Nishkid64|Nishkid64]] ([[User talk:Nishkid64|talk]])</span></font> 09:21, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

**I agree with Adam's rationale. I fail to see why pictures for a Wikimania bid should be exempt from our "no unfree content" policy on Meta. <font face="georgia"><span style="background:#E0FFFF;color:#007FFF">[[User:Nishkid64|Nishkid64]] ([[User talk:Nishkid64|talk]])</span></font> 09:24, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

*'''Comment''' Could I ask that anyone who has or intends to vote keep that they explain whether their position relates to this particular instance and is intended to maintain the bid as is or saying that they think it is okay to decorate Wikimania bids with unfree images. The problem with simply saying "Keep per Anthere" is that I've already tried to provide a response to the points she made so it would only be right to expand your keep vote to explain why my comments have been dismissed. I note that my actions in raising issue with this and the image below have prompted Anthere to propose an [[Meta:EDP|EDP]] to allow us to use unfree content on Meta and whilst I appreciate the discussions on this issue, I don't think an appropriate EDP would permit the use of this image and until it does, per the Foundation resolution, we can't host unfree content here. I'd therefore suggest we concentrate on developing an EDP as appropriate rather than focusing on this images. [[User:Adambro|Adambro]] 14:31, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' - I agree with Anthere to some extent: having such an image can help the document provided to the jury and to the community; however, having a non-free image for this reason is not the solution. [[User:Huji|Huji]] 15:18, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete'''; this image could feasibly be replaced by a free image, could it now? In that case I see no reason to be using nonfree stuff in this way. ''[[user:giggy|giggy]]'' _{([[user talk:giggy|:O]])} 01:46, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' I can understand bending the rules a bit for upcoming bids, but once that year's decision has been made, they can be purged (and replaced with freely-available images once the event happens). [[User:EVula|EVula]] <span style="color: #999;">// [[User talk:EVula|talk]] // [[User:EVula/admin|<span style="color: #366;">&#9775;</span>]] //</span> 17:57, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

}}

====[[:Image:Burg koenigstein.jpg]]====

{{closed|1=Already deleted.|text=

I removed the no source tag as a source is given (and interwiki link), however I don't see how this image is useful for Meta. Maybe Commons, but unused and seemingly useless here. ''[[user:giggy|giggy]]'' _{([[user talk:giggy|:O]])} 02:05, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

*'''Comment''' I've now tagged it for speedy deletion since it is on Commons with the same name so there appears to be no reason to keep it here also. [[User:Adambro|Adambro]] 08:09, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

*And it's been deleted by -[[User:Spacebirdy|Spacebirdy]]. ''[[user:giggy|giggy]]'' _{([[user talk:giggy|:O]])} 10:16, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

}}

====[[:Image:Interior BACC.jpg]]====

{{closed|1=image deleted. [[User:EVula|EVula]] <span style="color: #999;">// [[User talk:EVula|talk]] // [[User:EVula/admin|<span style="color: #366;">&#9775;</span>]] //</span> 04:02, 28 August 2008 (UTC)|text=

is claimed PD but without such evidence at the source website. The same Commons image is tagged no permission for the same reason as well.--[[User:Jusjih|Jusjih]] 17:05, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete.''' Unless further info is provided by the uploader, in addition to permission verification (preferably through the image at Commons). [[User:Cirt|Cirt]] 20:02, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

*'''Comment''' I've asked Meno25 who tagged the image as public ___domain to clarify this situation but in the absence of any response I would support the deletion. [[User:Adambro|Adambro]] 20:31, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

*I agree with Adambro. No evidence of PD, and I don't think fair use could be rationalised here. If it is found to be free, I suggest it be deleted here and maintained on Commons. —'''[[user talk:giggy|Giggy]]''' 08:03, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

**I just deleted the Commons version as [http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Image%3AInterior_BACC.jpg Missing essential information: source, license and/or permission] after seven days. I suggest we '''delete''' this one too. —'''[[user talk:giggy|Giggy]]''' 08:31, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' - per Cirt above - [[User:Alison|<span style="color:#FF823D;font-family:Monotype Corsiva">'''A<font color="#FF7C0A">l<font color="#FFB550">is</font>o</font>n'''</span>]] ^{[[User talk:Alison|❤]]} 08:54, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' per the copyright arguments and anyway we don't need it on Meta as well as Commons.--[[User:Poetlister|<font color="green">Poetlister</font>]] 15:16, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

*'''Comment'''. The deletion of copyrighted images used in Wikimania bids, such as this one [http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikimania_2007%2FAlexandria&diff=1147216&oldid=1103346], does mean that the bid page is a less accurate record of the quality of the original bid. The historical nature of meta has been advanced in the past as a reason to keep such material despite copyright problems and I am surprised not to see this raised here. Is meta now at the stage where we are willing to delete unfree content even when this makes it difficult to keep archived bids as they were? If so, then I suspect there are a lot of similar illustrative images in Wikimania bids that will need to be considered. <strong style="font-variant:small-caps">[[User:WJBscribe|WJBscribe]] [[User talk:WJBscribe|(talk)]]</strong> 18:15, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

:I am not sure what went on for [http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikimania_2007%2FAlexandria&diff=1147216&oldid=1103346 those images], but in this particular case it does look like [[User:Adambro|Adambro]] has attempted to get further information regarding the image's copyright status. I agree with Adambro and [[User:Giggy|Giggy]] that if clarification is not provided, and further info on the image's copyright status is not given, then it should be deleted. [[User:Cirt|Cirt]] 18:56, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

*'''Comment''' Meta is a collaborative wiki, not a republication wiki. Although it's not private, the material on Meta is intended for use among the community, for dissemination and discussion. Archival discussions are important because they demonstrate where we came from, and we may draw on those for where we're going. Since the material on Meta is not/has no intention of being reused, any discussion about the removal of images should be focused on usefulness to Meta, removing if not-useful and tagging the images properly as free or non-free if they are. [[User:Bastique|Cary Bass]] ^{[[User talk:Bastique|demandez]]} 19:33, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

:I do not disagree with what you just said, but that should specifically be explained and outlined on a page locally on Meta somewhere, so that these types of discussions don't repeat themselves in the future. [[User:Cirt|Cirt]] 19:47, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

}}

====[[:Image:Simonbolivarbhouse.jpg]]====

{{closed|1=image deleted|text=

[Wrong File]

Hello, I had several wikis open and uploaded the image to meta instead of commons, please delete: Image:Simonbolivarbhouse.jpg . Thanks.--[[User:DamianFinol|DamianFinol]] 21:29, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

: {{done}} - --<span style="color:blue;font-weight:bold;font-size:medium;font-family: Monotype Corsiva;">[[User:Cometstyles|Comet]][[User talk:Cometstyles|styles]]</span> 21:35, 8 October 2008 (UTC)}}

===Miscellaneous===

==Kept==

===Articles===

==== [[Right to vanish]] ====

{{closed|Speedily kept|text=

As the page points out, the "right to vanish" is not a right - nor is this a policy. It is, however, being enforced as if it were a policy, much to the benefit of trolls and vandals. Let's rid ourselves of it. --[[User:Palnatoke|Palnatoke]] 21:21, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

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'''Speedily kept''' - this is a core principle of wiki-existence, and there is already overwhelming consensus to keep it. -[[user:Anonymous Dissident]] 05:15, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

}}

====[[Wikiprograms]]====

{{closed|1=Kept — [[User:VasilievVV|VasilievVV]] 04:52, 28 February 2008 (UTC)|text=

An old proposal that never got any attention or even any discussion. Only one user commented on it. They said, "Is this not just sourceforge?" and the author never responded. [[User:Zenwhat|Zenwhat]] 23:39, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

*'''Keep''' For archival purposes and historical interest, meta community have kept new project proposals. I think it a good tradition as well as completely compatible with meta purpose for project coordination with brain storming. This request is somehow trolling imho. --[[User:Aphaia|Aphaia]] 00:55, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

*'''keep''' - Per Aphaia...--<span style="color:blue;font-weight:bold;font-size:medium;font-family: Monotype Corsiva;">[[User:Cometstyles|Comet]][[User talk:Cometstyles|styles]]</span> 01:01, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

*'''keep''' - Per Aphaia. --[[User:.snoopy.|.snoopy.]] [[User talk:.snoopy.|]] 08:04, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

*'''Keep''' per Aphaia, though I don't quite see the request as trolling. [[User:EVula|EVula]] <span style="color: #999;">// [[User talk:EVula|talk]] // [[User:EVula/admin|<span style="color: #366;">&#9775;</span>]] //</span> 16:40, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

**Well I could have assume a good faith but it is difficult to see his other submission and voting just before this nomination. They seems to me "oppositions for opposition".--[[User:Aphaia|Aphaia]] 19:00, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

***???

:Aphaia, I found this while surfing [[Special:Random]]. I was looking for stuff I could copy-edit and\or nominate for RfD. See my thread here: [[Meta:Babel#How can I help?]]

