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== Platinum? ==
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this article seems to indicate platinum status in Japan is 1,000,000 sold...i thought it was 250,000(see [[gold record]])--[[LaotianBoy1991]]
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== album names ==
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I have changed the album name pages to fix with the naming standarsd set in Wikipedia policy. gren 09:27, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
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Her profile just kinda... sits there. I don't know... do we really need to know about her height and weight? It's not like she is unusually tall or anything.. although she is petite... And is her Chinese name her real name?
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I don't think ayu's really active in China. If that's not her real name it doesn't really seem necessary, in my opinion. By the way she's 5'1'' not 5'4''. [[User:Iloveayu|Iloveayu]] 02:40, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
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:I think it's fine to have the profile sitting there. People wanna know these things... Bty, her name is not chinese. The name Ayumi Hamasaki is her real name, she just changed the character she uses for her real name, to something more celerity like. <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:58.188.40.222|58.188.40.222]] ([[User talk:58.188.40.222|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/58.188.40.222|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}.</small>
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::In Japan, it's quite popular for celebrities to have measurement listings. (Or something like that). [[User:24.126.199.129|24.126.199.129]] 20:02, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
 
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i changed the picture from her A BEST cover to the cover of Popteen. I think she looks better in that picture.
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:<nowiki> i think we should update the main picture everytime a new image comes out. like if its from a magazine, or her website, or whatever. i think then people can see what Ayu looks like now, but then can look down and see other pics too.</nowiki>
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*[[User:Stzr3|Stzr3]] 02:27, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
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i hope you guys don't mind- i updated the main picture. this magazine cover is the latest magazine Ayu has been in. --[[User:Stzr3|Stzr3]] 05:50, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
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::I think magazine covers doesn't look so cute in the article, I think it should be better to put official pictures of Ayumi without those Japanese letters on it, it's just an opinion but I think it looks awful. [[User:Clouded|Clouded]] 02:50, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
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:I've been noticing the changing Ayu images, and I think it's a good idea to keep them recent (latest publicity shots, magazine covers, album covers...) because she likes to play round with her look alot. [[User:Calicore|Calicore]] 20:48, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
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::I edited the main image down to a smaller size so you can see Ayu better --[[User:Stzr3|Stzr3]] 06:37, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
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== FontSales fixfigures ==
 
Does anyone know of any sites at all that have proper archives of Ayumi's sales from Oricon? I'm working on improving the Winter diary article but the only information about its sales I have found is on a Generasia page that was updated back in 2015 literally as sale figures were updated daily by Oricon when the album first came out. I obviously can't use that source since they don't link to where the figures came from and I haven't found any archived copies of the daily sales page on the usual archive sites. Any help pointing me in a reliable direction would be much appreciated, unless no such site exists, in which case I guess I'll have to forgo a "Performance" section in the end. -- [[User:Carlobunnie|Carlobunnie]] ([[User talk:Carlobunnie|talk]]) 16:39, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
I removed the HTML font sizing, there was NO reason it needed to be that big. --[[User:Hersch|Hersch]] 06:29, 30 May 2005 (UTC)
 
== 60.94 million sales claim in lead ==
:I reverted a lot since that IP seemed to delete a lot of content... [[User:Grenavitar|gren]] 09:24, 30 May 2005 (UTC)
 
{{u|TenPoundHammer}} you rmvd the cn tag I added to the "Hamasaki has sold over 60.94 million units as of 2019" part of the first sentence of the lead's 2nd pgraph, but an unreliable chartmasters.org reference was cited in support, which was why I replaced it with the tag. Additionally, the most recent of the 4 sources at the end of the full sentence is (a dead ref) dated 2016, and the others support 50 mill sales as of 2012. What other recourse was there? Should I have just left it alone? -- [[User:Carlobunnie|Carlobunnie]] ([[User talk:Carlobunnie|talk]]) 06:33, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
== Symbol? ==
 
== Why did the main photo change? ==
Could someone explain her symbol? Is it a kanji? Has it something to do with her name? <nowiki>http://www.ayu.no/images/photoalbum/17.jpg</nowiki> Here's a photo of it. [[User:Salleman|Salleman]] 21:07, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 
Change it back to the sunglasses photo, it didn’t need to change [[Special:Contributions/2603:8000:200:20D:F9A6:E521:210E:B0A6|2603:8000:200:20D:F9A6:E521:210E:B0A6]] ([[User talk:2603:8000:200:20D:F9A6:E521:210E:B0A6|talk]]) 21:09, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
That is just a symbol of A... meaning Ayumi
 
== Merges ==
In fact it is not just a symbol of A. Avex took both roman letters A and H and morphed them together creating the image. So actually it is A+H meaning Ayumi Hamasaki. : )
 
I have merged the articles for ''Ayumi Hamasaki Arena Tour 2002 A'' and ''Ayumi Hamasaki Stadium Tour 2002 A'' because they are unreferenced and fail [[WP:NALBUM]]. If you disagree with the merges or believe you can create a better article, feel free to undo my merges.
== Discography ==
 
Should her discography become a seperate page? I think it's becoming too big with the growing number of her singles, albums, DVDs, and whatnot.
 
