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==== Category:Sportspeople from Smithtown, New York ====
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:''The result of the discussion was:'' <!-- Template:Cfd top --> '''keep''' <small>([[Wikipedia:Non-admin closure|non-admin closure]])</small>. [[User:Marcocapelle|Marcocapelle]] ([[User talk:Marcocapelle|talk]]) 07:45, 13 July 2019 (UTC)
:* '''Propose merging''' [[:Category:Sportspeople from Smithtown, New York]] to [[:Category:People from Smithtown, New York]]
:'''Nominator's rationale:''' Category with just one entry. [[User:WilliamJE|...William]], is the complaint department really on [[User talk:WilliamJE|the roof?]] 14:59, 5 July 2019 (UTC)
*'''Merge''' per nom. '''[[User:Lugnuts|<
*'''Keep'''. Now contains 12 articles. Perhaps seeing whether it could be populated first might have been a better idea? [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...''<small>[[User_talk:Grutness|<span style="color: #008822;">wha?</span>]]</small>'' 04:57, 6 July 2019 (UTC)
*With 12 articles, this must now be a '''keep''', but even if removed it should have been upmerged also to Sportspeople from New York (state). If that is not necessary because all the articles are already there, the nom should say so. [[User:Peterkingiron|Peterkingiron]] ([[User talk:Peterkingiron|talk]]) 15:12, 6 July 2019 (UTC)
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==== Category:History of Gymnastics ====
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:''The result of the discussion was:'' <!-- Template:Cfd top --> '''rename'''. [[User:MER-C|MER-C]] 09:28, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
:* '''Propose renaming''' [[:Category:History of Gymnastics]] to [[:Category:History of gymnastics]]
:'''Nominator's rationale:''' Upper case G inappropriate. Other sports history categories use lower case for name of sport (e.g., History of association football). [[User:No Great Shaker|No Great Shaker]] ([[User talk:No Great Shaker|talk]]) 14:16, 5 July 2019 (UTC)
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*<small> [[WP:WikiProject Gymnastics]] has been notified of this discussion. </small>
*<small> [[WP:WikiProject History]] has been notified of this discussion. – [[User:Fayenatic london|Fayenatic]] [[User talk:Fayenatic london|'''<span style="color: #FF0000;">L</span>'''ondon]] 21:11, 9 July 2019 (UTC) </small>
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==== Category:The Second City ====
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:''The result of the discussion was:'' <!-- Template:Cfd top --> '''purge''' per [[WP:PERFCAT]]. [[User:MER-C|MER-C]] 11:15, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
:* '''Propose deleting''' {{lc|The Second City}}<br />
:'''Nominator's rationale:''' This is pretty much a [[WP:PERFCAT]] '''--[[User:Woodensuperman|<span style="background:yellow; color:red;;">wooden</span>]][[User talk:Woodensuperman|<span style="background:yellow; color:blue;;">superman</span>]]''' 12:27, 5 July 2019 (UTC)
* <s>'''Support'''</s> '''''Purge''''', this is only defining for the three founders. [[User:Marcocapelle|Marcocapelle]] ([[User talk:Marcocapelle|talk]]) 18:01, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
:* There are also some topic articles in this category, per comment below, so I changed 'support' to 'purge' (remove the performers). [[User:Marcocapelle|Marcocapelle]] ([[User talk:Marcocapelle|talk]]) 06:51, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' if you eliminate the performers there are still a lot of articles in this category. It is just not being used correctly.-[[User:TonyTheTiger|TonyTheTiger]] <small>([[User talk:TonyTheTiger|T]] / [[Special:Contributions/TonyTheTiger|C]] / [[WP:FOUR]] / [[WP:CHICAGO]] / [[WP:WAWARD]])</small> 03:17, 13 July 2019 (UTC)
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Another improperly conducted CfD. There was no notification on affected articles thus only three editors made a massive change with no input. The first notification on the articles is the deletion of the category. '''BAD PROCEDURE.''' [[User:Trackinfo|Trackinfo]] ([[User talk:Trackinfo|talk]]) 21:31, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
==== Category:US city of residence user templates ====
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:''The result of the discussion was:'' <!-- Template:Cfd top --> '''merge'''. [[User:MER-C|MER-C]] 09:00, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
:* '''Propose merging''' [[:Category:US city of residence user templates]] to [[:Category:US city user templates]]
:* '''Propose merging''' [[:Category:US city of origin user templates]] to [[:Category:US city user templates]]