:Please, assume good faith. Even for blocked users. Thank you. [[User:Zenwhat|Zenwhat]] 09:14, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

*keep, normally such things are not deleted ~ --[[User:Spacebirdy|birdy <small>geimfyglið</small>]] [[User_talk:Spacebirdy|_(:>&nbsp;)=|]] [[commons:User:Spacebirdy/Myndir|<small>∇</small>]] 11:09, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

*'''keep''' per Aphaia--[[User:Nick1915|Nick1915]] -^{<small> [[User_talk:Nick1915|all you want]]</small>} 11:44, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

*'''Keep''' per Aphaia, but I will assume good faith on Zenwhat's part. [[User:Keilana|Keilana]]<nowiki>|</nowiki>^{[[User talk:Keilana|Parlez ici]]} 00:54, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

* '''Keep''', per Aphaia. [[user:Alexanderps|Alex Pereira]] ^{[[user talk:Alexanderps|falaê]]} 17:47, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

*'''Keep''' per Aphaia. [[User:Huji|Huji]] 22:06, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

*'''Keep''' Aphaia is as incisive as always.--[[User:Poetlister|<font color="green">Poetlister</font>]] 13:09, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

*'''Keep''' - Per [[User:Aphaia|Aphaia]]. <font face="Lucida Calligraphy"><b>[[User:Greeves|Greeves]]</b></font> ^{([[User talk:Greeves|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Greeves|contribs]])} 23:03, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

}}

====[[Slavopedia]] and its subpages====

{{closed|1=Kept <font face="georgia"><span style="background:#E0FFFF;color:#007FFF">[[User:Nishkid64|Nishkid64]] ([[User talk:Nishkid64|talk]])</span></font> 03:28, 2 March 2008 (UTC)|text=

This is a portal that was created to foster cooperation between Wikipedias in Slavic languages using the constructed language Slovio (see http://www.slovio.com/ ), but it seems that its usage and maintenance is next to zero. I don't even think that it has any historical interest. --[[User:Amire80|Amir E. Aharoni]] 07:39, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

*'''Keep''' - If such an interest in uniting the Slavic languge Wikipedias has taken place once, it can happen again too. Why should they reinvent the wheel then? We can keep it for them. :) [[User:Huji|Huji]] 22:08, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

*'''Comment''' I won't oppose if those Slavic Wikimedians want to delete them. However I think an attempt of such a cross-language coordination as a historical interest. --[[User:Aphaia|Aphaia]] 01:32, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

*'''Keep''' This is an interesting idea and may be used for other groups of languages such as Finnish and its relatives.--[[User:Poetlister|<font color="green">Poetlister</font>]] 13:11, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

*'''Keep''' as a Slavic Wikimedian :) --[[User:Dungodung|<span style="color:blue;">'''FiLiP'''</span>]] [[User talk:Dungodung|'''¤''']] 13:15, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

*'''Keep''', per Dungodung. [[user:Alexanderps|Alex Pereira]] ^{[[user talk:Alexanderps|falaê]]} 14:54, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

*'''Keep''' ----<strong>[[user:Anonymous Dissident|<font face="Script MT Bold"><font color="DodgerBlue">Anonymous Dissident</font></font>]]</strong>[[user talk:Anonymous Dissident|^{<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:Gray">Talk</span>}]] 07:44, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

*'''Keep''' per Huji. Renewed interest could occur. [[User talk:J-stan|<strong><font color="Black">''Jus</font><font color="Red">tin''</font></strong>]]_{[[User:J-stan|(u)]]} 23:26, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

}}

====[[Post-Deletionism]]====

{{closed|1=<big>KEPT</big> per consensus.--[[User:Alnokta|Alnokta]] 13:59, 21 May 2008 (UTC)|text=

Was [http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Post-Deletionism&diff=892708&oldid=857845 nominated] by anonymous — ''[[User:VasilievVV|VasilievV]]'' ^{[[User talk:VasilievVV|2]]} 15:10, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

: '''Keep'''; harmless fun IMO. But hey, the irony is mildly amusing. :-) [[User:Jdforrester|James F.]] [[User talk:Jdforrester|(talk)]] 17:31, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

*'''Keep''', that's quite funny actually. Without a reason to delete provided by the IP, I see no reason to do so. [[User:Daniel|Daniel]] ([[User talk:Daniel|talk]]) 01:14, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

*'''Keep''', funny, harmless, and no reason to delete. ''[[user:giggy|giggy]]'' _{([[user talk:giggy|:O]])} 01:19, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

* '''Keep''', per all above. - _{[[user talk:Innv|~]]}<small>[[User:Innv|Innv]]</small>^{[[s:ru:user talk:Innv|s:]]} 08:33, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

* '''Keep''' Per Giggy. ++[[User:Lar|Lar]]: [[User_talk:Lar|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Lar|c]] 23:58, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''', meta is not a repository of bad jokes and nonsense. -- [[User:Jeandré du Toit|Jeandré]], 2008-05-18[[User talk:Jeandré du Toit|t]]10:54z

*'''Keep''' - also noting that the above is wrong. Meta isn't just for documentation; it's also for the expression of what it is to be a Metapedian. ----<strong>[[user:Anonymous Dissident|<font face="Script MT Bold"><font color="DodgerBlue">Anonymous Dissident</font></font>]]</strong>[[user talk:Anonymous Dissident|^{<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:Gray">Talk</span>}]] 12:03, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

*'''Keep''' - cute and funny :) ...--<span style="color:blue;font-weight:bold;font-size:medium;font-family: Monotype Corsiva;">[[User:Cometstyles|Comet]][[User talk:Cometstyles|styles]]</span> 14:10, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

* '''Keep''' - Per all above. <font face="Lucida Calligraphy"><b>[[User:Greeves|Greeves]]</b></font> ^{([[User talk:Greeves|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Greeves|contribs]])} 21:54, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

}}

====[[Proposals for new projects]]====

{{closed|1='''kept''' per consensus. <font face="georgia"><span style="background:#E0FFFF;color:#007FFF">[[User:Nishkid64|Nishkid64]] ([[User talk:Nishkid64|talk]])</span></font> 16:27, 8 June 2008 (UTC)|text=

Nothing ever seems to be made from this page. It seems to be useless. If people want to start new projects, they can make the proposal on its own page, and not a hugely long one that no one ever looks at.

*'''Delete''' '''[[User:Majorly|<span style="font-family:verdana; color:#B05427">Majorly</span>]]''' ^{''[[User talk:Majorly|<span style="color:black">talk</span>]]''} 15:34, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

*'''Keep''', historical. --[[User:Ooswesthoesbes|OosWesThoesBes]] 15:37, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

* '''Transwiki to the null.wikimedia.org''' <small>= delete</small> — ''[[User:VasilievVV|VasilievV]]'' ^{[[User talk:VasilievVV|2]]} 15:39, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

* '''Keep''' as historical unless merged to the current archives (if exist). --[[User:Aphaia|Aphaia]] 16:00, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

*'''Tag as historical'''. There does seem to be some interesting history in this page but I think Majorly is right that people looking to propose new projects are now better directed elsewhere. <span style="font-family: Verdana">[[User:WJBscribe|'''WjB'''scribe]]</span> 19:46, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

*'''Keep''' as historical [[User:Huji|Huji]] 20:05, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

*'''Keep''', historical. --<span style="color:blue;font-weight:bold;font-size:medium;font-family: Monotype Corsiva;">[[User:Cometstyles|Comet]][[User talk:Cometstyles|styles]]</span> 21:17, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

*'''Historical''' per most of the above. ''[[user:giggy|giggy]]'' _{([[user talk:giggy|:O]])} 08:05, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

*'''Keep''' per giggy & Comets --[[User:Herbythyme|<font color="green">Herby</font>]] <b>^{<small><span style="color:#90F">[[User talk:Herbythyme|talk thyme]]</span></small>}</b> 08:14, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

*'''Keep''' as historical. [[User:Korg|Korg]] 09:44, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' - keeping it a historical makes it seem like you can't do it any more. [[Special:Contributions/86.162.25.76|86.162.25.76]] 12:09, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

**Above, but actually signed in... [[User:Microchip08|Microchip08]] 12:10, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

*'''Keep''', tag as historical, for the sake of the record. '''[[User:Singularity|<font color="black">Singu</font>]][[User talk:Singularity|<font color="black">larity</font>]]''' 06:21, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

* '''Keep''', per Cometstyles. --_{[[user talk:Innv|~]]}<small>[[User:Innv|Innv]]</small>^{[[s:ru:user talk:Innv|s:]]} 07:39, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

* '''Keep''' per Aphaia.--[[User:Poetlister|<font color="green">Poetlister</font>]] 12:01, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

*'''Keep''' per Ooswesthoesbes. [[User:Cirt|Cirt]] 12:04, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

*'''Keep''' but make it clear that new proposals belong elsewhere.--[[User:Cato|Cato]] 16:31, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

}}

====[[Poles are evil]]====

{{closed|text=

'''No consensus.''' Currently, 62% of people want this page gone, excluding my vote. In reality, there really is not consensus for the deletion of this file. So, the article will remain by default. --<strong>[[user:Anonymous Dissident|<font face="Script MT Bold"><font color="DodgerBlue">Anonymous Dissident</font></font>]]</strong>[[user talk:Anonymous Dissident|^{<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:Gray">Talk</span>}]] 06:17, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

