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==Discussion at [[:Talk:Transformers (film)#Reception in the lead|Talk:Transformers (film) §&nbsp;Reception in the lead]]==

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==Discussion at [[:Talk:Sinners (2025 film)#Mid and post-credit scenes|Talk:Sinners (2025 film) §&nbsp;Mid and post-credit scenes]]==

Well I'm stumped for this piece of ''[[Jurassic Park (film)|Jurassic Park]]'' information. Video or Book? [[User:Wiki-newbie|Wiki-newbie]] 16:38, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

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== Casablanca discussion ==

Good job on the sources. Check this page www.mtv.com/ontv/movieawards/ma06 for the MTV awards. Hopefully that will drop you off at the 2006 awards...I can't view it here at work. [[User:Bignole|Bignole]] 21:14, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

:I'll go check it when I get home, I get off at 5pm. I'll see how my computer handles MTC.com. Never really been there before. [[User:Bignole|Bignole]] 21:23, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

::It looks good. I'm going to go see if I can get that MTV award. [[User:Bignole|Bignole]] 22:16, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

:::Didn't get it from MTV, but I got it from another source. [[User:Bignole|Bignole]] 22:24, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi, Erik. Can you please give your thoughts on the discussion at [[Talk:Casablanca (film)#Addition of Dooley and Veidt Photos and Shocked, Shocked quotes.]] if you have the time? Thanks, [[User:Sjones23|Lord Sjones23]] ([[User talk:Sjones23|talk]] - [[User:Sjones23/Wikipedia contributions|contributions]]) 21:50, 18 June 2025 (UTC)

Well, I got the sources for the released date of the two version of the DVD, and the special edition that containted the comic book. The rest of that stuff (the last part) seems a bit like Original Research, at least the way it reads. Like someone that maybe couldn't find a copy of what they wanted and is doing a lot of assuming. [[User:Bignole|Bignole]] 22:37, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

== Good article reassessment for [[Spider-Man in film]] ==

:What do you think about this http://www.movieweb.com/dvd/news/08/9708.php [[User:Bignole|Bignole]] 22:44, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

[[Spider-Man in film]] has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the [[Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/Spider-Man in film/1 |reassessment page]]. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. [[User:Hog Farm|Hog Farm]] _{''[[User talk:Hog Farm|Talk]]''} 01:29, 30 July 2025 (UTC)

::You had the chance to look at the above link? It talks about the sales of ''BB''. It doesn't say anything about running out of stock, but it mentions the DVD selling almost 4 million it's first week, or something to that affect. [[User:Bignole|Bignole]] 01:43, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

:::I prefer ComingSoon.net, they are a bit more well known. We'll use yours. Enjoy the party. [[User:Bignole|Bignole]] 02:08, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

== Plots ==

You may want to voice your opinion over here: [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Films]]. [[User:Bignole|Bignole]] 00:19, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

==Superman==

I commented [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Superman:_The_Man_of_Steel_%282009_film%29#Deleted]. It has been 3 times deleted and has returned with a different title. Afd might be the way to go.--[[User:DakotaKahn|<font color="darkred">'''''Dakota'''''</font>]] 00:59, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

== plural links ==

From [[MoS:L]]: "When forming plurals, do so thus: <code><nowiki>[[language]]s</nowiki></code>. This is clearer to read in wiki form than<code><nowiki> [[language|languages]]</nowiki></code>&nbsp;&mdash; and easier to type." &ndash;&nbsp;[[User:Flamurai|flamurai]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Flamurai|t]]) 12:40, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

== Bond, James Bond ==

This ''Casino Royale'' page is now up to 51kb. I just removed the "gadgets" section (which was 3 kb by itself) on the grounds of lack of Notablity. I'm pretty sure there are several other sections that lack notability as well, and many more that could be dramatically trimmed. What do you think? [[User:Bignole|Bignole]] 23:26, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

:Wow, I didn't know you were Deaf, and that really sucks that they don't have accessability for you. Does your theater, where you live, get captioned films or are you forced to go to a separate facility to watch movies when they come out? I'll see what I can do about the article's sections based on what you've suggested; I've already seen it so it won't spoil anything for me. I know what you mean about the articles spoiling the films for you though. I removed a bit about Harry, but not before following the link to a place that was detailing the whole movie. Don't care if it's true or not--backed out real quick. Right now I have to get ready for 3 finals for this coming week, go figure that two of them are ASL and Deaf Culture. I'll definitely have a lot of time after those test to sit down and go through all the sections and see what appears to be relevant. [[User:Bignole|Bignole]] 23:48, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