OH MY GOD. Who deleted the discography section? Too many false numbers? They were ALL correct!
 
I changed the discography to its original status. Please don't delete the discography. They all come from a reliable source. [[User:Iloveayu|Iloveayu]] 19:54, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
 
I fixed some errors which occured while I tried to revert the Discography. [[User:Iloveayu|Iloveayu]] 19:58, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
 
Whoa, someone put the discography section back to this article. What's going to happen to the Discography page, which is a seperate article? [[User:Iloveayu|Iloveayu]] 23:22, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
 
:The discography goes in a separate article, as it is too long for this page. You can't have two discographies, as it would be too hard to keep synchronized. -- [[User:ReyBrujo|ReyBrujo]] 01:55, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
 
== What the heck!? ==
I just entered to see the Ayumi Hamasaki to see why she's popular on the Minitokyo boards and look what I've found! Seems like the entire HTML code got jumbled up or the formatting got screwed. I can't read a thing on that page! - Acoyani Garrido Sandoval.
 
:Umm, it was vandalized and then the editor after that did something incorrect with the code, I am not sure what happened. If you read the help guide it will teach you how to revert to fix such errors. [[User:Grenavitar|gren]] 17:11, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
 
:what's with these flamers? I had some crazed loon messing up the [[Kumi Koda]] page :-S I bet there are more of them running around. [[User:Chsf|Chsf]] 20:27, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
 
== Please Help AYumi !!!!!!!!!!! ==
 
As a big fan of Ayumi Hamasaki I hope everyone who loves her will contribute bunches of her information to this page also it would be nice if the were more pictures of her albumes when you click ont he link. Arigato[[User:Fullmetal Alchemist|Fullmetal Alchemist]] 23:27, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
 
== Edited Bold & Delicious/pride ==
 
I updated Bold & Delicious/Pride Single no someone has to put in the live performances and Chart update. [[User:Fullmetal Alchemist|Fullmetal Alchemist]] 05:15 pm, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
 
 
: I usually am the one who posts the charts and the performance schedule so i will get on that :) i'm thinking about changing the set up of the chart, though. i think it's too big on the HEAVEN page, so i'm thinking about doing something like this:
Oricon Sales Chart (Japan)
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!align="left"|Release
!align="left"|Chart
!align="left"|Peak Position
!align="left"|Sales Total
!align="left"|Chart Run
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|align="left"|30 November 2005
|align="left"|Oricon Daily Singles Chart
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|align="left"|30 November 2005
|align="left"|Oricon Weekly Singles Chart
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|align="left"|30 November 2005
|align="left"|Oricon Yearly Singles Chart
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i stole it from the Namie Amuro page, but i really like the layout. because you can get a lot of info without having a huge chart. what do you think? right now i put it in the HEAVEN and Bold & Delicious/Pride pages, but I think i'm going to modify it a little more. I want to have a spot for 1st week sales and 1st week position, then do total sales and weeks on charts. or something lol
*--[[User:Stzr3|Stzr3]] 02:09, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
 
I like it it gives everyone more info on How Ayumi's songs are doing.
[[User:Fullmetal Alchemist|Fullmetal Alchemist]] 05:15 pm, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
 
Yep. I like it. -- [[User:Ayu is destiny|Winterkill]]
 
== (miss)understood ==
 
(miss)understood shouldn't be a redirect back to [[Ayumi Hamasaki]]. Someone should actually put up some information about it, because they've at least said some things about it on her official website. -- [[User:Ayu is destiny|Winterkill]]
 
Ok i worked a little on the (miss)understood page. Somebody will probably come in and finish it when the complete info is released. --[[User:Stzr3|Stzr3]] 20:56, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
 