:A.D., Just in case somebody else starts this discussion all over again next month, let me put some flesh on your close. First of all, this is a discussion, not a vote. Secondly, most of the arguments of the list of "delete" at the beginning were invalidated or at best shown to be limited. And then, at the end, editors became reluctant to support deletion. [[User:Hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]] 08:32, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

----

*old deletion requests, see top of [[Talk:Poles are evil]]

The article is neither funny nor educating nor historical, but offending (and yes 'polls' were meant)... It is continuosly visited by obviously offended readers, who "vandalize" there, imho understandable. I therefore would suggest to delete the page or at least change the title to something not offending, thanks, --[[User:Spacebirdy|birdy <small>geimfyglið</small>]] [[User_talk:Spacebirdy|_(:>&nbsp;)=|]] [[commons:User:Spacebirdy/Myndir|<small>∇</small>]] 01:10, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

*'''delete''' per nom, --[[User:Spacebirdy|birdy <small>geimfyglið</small>]] [[User_talk:Spacebirdy|_(:>&nbsp;)=|]] [[commons:User:Spacebirdy/Myndir|<small>∇</small>]] 01:10, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

*'''delete''' - bad humour, offends a culture and I prefer [[Polls are evil]] which is basically what people should be looking at..--<span style="color:blue;font-weight:bold;font-size:medium;font-family: Monotype Corsiva;">[[User:Cometstyles|Comet]][[User talk:Cometstyles|styles]]</span> 01:55, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

*'''delete''' per nom. '''[[User:Monobi|Monobi]]''' (''[[User talk:Monobi|talk]]'') 02:07, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

*'''delete''' It's not even funny... --[[User:Werdan7|Werdan7]]^{[[User_talk:Werdan7|T]] [[Special:Emailuser/Werdan7|@]]} 02:34, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' Some parodies are funny; others are tasteless. This is the latter. -- [[User:Avraham|Avi]] 04:50, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

*'''delete''' — The title would be mildly funny in a talk page post (and would still be inappropriate in most contexts). I'm amazed this has lingered for most of 4 years. Post-delete, redirect as a possible spelling mistake. Cheers, [[User:Jack Merridew|Jack Merridew]] 05:51, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

*'''delete'''. I am surprised that this has been discussed before and kept. It is tasteless and inappropriate. --[[User:Bduke|Bduke]] 07:40, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete'''; most Poles aren't evil. (In seriousness, I agree with the above.) ''[[user:giggy|giggy]]'' _{([[user talk:giggy|:O]])} 09:08, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' - In simple words: ''Poles are evil'' is evil! [[User:Huji|Huji]] 11:32, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' - They may hold buildings up, they are not evil. [[User:Soxred93|Soxred93]] 13:34, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' Yup, I don't see why this should be here more or less just offending to a culture. --[[User:Kanonkas|Kanonkas]] 19:50, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' Of little benefit at all. --<strong>[[user:Anonymous Dissident|<font face="Script MT Bold"><font color="DodgerBlue">Anonymous Dissident</font></font>]]</strong>[[user talk:Anonymous Dissident|^{<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:Gray">Talk</span>}]] 11:18, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' - not amusing, just insulting. <span style="font-family: Verdana">[[User:WJBscribe|'''WjB'''scribe]]</span> 23:59, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' - just junk, I'm afraid - [[User:Alison|<span style="color:#FF823D;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;cursor:help">'''A<font color="#FF7C0A">l<font color="#FFB550">is</font>o</font>n'''</span>]] ^{[[User talk:Alison|❤]]} 08:04, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

*'''Wait''': The author claims to be Polish and the article Polish humour. I would like to request the comments from a few Polish folks and that everybody be aware of cultural differences and not to jump into judgement. - Hillgentleman, 20080621191533

*'''Keep'''. Per arguments in the last few votes of deletion (this is what? the fifth?), before this new generation bandwagon started rolling. To clarify: as a Pole I find it funny and not the least offensive (although sometimes maddeningly true). Sigh.--[[User:Piotrus|Piotrus]] 20:57, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

*Let me comment from a Pole's point of view: I find this page hilarious and in no way insulting (most do, actually, but that requires you to know the background). The assumption that it's being "continuously" vandalize is patently false - since the last edit in February, the page has been attacked only three times by '''the same IP''', which only somehow seems to have triggered this discussion. If you don't understand it, it's not a reason at all to delete it, or dismiss as "junk". Absolutely '''keep''' - this has become an important part of wiki culture (it's also massively referenced from en.wiki). [[User:Misza13|Миша]][[User talk:Misza13|<span style="color:green">'''13'''</span>]] 20:58, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

*'''Keep'''. Not offending at all; pure nonsense and self-criticism are not unknowne to Poles ;-) [[User:Picus viridis|Picus viridis]] 21:05, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

*'''Strong keep''', it's actually quite funny page. Especially rule #2, but that requires that you know what it refers to, heh. I find it quite funny that non-Poles want this page to be deleted while Poles find it funny and amusing. --[[User:Roosa|<b>Roosa</b>]] _{([[User talk:Roosa|<font color="hotpink">Talk</font>]])} 21:10, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

*'''Keep''' . seriously, if the Poles themselves like it, I don't see how there's a problem. [[User:Pinky49|Pinky49]] 21:16, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

*'''Keep''' It sure is historical - as one of most beloved article in Category:Humor, as one of most disputed article on Meta, thus the most frequently listed on [[WM:RFD]]. It is a self-referential joke so I understand not everyone grasps the point, and anyway you won't be able to stand against the Polish community consensus. I bet someone already canvassed this vote on Polish community and this discussion will soon be turned over with land-sliding supports of Poles. --[[User:Aphaia|Aphaia]] 21:18, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

*'''Keep''' nice --[[User:Wyksztalcioch|Wyksztalcioch]] 21:25, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

*'''Keep listing it for deletion''' to keep them busy proving that Poles are evil. --[[User:Matthead|Matthead]] 21:46, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

* '''Delete''' - As per nom. Is this a vote? --[[User:Emesee|Emesee]] 21:57, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

*'''Comment'''. Being a Pole I have been [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:How_to_deal_with_Poles/Archive_1#Wish_you_were_here expressly offended] by this article until I realized that it is there to stay with prior three unsuccessful [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meta:Requests_for_deletion/Archives/2006/01#How_to_deal_with_Poles RFDs on record.] Only then I chose to perform [http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Poles_are_evil&diff=827458&oldid=824918 a deep copyedit] last January in such a way as to alleviate most of my negative feelings and, I put away the equally offending discussion into an archive. As it stands, the content no longer offends me, however, I’m aware of further negative reactions coming from a lot of reasonable sounding people. I’d say, if my personal opinion counts, in spite of all the work I put into this article to try to make it sound a bit more fun and witty, please go ahead and '''do away with it''' if you can. Even the mere title I'd prefer became an object of an edit war [http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Poles_are_evil&diff=860795&oldid=857354 against my wishes.] --[[User:Poeticbent|<font face="Papyrus" color="darkblue"><b>Poeticbent</b></font>]] [[User_talk:Poeticbent|<small><font style="color:#FFFFFF;background:#FF88AF;border:1px solid #DF2929;padding:0.0em 0.2em;">talk</font></small>]] 22:23, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

*'''Keep''' per the Polish users above who think the others are being a bit thin-skinned about it all. Disclaimer: Ja nie Polski, ale jest to bardzo ciekawy język. Dodatkowe Disclaimer: Tak, to był tłumaczony przez komputer, więc jego straszliwe gramatyki i dziwne frazy. <b><i><font color="#FF00FF">~Kylu ([[User:Kylu|u]]{{!}}[[User talk:Kylu|t]]) </font></i></b> 23:01, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

* '''Delete''' Kylu's argument is unconvincing.--[[User:Cato|Cato]] 23:02, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

* '''Delete'''. Quote Misza13: ''"Let me comment from a Pole's point of view: I find this page hilarious and in no way insulting"''. No wonder, since it's as clear as daylight that this isn't about Poles at all. Instead, it's an inverted complaint by Poles about being treated particularly unfairly by others. Such whiney laments only contribute to the image of the Polish community of Wikipedia as nasty and difficult to work with, so they would be much better off without it. However, I'm pretty sure it will survive this vote thanks to a strange coalition of "patriotic" Poles and non-Poles who like to frame them as exactly that, namely "patriotic" hot-heads. ;) --[[User:Thorsten1|Thorsten1]] 17:59, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

* '''Keeep''' - how many times it was saved from deletion? [[User:Radomil|Radomil]] 19:21, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

* '''Keep''' - Again? Some of you have too much time on their hands, I guess. Anyway, actually it's one of the most important historical pages on Meta and had you been over here for some time you would know it. If I were to decide, I would just move it to ''How to deal with Poles'' and revert it to some older, IMHO better version. [[User:Aegis Maelstrom|aegis maelstrom]] [[User talk:Aegis Maelstrom|δ]] 20:19, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

*'''Keep''' - Polish users I know are just as amused by this as I am. -- [[User:Manticore|<span style="color:black">'''Manticore'''</span>]] [[User talk:Manticore|<span style="color: black">(talk)</span>]] 05:04, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

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==== [[Configurable Sidebar]] ====