::LOL, yeah, I know the difference; I just assumed it was the other. You mentioned "home for breaks", where do you go to school? That really sucks that you have to travel so far to enjoy a movie on the big screen. I guess that's the trouble with society; if you aren't in the majority than you sometimes it's harder to enjoy the same privileges. Thanks for the wish on the exams; ASL I know, just kinda of came easy to me..i think because of the visualness of it. I hope you get to see ''Casino'' soon, it's a really good Bond film. [[User:Bignole|Bignole]] 00:54, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

:::He did it because he didn't like my quotations around "the tell". I did the quotations because "the tell" is a poker term, and as it was it read like he was "telling" him something. [[User:Bignole|Bignole]] 23:49, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

::::Good one. I don't think either one of us thought about that. There appears to be a growing animosity between us for some reason. He doesn't agree with some the things that I have changed. I'll put in the "poker tell", because I think that's something that can be easily agreed upon. Thanks for that one. [[User:Bignole|Bignole]] 00:00, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Ours has mainly been over the plot. First I tagged it for being too long (he disagreed). Then when I removed three things, two of which were "he's next seen" and one was "Casino Royale's major villain" and he wanted to label the plot "in universe". It's all over Talk Page. [[User:Bignole|Bignole]]

:I figured as much. I was sure you'd put your opinion in, for one way or the other, had you seen the movie. I've got to step back for a bit so I can study for these two exams I have tomorrow and Thursday. I think the deepest I'm going to get until Thursday afternoon will be reverting any vandalism, something I can do quickly without taking any time (if I'm on the computer). Hope that dispute between you and the other editor on The Fountain clears up. [[User:Bignole|Bignole]] 00:34, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

== Schindler's List/prank ==

I updated the [[Schindler's List]] talk page with an explanation of the list/prank thing, could you please give your thoughts on why it was reverted? If you didn't believe list is German for cunning, I've clarified I'm not making it up, but if you thought something else please let me know so I can tweak my comment.[[User:Cantras|Cantras]] 08:20, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

== Re: Ant-Man ==

Feh. It happens. I've fixed the dab page so it's at least up to snuff. You could always request expansion, but honestly, I wouldn't bother. Like [[Kid Flash]], [[Mastermind (comics)]] and several others, it was probably created by someone who didn't have the time, energy, resources to make something like [[Robin (comics)|Robin]] or [[Speedy (comics)|Speedy]]. My advice to you is either leave it—Not a bad article, really, especially for a stub—or try to expand the Ant-Man page a bit while merging that content. [[User:Ace Class Shadow|Ace Class Shadow]]; [[User talk:Ace Class Shadow|My talk]]. 03:58, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

==Image Removal for no reason==

The trailer DOES exist, and showing a pic that matches the description ISN'T invalid. I dislike heavy-handed editing. I defy you to prove it's irrelevent. Case in point: NOTHING in the Halo 3 ESPN ad occurs in the game, which is months from release. No one' removed pics from it. Why? IT'S AN ACTUAL AD. The Transformers trailer is an actual ad, and therefore relevent. [[User:JAF1970|JAF1970]] 17:36, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

== RE:''The Fountain'' ==

I have re-reviewed ''[[The Fountain]]''.--<big><font face="Magneto">[[User:Esprit15d|Esprit15d]]</font></big> ([[User_talk:Esprit15d|talk]] ¤ [[Special:Contributions/Esprit15d|contribs]]) 20:31, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

== [[Superman: The Man of Steel (film)‎]] ==

Seems like we have it again. This user keeps removing the deletion tag. [[User:Bignole|Bignole]]

The word 'snitch' somehow feels appropriate at the moment. Believe me, I in no feel victimised, and am not seeking to be a nuisance. However, I do think the sequel deserves an article of its own. And as the imdb page reveals, this is the current title. At the moment Wikipedia is not up-to-date, all-be-it on a relatively unimportant article. [[User:Possecomitatus|Possecomitatus]] 21:59, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

I have no answer on the Bond front. It was a counter-argument used to defend against the "Superman hasn't even got a script" argument

I could do all that, but to be honest I'm bored now, having already wasted far to much time on this. If Bignole had messaged me and explained, in polite, reasonable tones then I would have quite happily bowed to his presumably greater wisdom. But the frankly vaguely snotty tone of the message ticked me off a little. You both believe the article to be in violation of the thing. Fine. I think you're wrong, but there we go. Perhaps a reference to the working title on the Superman Returns page would be more appropriate. And incidentally IMDB is the most reliable movie web site. Certainly more up-to-date than Wikipedia. Probably because of stuff like this.