== Added the articles. ==
 
Added the articles and tracklists for every single up to Voyage, which has already been done, along with all singles after it. The articles only contain "blahblah is the ##th single released by Ayumi Hamasaki. It was released blahblah ##, ####." So, if you want to add any more information, you can. The articles don't have pictures, either, and I'm not going to upload them. Someone else can do that. Strangely enough, someone's done the SURREAL article already without doing any of the others. Also, there's actually a real article for her "vogue" single, not just a disambiguation page that doesn't even lead to an Ayu article anyway. -- [[User:Ayu is destiny|Winterkill]] 10:15 pm, 15 December 2005 (EST)
 
== Various stuff ... ==
like plastic surgery. Well I had a small chat with a Japanese girl on one of the numerous P2P networks, and she told me that the way Ayumi looks now was not the way she looked before her ... plastic surgery. Literally "you do not want to know how she looked before that!" Is this just another unconfirmed legend or is this the truth? Japanese guys might know this better, as they can read local yellow press :D -andy [[User:80.129.82.245|80.129.82.245]] 14:04, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
 
Well, when I first saw her picture before plastic surgery she seemed like a completely different person at first, but you will realize that she still looks relatively similar after plastic surgery. And she was still pretty even before plastic surgery! I saw one of her pictures when she used to go to school which is like more than 10 yrs ago and she looked pretty good, although platic surgery did enhance her look. [[User:Iloveayu|Iloveayu]] 07:12, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
 
Ayu has '''NOT''' had plastic surgery!! the only stuff she probably has gotten done is her teeth, and that is dental work, not plastic surgery.
Look:
<nowiki>http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/1787/ayu21jx.jpg</nowiki>
Ayu looks the same as she did as a little girl. The only thing different is that she matured and now wears a lot more makeup. Her eyes and face still looks the same. --Stzr3 04:55, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
 
Well actually it's never been confirmed if it has or not. Sorry i was rude earlier :-( But Ayu never said herself and neither has her company that she has ever had any work done. Though it is definetly possible, but i think it is just the makeup and how shes matured. --[[User:Stzr3|Stzr3]] 04:22, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
 
Judge for yourself:
<nowiki>http://celebrity.com.ne.kr/yup/ko-girls2/yumi-ah.jpg</nowiki> --[[User:ISK|ISK]] 6:26 PM, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
 
Somehow she looks different on every picture-_-.. Well, until we have reliable sources regarding this, we will simply have to wait. [[User:Iloveayu|mirageinred]] 20:11, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
 
:She obviously had dental work, and (based on her unusually round eyes - which is rare for an asian person) that she's undergone an [[asian blepharoplasty]]. [[User:Calicore|Calicore]] 19:54, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
 
I agree on the dental work. However, I disagree with the blepharoplasty comment. There are plenty of pictures of her youth floating around in which her eyes seem to be as round as they are now. Also, if she were to have had that kind of surgery, it would, at the very least, have been before her days as an actress under the pseudonym Kurumi Hamazaki which would make her kind of young for plastic surgery (around the age of 15/16/17). example of how she looked when she was working as an actress: http://www.ahsforum.com/forum/showpost.php?p=922901&postcount=35 [[User:4nGeLuS|4nGeLuS]] 01:44, 30 October 2006 (GMT+1)
 
== External links ==
 
Here, too, are too many sites. Remember, [[WP:NOT#Wikipedia is not a mirror or a repository of links, images, or media files|Wikipedia is not a mirror or a repository of links]]. Although the external links aren't ruled by [[WP:WEB|web notability]], it gives an idea of whether the sites they point to are notable or not.
 
* <nowiki>http://pinkangelayu.free.fr/index.php?page=news</nowiki> 100 (site)
* <nowiki>http://www.ayumygoddess.free.fr</nowiki> 100 (site)
* <nowiki>http://www.avexnet.or.jp/ayu</nowiki> 3,207 (site)
* <nowiki>http://www.asiafinest.com/japanese/ayumi.htm</nowiki> 37,185
* <nowiki>http://ayumi.primenova.com</nowiki> 61,978
* <nowiki>http://www.teamayu.com</nowiki> 88,289
* <nowiki>http://www.eneabba.net/ayu</nowiki> 209,068 (site)
* <nowiki>http://www.ayunite.net</nowiki> 312,854
* <nowiki>http://www.ayumi-hamasaki.org</nowiki> 364,886
* <nowiki>http://ayudynasty.inc.md</nowiki> 626,825
* <nowiki>http://www.ahsforum.com</nowiki> 627,079
* <nowiki>http://peach-arrow.net/ayu/</nowiki> 750,612
* <nowiki>http://www.overstuffed-closet.net/ayumi</nowiki> 1,688,223
* <nowiki>http://www.love-ayu.com</nowiki> No data
* <nowiki>http://www.ayufreak.com</nowiki> No data
* <nowiki>http://www.ayu.no</nowiki> No data
* <nowiki>http://www.freewebs.com/ayumi-hamasaki-es</nowiki> No data
* <nowiki>http://www.freewebs.com/jewel1993</nowiki> No data
* <nowiki>http://www.jpopsubs.com</nowiki> No data
* <nowiki>http://www.ayu-hamasaki.tk</nowiki> No data
* <nowiki>http://www.freewebs.com/everywherenowhere</nowiki> No data
 