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We don't have information about Sidebar on Meta, because it is moved to MediaWiki's wiki (see [[Help:Navigation bar]]). Why then do we need to keep the related discussion on meta? I propose this discussion to be moved to the talk page of the appropriate page on MediaWiki wiki and deleted form Meta. [[User:Huji|Huji]] 16:05, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

:Request was withdrawn after significant change in the page content. Result was '''keep'''. [[User:Huji|Huji]] 20:05, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

*Imported to MediaWiki.org — ''[[User:VasilievVV|VasilievV]]'' ^{[[User talk:VasilievVV|2]]} 21:00, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

*Delete, unless anyone's got a use for it being here? [[User:Kylu|Kylu]] 21:59, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

*Should really be transwikied and speedy-deleted. '''[[User:Majorly|<span style="font-family:verdana; color:#B05427">Majorly</span>]]''' ^{''[[User talk:Majorly|<span style="color:black">talk</span>]]''} 22:07, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

*'''Keep''' - like [[:Category:Moved to MediaWiki|all the others]] we have...--<span style="color:blue;font-weight:bold;font-size:medium;font-family: Monotype Corsiva;">[[User:Cometstyles|Comet]][[User talk:Cometstyles|styles]]</span> 22:41, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

*'''Keep''' as cross-wiki redirect. <span style="font-family: Verdana">[[User:WJBscribe|'''WjB'''scribe]]</span> 15:42, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

*'''Keep''', per [[User:WJBscribe|WJBscribe]]. [[User:Cirt|Cirt]] 19:25, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

*I think it is important to note that the current state of this page is quite different to that when Huji nominated it for deletion. As is normal practice with other pages moved to MediaWiki, this page should in my opinion be '''Kept''', perhaps Huji might reconsider based upon the current state. [[User:Adambro|Adambro]] 21:09, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

*Yeah, this is not what was nominated; it's since been imported. '''Keep''' the redirect anyway. —'''[[user talk:giggy|Giggy]]''' 05:01, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

I'm withdrawing the request, '''closing it as keep''', because I'm fine with the new version of this page. I'm closing this RfD at the same time. [[User:Huji|Huji]] 20:04, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

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==== [[Context]] ====

There are only two edits to this page, the second only marking it as uncategorized. This page contains non-notable information that falls outside the scopes of Meta. [[User:Huji|Huji]] 16:09, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

:'''Moved to user namespace'''. [[User:Huji|Huji]] 12:29, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' no use --[[User:Mardetanha|<font face="Rage Italic" size="4" style="color:#000000;color:black"><i>Mardetanha</i></font>]] ^{<span style="font-family:Italic;color:black">[[user_talk:Mardetanha|talk]]</span>} 21:09, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

*'''Userify''' it to Quinobi's userspace. He might be going somewhere with it in a manner falling under the inclusion policy. [[User:Kylu|Kylu]] 21:59, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' It is nothing to do with our projects, and at any rate should be in userspace. '''[[User:Majorly|<span style="font-family:verdana; color:#B05427">Majorly</span>]]''' ^{''[[User talk:Majorly|<span style="color:black">talk</span>]]''} 22:08, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

*'''Speedy delete''' - No context ...--<span style="color:blue;font-weight:bold;font-size:medium;font-family: Monotype Corsiva;">[[User:Cometstyles|Comet]][[User talk:Cometstyles|styles]]</span> 22:42, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' Out of project scope. --[[User:Kanonkas|Kanonkas]] 15:00, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' - completely exterior from what meta is about. ----<strong>[[user:Anonymous Dissident|<font face="Script MT Bold"><font color="DodgerBlue">Anonymous Dissident</font></font>]]</strong>[[user talk:Anonymous Dissident|^{<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:Gray">Talk</span>}]] 15:08, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

*Move to user space. [[User:Hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]] 16:31, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

*'''Speedy delete''', agree with [[User:Cometstyles|Cometstyles]]. [[User:Cirt|Cirt]] 19:24, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

* Move to userspace. [[User:Emesee|Emesee]] 20:20, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

*Considering he started it in 2004, I'd have hoped he'd have finished work on it by now. Assuming he has, it's not appropriate for Meta, so '''delete'''. —'''[[user talk:giggy|Giggy]]''' 05:02, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

*:Maybe he's just slow? :) [[User:Kylu|Kylu]] 20:33, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

*:I'm slow, but I can get things done in four years! :-) —'''[[user talk:giggy|Giggy]]''' 06:14, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

*'''Userfy''' - per Kylu - [[User:Alison|<span style="color:#FF823D;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;cursor:help">'''A<font color="#FF7C0A">l<font color="#FFB550">is</font>o</font>n'''</span>]] ^{[[User talk:Alison|❤]]} 08:02, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

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{{closed|text= No consensus so '''Keep'''

:Closed by [http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Meta:Requests_for_deletion&diff=1097872&oldid=1097802 Cometstyles]. —'''[[user talk:giggy|Giggy]]''' 15:06, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

====[[Content disclaimer parody]]====

Very old page but seems to have no use.so i think it is proper to Delete this article--[[User:Mardetanha|<font face="Rage Italic" size="4" style="color:#000000;color:black"><i>Mardetanha</i></font>]] ^{<span style="font-family:Italic;color:black">[[user_talk:Mardetanha|talk]]</span>} 19:36, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

* {{Keep}} per [[wikt:ROFL|ROFL]] — ''[[User:VasilievVV|VasilievV]]'' ^{[[User talk:VasilievVV|2]]} 20:30, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

*'''Keep''' it's funny. '''[[User:Majorly|<span style="font-family:verdana; color:#B05427">Majorly</span>]]''' ^{''[[User talk:Majorly|<span style="color:black">talk</span>]]''} 20:51, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

*Keep --[[User:Elassint|Elassint]] 20:53, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

* ''The Wikiwikipedia's meta-article namespace is cluttered with nonsense posturing such as this page.''..thats sums it up {{keep}} ..--<span style="color:blue;font-weight:bold;font-size:medium;font-family: Monotype Corsiva;">[[User:Cometstyles|Comet]][[User talk:Cometstyles|styles]]</span> 23:25, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

*'''Keep''' - I lol'd - [[User:Alison|<span style="color:#FF823D;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;cursor:help">'''A<font color="#FF7C0A">l<font color="#FFB550">is</font>o</font>n'''</span>]] ^{[[User talk:Alison|❤]]} 02:16, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

*Keep; perhaps not the most useful page in the world, but I'm sure there's a hidden meaning. Somewhere. And it's funny. :-) —'''[[user talk:giggy|Giggy]]''' 05:11, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

*I think this is an example of the humor pages we '''keep'''. [[User:Huji|Huji]] 17:14, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''', meta is not a repository of bad jokes and nonsense. -- [[User:Jeandré du Toit|Jeandré]], 2008-07-20[[User talk:Jeandré du Toit|t]]17:12z

*'''Delete''' per Jeandré. Funny perhaps but I can't say that I come to Meta for humour. I'm not sure this page being funny would be an appropriate reason to keep it anyway. [[User:Adambro|Adambro]] 18:56, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

*{{remove}} per Jeandré and Adambro, not really that funny and has no links to it anyway so just dump it. --[[en:User:MarsRover|MarsRover]] 19:30, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

*'''Strong Delete''' How is this article funny, in my view some of the words used are offensive, as Jeandré stated meta isn't a repository and must be moved elsewhere off this site. [[User:Dark Mage|<strong><font color="Black">Dark</font><font color="Red"> Mage</font></strong>]] 19:37, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''', unnecessary. [[User:Nakon|<font color="#CC5500">'''Nakon'''</font>]] 20:07, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

* I'd rather '''keep''' the parody. Although I don't find it especially funny, I think that there is no problem in keeping it as another humor page. Offensive words are okay too, but I would like to get "Wikiwikipedia" replaced by something less allusive (a stupid example: "Shmekipedia"). — <small>[[User:Kalan|Kalan]] [[User talk:Kalan|?]]</small> 10:21, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

*{{Keep}}, as parody/historical. [[User:Cirt|Cirt]] 21:45, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

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{{closed|text= No Consensus, '''Keep'''

:Closed by [http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Meta:Requests_for_deletion&diff=1097873&oldid=1097872 Cometstyles]. —'''[[user talk:giggy|Giggy]]''' 15:06, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

==== [[Wikimedians who use a regular computer]] ====

Maybe I am missing something but this seems to lack any real useful purpose in furthering the work of Wikimedia project contributors. [[User:Adambro|Adambro]] 20:20, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

*Keep - it's a fun page. If we were without humour, we'd probably be less willing to contribute. '''[[User:Majorly|<span style="font-family:verdana; color:#B05427">Majorly</span>]]''' ^{''[[User talk:Majorly|<span style="color:black">talk</span>]]''} 20:25, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

*:There are some great examples of humorous pages on Meta, details of the manufacturer of some user's computers doesn't seem to be one of them in my opinion. [[User:Adambro|Adambro]] 20:37, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

*Delete. Agree that fun is good, but I don't see what good this page is doing. Maybe because I use a laptop. —'''[[user talk:giggy|Giggy]]''' 06:14, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' - it's not ''that'' funny and I'm failing to see the value of this to the project - [[User:Alison|<span style="color:#FF823D;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;cursor:help">'''A<font color="#FF7C0A">l<font color="#FFB550">is</font>o</font>n'''</span>]] ^{[[User talk:Alison|❤]]} 08:03, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