Lol fair enough. Although as a wannabe professional in the film business, I've found it invaluable and insanely accurate most of the time. Actually I quite like the idea of Aunt May is carnage... {{unsigned2|18:20, December 7, 2006|Possecomitatus}}

:I was just thinking about this title. It seems like a cheap trick to pull from the Batman sequel (i.e. name you film after your character's most famous monicker). Oh, and are we still going to look for Gotham City images? [[User:Bignole|Bignole]] 15:58, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

== Re:Gotham ==

I wasn't sure if we were still looking for one. I don't think we really do, because a City is a City, and because there isn't that much going for that section to really need an image I would assume. [[User:Bignole|Bignole]] 16:10, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

== FF2 ==

take a look at what I've done if you're still up? Also, LEX LETHAL is upset that after talking to you, I change things, so I think, and hope, he'll give it a try at working with us. We'll see what he does. [[User:ThuranX|ThuranX]] 06:16, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

== Favor ==

Could you take a look at the [[Talk: Smallville (Season 1)#External links]] for me, you always have good insight into things and I feel as though I'm being ganged up on over there. I'd appreciate any opinion you have about that. [[User:Bignole|Bignole]] 22:43, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

:Tell me about it. I find myself checking Wiki when I check my email at school in the hall. lol. I'm glad you liked ''Casino Royale'', and that you finally got to see it. I have one more final and a 5 page paper. The paper's on an interview that I did, that was recorded on a DVD...I check the DVD only to find that it recorded just 2 seconds of the interview. [[User:Bignole|Bignole]] 23:02, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

::The size thing is an illusion. Matt and Peregrine are adding as much "fluff" to the article so that they can get there way. There was a vote awhile ago about individual pages, and they wanted them, but the majority, including third party admins said that the episodes couldn't handle indivual pages. Now, they are attempting to reinstate what was voted against. Peregrine's already relinked all the headers to pages that were supposed to have been deleted, and they persist that 30 kb is too large, especially when Peregrine's own [[List of Smallville episodes]] page is 65kb. [[User:Bignole|Bignole]] 23:06, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

:::I left a message. I think the call to revoke GA status was probably rushed. I think there may be more of a concern for ambiguity than NPOV violation or OR. My suggestion was that it probably should have been brought to the Talk Page first, and if it couldn't be cleared up there, then take action. (In the middle of this), it seems he unchallenged it. Good luck with the article, you've done a lot of good work with it already. [[User:Bignole|Bignole]] 18:09, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

::::I'll check out what he says. What does my talk page look like to you? It works fine for me. I used 1 equal sign so that I wouldn't have the line underneath the "To Report Vandalism". Is it screwing up the page when you look at it? [[User:Bignole|Bignole]] 15:39, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

If you get a chance, it seems Peregrine is not blanking and redirecting the Season 1 page to his "list of Episode" page. [[User:Bignole|Bignole]] 19:24, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

==Images==

Thanks a lot Erik for your prompt response. Right after I msg'd you, I found that the problem was fixed, so I removed the msg not to bug you for no use. The Fair use link however still comes handy for the future. Thanks & Regards--[[User:Goarany|Goarany]] 21:10, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

==Deja Vu Edits==

You commented that I didn't use references for a recent edit. Not sure what you're referring to - My text only referred to a specific book, which I sited completely with author and title. There were some other wonky facts around my edit, on which I repaired some terrible English - but they aren't my facts and you can strip them out if you wish. [[User:Rossgk|Rossgk]] 21:47, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

:Read your followup about "original research". My comment that the plot is the same as the cited book is an observation. I'm not sure why it would warrant concern anymore than the 'unreferenced' points all around it. Every one of those bullets in that list at the bottom of the entry are identical observations about elements of the movie - the vehicle, the HLGold book etc... What gives? Statement of a fact is hardly research - this is the same as that... there's no subjective statement or opinion element. <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:Rossgk|Rossgk]] ([[User talk:Rossgk|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Rossgk|contribs]]) 21:59, 10 December 2006 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned -->

== Erik's "fan mail" ==

What happened with this guy (Soupy)? Seems like it came out of the blue, did you correct his vandalism somewhere else? Congratulations on the "Satisfied Customer" though, you still have to get one to actually create a name against you..lol. [[User:Bignole|Bignole]] 01:10, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

: Thanks for dealing with 'Soupy'. [[User:Ben MacDui|Ben MacDui]] <small>[[User talk:Ben MacDui|(Talk)]]</small> 09:08, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