Now, I suggest removing all sites with Alexa ranking over 300,000 or no data at all, unless they have been used in the article as references (in which case they should go in the ''References'' section). Also, I believe <nowiki>http://www.teamayu.com</nowiki> should be removed because, even though it is an official fan club, it requires Flash, something [[Wikipedia:External links#What should not be linked to|it is not appreciated]].
 
Opinions? -- [[User:ReyBrujo|ReyBrujo]] 02:50, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
 
 
I think it's good you're removing some sites. There are way too many. But I have a question, what exactly is Alexa ranking? --[[User:Stzr3|Stzr3]] 05:33, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
:[[Alexa Internet|Alexa]] calculates a pseudo "ranking" for many sites. The more important the site (more visited, linked, etc), the highest the Alexa ranking is (1 being the highest). Wikipedia [[Wikipedia:List of ways to verify notability of articles|uses it]] as a way of determining if a web site is notable or not. Sites that are not notable (Alexa ranking over 10,000) don't usually have a Wikipedia article about them (unless they have probed themselves notables in other ways, in example, being used by notable sources as references, etc). Since external links don't work with Alexa to define if an external link is suitable or not, I must note that Wikipedia is not a web directory. Thus, the external link section should have only "enough" links, not just too many. And I would prefer to have those with a high ranking (that is, that are more likely to be visited by people than unknown ones). -- [[User:ReyBrujo|ReyBrujo]] 16:47, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
 
I think it is good to remove SOME sites, but not 98% of them. Some of the sites that were removed were excellent sources of information concerning Miss Hamasaki and should not have been removed.--[[User:Haley de Lioncourt|Haley]] 01:01, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
:Nobody did the cleaning, so I did it. People just add external links, sometimes with spam or to non notable sites that add nothing to the article. In the end, all fan sites except the official one were removed until someone would determine which were the best ones. Per [[WP:EL|the guides]], a couple of fan sites are fine, but you get to listen to everyone shouting "Mine! Mine!". Unluckily, it is hard to make people understand only a couple should be included, and in the end it is easier to keep the area clean. -- [[User:ReyBrujo|ReyBrujo]] 01:13, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
::I think http://www.ahsforum.com should be added. That community is very active and has some interesting forums that contain alot of information (Check out the "News", "Enqquiries" and "Ayu library" forums).
 
== Ayu's Award ==
 
I was looking at BoA page and shows a list of awards shes won can some one please add that to Ayu's page 'cause I can't find it. Alot of Ayu fans I know are asking about it. you can IM me my Screen names are '''AIM: Naraku AKA Hell''' and '''MSN: McFadden828@msn.com'''
IM me if you wan to discuss the AYu page please.[[User:Fullmetal Alchemist|Fullmetal Alchemist]] 05:04, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
 
:: I added all her awards ^_^ [[User:Maxker|Maxker]] 13:20, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
 
== album pictures ==
can we keep the album pictures in the front, causee now the page looks too plain [[User:Tombadevil|Tomba]]
::The Biography was full of all the album covers, and it looked really bad, now it looks better. If people want to see all her album covers, they will go to her discography ^_^ [[User:Clouded|Clouded]] 02:48, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
:::I've added some little pictures to try to add some interest to the page --[[User:Stzr3|Stzr3]] 04:16, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
 
== Ayumi's real name ==
I'm getting sick changing her real name over and over, PLEASE STOP CHANGING HER NAME TO 浜崎 あゆみ, her real name is with Kanji.[[User:Clouded|Clouded]] 16:40, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
 
accually thats not her real name you can choose if you want to write her name in Kanji. Buy AYu prefered to write the way everyone else is known to.
::It's obvious that you don't know Japanese law... The legal names of every japanese people legally MUST be written in Kanji. Just for you to know. If people keeps changing her real name I might talk with a moderator about [[Wikipedia:Vandalism|vandalism]]. [[User:Clouded|Clouded]] 16:46, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
 