*Interesting demographic data. [[User:Hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]] 01:31, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

*Although it seems pointless, I find it harmless, and would rather '''keep''' it. [[User:Huji|Huji]] 17:11, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

* Tend to agree with Huji. '''sort of keep''' [[User:Emesee|Emesee]] 20:01, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

*{{remove}} utterly useless information. -[[en:User:MarsRover|MarsRover]] 19:38, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

*Delete per alison--[[User:Mardetanha|<font face="Rage Italic" size="4" style="color:#000000;color:black"><i>Mardetanha</i></font>]] ^{<span style="font-family:Italic;color:black">[[user_talk:Mardetanha|talk]]</span>} 08:48, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''', agree with [[User:Giggy|Giggy]]. [[User:Cirt|Cirt]] 03:19, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

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====[[Tell us about Northern Sami Wikipedia]]====

{{closed|1=Those commenting did not agree that the content was of no use. Keep for now. <strong style="font-variant:small-caps">[[User:WJBscribe|WJBscribe]] [[User talk:WJBscribe|(talk)]]</strong> 04:53, 8 November 2008 (UTC)|text=

No useful content. The creator of this page is not a contributor to the Northern Sami Wikipedia, see [[se:Special:Contributions/M.M.S.]], according to [[User:M.M.S.|his user page]], he does not even speak Northern Sami.--[[User:Johannes Rohr|Johannes Rohr]] 15:34, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

*'''Keep''' – It seems useful as it is. Additionally, this could be developed more in the future. [[User:Emeseee|Emesee]] 18:56, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

: In my understanding, the title "Tell us about your Wikipedia" implies, that the questionnaires should be filled out by active contributors of the respective Wikipedia, not by random passers by, who do not even speak the language, in this case by a twelve year old Swedish boy who is best know for his many bogus proposals such as for a Wikipedia in Cyrillic Swedish. I doubt that he qualifies as a reliable source for information on the Northern Sami Wikipedia. --[[User:Johannes Rohr|Johannes Rohr]] 22:05, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

*I understand that the page may be out of date or inaccurate to some extent, and it may provide very little information. However, I'm not convinced that it is ''wrong enough'' to be a candidate for deletion. So '''keep''' for now. [[User:Huji|Huji]] 19:11, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

*'''Keep''' for now, needs to be developed further, might delete if nothing happens in a month or so ...--<span style="color:blue;font-weight:bold;font-size:medium;font-family: Monotype Corsiva;">[[User:Cometstyles|Comet]][[User talk:Cometstyles|styles]]</span> 21:34, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

*'''Comment'''. [[Tell us about your Wikipedia]] does not say that you must speak the language to contribute. It could, but it doesn't, and a discussion of whether it ought to would best be held at [[Talk:Tell us about your Wikipedia]]. [[User:Chick Bowen|Chick Bowen]] 01:27, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

*'''Keep.''' Agree with above rationale provided by {{user1|Emeseee}} and {{user1|Cometstyles}} - could be useful at some point, but keep for now. Could be deleted later on. '''[[User:Cirt|Cirt]]''' ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 22:26, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

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{{closed|text=Kept, but I think following Spacebirdy's solution would be for the best. If she herself would be kind enough to do this, I'd be most grateful. &mdash;<strong>[[user:Anonymous Dissident|<font face="Script MT Bold"><font color="#344D69">Anonymous Dissident</font></font>]]</strong>[[user talk:Anonymous Dissident|^{<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:Gray">Talk</span>}]] 14:16, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

=== [[Wörter, die nicht in Wikipedia stehen sollten]] (words that should not exist in wikipedia) ===

die liste fuehrt derzeit viel zu viele woerter an, die ueberhaupt nicht fuer schlechten stil stehen bzw. fuer deren nicht-gebrauch es keinen konsens gibt. die liste bietet dagegen die moeglichkeit fuer sprachpuristen, unliebsame woerter als "boese" abzustempeln, da offenbar zu wenig kontrolle erfolgt. aus [[de:WP:WSIGA]] wurde die verlinkung auf die liste bereits gestrichen, siehe [[de:Wikipedia_Diskussion:Wie_schreibe_ich_gute_Artikel#Wortwahl:_Blacklist_unenzyklop.C3.A4discher_W.C3.B6rter.3F|DS]]. -- [[User:Lustiger seth|seth]] 00:34, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

*Vorschlag: Man könnte auch die Liste durch einen Link zu der wesentlich sinnvolleren Lektuere [[de:Wikipedia:Wie schreibe ich gute Artikel]] ersetzen, denn eventuell gibt es ja noch andere Seiten von auszerhalb, welche auf die Meta-Seite verlinken, lG. --[[User:Spacebirdy|<font color="black">birdy</font> <small style="color:gray">geimfyglið</small>]] [[User talk:Spacebirdy|<sub style="color:teal">(:>&nbsp;)=|</sub>]] 17:24, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

:da habe ich nix dagegen. ich lass jetzt trotzdem mal den LA bestehen, weil's ja einer loeschung gleichkaeme. falls jemand der meinung ist, dass ein LA hierfuer nicht mehr noetig ist, koennen wir den aber auch gerne vorzeitig abschliessen und einfach Spacebirdys vorschlag umsetzen. -- [[User:Lustiger seth|seth]] 18:04, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

::DO keep this list. It is helpful for bots in spotting articles that need attention. It cannot be replaced by Prose about good articles, which is a quite different field. --[[User:Purodha|Purodha Blissenbach]] 02:30, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

::can you specify which bots use it in which way? until now, the title is "words which should not occur in wikipedia" and there's nothing said about bots, which use that list. -- [[User:Lustiger seth|seth]] 08:28, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

*As a note: it'd be useful if we could have a translation of that text into English, so that a wider audience can comment on this request. &mdash;<strong>[[user:Anonymous Dissident|<font face="Script MT Bold"><font color="#344D69">Anonymous Dissident</font></font>]]</strong>[[user talk:Anonymous Dissident|^{<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:Gray">Talk</span>}]] 05:22, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

**I understand, however, probably this problem is very specific to the German speaking people. A rough translation:

***''seth requests deletion: the list has too many words that are not used for bad style or there is no consens for their non-usage. The link to the list had been deleted from the given link in de.wiki already.'' <small>corrected. -- [[User:Lustiger seth|seth]] 00:03, 28 November 2008 (UTC)</small>

***''spacebirdys suggest: replace the list with a link to the much more informative article on de.wiki how to write a good article.''

***''seth agrees but keeps the rfd open to let others comment''

***<the rest is in English anyway>

**best regards, --[[User:Spacebirdy|<font color="black">birdy</font> <small style="color:gray">geimfyglið</small>]] [[User talk:Spacebirdy|<sub style="color:teal">(:>&nbsp;)=|</sub>]] 23:20, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

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{{closed|text=Even barring my own commentary, it is fairly clear that this is a keep. &mdash;<strong>[[user:Anonymous Dissident|<font face="Script MT Bold"><font color="#344D69">Anonymous Dissident</font></font>]]</strong>[[user talk:Anonymous Dissident|^{<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:Gray">Talk</span>}]] 05:33, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

===[[Friends of gays should not be allowed to edit articles]]===

I am tagging this article as requiring deletion. I am aware now, that its ''supposed'' to be humorous, but even so, I consider the title (and content, to an extent) to be offensive. The page has previously been marked with a humor tag at the top, this has been removed more than once. You don't get to find out its humor until you reach the bottom. Homophobic, the creator is not, I grant you. However, in this case, if its not clearly marked as humor at the top, it needs to go. [[User:Iceflow|Iceflow]] 23:23, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

*No, it's funny. The humour is ruined by adding the template at the top. The boilerplate should to at the bottom (though I prefer the custom text) and perhaps at the top of the talk page. &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;<b style="color:#309;">[[User:Mike.lifeguard|Mike]].[[User talk:Mike.lifeguard|lifeguard]]</b>&nbsp;&#124;&nbsp;^{[[:b:en:User talk:Mike.lifeguard|<span style="color:#309;">@en.wb</span>]]} 23:27, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

*Wikimedia projects have an interesting tendency to attract the GLBT crowd, and many (many!) of us have read the article and chuckled at it. I'd like to '''leave it as-is''', myself. [[User:Kylu|Kylu]] 01:43, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

*It's the umpteenth time that this page is here... '''keep''' and please...--[[User:Nick1915|Nick1915]] -^{<small> [[User_talk:Nick1915|all you want]]</small>} 02:24, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

*'''Keep''' - but I disagree with Mike.lifeguard in regards to the placement of the boilerplate. I also would note that perhaps a rename is necessary. This page has been requested for deletion numerous times, and I'd suggest that it is likely because of its title; while the content is not meant to be inflammatory, the title as it stands without the text of the page behind it could be construed as inflammatory. I mean, after all, the title itself is making a statement that has none of the page's context to explain what it means. &mdash;<strong>[[user:Anonymous Dissident|<font face="Script MT Bold"><font color="#344D69">Anonymous Dissident</font></font>]]</strong>[[user talk:Anonymous Dissident|^{<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:Gray">Talk</span>}]] 03:46, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

