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== Case sensitivity ==

Does anybody know if there is a feature comparison between different wiki softwares? - [[de:Benutzer:SoniC|SoniC]]

In the following portion:

== CGI ==

<blockquote>By the time [[MediaWiki]] appeared, this convention had been largely abandoned in favor of explicitly marking links in edited source code with double square brackets. Page names thus did not interrupt the flow of English and could follow standard English capitalization convention. '''Case-sensitivity on the first letter but not subsequent letters''' supported standard English capitalization conventions and let writers author their pages in ordinary English, with the linking of particular words and phrases afterward. This proved to be the critical change that allowed ordinary authors of English to write wiki pages, and non-technical users to read them. This policy was extended to other natural languages, avoiding the use of unusual-looking text or awkward capitalization that violates the language's own rules.</blockquote>

The article says wiki engines are usually implemented as a CGI script. Am I right to doubt about this? I guess the Perl wikis were dominating once, but what now with PHP...and Wikimedia?--[[User:Chealer|Chealer]] 06:33, 2004 Nov 17 (UTC)

== Text Wiki ==

Was the reverse meant in the part I've bolded? That is, shouldn't that say "Case-'''in'''sensitivity on just the first letter"? On Wikipedia (and other MediaWiki sites), for example, <nowiki>[[</nowiki>[[wiki software]]<nowiki>]]</nowiki> automatically works as a link, but <nowiki>[[</nowiki>[[wIKI SOFTWARE]]<nowiki>]]</nowiki> does not. (<nowiki>[[</nowiki>[[Wiki Software]]<nowiki>]]</nowiki> only works because an explicit redirect was set up.) It'd help if the section had citations, too. &mdash;[[User:Undomelin|Undomelin]] ([[User talk:Undomelin|talk]]) 20:56, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

Would this help in being able to convert from one wiki to another (e.g., PHPwiki to Mediawiki)? [[User:Brettz9|[[User:Brettz9|Brettz9]] [[User talk:Brettz9|(talk)]]]] 02:19, 25 Aug 2004 (UTC)

:Would what help?--[[User:Chealer|Chealer]] 06:18, 2004 Nov 17 (UTC)

:Thanks for noticing that, you're quite right! I've gone ahead and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wiki_software&type=revision&diff=1088539428&oldid=1088183488 fixed it] --[[User:RProgrammer|RProgrammer]] ([[User talk:RProgrammer|talk]]) 17:02, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

== Huge list of engines considered harmful ==

== Is [[Confluence (software)]] a wiki? ==

Should we do away with, or at least prune heavily, the list of engines in this article?

* [[Wiki:WikiEngines]] describes itself as "the canonical list of WikiEngines", whereas this list is doomed to being incomplete; that page also links to other resources on the topic.

* It's currently badly layed out (what kind of a sub-heading is "Microsoft"?)

* We have rather inconsistent information ("CitiWiki [8] (http://wiki.cs.cityu.edu.hk/citiwiki) has been called the "Wiki of the next generation"."; by whom, and meaning what exactly?)

* All the engines are <nowiki>[[linked]]</nowiki>, but most of them are probably non-encyclopedic, meriting a mention on this page ''at the very most''.

* As already mentioned, [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not|Wikipedia is not]] a [[web directory]].

I'm seeing the beginning of a slow-motion edit war on this article between what looks like disgruntled [[Confluence (software)]] users and myself. We should stop this now.

Perhaps we should just limit ourselves to a list of "popular or noteworthy wiki engines", and be quite harsh in our judgement of people declaring their own wikis "noteworthy". If not, someone needs to go through this list and make it a whole lot more consistent and, well, useful. - [[User:IMSoP|IMSoP]] 16:38, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)

On one side we have editors who believe that Confluence is no longer a wiki because it has abstracted away two features (wiki markup and what we would call the creation of a redlink as you are editing an article).

:We should keep, at the minimum, the ones which we have articles on. [[User:Angela|Angela]][[user talk:Angela|.]] 20:24, Oct 19, 2004 (UTC)

On my side are editors ... OK, so far just one editor, me ... who take a more ecumenical view of what a wiki is. I believe that the opening paragraph of the current version of [[Wiki]] is correct, and that "A wiki is a knowledge base website on which users collaboratively modify content and structure directly from the web browser." Confluence would continue to be that, even if it lost those two important features.

::Well, perhaps that should be "at minimum, the ones we ''should'' have articles on": there may well be worthy articles as yet unwritten ([[FlexWiki]], for instance, is arguably notable as being an [[open source]] project developed by [[Microsoft]]), and currently-existent articles on non-notable engines (possible examples: [[CitiWiki]], [[OpenWiki]]). Hence the criterion of "noteworthy": if it's worthy of an article, it's worthy of a place on this list. On the other hand, it may not be worthy of a whole article to itself, but be worth mentioning here in summary. - [[User:IMSoP|IMSoP]] 18:01, 20 Oct 2004 (UTC)

wwdada:

:Don't see the harm - there's also a fairly large list of [[Blog| Blog engines]], for instance (IMO, not even large enough). It will help people find the software that most fits their needs. - [[User:JavaWoman|JavaWoman]] 10:57, 27 Dec 2004 (UTC)

For the record, I am also a Confluence user of an older version that still has those features. When I have upgraded to the current version and lost those features, I will also be upset, but Confluence will still be a wiki. [[User:Vadder|Vadder]] ([[User talk:Vadder|talk]]) 18:45, 31 October 2019 (UTC)

Hi, I don't think people should take up Confluence at this stage thinking it is a Wiki. Confluence also (despite their size) do not own the definition of Wiki

The most essential functionality is the ability to make a link like this to "[Wiki Properties]" or "[Newly discovered Planet]" or "[New Products]".

Many in the comment chain on that issue have also indicated that without this functionality, (and especially with NO wikiMarkup), Confluence is no longer a Wiki (no longer a Quick mechnism for typing linked documents, as originally formulated). No Alternative vision has been put forward, just a web-editing applet.

https://jira.atlassian.com/browse/CONFCLOUD-67129

I myself (wwdada), had signed up my company to Confluence Cloud on the basis that we'd be receiving Wiki functionality. This is not as was expected from the name 'wiki' and it is important that other groups do not fall into this trap, without knowledge.

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:Please see the {{colored link|blue|Back room|Back room dismbiguation page}}. [[User:Fabrickator|Fabrickator]] ([[User talk:Fabrickator|talk]]) 03:09, 13 April 2025 (UTC)

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