== ''[[Batman Begins]]'' ==

Some time ago, you voted against the [[Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Batman Begins|nomination]] of ''Batman Begins'' as a Featured Article. The article has come a long way since, and I was wondering if you could take the time to share any suggestions you might have, either on my user talk page or the film article's own talk page. I do not believe that the article is yet ready for another FA nomination as I have improvements in mind. I hope that you will be able to share any insights you might have to help improve the article. --[[User:Erikster|Erik]] (<small>'''^{[[User talk:Erikster|talk]]}/_{[[Special:Contributions/Erikster|contrib]]}'''</small>) @ 01:26, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

:Hi Erik, and thanks for the invitation. It's greatly improved and is well on its way to Featured Article. I think the "Production", "Adaptation" and "Design" sections are well done. I think on the whole the writing is good but could be improved particularly in the plot section which is quite static. I think this could be helped by merging some of the sentences so that 2 short sentences become 1 longer sentence. I also think that repeated words create a stilted effect, for example " Bruce is freed the next day, and travels to the top of a mountain to begin ''his training'' in the art of crime fighting. Wayne completes ''his training'', apparently overcoming his fear of bats, but is then challenged to execute a murderer." Also in the same paragraph "apparent" and "apparently" are both used. On the other hand where you have two unrelated ideas in one sentence, the result is awkward, as in the last sentence. Overcoming a fear of bats and being challenged to commit murder are unrelated, so rather than using one sentence to flow between two points with a common theme, you've got two unrelated themes. Also, in the space of one paragraph the hero is referred to as "Bruce" and as "Wayne". Here's what I would suggest to merge the sentences, reduce the repetition, and so on. ''Wayne is freed the next day, and travels to a mountain-top facility to begin training in the art of crime fighting, and in the process overcomes his fear of bats. Challenged by Ra's to commit a murder, Wayne hesitates..... etc".

:There are examples of slang terms, which should be avoided. For example "completely ''in the pocket'' of Falcone" could be, "completely under Falcone's control". Another one is "[[development hell]]". I'm really against jargon. There's a place for it but it doesn't set the right tone here. I think we should strive to be scholarly rather than merely clever. This is a particularly bad one to use because it links to an article that is tagged with "original research" and "cleanup" tags - zero credibility. Could the same be said of "rebooted" (in the lead)? The article it links to has no sources - I don't know enough about the subject to be sure if it's jargon, but it looks like it. I think the lead should be kept very clean and clear and people shouldn't have to click on links to see what words mean, as it breaks the concentration. Leave that for the article but keep the lead simple. (I can't find "rebooted" in the article anywhere. Maybe I missed it but it shouldn't be in the lead if it doesn't appear in the article anyhow as the lead is meant to summarize, rather than present concepts in isolation. )

:The critical reception needs to be beefed up. My main criticism would be of the lead paragraph, which should be a summary of the article. Half of the lead is related to the film's reception and is roughly equal to the depth of coverage this topic is given in the article. I think it's the wrong balance as the topic is treated with too much emphasis in the lead, and too little emphasis in the article. Comments such as the film was "darker" in the lead paragraph - I can't find anything that obviously supports this in the article. I can understand what you're trying to say there, but I don't think it comes across as well as it could.

:Images. Any fair use image must be carefully chosen. I would ensure that the image description page contains a clear rationale as to why ''that particular image'' was chosen, rather than any generic rationales. Something along the lines of "this image is important in discussing the film because it shows (and then be very clear about what you consider it shows). Image captions in the article are also important because they very subtly say "this is why this image is here, it's really important", and maybe the text of the article needs to be expanded so that the image fits in with the text. You can bet your life that in FAC someone will challenge them, so you should be careful not to give anyone a reason for questioning them. Their necessity should be patently obvious. For example [[:Image:Gordon-batman-rooftop.jpg]] with the caption ''Batman and Gordon assume new responsibilities'' is particularly weak. I've seen the film, but if I hadn't seen it, I would be wondering what the point is.

:I think the article is very, very good, which is why I've commented at such length here. It has a great deal of potential. You've done some excellent work there. [[User:Rossrs|Rossrs]] 10:08, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

::I tried to tweak the plot per his suggestions, may need a bit more..not sure. Should we remove "reboot" from the lead, or discuss it further in the "production" section? I'll see if I can just use a better word for now. Maybe just simply "restarted the continuity of the franchise"?? [[User:Bignole|Bignole]] 16:09, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

:::Ok, just wanted to make sure, because I wasn't clear if he wanted it out or just more content about it elsewhere. Good luck on your finals, I have a paper due tonight and a final Thursday (most of mine were last week). I just started a new project [[The Detective]], so that's going to be one of my priorities here soon. I got tired of having the red link on my user page. [[User:Bignole|Bignole]] 16:52, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