*:Apparently you haven't read it then. The argument that friends of gays shouldn't be allowed to edit articles is ''the basic joke''. The rest, while entertaining, is frosting on the cake. So, the title makes perfect sense and doesn't need to be changed at all. Per Kylu and Nick, we should consider a ban on nominating this page for deletion<!--I am only half joking here. Seriously, this is a ridiculous RFD.--> &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;<b style="color:#309;">[[User:Mike.lifeguard|Mike]].[[User talk:Mike.lifeguard|lifeguard]]</b>&nbsp;&#124;&nbsp;^{[[:b:en:User talk:Mike.lifeguard|<span style="color:#309;">@en.wb</span>]]} 03:55, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

*:Yes, actually, I have read it. In my opinion, the "friends of gays" part is a footnote, really. One of the boldened examples in the second section. I suppose our interpretations differ. &mdash;<strong>[[user:Anonymous Dissident|<font face="Script MT Bold"><font color="#344D69">Anonymous Dissident</font></font>]]</strong>[[user talk:Anonymous Dissident|^{<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:Gray">Talk</span>}]] 04:19, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

::C'mon - the boilerplate on top spoils most of the fun (unless it's intended as a very ironical way of making fun of Political Correctness... ...which IMO would be more offensive than the title). [[User:Finnrind|Finn Rindahl]] 20:22, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

* '''Keep'''. The humour is obvious from the first paragraph. If some users are incapable of understanding satire, this will be an important part of their education. I'm not aware of anyone having died of misplaced offense, so I see no need to soften or delete the page to protect users' delicate sensibilities. —<small>[[User talk:Pathoschild/s|Pathoschild]] 04:05:38, 29 November 2008 (UTC)</small>

* '''Strong keep''' It's pure, harmless fun. I cannot imagine anyone taking that page seriously, much less being offended by it. [[User:J.delanoy|<font color="green">J'''.'''delanoy</font>]][[User Talk:J.delanoy|^{<font color="red">gabs</font>}]][[Special:Contributions/J.delanoy|<font color="blue">_adds</font>]] 20:04, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

*'''Keep''' On behalf of Anita Flugelhorn, [[User:Finnrind|Finn Rindahl]] 20:22, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

* '''Strong keep''': Per the above. A little humor is a wonderful thing. --[[User:MZMcBride|MZMcBride]] 20:27, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

* '''Strong Keep''' Wikipedia needs humor and badly. Iceflow, I see where you're coming from, but it seems we're worried people will be offended rather than responding to actual offense. I feel no harm is being done here and the humorous intent of the article is more than clear. [[User:FlyingToaster|FlyingToaster]] 20:47, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

* '''Delete only if''' Anita Flugelhorn comes on and says that she feels that the article offends her in any way or '''Strong Keep''' if she doesn't ....Its a known fact that people on wikimedia rarely have a sense of humour and I'm only mentioning wikimedia because non-wmf wikis are sometimes hilarious. Try to get the joke instead of trying to read it out of context ...--<span style="color:blue;font-weight:bold;font-size:medium;font-family: Monotype Corsiva;">[[User:Cometstyles|Comet]][[User talk:Cometstyles|styles]]</span> 21:16, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

:Ehem, [http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Friends_of_gays_should_not_be_allowed_to_edit_articles&diff=prev&oldid=756562] Delete then? [[User:Finnrind|Finn Rindahl]] 21:35, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

:well sarcasm doesn't count ....--<span style="color:blue;font-weight:bold;font-size:medium;font-family: Monotype Corsiva;">[[User:Cometstyles|Comet]][[User talk:Cometstyles|styles]]</span> 22:20, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

*Keep and leave it as it is. And archive this discussion appropriately, and leave a proper link on the [[talk:Friends of gays should not be allowed to edit articles]] so that it doesn't get carelessly listed again. [[User:Hillgentleman|Hillgentleman]] 05:57, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

*:Pathoschild has added that to the talk page, and (thankfully!) reduced the boilerplate. &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;<b style="color:#309;">[[User:Mike.lifeguard|Mike]].[[User talk:Mike.lifeguard|lifeguard]]</b>&nbsp;&#124;&nbsp;^{[[:b:en:User talk:Mike.lifeguard|<span style="color:#309;">@en.wb</span>]]} 17:33, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

*'''Keep''' - I, Anita Flugelhorn, appreciate a good roll in the hay every once in a while with another woman. I also like good satire which doesn't harm the project. [[User:Neurolysis|Anita_F]] (aka <font face="Trebuchet MS"><b>&mdash; [[User:Neurolysis|neuro]]</b>^{<i>[[User talk:Neurolysis|(talk)]]</i>}</font>) 16:01, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

*'''Keep''', this says it all: ''"Note that there are almost no vandalism instances that say, "I AM VERY GAY" or "I, Anita Flugelhorn, appreciate a good roll in the hay every once in a while with another woman." It can be inferred that gays and lesbians are exceptionally good Wikipedia contributors, and only some of their very proud but misguided acquaintances feel the need to broadcast their friends' sexual orientation.''" If you are not able to appreciate the humour in it, then I suggest returning yourself to the factory with your warranty to get your humour chip replaced. ;D [[User:Mathmo|Mathmo]] 01:03, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

*'''Keep'''. Lighthearted essay that has been on meta a long time. <strong style="font-variant:small-caps">[[User:WJBscribe|WJBscribe]] [[User talk:WJBscribe|(talk)]]</strong> 20:30, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

* '''Keep''' FUNNY :) [[User:Bastique|bastique]] ^{[[User talk:Bastique|demandez!]]} 21:33, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

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{{closed|text='''Kept''' as no one other than the nom would like the deletion.--[[User:Jusjih|Jusjih]] 19:29, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

===[[IRC channels/wikipedia-en-admins/Policy ratification]]===

Meta users aren't interested in enwiki's drama/power games on IRC. Also suggesting [[IRC channels/wikipedia-en-admins|this]] be deleted. There's a perfectly good set of pages in Cbrown1023's userspace on enwiki that should be used instead. '''[[User:Majorly|<span style="font-family:verdana; color:#B05427">Majorly</span>]]''' ^{''[[User talk:Majorly|<span style="color:black">talk</span>]]''} 23:46, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' As nom. '''[[User:Majorly|<span style="font-family:verdana; color:#B05427">Majorly</span>]]''' ^{''[[User talk:Majorly|<span style="color:black">talk</span>]]''} 23:46, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

:Isn't this more of a "move wiki request" rather than a straight delete? After all, you're asking that it goes in enwiki space instead. -- [[User:Tawker|Tawker]] 23:49, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

::Yes, but it has no place here. Hence, delete. '''[[User:Majorly|<span style="font-family:verdana; color:#B05427">Majorly</span>]]''' ^{''[[User talk:Majorly|<span style="color:black">talk</span>]]''} 23:51, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

*'''Keep''': Given that it is related to an IRC channel which is related to Wikimedia, I see no reason to delete it, unless of course there is some reason to delete [http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3APrefixIndex&from=IRC&namespace=0 all of these pages] as well (I only use this argument because I really don't understand why IRC related stuff doesn't belong on meta). - [[User:Rjd0060|Rjd0060]] 23:52, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

**The other channels (#wikipedia, #wikipedia-en etc) are open to all users, regardless of status. This channel is for a group on enwiki, who have admin status. I don't see why it deserves a page, or why a vote on whatever you're voting on needs to take place here, when there's perfectly good space to do it on enwiki. '''[[User:Majorly|<span style="color:black">talk</span>]]''</sup> 23:55, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

***Plenty of private channels, like #wikimedia-checkuser and #wikimedia-admin, are listed and discussed on here. '''<font color="#ff9900">[[User:Krimpet|krimpet]]</font><font color="#ff6699">[[User talk:Krimpet|✽]]</font>''' 02:17, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

****All which are designed for multiple projects. This is for ''English Wikipedia'' primarily. '''[[User:Majorly|<span style="font-family:verdana; color:#B05427">Majorly</span>]]''' ^{''[[User talk:Majorly|<span style="color:black">talk</span>]]''} 02:43, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

*Keep. We're inter-project here, to serve all projects. Any project which has a problem, they're welcome to ask for help here. I've suggested, in the past, that projects with voting issues on RfAs use Meta so local checkusers and stewards may more transparently and easily assist. This page seems more of the same. Also, given that the channel does have sysadmins/staff members and stewards as welcome members (which this page is clarifying), I think it is of concern to more than just enwiki. Were ru.wikiquote or nl.wiktionary to wish to do similarly, I would have the same opinion on the matter. [[User:Kylu|Kylu]] 00:04, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

**Wait. Are you comparing Wikimedia's largest project to nl.wiktionary? If so, I have to tell you, they aren't comparable. Enwiki is able to fix its own IRC problems. If we have this "voting" page, why not have ''all'' the pages over here? Why is it just the one? It doesn't make sense. Either have them all on enwiki, or none at all. Meta people won't be interested in your voting. The only people who this is of interest to is the ops, who are all active on enwiki. '''[[User:Majorly|<span style="font-family:verdana; color:#B05427">Majorly</span>]]''' ^{''[[User talk:Majorly|<span style="color:black">talk</span>]]''} 00:16, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

