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::In general, I tend to think that less is more in cases like this unless there is a strong reason to differentiate. However, I don't really know much about the Internet Archive, so I'm not really a good person to judge. [[User:Dragons flight|Dragons flight]] ([[User talk:Dragons flight|talk]]) 16:37, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

== postscript check ==

Check for 'postscript' with more than one character. I'm seeing some odd stuff inserted. --''''' &nbsp;[[User:Gadget850|<span style="color:gray">Gadget850&nbsp;(Ed)</span>]]'''''^{[[User talk:Gadget850|&nbsp;''talk'']]} 19:30, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

:My present reaction is that it may be too late for this. There appear to be too many people doing things like {{para|postcript|<nowiki><!-- None --></nowiki>}}, plus [[User:Citation bot]] has been putting a message about {{tl|inconsistent citations}} in the postscript. Insisting that it ought to be only one character seems a bit futile at this point. [[User:Dragons flight|Dragons flight]] ([[User talk:Dragons flight|talk]]) 22:25, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

::Perhaps just a hidden tracking category to see what is out there. --<span style="color:Turquoise">''''' &nbsp;[[User:Gadget850|Gadget850]]'''''^{[[User talk:Gadget850|&nbsp;''talk'']]}</span> 02:04, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

== Format size ==

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It seems to me that it should be fairly easy to incorporate these requirements into this module and allow much of the code in the current scripts could be junked as it would allow all the other parameters standard to be passed in without the need to do so explicitly (as had to be done previously). -- [[User:PBS|PBS]] ([[User talk:PBS|talk]]) 13:22, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

== Part ==

A part= parameter would be useful, see for example:

* [http://wiki.fibis.org/index.php?title=Military_periodicals_online#The_United_Service_Journal_and_Naval_and_Military_Magazine The United Service Journal and Naval and Military Magazine] where there are volumes divided into two parts for each year in the volume.

*{{Cite Notitia Parliamentaria |part=1}}

*{{Cite Notitia Parliamentaria |part=2}}

-- [[User:PBS|PBS]] ([[User talk:PBS|talk]]) 13:41, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

:Also useful would be column (col.), paragraph (para.); track; hours, minutes and seconds; act, scene, canto, book, part, folio, stanza, back cover, liner notes, indicia, colophon, dust jacket, verse and probably a lot more. But this is why we have the catchall 'at' field where you can add free text where 'chapter' and 'page' don't exactly fit. --<span style="color:Turquoise">''''' &nbsp;[[User:Gadget850|Gadget850]]'''''^{[[User talk:Gadget850|&nbsp;''talk'']]}</span> 17:45, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

::By that argument volume may as well be removed! A difference is made between chapter and page. A similar difference needs to be made between volume and part. In parts page numbering often restarts. Most of the items you have listed in your first sentence are attributes of the same physical book (and are other ways of pinpointing information within a physical book). Part is different, it frequently describes a physical book with its own page numbering. -- [[User:PBS|PBS]] ([[User talk:PBS|talk]]) 09:26, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

== Separator suppression ==

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See discussion at [[User_talk:Citation_bot#removal_of_authors]]. – [[User:Jonesey95|Jonesey95]] ([[User talk:Jonesey95|talk]]) 15:48, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

== Sfnref ==

Integrate {{tl|sfnref}} into the CS1 templates. This would take two parameters: {{para|sfnref}} and {{para|sfnyear}}. --<span style="color:Turquoise">''''' &nbsp;[[User:Gadget850|Gadget850]]'''''^{[[User talk:Gadget850|&nbsp;''talk'']]}</span> 12:45, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

== UA features ==

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:::Allow me to second Rwessel's last post. This is a serious readability issue for such a long list of references, which is difficult enough to read without the error messages. [[User:Texas Dervish|Texas Dervish]] ([[User talk:Texas Dervish|talk]]) 19:40, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

:#{{cite book |title=Title |date=c. 303 – c. 325}}

:#{{cite book |title=Title |date=c. 303}} --[[User:Izno|Izno]] ([[User talk:Izno|talk]]) 16:09, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

== Convert dashes in dates ==

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—[[User:Trappist the monk|Trappist the monk]] ([[User talk:Trappist the monk|talk]]) 15:12, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