::::I have no doubt. We have several <s>good</s>great editors working on these articles, so I have no doubt we can whip these articles into the best shape they can be in. [[User:Bignole|Bignole]] 00:34, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

I was wondering what you were going to do about that. I'll get rid of it and just point him to my talk page when he has questions (unless you are willing to answer any rumormill questions he may have). [[User:Bignole|Bignole]] 20:19, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

== 300 ==

It seems like the article is really your baby, but I was wondering if it'd be fine to start trimming the article's production and vision sections for a full chronological article given the approaching release. Any suggestions? {{unsigned2|15:26, December 11, 2006|Wiki-newbie}}

Um, ok mate. I'd rather stick to my Transformers and Bionicles. [[User:Wiki-newbie|Wiki-newbie]] 20:31, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Well, I'd basically consider the article done. Until then, copyedits, as well as a Response and DVD section. [[User:Wiki-newbie|Wiki-newbie]] 20:42, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

There is the possibility of a Soundtrack article. Still, post me some of those excellent Miller information and I'll dig up the suitable stuff. [[User:Wiki-newbie|Wiki-newbie]] 20:50, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

== Smallville ==

Hi. Do you find pages like [[Hothead (Smallville episode)]] objectionable? - [[User:Peregrinefisher|Peregrinefisher]] 21:41, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

:Just curiuous, because you said discuss on talk page with your revert, and we know how Bignole and I feel, so I'm wondering how you feel about including stuff like a guest cast in TV articles. - [[User:Peregrinefisher|Peregrinefisher]] 00:29, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

::Sounds like you feel the same as Bignole. I guess all I can say is that i feel the individual pages are importanant for a few reasons. A summary that someone not familiar with the show can easily follow requires a bit more info than the season page has. Also, the guest stars work better as bulleted lists, but when you try and fit them in to the season page, it makes it too tall. And having the external links on a per episode basis will allow people to find the imdb and tv.com versions with less scrolling and clicking. - [[User:Peregrinefisher|Peregrinefisher]] 01:04, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

== sorry ==

Sorry for funking up the spidey stuff. Guess I have lots to learn there. Please forgive my shitty comments. [[User:Boggydark|Boggydark]] 03:59, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

== Re:Cleanups ==

Took care of it just before I read your message. Also took care of the "ballbusting" again. I directed Harley to the archived discussion we had and explained it all. I also told the Anon about ballbusting. Have you read those articles, ballbusting and it's affiliates? They are rather crude. [[User:Bignole|Bignole]] 21:00, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

:LOL, I'm sorry, but I would probably not be able to control the laughter for hours if I came online and found "Today's Featured Article: The [[ballbusting]]". I can see it now, with citations from local dominatrix clubs. I think if Wikipedia had featured articles like that, it would say a lot of things. 1. Look, you can find encyclopedic content in anything. 2. They are corrupting our youths (I'm sure someone will say that) 3. We have some seriously lonely people in the world that could actually turn that article into a FA class. [[User:Bignole|Bignole]] 21:10, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

::Well, I knew that [[Die Hard]] was based on Roderick Thorp's [[Nothing Lasts Forever]], and I'm a really big fan of ''Die Hard''. To me, DH is one of the best action films ever made. So I wanted to read the book, NLF, but then I found out that it was a sequel to ''The Detective'' (which also had a movie). So I ordered both of the books (haven't read them yet, I have to finish a King book that I am reading first). Then I got tired of looking at a red link on my user page, so I searched WikiProjectNovels for a template and created the page myself. I've been trying to get general information that won't spoil the book for me before I read it, then after I do I'm going to fill in the rest. I moved everything to a sandbox because someone came through and removed all the sample sections because they didn't have any information. I'm going to work on it in my sandbox and then transfer. I don't think I'll have too many editors working on the article, it's been red on "Nothing Lasts Forever" and "Die Hard" forever. [[User:Bignole|Bignole]] 21:35, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

:::I love King. I loved the "Dark Tower" series, it was awesome. Right now I'm reading his old short story book "Skeleton Crew" (almost finished it). I read "Cell" when it came out awhile ago, that was good. I was going to jump back into those two Dan Brown books that are a lesser known than DaVinci Code and Angels & Demons, they're "Deception Point" and "Digital Fortress", but now that I'm working on ''The Detective'' I need to read that so that the page doesn't sit in limbo forever. It's a really thick book so it may take me a bit since I don't tend to read while I'm at home all that much, but since Breaks coming up I should have more time to do that. [[User:Bignole|Bignole]] 21:45, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