It is not the case that Japanese law requires legal names to be written in kanji; there are a great many native Japanese with no kanji in their given names (a few in my own family). Also, gaijin becoming naturalized citizens indeed have the option of writing their name in katakana.
 
theres no need to get so serious about it sheesh.......
 
just a note- everywhere that I have seen her name (music videos, performances, tv shows, online text, oricon, magazines, commercials, and the list goes on) her name is given as : 浜崎 あゆみ, so I really don't see what the problem is... [[User:Yajimari21|Yajimari21]] 21:04, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
 
::That's because her '''stage name''' is 浜崎あゆみ, her name in the industry. But legally (by law) her name is 濱崎歩, and it's not spelled Bin Vi Qu like someone wrote in here, is just Hamasaki Ayumi. [[User:Clouded|Clouded]] 21:55, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
 
One more proof found in the japanese entry for this article:
本名は、濱崎歩(読みは同じ) which means : real name is 濱崎歩 (reading is the same (implied: as 浜崎あゆみ))
 
浜崎 - I think this is usually pronounced Hamazaki but she prefers it as Hamasaki. Should the pronunciation of her name should be the way she prefers it? [[User:Iloveayu|mirageinred]] 22:38, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
 
 
===Mediation request===
 
In response to the [[Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-04-14 Ayumi Hamasaki|mediation request]] by [[User:Clouded|Clouded]], can I request that both Clouded and the anon editor provide references to support their view of what the name should be written as. Whatever the references say, is what should be in the article. Please refrain from edit-warring on the article over the presence or absence of the legal name, and discuss the matter here. Once a solution is reached the resulting text can be placed in the article. [[User:kcordina|Kcordina]] <sup> [[User talk:Kcordina|Talk]] </sup> 11:34, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
 
Hello:
 
I recently read about this argument and this is what I can gather:
 
According to Ayu!love!ayu! (<nowiki>http://www.ayuloveayu.com/</nowiki>) fan site, the official profile released during the time of her debut listed her name as 浜崎歩.
According to AYUMIHAMASAKIFAN (<nowiki>http://ayu.mints.ne.jp/profile.html</nowiki>) her name is 浜崎歩.
According to AYU*SYSTEM (<nowiki>http://hp.kutikomi.net/ayusystem/?n=page1</nowiki>), her real name is 濱崎歩.
 
According to avex, her name is thus 浜崎歩。The reports of other names are not cited on the websites given. If someone would like to look around on Japanese fansites and gleen what information they are able, I suspect one could decide this once and for all. There is certainly possibility that she uses "浜" despite the fact that it is not the original kanji in her name. Nevertheless, the usage of "濱" is only found on her released goods in Chinese-speaking areas. So could it be a misunderstanding? I'm not certain. [[User:tsubasa|tsubasa]] Good luck to everyone: it's a bit of a mystery.
 
==Biography==
I think the Biography needs a clean-up, it's full of non-biographical facts, only matters about her discography.... I've removed the GEO of SWEETBOX compositions information from the "(Miss)understood Era" part and I've put that info on the article of the "(miss)understood" album. [[User:Clouded|Clouded]] 03:58, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
:I support this. I think the biography is full of a lot fo information that is unneccesary and could be removed --[[User:Stzr3|Stzr3]] 02:57, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
::I will try to take the un-biography info of some singles/albums and take that info to their respective single/album article. [[User:Clouded|Clouded]] 21:27, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
 
==Important Titles Note for ALL artists (please copy this on other asian artist talk pages)==
I must note something very important for future editors of this page (also try to observe this for any non English speaking band or author... etc): If you see a single, album, dvd, concert, or book title that contains poor grammar, please consider that even though the English spelling or grammar may be incorrect, that it still may actually be the official title. If someone is searching for the single, and cannot find it the official way... then what good is wiki? Please do not tamper with titles unless you have found hard evidence that the title has been written incorrectly from the official spelling. also note, some OFFICIAL japanese titles are titled in all CAPS (or with stars and hearts or other "non-letter/number characters) this is NOT a mistake, please leave them like this. All one must do is observe the picture or written info of the single/album/book on the official page which is linked in the article at the bottom. Please help keep wikipedia encyclopedic and correct! Thank you. -- [[User:NatsukiGirl|<font color="CC3366">'''NatsukiGirl'''</font>]]\<sup>[[User_Talk:NatsukiGirl|<font color="006666">''talk''</font>]]</sup> 04:15, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
:Well, can you provide arguments on why should we break the convention? why not putting redirects in the all uppercase titles? The article text could use uppercase, but I don't see compelling arguments for changing the convention of the title. Also, for the "people wil lsearch for the upper case title", well, that's what the redirects solve. So far I haven't seen a discussion (perhaps you can point it to me) and since there's no consensus yet, I suggest not to change albums titles to uppercase (as in [[AROUND THE WORLD]] from the existing titles). -- <small> ( [[User:Drini|<span style="cursor:crosshair;">drini's page</span>]] [[User talk:Drini|<big><span style="cursor:crosshair;">&#x260E;</span></big>]] )</small> 04:16, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
:: I think we should leave the names how they were intended to be (i.e. No way to say, INSPIRE, CAROLS, forgiveness, etc.) --[[User:Stzr3|Stzr3]] 03:51, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
:::I agree. I think it is weird to differ from the official notation. Artists often clearly have some artistic intention with their titles.
 