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*'''Support''' It makes sense to merge these two categories they are so similiar.[[User:Catfurball|Catfurball]] ([[User talk:Catfurball|talk]]) 19:22, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
[[File:Farm-Fresh eye.png|15px|link=|alt=]] You are invited to join the discussion at [[Wikipedia:Village pump (idea lab)#Category:Location user templates overhaul]]. —[[User:Andrybak|andrybak]] ([[User talk:Andrybak|talk]]) 07:47, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
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==== Category:Lion Safari in India ====
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==== Category:Sports in Hingham, Massachusetts ====
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:''The result of the discussion was:'' <!-- Template:Cfd top --> '''delete'''. [[User:MER-C|MER-C]] 09:26, 13 July 2019 (UTC)
:* '''Propose deleting''' {{lc|Sports in Hingham, Massachusetts}}<br />
:'''Nominator's rationale:''' Small category that only contains 2 redirected articles. [[User:Namiba|TM]] 12:26, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
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*'''Delete without merger''', as the target article does not explain [[Hingham Harbormen]]/women, except that the infobox mentions harbormen under "mascot". I have, however, added the target school into [[:Category:Hingham, Massachusetts]]. – [[User:Fayenatic london|Fayenatic]] [[User talk:Fayenatic london|'''<span style="color: #FF0000;">L</span>'''ondon]] 07:07, 6 July 2019 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' per Fayenatic. Nothing really in this category. Also suggest looking at the equally pointless {{cl|Sports in Brookline, Massachusetts}}. [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...''<small>[[User_talk:Grutness|<span style="color: #008822;">wha?</span>]]</small>'' 01:28, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
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==== Category:Residence user templates ====
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:''The result of the discussion was:'' <!-- Template:Cfd top --> '''rename''' [[:Category:Place of residence user templates]] to [[:Category:City user templates]]. – [[User:Fayenatic london|Fayenatic]] [[User talk:Fayenatic london|'''<span style="color: #FF0000;">L</span>'''ondon]] 14:18, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
:* '''Propose merging''' [[:Category:Residence user templates]] to [[:Category:Place of residence user templates]]
:'''Nominator's rationale:'''
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* '''Alternative: rename''' [[:Category:Place of residence user templates]] to [[:Category:City user templates]], then the difference becomes a lot clearer. The parent category also contains regional and country user templates. I have tagged [[:Category:Place of residence user templates]] for that purpose. [[User:Marcocapelle|Marcocapelle]] ([[User talk:Marcocapelle|talk]]) 10:19, 5 July 2019 (UTC)
:* {{re|Marcocapelle}} basically, I'm trying to reach a middle ground between the two extreme options outlined [[Wikipedia:Village pump (idea lab)#Category:Location user templates overhaul|at the idea lab]]. I try to do it gradually. Another step is harmonizing cities user templates categories ([[Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2019_July_14#Category:X_city_of_residence_user_templates|one]], [[Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2019_July_5#Category:US_city_of_residence_user_templates|two]], and [[Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2019 June 27#Category:Russian city of residence user templates|three]]). I'm planning to describe the middle ground later at the idea lab discussion as time permits. —[[User:Andrybak|andrybak]] ([[User talk:Andrybak|talk]]) 12:21, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
* '''Support''' [[:Category:Place of residence user templates]] should be renamed to [[:Category:City user templates]], this would make it clear to people what this category is for.[[User:Catfurball|Catfurball]] ([[User talk:Catfurball|talk]]) 20:36, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
:* {{U|Marcocapelle}} and {{u|Catfurball}}, what do you think of [[:Category:Place of origin user templates]]? Maybe there ought to be a much wider discussion? —[[User:Andrybak|andrybak]] ([[User talk:Andrybak|talk]]) 20:47, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
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::::* Yes, the whole distinction between origin and residence is redundant and confusing. Wp editors will use city templates when the city applies to them, regardless origin, having lived there or still living there. [[User:Marcocapelle|Marcocapelle]] ([[User talk:Marcocapelle|talk]]) 21:28, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