==Apocolypto==

Thank you! At the moment, I was just planning to add in informaiton from this one article I was reading. I may be able to add in more from the other references later, though. Best, [[User:Johntex|'''Johntex''']]\^{[[User_talk:Johntex|talk]]} 21:14, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

== Help me understand ==

I have added a link to some movie review pages that were biblical in nature like The Nativity Story. The link was to a page on GraceCentered.com, which is a Christian website that has news and movie reviews in addition to other things. The authors write for newspapers around the country, have been published by top publishing companies and many hold Ph.D's in Theology and New/Old Testament. Their opinions, when it comes to movies about biblical text are very valuable in terms of biblical and historical accuracy. I don't understand why you would remove a review by a Bible scholar from a website that is on the same level as Christianity Today. <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:Leesw|Leesw]] ([[User talk:Leesw|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Leesw|contribs]]) 02:47, 13 December 2006 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned -->

== hay ==

nonsense? I here this stuff all the time, on tv too. [[User:Boggydark|Boggydark]] 03:18, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

:don't call me son, pops. who do you think you are? {{unsigned2|23:26, December 13, 2006|Boggydark}}

SHEEEEEEEEEYYAAAAAAAA!!! had to get that out. [[User:Boggydark|Boggydark]] 04:04, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

:I bid you "good luck" in this for the evening. I have my last final tomorrow morning and I can't be up all night trying to decypher/help/keep my sanity with Boggydark. [[User:Bignole|Bignole]] 04:12, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

:congrats on yur finals being done, and I really dislike this guy. I am beginning to suspect that this is deliberate trolling by an experienced user with a grudge. [[User:ThuranX|ThuranX]] 04:18, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

::After a few more exchanges with him, and a review of his contribs, i DO believe he's an experienced editor screwing with us. If he keeps this up, i'll hit Checkuser and the other Admin pages, unless you beat me to it. [[User:ThuranX|ThuranX]] 05:33, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

::I haven't followed up yet, and he isn't doing any editing tonight. Either he grew tired for a few, quit totally, or is waiting and biding his time... we'll wait for if/when he does it again. [[User:ThuranX|ThuranX]] 03:58, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

== Pirates ==

[http://comingsoon.net/films.php?id=8627 ComingSoon] hasn't changed the spelling of the title, and they recently released two photos from the film. I'm beginning to distrust this foreign site's poster. [[User:Bignole|Bignole]] 13:45, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

:I think everyone put the apostrophe initially, for grammer. BOM.com tends not to actually update their information, as they also had a budget for this film before the shooting began. They were using a source that said the budget would be 450 million for the two movies, and they automatically assume that you just divide that in two. They also still list Superman Returns with a 260 mill budget. Anyway, my point is has anyone thought the poster was a fake? It wouldn't be the first time, we've had fake posters with Spider-Man that looked real enough. It wouldn't be hard to take the teaser poster and just add some text to it (if you knew what you were doing). I'm not suggesting another move, because it's probably still going to be bad enough will people determined that it doesn't have the apostrophe. [[User:Bignole|Bignole]] 17:05, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

== The Fountain ==

Don't be a hypocrite! Do not delete a passage without proper discussion.

The passage stays as stands until discussion takes place:

"The end represents a [[catharsis]] much different or contrasting to the end presented in Steven Soderbergh's 2002 film adaptation [[Solaris (2002 film)|''Solaris'' (film)]], i.e. without the idea of rebirth for both persons, Hugh Jackman's character mourns the death of his better half. Thus, the conclusion in the finale of The Fountain is not represenative of a the alchemical wedding of Jung; instead, The Fountain is a film about Freudian grief and loss where the "mother" is buried. The mother symbolized by the [[World Tree]] is symboliccaly buried in the unconscious mind, so that the father of the conscious mind may live. Thus, it could be argued that the film represents the director's rejection of [[Kabbalah]] or Jung's [[Alchemy]], i.e. a man unwilling to embrace his mother at the expense of his father. The death of the woman symbolizes that this connection has been severed and that only memory remains." {{unsigned2|18:24, December 14, 2006|70.253.165.71}}

==The Mummy 3 (film)==

I think we should leave it at this for right now since there has not been an official released name yet. Once the title is announced (the film might also be canceled if it doesn't get the cast it wants), then we could move it to the correct one. --[[User:Nehrams2020|Nehrams2020]] 05:47, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

== Re:30 Days of Night ==

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|style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid green;" | A "Did You Know" Award for a mention in the "Did You Know" section in SlashFilm. That's totally awesome. [[User:Bignole|Bignole]] 18:15, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