== heeey ==
 
someone rewrote the (miss) understood era and the 2006 events and left out a lot of things so STOP!
 
So I fixed some stuff about the article but somebody please ACCURATELY rewrite it or restore it to the old one. It sounds like a english second language person rewrote the article. JEEEEEEEEEZ.
 
::I've edited the biography in the article, sorry for not write perfectly native english though, but her biography is full of non-biography things; in fact all the information is about her discography, so please just put the relevant information in the biography, not only "''she released her #th single and reached the #? spot in the charts, then she released another single that reached the #? spot in the charts, and then she released her #th album that reached the #? spot in the charts''" If you want to put that info go to the articles of those albums and singles. Thanks --- [[User:Clouded|Clouded]] 17:42, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
 
== Blood Type??? ==
Why is her blood type listed? That is a very strange thing to list and could cause problems for Miss Hamasaki.
: Japanese like to categorize people by blood type. [[User:Monni1995|Monni]] 04:04, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
:Think of it as like [[Zodiac]] signs. See, [[Japan blood type theory of personality]].[[User:Calicore|Calicore]] 04:11, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
::::Everyone responded before I could. ;) I just read about Japanese beliefs about blood types and found it very interesting. I did not know asking or knowing one's blood type in Japan was common practice. As an American, I was at first alarmed to see this information in Miss Hamasaki's bio page but, I am glad I read it because I just learned something about Japan and her culture. I was going to delete my question but decided to leave it so others could learn as well. :)
 
== citations ==
I think ayu's official site can be used as a source of citation since it contains extensive information about her releases. Perhaps Oricon will serve as another reliable source? [[User:Iloveayu|mirageinred]] 01:53, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
: Yes i think both of those are reliable sources. --[[User:Stzr3|Stzr3]] 03:49, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
::I cited them. I'll look for more sources if I can find any. [[User:Iloveayu|mirageinred]] 22:35, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
 
==Main picture again==
The current image [[:Image:Ayupopteen.jpg]] cannot be used in the infobox of the artist. The Fair use policy forbids this kind of use. In example, it is fine to add the image to a section of the article '''if''' the section talks about her presence in the magazine, but not to describe her. -- [[User:ReyBrujo|ReyBrujo]] 06:07, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
 
== Ladies Night ~another night~ ==
 
I changed it from "A remix of "Ladies Night" to "A rearrangement of "Ladies Night", since it is a rearrangement, not a remix. <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:142.59.222.22|142.59.222.22]] ([[User talk:142.59.222.22|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/142.59.222.22|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}.</small>
 
== INSIRE Japan Record Award ==
Ayu, apparently vitoed this song getting a Japan Record Award. Where is a source for this information? I am having trouble believing this. <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:82.12.227.208|82.12.227.208]] ([[User talk:82.12.227.208|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/82.12.227.208|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}.</small>
:Well, she chose not to accept any awards due to the scandal way back in 2004 when Max Matsuura was going to resign. Max Matsuura is pretty important to her since he helped her become a superstar she is today. So she said that she was going to move out of the record label along with him causing the Avex stocks to plummet resulting in a lot of chaos. [[User:Iloveayu|mirageinred]] 20:56, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
 
:I guess her refusal was her own way to apologize for the brief ruckus. [[User:Iloveayu|mirageinred]] 20:56, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
 
::Sources?? [[User:Clouded|Clouded]] 20:54, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
 
== (miss)understood ==
 
Ok. THis comes from me and my friend debating. He is a bigger Ayu fan, but you can sort this out for your self. Excluding all of her singles, [[(Miss)Understood]] came after [[My Story]],right? <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:24.105.204.232|24.105.204.232]] ([[User talk:24.105.204.232|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/24.105.204.232|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}.</small>
:Yes, of course. [[User:Iloveayu|mirageinred]] 18:05, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
::What else could it be?
 