*{{ping|Andrybak}} [[:Category:Place of origin user templates]] is very confusing to me, it needs to be cleaned up by someone somehow.[[User:Catfurball|Catfurball]] ([[User talk:Catfurball|talk]]) 20:54, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
*'''Rename''' [[:Category:Place of residence user templates]] to [[:Category:City user templates]]. The current names are highly confusing. While the categories require some cleanup I don't believe a merge would be necessary since a city category is an aproporiate way to categorize all these userboxes. --[[User:Trialpears|Trialpears]] ([[User talk:Trialpears|talk]]) 22:26, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
=====Discussion at [[Wikipedia:Village pump (idea lab)#Category:Location user templates overhaul]]=====
[[File:Farm-Fresh eye.png|15px|link=|alt=]] You are invited to join the discussion at [[Wikipedia:Village pump (idea lab)#Category:Location user templates overhaul]]. —[[User:Andrybak|andrybak]] ([[User talk:Andrybak|talk]]) 07:44, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
::Pings: {{U|Marcocapelle}}, {{U|Catfurball}}. —[[User:Andrybak|andrybak]] ([[User talk:Andrybak|talk]]) 07:46, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
:::For the record: that was archived at [[Wikipedia:Village pump (idea lab)/Archive 29#Category:Location user templates overhaul]]. – [[User:Fayenatic london|Fayenatic]] [[User talk:Fayenatic london|'''<span style="color: #FF0000;">L</span>'''ondon]] 14:16, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
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==== Category:Transfeminine male actors ====
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:* '''Propose deleting''' {{lc|Transfeminine male actors}}<br />
:'''Nominator's rationale:''' Overly specific. Very few actors specifically identify as transfeminie male. <span style="color:green;">[[User:JDDJS|<span style="color:green;">JDDJS</span>]] ([[User talk:JDDJS|<span style="color:purple;">talk to me</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/JDDJS|<span style="color:purple;">see what I've done</span>]])</span> 02:22, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
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==== Category:Jewel (singer) ====
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:''The result of the discussion was:'' <!-- Template:Cfd top --> '''rename'''. [[User:MER-C|MER-C]] 09:36, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
:* '''Propose renaming''' [[:Category:Jewel (singer)]] to [[:Category:Works by Jewel (singer)]]
:'''Nominator's rationale:''' All of these articles relate to her works, therefore this should be in the "Works by..." category tree. Per [[WP:OCEPON]], we shouldn't have eponymous categories unless multiple other articles exist. '''--[[User:Woodensuperman|<span style="background:yellow; color:red;;">wooden</span>]][[User talk:Woodensuperman|<span style="background:yellow; color:blue;;">superman</span>]]''' 09:56, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
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*'''Rename''' as there is zero justification for an eponymous category here. – [[User:Fayenatic london|Fayenatic]] [[User talk:Fayenatic london|'''<span style="color: #FF0000;">L</span>'''ondon]] 07:11, 6 July 2019 (UTC)
*'''Rename''' [[WP:OCEPON]] is quite clear in this case and I found no reason to deviate from the guideline in the keep arguments. --[[User:Trialpears|Trialpears]] ([[User talk:Trialpears|talk]]) 22:33, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
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==== Category:Sara Bareilles ====
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:''The result of the discussion was:'' <!-- Template:Cfd top --> '''no consensus'''. [[User:MER-C|MER-C]] 08:23, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
:* '''Propose deleting''' {{lc|Sara Bareilles}}<br />
:'''Nominator's rationale:''' Per [[WP:OCEPON]], not enough articles that can't be grouped under {{cl|Works by Sara Bareilles}}. '''--[[User:Woodensuperman|<span style="background:yellow; color:red;;">wooden</span>]][[User talk:Woodensuperman|<span style="background:yellow; color:blue;;">superman</span>]]''' 09:41, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
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* '''Keep for now''' The bigger question here is whether a concert tour should be categorized as a work. If it should then this should obviously be converted to a single category. I think it should be categorized as such but if we're only going to recategorize this one concert tour that would be undesirable for consistency reasons. I would happily support a larger discussion on this topic though. --[[User:Trialpears|Trialpears]] ([[User talk:Trialpears|talk]]) 22:42, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