***Yes, actually. The size of the project does not directly correspond to its importance: Frankly, I see that as an English-centric viewpoint that does not belong on Meta. Additionally, there are a wide variety of pages on en.wikipedia that more properly belong on Meta (SQL query documentation, rights documentation, to name two examples) which we should import here. If a project has need of Meta, I feel it's Meta's responsibility to do its part to assist that project in whatever way we can. Mail list descriptions are hosted here, even private enwiki ones. Why should other protocols be treated differently? [[User:Kylu|Kylu]] 02:17, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

****I'm fine with it being listed, but it doesn't need its own page. We don't need your power game politics from your silly channel on here. Take it back to enwiki. '''[[User:Majorly|<span style="font-family:verdana; color:#B05427">Majorly</span>]]''' ^{''[[User talk:Majorly|<span style="color:black">talk</span>]]''} 02:44, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

*****lol. [[User:Rjd0060|Rjd0060]] 02:54, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

******In response to your edit summary, I'm not kidding. This channel has caused far too many problems; it's useful only to chanops, who can look at it on enwiki. No one other than the channel regulars care how it's run. '''[[User:Majorly|<span style="font-family:verdana; color:#B05427">Majorly</span>]]''' ^{''[[User talk:Majorly|<span style="color:black">talk</span>]]''} 03:05, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

*******Go over to "your" wikipediareview, or ask Giano or Irpen on en.wikipedia. There ''are'' quite a few people who are concerned at how the channel is run but are not regulars. Usually when the goings-on there affect them. [[User:Kylu|Kylu]] 05:51, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

* '''Keep''': If anything, move the pages from Casey's userspace to here. No harm in having Meta be useful. ;-) --[[User:MZMcBride|MZMcBride]] 02:08, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

*'''Keep'''. Most IRC coordination takes place on Meta. '''<font color="#ff9900">[[User:Krimpet|krimpet]]</font><font color="#ff6699">[[User talk:Krimpet|✽]]</font>''' 02:17, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

*'''Keep''': may be useful here though I suspect its well suited for [[w:WP:IRC|WP:IRC]] and I think its about time we started moving IRC related stuff to meta and maybe one day have an IRC Namespace...--<span style="color:blue;font-weight:bold;font-size:medium;font-family: Monotype Corsiva;">[[User:Cometstyles|Comet]][[User talk:Cometstyles|styles]]</span> 03:02, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

**An "IRC" namespace might be a bit restrictive for future expansion. There are also other protocols and sites that may well deserve mention. Permanent Skype conversations, maillists, newsgroups, SVN sites... all of which may merit retention and documentation here, and yet don't ideally belong in mainspace. Any ideas? [[User:Kylu|Kylu]] 03:21, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

***I'd have to agree; a separate namespace solely for IRC seems strange. The namespace wouldn't ever have much potential, and it gives undue weight to IRC. &mdash;<strong>[[user:Anonymous Dissident|<font face="Script MT Bold"><font color="#344D69">Anonymous Dissident</font></font>]]</strong>[[user talk:Anonymous Dissident|^{<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:Gray">Talk</span>}]] 03:30, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

****Yeah, namespace is a silly idea, where do you come up with such crap Cometstyles but I do think we may need a new namespace for everything/chat not related to a wiki such as Kylu mentioned, just needs a cool yet appropriate name which will include mailing lists, chats either IRC or skype, groups etc ..--<span style="color:blue;font-weight:bold;font-size:medium;font-family: Monotype Corsiva;">[[User:Warpath|War]][[User talk:Warpath|path]]</span> 04:33, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

*A namespace for IRC is a bad idea. But I agree with Majorly here - IRC information specific to enwiki should probably go there. I also agree with Kylu that there is lots of documentation on enwiki (whether in the Wikipedia or Help namespaces) which should more properly be located here. Meta, a Wikimedia project coordination wiki, does not need this page, since it is not to do with coordinating Wikimedia projects. &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;<b style="color:#309;">[[User:Mike.lifeguard|Mike]].[[User talk:Mike.lifeguard|lifeguard]]</b>&nbsp;&#124;&nbsp;^{[[:b:en:User talk:Mike.lifeguard|<span style="color:#309;">@en.wb</span>]]} 04:24, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

**Do we take this as a delete? &mdash;<strong>[[user:Anonymous Dissident|<font face="Script MT Bold"><font color="#344D69">Anonymous Dissident</font></font>]]</strong>[[user talk:Anonymous Dissident|^{<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:Gray">Talk</span>}]] 04:45, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

*:Yes, this should be moved to enwiki. &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;<b style="color:#309;">[[User:Mike.lifeguard|Mike]].[[User talk:Mike.lifeguard|lifeguard]]</b>&nbsp;&#124;&nbsp;^{[[:b:en:User talk:Mike.lifeguard|<span style="color:#309;">@en.wb</span>]]} 17:31, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

* Majorly is mistaken (on several counts) in his nomination. In particular, #wikipedia-en-admins is not exclusively about the English Wikipedia (though primarily so), and so I placed the pages here as enwiki would be inappropriate. [[User:Jdforrester|James F.]] [[User talk:Jdforrester|(talk)]] 21:59, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

**It's primarily English Wikipedia admins though. That's who it's created for. That you allow in a few guests (stewards, devs, whatever) isn't really relevant. Most who want access to the channel are admins on enwiki anyway. Others prefer to stay out. It's an English Wikipedia channel, for English Wikipedians, run by English Wikipedians, with English Wikipedia topics, so English Wikipedia is where it belongs. What else am I wrong about in my nomination? '''[[User:Majorly|<span style="font-family:verdana; color:#B05427">Majorly</span>]]''' ^{''[[User talk:Majorly|<span style="color:black">talk</span>]]''} 23:08, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

*Keep. Strikes me as ill advised to try to chase it off Meta for no good reason. ++[[User:Lar|Lar]]: [[User_talk:Lar|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Lar|c]] 04:29, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

*'''Keep''', pages on en-wiki belong on meta. It is here to serve all wikis, just because en-wiki has pages doesn't mean others can't as well. [[User:Mathmo|Mathmo]] 01:07, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

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===Templates===

====[[Template:PCP-header]]====

{{closed|1=Kept — ''[[User:VasilievVV|VasilievV]]'' ^{[[User talk:VasilievVV|2]]} 08:30, 17 May 2008 (UTC)|text=

I feel that this template is unnecessary because on the top of every proposal for closing a project you can see "The result is KEEP" or "The result is CLOSE" or nothing; then you know the discussion has not ended yet. --<small>[[User:MF-Warburg|MF-W]]</small> 14:38, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

:This template categorize all proposals! '''[[User:M.M.S.|<span style="color:red;">M.</span>]][[User_talk:M.M.S.|<span style="color:green;">M.</span>]][[Special:Contributions/M.M.S.|<span style="color:blue;">S.</span>]]''' 07:33, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

*'''Keep''' Not everyone (like those unfamiliar with Wikipedia) who looks at a proposal for project closing will know whether discussion is ongoing. This is just a friendly little banner that clarifies just that. <font face="georgia"><span style="background:#E0FFFF;color:#007FFF">[[User:Nishkid64|Nishkid64]] ([[User talk:Nishkid64|talk]])</span></font> 09:18, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

*'''Keep''' I agree with Nishkid. Please bear in mind that proposal about closure of projects attract users of other wikis to Meta, and such templates can help them find their way better in Meta in their first experiences here. [[User:Huji|Huji]] 15:14, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

*'''Keep''' Meta needs to be a bit more accessible than most other wikis, so this template has a place. [[User:EVula|EVula]] <span style="color: #999;">// [[User talk:EVula|talk]] // [[User:EVula/admin|<span style="color: #366;">&#9775;</span>]] //</span> 16:04, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

*'''Keep''' - I too agree with Nishkid. This template serving as a helping guide for those unfamiliar with Meta should be kept for that role. [[User:Rudget|<span style="color:#171788;font-weight:bold">Rudget</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Rudget|.]] 18:53, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

*'''Keep''' We use similar templates on EN:WQ and people find them helpful.--[[User:Poetlister|<font color="green">Poetlister</font>]] 11:14, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

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===Categories===

===Images===

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*'''Call to withdrawal''' per the above comments. ----<strong>[[user:Anonymous Dissident|<font face="Script MT Bold"><font color="DodgerBlue">Anonymous Dissident</font></font>]]</strong>[[user talk:Anonymous Dissident|^{<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:Gray">Talk</span>}]] 08:41, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

:'''Seconded'''--[[User:Poetlister|Poetlister]] 16:47, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

::'''Thirded''' <small> I wish that was a word:P </small>..--<span style="color:blue;font-weight:bold;font-size:medium;font-family: Monotype Corsiva;">[[User:Cometstyles|Comet]][[User talk:Cometstyles|styles]]</span> 11:09, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

:::'''Fourthed''' <small>On Meta, we don't need real words.</small> <font face="Lucida Calligraphy"><b>[[User:Greeves|Greeves]]</b></font> ^{([[User talk:Greeves|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Greeves|contribs]])} 16:34, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

====[[:Image:QuickWMS Screenshot.jpg|QuickWMS Screenshot.jpg]]====

{{closed|1=Speedy kept, no reason to delete — <font color="#0033FF">[[User:VasilievVV|Vasil]]</font><font color="#40C040">[[User talk:VasilievVV|ievVV]]</font> 15:21, 9 April 2008 (UTC)|text=