== (miss)understood came out after My Story.......... ==
 
of course it came out after My Story came out in in December 2004 and (miss)understood came out in January 2006..........................its in the disc................
 
== What's with the symbols? ==
I was looking at the symbols section in the article, and I noticed that the picture of one of the symbol all the way on the right is... black? Clearly, she wouldn't just use the color black, right? [[User:Iloveayu|mirageinred]] 18:08, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
 
And I also noticed that the "first A" as in the symbol of her 10th single A is gone too. There should be three A's: one for her single, one for her initials, and one for the one used during her (miss)understood tour. [[User:Iloveayu|mirageinred]] 18:11, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
 
Um. The one all the way on the right is dark brown with a black background, taken from her A single. And the (miss)understood symbol IS on there. 22:51, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
 
== Awards ==
 
Since when is getting a highest selling single considered an award? We should only put ACTUAL awards and not records. Start a different section for that. <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:Evolution7931|Evolution7931]] ([[User talk:Evolution7931|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Evolution7931|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}.</small>
 
== 愛美です。亜佑美ちゃんです。あなたの二番目に好きな人は誰ですか? ==
 
亜佑美 米沢 です。 あなたはTOKIOのJESSICAになってください。
愛美はじつは亜佑美です。EVERY LITTLE THING のファンです。
あたしは今全身が癌です。でも舞と言う親友と智衣と麻衣子と咲と沙貴子と智子と美弥子と亜佑美、そして、優と室井裕喜という愛する心友を救うためにあたしは世界で一番の絆という曲をあなたに作曲を頼みたい。小百合と詩織を捜しに石川に来てあたしの居場所を聞いて下さい。
 
 
PS、長瀬智也と結婚今すぐしてほしいです。 亜佑美は瀬古伸哉と結婚して幸せになります。
  媛という子を授かっています。21歳の1985年5月11日生まれの丑年のおうし座です。
  TIME GOES BY をあなたに瀬古伸哉と亜佑美たちが咲たちと一緒にあなたに歌います。
  瀬古はあなたの一番のファンであなたを愛しています。あたしよりあなたと結婚したいくらい
  好きだそうです。亜佑美はまだSEXしたことがありません。でも、今は幸せです。
   堀田大貴が亜佑美のためにバイオテロを造ったからです。亜佑美はゴマを愛している。
  ゴマちゃんを救ってください。亜佑美の大親友ゴマを救えるのはあなたと長瀬率いるTOKIOだけで   す。では、紅白歌合戦で対決しましょう。私たちJAYROCK WHITE は世界を制覇する。
         
 
                                       YONEAYUより {{unsigned2|01:06, 12 September 2006 (UTC)|124.103.73.83}}
 
 
残念、しかしこれAyu に関連していないがない。また、これは英国のWikipedia である。[[User:Why sigh, cutie pie?|Why sigh, cutie pie?]] 01:35, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
 
== (miss)understood sales ==
 
"So far in the year, it's the first best selling original studio album by a female artist selling total world wide (includes Japan) over 925,226 copies."
 
I took this off, because [[Christina Aguilera]] released her new album three weeks ago and it has already sold over a million copies worldwide, what unables (miss)understood to be considered the best-selling original studio album by a female artist worlwide of 2006.--[[User:Gihad|Gihad]] 00:25, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
 
: (miss)understood was never the highest selling orginal studio album by a female in Japan either, Koda Kumi's BEST ~ Second Session sold 1 million copies in its first 2 weeks.... but whether Second Session is an "Orginal Studio Album" what I dont know about xD [[User:Banzai777|Banzai777]] 10:27, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
 
::Her Best of album is not a studio album. [[User:Iloveayu|mirageinred]] 23:28, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
 
Geez. Kumi's BEST ~second session~ is NOT an original album. 22:54, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
 
::: I don't understand how Second Session is not an original album, Have ANY of the tracks been on an album before? Whats the definition of an original album anyway....... [[User:Banzai777|Banzai777]] 08:08, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
 
::::Because its a "Best of" album... yet at the same time they have never been on an album before, so it's kinda open to debate. [[User:Iloveayu|mirageinred]] 23:40, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
 
== Profile ==
 
Is informing the readers her height, weight, and blood type going to enrich the article in any way? They're cute, but they are better off in fansites. [[User:Iloveayu|mirageinred]] 02:43, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
 