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==== Category:JVP insurrections in popular culture ====
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:''The result of the discussion was:'' <!-- Template:Cfd top --> '''merge'''. Followup left to subsequent nominations. [[User:MER-C|MER-C]] 09:25, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
:* '''Propose deleting''' {{lc|JVP insurrections in popular culture}}<br />
:'''Nominator's rationale:''' Unnecessary category. The other subcats of [[:Category:War in popular culture]] all have substantial content, but this one stuck out like the proverbial sore thumb, with zero articles and only a single subcat, [[:Category:JVP insurrections in film]]. After deletion, that category should be placed directly in the two Insurrection parent cats of [[:Category:JVP insurrections in popular culture]]. [[User:Anomalous+0|Anomalous+0]] ([[User talk:Anomalous+0|talk]]) 02:17, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
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==== Category:Prince-bishoprics of Switzerland ====
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==== Category:Prince-bishops of Poland ====
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:''The result of the discussion was:'' <!-- Template:Cfd top --> '''delete''' [[:Category:Prince-bishops of Poland]], '''merge''' the two others. [[User:MER-C|MER-C]] 09:38, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
:* '''Propose merging''' [[:Category:Prince-bishops of Poland]] to [[:Category:Prince-bishops]]
:* '''Propose merging''' [[:Category:Prince-bishops of Spain]] to [[:Category:Prince-bishops]]
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:* That is a very fair point, leading to an alternative proposal to simply delete the Polish category. As nominator, I am supporting the alternative as well. [[User:Marcocapelle|Marcocapelle]] ([[User talk:Marcocapelle|talk]]) 20:31, 6 July 2019 (UTC)
*'''Merge''' Spanish and Low Countries, delite Polish. [[User:Laurel Lodged|Laurel Lodged]] ([[User talk:Laurel Lodged|talk]]) 17:00, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
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==== Category:Writers who illustrated their own writing ====
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:''The result of the discussion was:'' <!-- Template:Cfd top --> '''keep''' <small>([[Wikipedia:Non-admin closure|non-admin closure]])</small>. [[User:Marcocapelle|Marcocapelle]] ([[User talk:Marcocapelle|talk]]) 07:50, 13 July 2019 (UTC)
:* '''Propose deleting''' {{lc|Writers who illustrated their own writing}}<br />
:'''Nominator's rationale:''' Trivial, [[WP:NONDEF|non-defining]] category prone to detritus. Open-ended category would logically include a bazillion comics creators. While many writers illustrate their own work, no one from [[Dr. Seuss]] to [[Clive Barker]] is commonly categorized as such outside of navel-gazing Wikipedia. [[User:Animalparty|--Animalparty!]] ([[User talk:Animalparty|talk]]) 06:07, 5 July 2019 (UTC)
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* '''Keep ''' per above. There aren't many comics people here, & ideally they should be in a sub-cat - doesn't a comics one exist? [[User:Johnbod|Johnbod]] ([[User talk:Johnbod|talk]]) 16:05, 6 July 2019 (UTC)
** '''Comment ''' It would be rather unusual. In comic books, typically one person serves as the writer and provides the [[Script (comics)]], another serves as the main [[comics artist]]/[[penciller]] and provides the illustrations, a third one serves as the [[inker]] who retraces and finalizes the drawings, a fourth one is the [[colorist]] who adds colors to the black-and-white works of the penciller and inker, and a fifth one serves as [[letterer]] responsible for the [[speech balloon]]s. Most writers don't contribute to the artwork of a story, and most artists don't contribute to the script. The exceptions include people who filled more than one role in the production process, such as [[Carl Barks]] (both wrote and illustrated most of his stories from 1943 to 1966, wrote stories for other artists during his semi-retirement), [[Jack Kirby]] (mostly credited as a penciller from the 1930s to the 1960s, started both writing and illustrating his own stories in the 1970s), [[Bill Everett]] (mostly wrote and illustrated his own stories from the 1930s to the 1950s, mainly credited as a writer in the 1960s), and [[Steve Ditko]] (mostly credited as a penciller in his hired work for various publishing houses, writer for some of his more "personal" works such as [[Mr. A]]). [[User:Dimadick|Dimadick]] ([[User talk:Dimadick|talk]]) 07:08, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
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