[[:Image:QuickWMS Screenshot.jpg]] is used in a few articles with external links not declaring GFDL-compatible permission.--[[User:Jusjih|Jusjih]] 04:34, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

* QuickWMS itself (and the screenshoots too ;-)) is '''LGPL, '''--[[User:Arcy|Arcy]] 11:33, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

*: We do not have LGPL tag, but we have [[Template:GPL]], but I am unsure of the differences.--[[User:Jusjih|Jusjih]] 23:27, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

*: It seems that everyone who makes any modification must add his or her name to the copyright licence.--[[User:Cato|Cato]] 21:49, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

*:: You never ''have'' to add your name to the license, but if you fail to, the preceding editor would have the rights to your addition, since you wouldn't claim ownership of your edits. Anywho, I added a LGPL template and category, changed the tagging on the page, and added a nice template-style div to the GPL template. I imagine we're cool with the image now? <b><i><font color="#FF00FF">~Kylu ([[User:Kylu|u]]{{!}}[[User talk:Kylu|t]]) </font></i></b> 22:26, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

* {{Keep}} Seems OK.--[[User:Poetlister|<font color="green">Poetlister</font>]] 22:41, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

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====[[:Image:ArticleJournalWPFinlande.jpg]]====

{{closed|1={{On hold}} till EDP accepted — ''[[User:VasilievVV|VasilievV]]'' ^{[[User talk:VasilievVV|2]]} 08:29, 17 May 2008 (UTC)|text=

As above. Tagged as speedy, tag removed, re-tagged as speedy. Under the circumstances should be brought here for the views of the community. I am merely bringing it here, not voting. Thanks --[[User:Herbythyme|<font color="green">Herby</font>]] <b>^{<small><span style="color:#90F">[[User talk:Herbythyme|talk thyme]]</span></small>}</b> 14:00, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

*'''Note:''' discussion is {{on hold}} until we accept EDP — '''<font color="#0033FF">[[User:VasilievVV|Vasil]]</font><font color="#40C040">[[User talk:VasilievVV|ievVV]]</font>''' 15:21, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' Herbythyme's approach seems sensible. As the user who nominated this for speedy deletion, I do of course still suggest it should be deleted. With regards to this particular image, the image appears to being used under a claim of fair use but again, the [[WM:IP]] doesn't permit unfree content and we can't use any fair use material without an EDP per [[foundation:Resolution:Licensing policy]] and so it should be deleted. [[User:Adambro|Adambro]] 14:22, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

* '''Keep'''. But if you do, before deleting such an image, but kind enough to save the text contained in it, which is part of our history and has given work to the translator. Before deletion, please make sure the image is saved on our internal wiki. Thanks [[User:Anthere|Anthere]] 22:54, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

** Better. I would like to ask suspension of the deletion until meta has adopted an EDP. It seems that having low quality versions of a press article talking of wikipedia on meta, could possibly fit under an EDP. [[User:Anthere|Anthere]]

**:'''Proposition for an [[meta:EDP]]'''

* '''Keep''' while I am happy to agree on the suspension proposed. I also appreciate Herby not to have the image gone just by speedy deletion. --[[User:Aphaia|Aphaia]] 07:17, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

* Keep, per Anthere and Aphaia. --[[User:Thogo|Thogo]] <small>([[User talk:Thogo|talk]])</small> 07:30, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

*'''Comment''' As per my comment above, I'd ask that we focus on discussing the proposed EDP rather than focussing on these images since without an EDP these unfree images simply cannot be kept per the Foundation resolution. [[User:Adambro|Adambro]] 14:37, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''', same as above. I wouldn't object to some undeletions taking place per Adambro once there is a stable EDP up, but that could take a while and in the meantime there is no reason for these nonfree images to be kept. ''[[user:giggy|giggy]]'' _{([[user talk:giggy|:O]])} 01:47, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

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====[[:Image:Présentation Arts et Sciences 2005.sxi]]====

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Not sure what good this is going... it seems (to me) to be inaccessible, it has a malicious software warning, and there are no pages linking to it. Feel free to correct me if there actually is a good use for it, of course. :) ''[[user:giggy|giggy]]'' _{([[user talk:giggy|:O]])} 11:06, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

*'''Comment''' - it is an Open Office presentation file I think from the extension (<small>as used by civilised folk who don't use M$ :)</small>) --[[User:Herbythyme|<font color="green">Herby</font>]] <b>^{<small><span style="color:#90F">[[User talk:Herbythyme|talk thyme]]</span></small>}</b> 11:11, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

* This is a valid presentation file that can be opened with [[w:OpenOffice.org|OpenOffice.org]], and it is not orphaned.[http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Image:Pr%C3%A9sentation_Arts_et_Sciences_2005.sxi] [[User:Korg|Korg]] 11:37, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

*Heh, shows what I know about file types (and damn, forgot to check WhatLinksHere). Closing this out. Thanks for comments everyone. ''[[user:giggy|giggy]]'' _{([[user talk:giggy|:O]])} 11:41, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

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===Miscellaneous===

==Undeleted==

====[[Template:No license]]====

{{closed|undeleted|text=

It was deleted without a clear reason, so I have doubts that its deletion was proper.--[[User:Jusjih|Jusjih]] 04:04, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

*Keep deleted. Judging by the attitude over images without licenses, I doubt this is needed. '''[[User:Majorly|<span style="color:#002bb8">Majorly</span>]]''' (''[[User talk:Majorly|talk]]'') 12:05, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

*{{comment}} It was a long time ago! We do have "no source" which appears to have been the rationale but I have no problem with it being undeleted if people think that is required - thanks --[[User:Herbythyme|<font color="green">Herby</font>]] <b>^{<small><span style="color:#90F">[[User talk:Herbythyme|talk thyme]]</span></small>}</b> 12:17, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

*'''Undelete''' - We have {{tl|no source}} as noted in the deletion log but I'd suggest that an alternative is provided for instances where the source but not the license is providing to avoid confusion. [[User:Adambro|Adambro]] 12:38, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

*'''Undelete''' - No source and no license are completely different and both temps actually complement each other, so It would be a good idea to restore it :) ..--<span style="color:blue;font-weight:bold;font-size:medium;font-family: Monotype Corsiva;">[[User:Cometstyles|Comet]][[User talk:Cometstyles|styles]]</span> 21:48, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

*'''Undelete''' per nom.--[[User:Poetlister|<font color="green">Poetlister</font>]] 17:25, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

**Purely technical question: after merger of "request for undeletion", our deletion policy says something about discussion terms? Before that, we were very relaxed to undelete thing, someone says he or she needs it, then it would be undeleted unless there is a strong argument, regardless with the term of discussion. So I prefer to undelete it for now, but hesitate at the same time. --[[User:Aphaia|Aphaia]] 05:35, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

*'''Undelete''' - per all above. There's a difference between not having a license, and not having a source, so we should have separate templates. [[User:Giggy|Giggy]]\^{[[User talk:Giggy|Talk]]} 05:57, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

*'''Undelete''' makes sense to me... --<strong>[[user:Anonymous Dissident|<font face="Script MT Bold"><font color="DodgerBlue">Anonymous Dissident</font></font>]]</strong>[[user talk:Anonymous Dissident|^{<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:Gray">Talk</span>}]] 12:54, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

*I've got to agree with Giggy that there's a difference between ''no license'' and ''no source'', and we shouldn't cloud that difference. Worst case scenario, however, we could redirect [[:Template:No license]] to [[:Template:Nosource]] and make the ''no source'' template contain information about both problems. Or just have [[:Template:Image problem]] and redirect them both. Discuss? :) <b><i><font color="#FF00FF">~Kylu ([[User:Kylu|u]]<nowiki>|</nowiki>[[User talk:Kylu|t]]) </font></i></b> 08:27, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

'''closed as undeleted.''' As I cannot really see my rationale for deleting this it seems silly to waste community time on this. If asked I'd have undeleted it anyway - it can always but offered for deletion again if folk want to -- [[User:Herbythyme|<font color="green">Herby</font>]] <b>^{<small><span style="color:#90F">[[User talk:Herbythyme|talk thyme]]</span></small>}</b> 08:34, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

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====-- April essays====

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* [[I think I'll be an antigenderist]]

* [[Anti-Semitism vs Anti-Zionism]]

I'd like to see these undeleted and moved to the userspace of [[User:-- April]], who wrote the first and created the second (an archive of an en.wikipedia talk page discussion). When in userspace, they won't be doing... whatever evil thing it was that made people delete them in the first place.

Obviously, they aren't especially related to Wikimedia, but I like them. [[User:Kate|Kate]]

:They're GFDL content - you can have a copy for your own use if you like. &nbsp;&mdash;&nbsp;<b style="color:#309;">[[User:Mike.lifeguard|Mike]].[[User talk:Mike.lifeguard|lifeguard]]</b>&nbsp;&#124;&nbsp;^{[[:b:en:User talk:Mike.lifeguard|<span style="color:#309;">@en.wb</span>]]} 04:43, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

:{{done}} per reasonable request. See [[User:-- April|-- April]]'s userpage for the corrected links. [[User:Kylu|Kylu]] 04:57, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

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