: Nah... Just keep them... Not many actually want to visit all those fansites, especially if we don't allow so many links to them. For some people those details mean a lot. [[User:Monni1995|Monni]] 08:11, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
 
:: The bloodtype thing was covered here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Ayumi_Hamasaki#Blood_Type.3F.3F.3F <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:4nGeLuS|4nGeLuS]] ([[User talk:4nGeLuS|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/4nGeLuS|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}.</small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->
 
 
== Respetively ==
'Commonly known just as Ayu(or respetively called Ayu-sama by much of her Japanese fan base),'
 
 
Is respetively some specialized english form of a Japanese word or just an error in the opening few sentences? --[[User:BHC|BHC]] 22:09, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
 
 
I'm sorry, but I'm going to erase this "sama" thing. Sama is just a way to show respect, appliable to each and every adult Japanese, not only for a huge superstar like Hamasaki. If anyone lives in Japan and/or has a strong argument to rewrite this, please say it here and include the "Ayu-sama" in her "known as" line again.[[User:Gihad|Gihad]] 18:28, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
 
== CD+DVD covers (for Album and Single pages) ==
 
I've noticed that most people probably don't know how to do this.
so everyone knows when you add a single box to the page you put an added section at the bottom for additional covers.
well to make it all the same color instead of something like this (notice the bright yellow color on the CD + DVD part below on the 1st one):
 
{{Infobox Single
| Name = Startin'/Born To Be...
| Cover = Startincd2.jpg
| Artist = Ayumi Hamasaki
| from Album = [[Secret (Ayumi Hamasaki album)|Secret]]
| Released = [[March 8]], [[2006]]
| Format = [[CD single]]
| [ Recorded = ]
| Genre = [[J-pop]]
| Length = 24:09
| Label = [[AVEX Records|Avex Trax]]
| Writer = [[Ayumi Hamasaki]]
| Producer =
| Chart position = <ul><li>'''#1'''<small> ([[Japan|JP]])</small></li></ul>
| Last single = "[[Bold & Delicious/Pride]]"<br />(2005)
| This single = '''"Startin'/Born To Be..."'''<br />(2006)
| Next single = "[[Blue Bird (single)|BLUE BIRD]]"<br />(2006)
| Misc = {{Extra album cover
| Upper caption = CD + DVD
| Background = Yellow
| Cover = SBtb.jpg|200px
| Lower caption = CD + DVD Cover
}}
}}
 
do the following- change the part where it says:
*| Background = Yellow
 
to
*<nowiki>| Type = [[Single]]</nowiki>
 
then it will look like this (notice its all gold on the second one):
{{Infobox Single
| Name = Startin'/Born To Be...
| Cover = Startincd2.jpg
| Artist = Ayumi Hamasaki
| from Album = [[Secret (Ayumi Hamasaki album)|Secret]]
| Released = [[March 8]], [[2006]]
| Format = [[CD single]]
| [ Recorded = ]
| Genre = [[J-pop]]
| Length = 24:09
| Label = [[AVEX Records|Avex Trax]]
| Writer = [[Ayumi Hamasaki]]
| Producer =
| Chart position = <ul><li>'''#1'''<small> ([[Japan|JP]])</small></li></ul>
| Last single = "[[Bold & Delicious/Pride]]"<br />(2005)
| This single = '''"Startin'/Born To Be..."'''<br />(2006)
| Next single = "[[Blue Bird (single)|BLUE BIRD]]"<br />(2006)
| Misc = {{Extra album cover
| Upper caption = CD + DVD
| Type = [[Single]]
| Cover = SBtb.jpg|200px
| Lower caption = CD + DVD Cover
}}
}}
 
[[User:Vegantics|Vegantics]] ([[User talk:Vegantics|talk]]) 19:32, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
ALSO, the same thing can be done for albums. But instead of writing:
*<nowiki>| Type = [[Single]]</nowiki>
write:
*<nowiki>| Type = [[Album]]</nowiki>
and then the whole thing will be that one blue color used for albums.
 
:For these same reasons, I have merged the articles for ''Ayumi Hamasaki Concert Tour 2000 Vol. 1'' and ''Ayumi Hamasaki Concert Tour 2000 Vol. 2.''
any questions just ask
:[[User:Vegantics|Vegantics]] ([[User talk:Vegantics|talk]]) 20:48, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
::Thank you for bringing attention to these pages, it was the right call. I'll round back to giving those releases their proper dues eventually if no one else does. [[User:Jelioi|Jelioi]] ([[User talk:Jelioi|talk]]) 11:41, 14 December 2024 (UTC)