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:It's no problem. Someone else reverted him, I just warned him. Yeah, I copied your page. lol. If you check my history it says "totally stole this from Erik". [[User:Bignole|Bignole]] 19:07, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

== DO NOT INCUR THE WRATH OF BURR BOB! ==

HHMMMMM!!! {{unsigned2|14:27, December 15, 2006|Burr Bob}}

== [[Spider-Man 3]] ==

Considering I've been remolding ''[[300 (film)|300]]'' and ''[[The Dark Knight (film)|The Dark Knight]]'', do you think we should do the same for ''[[Spider-Man 3]]''? The Villains section only exists at a time when nothing about the story was confirmed. I'd like to merge it with Production. Do respond quickly, because I need to go to bed soon, but I'll probably perform it tomorrow. [[User:Wiki-newbie|Wiki-newbie]] 22:02, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I'll be keeping it cool for ''Spider-Man 3'', and I'll be trying to apply it to ROTK, as the Post-Production stuff isn't very linear. But do note, I did it very early on for ''Transformers'', but I'm not going to apply it to the 'Transformers on screen' section as there's no other way I can approach it. Anyway, have a nice [[Christmas]]. [[User:Wiki-newbie|Wiki-newbie]] 15:34, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

Well I've said before that I feel the likes of Sandman, Venom and Goblin correspond more to screenwriting. [[User:Wiki-newbie|Wiki-newbie]] 16:05, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

:It's occurred to me that there has never been a discussion involving this articles status. I don't think we've ever issued it to a peer review let alone a Good Article review. It doesn't matter if the film is yet to be released, because [[Lost (TV series)|Lost]] is a featured article that is still on the air. Have you ever thought about sending the article in for a peer review? I think a few tweaks to the format (which is being taken care of right now) are the only thing that should hold us back from a peer review. I think it would be good to get some outside views on the article's status. What do you think? [[User:Bignole|Bignole]] 16:16, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

::That's what Wiki-newb was talking about, the future film class. I think there should probably be some gray area to that since the film is in post-production. I was going to suggest maybe a simple review to atleast get some feedback for the article, since you need a lot of it once you start heading down the "FA" status path. [[User:Bignole|Bignole]] 16:29, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

:::Yeah, that would probably be a good idea. [[User:Bignole|Bignole]] 17:01, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

::::I've noticed this data-overlap thing too. stop postingthere for a few, see if it cataches up. [[User:ThuranX|ThuranX]] 18:15, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

I don't know what's going on, I had to step out to get some last minute christmas gifts, and stuff. I came back to all this. If you go back through the history, and read through, it's quite funny from an outsiders point of view (obviously not to you guys since it was happening to you, I'd be rather frustrated if it happened to me). Once it get's all square I'll start commenting on the issues that you guys have brought up. [[User:Bignole|Bignole]] 18:30, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

== Spiderman rating ==

Well, I wasn't planning on reverting it back if someone else disagreed (if ACS had I might have gone for pushing the 3RR), but thanks for the heads up anyway. [[User:Hbdragon88|Hbdragon88]] 21:54, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

===Belated===

Don't mean to be a butt here, and I know you're kidding me some, but explain to me how my thoughts are belated? I mean, the importance level wasn't changed yet. This is so frustrating. Everytime I commment on this article, you guys nip at my heals (some biting harder than others). It's ''incredibly'' discouraging to those of us who really want to help. Again, help me understand why my post was not up to standards? [[User:Veracious Rey|Veracious Rey]] 16:00, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

:Thanks for your reply, Erik. I completely understand, though I'm sure I'll stumble a few more times before the end. Maybe you could pass along your wise advise to ThuranX. He'll heed your wisdom before mine, me thinks :) [[User:Veracious Rey|Veracious Rey]] 16:24, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

== Dark Dragon Flame==

It was spam not contributing anything to the article there is no real point in keeping it, I'm not going to say that I should had stayed away from it but it was stupid seeing something like that on a talk page, however my point is valid if you keep them there they will turn it into a forum, don't you think it's true?-However I admit my mistake and won't reply to anyone that does to keep it from becoming a full argument.-[[User:Dark Dragon Flame|Dark Dragon Flame]] 19 December 2006

== Re:''The Fountain'' (redux) ==

I think what I'll do is read through, and as I'm reading, drop a line here with something new that I see. This way I won't forget something if I wait till I've read through it all. So, the first thing that seemed out of place was in the production (I skipped the plot because I haven't seen the film). It was the ending of the first paragraph and the beginning of the second. <blockquote>The start date for production was set to begin in summer 2002.[6]