::The more general case: The Suggestion list would be better if it accepted regular expressions or something similar. There are myriad misspelled forms of "access-date" that I catch and fix with a regex in [[User:Jonesey95/AutoEd/unnamed.js]]. It would be great if we could feed something like "ac+e+s-*d+a+t+e" (only one "s") or "ac+e+sss+-*d+at+e" (triple "s") into the Suggestions list and have it suggest "access-date". – [[User:Jonesey95|Jonesey95]] ([[User talk:Jonesey95|talk]]) 20:53, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

== Partial links in title ==

{{mdt|Help talk:Citation Style 1#Partial links in title}}

—[[User:Trappist the monk|Trappist the monk]] ([[User talk:Trappist the monk|talk]]) 18:57, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

== Citing Standards ==

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:*{{slink|Help_talk:Citation_Style_1/Archive_56#Citing_norms_and_standards}}

:—[[User:Trappist the monk|Trappist the monk]] ([[User talk:Trappist the monk|talk]]) 13:00, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

== Fix stacked parentheses problem ==

Documented at [[Help talk:Citation Style 1/Archive 24#Type and language]]. Also relevant for [[#Consistent date ___location]] which would add to it when an author/editor is unspecified. --[[User:Izno|Izno]] ([[User talk:Izno|talk]]) 02:13, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

* Author, Editor, Chapter, Work, Type, Language, Format, Date all specified: (ChapterFormat???)

*: Author (Date). "Chapter" (Format Type in Language). In Editor (ed.). ''Work''.

* Missing any one parenthetical above: Trivial case.

* Missing Editor: Trivial case.

* Missing Author:

*: Editor, ed. (Date). "Chapter" (Format Type in Language). ''Work''.

* Missing Chapter

*: Author (Date). In Editor (ed.). ''Work'' (Format Type in Language).

* Missing Work: Author (Date). Editor (ed.). "Chapter" (Format Type in Language).

Of note in this set is if Date is in the "big" parentheses, in MDY, it needs a comma following the Y e.g. (January 1, 2001, Format Type in Language).

Combinations: 2 things missing at 1 star and 3 things missing at 2 stars.

* Author Date: Editor, ed. "Chapter" (Format Type in Language). ''Work''.

** And Editor: "Chapter" (Format Type in Language). ''Work''.

** And Chapter: Editor (ed.). ''Work''. (Format Type in Language).

** And one of Format/Type/Language: Trivial.

** And Work: Editor (ed.). "Chapter" (Format Type in Language).

* Author Editor: "Chapter" (Date Format Type in Language). ''Work''.

** And Chapter: ''Work'' (Date Format Type in Language).

** And one of Format/Type/Language: Trivial.

** And Work: "Chapter" (Date Format Type in Language).

* Author Chapter: Editor, ed. (Date). ''Work'' (Format Type in Language).

** And one of Format/Type/Language: Trivial.

** And Work: Error.

* Author and one of Format or Type or Language: Trivial.

** And Work: Editor, ed. (Date). "Chapter" (Format Type in Language).

* Author Work: Editor, ed. (Date). "Chapter" (Format Type in Language).

* Editor Date: Author. "Chapter" (FTL). ''Work''.

** And Chapter: Author. ''Work'' (Format Type in Language).

** And one of Format or Type or Language: Trivial

** And Work: Author. "Chapter" (Format Type in Language).

* Editor Chapter: Trivial Missing Chapter.

** And one of Format or Type or Language: Trivial

** And Work: Error.

* Editor and one of Format or Type or Language: Trivial Missing Editor.

** And Work: Author (Date). "Chapter" (Format Type in Language).

* Editor Work: Trivial Missing Editor.

* Date Chapter: Trivial Missing Chapter.

** And one of Format or Type or Language: Trivial.

* Date and one of Format or Type or Language: Trivial Missing Date.

** And Work: Trivial.

* Date and Work: Trivial Missing Work.

* Format or Type or Language and one of others: Trivial.

** And all three: Author (Date). "Chapter". In Editor (ed.). ''Work''.

** And Work: Trivial.

* Format or Type or Language and Work: Trivial.

In general: FTL can reasonably be considered as one unit. It sometimes has Date added. It takes a while to get to the point where it doesn't display at all. Could probably be changed in the module today pretty easily (+- ChapterFormat versus Format). --[[User:Izno|Izno]] ([[User talk:Izno|talk]]) 03:34, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

: Related discussion: [[Help talk:Citation Style 1#Why language in between series title and volume number?]]

: -- [[User:PBSMatthiaspaul|PBSMatthiaspaul]] ([[User talk:PBSMatthiaspaul|talk]]) 1308:4145, 1431 JuneMay 20132020 (UTC)