:Production was set for late October 2002 in Queensland and Sydney, Australia. </blockquote><br>It just seemed to jump from talking about setting a date for production of "The Last Man" to setting a date for "The Fountain". There isn't an explaination (don't know if you don't need one, or can't find one) as to why the title changed and why the production was supposed to start in the summer of 2002, but was pushed to October. Am I missing something? [[User:Bignole|Bignole]] 18:04, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

::If they just got delayed or something, I'd just write something in that will help transition those two sentences, because you say it was set for this date, but immediately follow with a different date. I want to say "if you can't find out why, then just say 'for unseen circumstances it was pushed back to..', but I think that'll draw criticism on the review boards. As for the title, I think saying "now titled ''The Fountain''" sounds like it was originally titled ''The Last Man'' (which you said it wasn't, it was just a working title). Maybe something like "now officially titled ''The Fountain''". Also, why did Cate Blanchet leave? It just said she was gone, did she leave for a reason (like because the film was canceled when Pitt left)? [[User:Bignole|Bignole]] 18:12, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

:::Yeah, it seems to be one of those tricky things. I saw your changes, and they look good, it's just one of those hard choices for wording. I don't really see any better way to put it. It's hard for me to read through the sources because I'm at work (dumb state computers and their firewalls). My only concern is that if they had contracts with the studio, can we say that the studio released them from their contracts when they ceased production, because saying "released ..... duties" sounds that way. It may be one of those things that we'll have to wait for another review to respond about (if they do). Now, on to the "casting" section. The rest looks good IMO. [[User:Bignole|Bignole]] 18:31, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

::::It seems to me that "Themes" should probably come after "Visual effects" and "Musical score", seeing as VE and MS are production material, and "Themes" requires the film to be finished as you are using a people's interpretations upon viewing the film (minus Afronsky's). [[User:Bignole|Bignole]] 18:46, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

The article looks real good, the rest of it flows well. Could "Graphic Novel" be part of "Marketing"? [[User:Bignole|Bignole]] 19:42, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

:First thing would be to find Ebert and Roeper, seeing as they are top of the food chain when it comes to critics. It's probably also look for any reviews in highly acclaimed science fiction and fantasy magazines, seeing as the film is promoted as a SciFi/fantasy film. It might be good to get some criticisms from religous venues because of all the religous overtones (Tree of Life is kind of in your face..lol) for their experiences with the film if you can. I think once you get some more critiques it will be easier to balance the section. [[User:Bignole|Bignole]] 20:47, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

::You're welcome, it was no problem. I just hope that whatever I said was helpful to you. The only thing I find weird is that you don't get a notification that an article is "Good" on the actual article, it's on the Talk Page. It think it should be on the article, so that we can be proud of every accomplishment in Wikipedia. Anyway, I'm sure that if/when I finally finish "The Detective" that I'll be knocking at your cyber door with a "please...". I'll be home next week so I'm sure that I'll have plenty of time to finish Skeleton Crew and get deep into "The Detective", won't have much else to do. Let me know if you need anymore help with anything else. [[User:Bignole|Bignole]] 20:58, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

== Movies ==

Actually I went searching for yours, but they kept directing me to Orphans and Brother's keeper. It wasn't a Dracula film. I have Dracula films, original and new ones. [[User:Bignole|Bignole]] 15:57, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

:I usually try googling key words and then going to Amazon to check out the films. For me, since they were genre specific I tried going through all of Amazon's "vampire" related films, but it was kinda a long list. The closest I came to the two movies was the second film, but I haven't bought the movie yet to find out if it is the right one. It's about sister vampires and them kidnapping a couple on a trip. I don't remember the woman specifically, but I think that was why the man was trying to leave, to get back to his wife. Not sure, my problem is that whenever you look for vampire movies that are female centric you get porn. I would try to remember some more details, other than that, maybe a film forum where all people do is talk about films all day. Sometimes you run across people that have seen some obscure films. [[User:Bignole|Bignole]] 16:07, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

== Importance debate ==

In case you're wondering, I've decided to give importance and quality scale ratings the Future class for those films yet to be released. [[User:Wiki-newbie|Wiki-newbie]] 18:05, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

:Sorry, that was an accident. Anyway, if this answer is the best option, why didn't someone think of it sooner? Could have saved alot of typing from all of us. [[User:Veracious Rey|Veracious Rey]] 18:23, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

That the article is Future isn't in question. My question is why remove the mid level importance rating? Even if you do, the article is still rated future. Why not leave the mid level rating to serve as an impetus for change? Wiki-newbie needs to clarify his stance. [[User:Veracious Rey|Veracious Rey]] 18:29, 20 December 2006 (UTC)