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== 01:46:1307, 327 NovemberAugust 20202025 review of submission by Kevinmage1212MylesContributes ==

{{Lafc|username=Kevinmage1212MylesContributes|ts=01:46:1307, 327 NovemberAugust 20202025|declineddraft=Draft:Janet_Taylor_PerryPage Denial}}

I would like to know why my page was denied, thanks! [[User:MylesContributes|MylesContributes]] ([[User talk:MylesContributes|talk]]) 01:07, 27 August 2025 (UTC)

:Hello, @[[User:MylesContributes|MylesContributes]]. Your sandbox [[User:MylesContributes/sandbox]] was declined (which means it could be submitted again if you edit it to address the problems) becuase it does not have a single independent source.

[[User:Kevinmage1212|Kevinmage1212]] ([[User talk:Kevinmage1212|talk]]) 01:46, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

:A Wikipedia article should be a neutral summary of what several people wholly unconnected with the subject have independently chosen to publish ''about'' the subject in reliable publications, and not much else.

:{{ping|Kevinmage1212}} You didn't ask a question, but the last review said: "This is your third attempt to submit the draft, and yet, there's no evidence you're able to find independent references" and most of the references in the article are to janettaylorperry.com, so maybe take the hint that this isn't a sufficient reference and either find ''independent'' references, or bow out on the article. See [[WP:GNG]]. [[User:Cyphoidbomb|Cyphoidbomb]] ([[User talk:Cyphoidbomb|talk]]) 02:22, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

:If you do not have several sources each of which meets all the criterai in [[WP:42]], then no article on the subject is possible.

:{{User:ColinFine/PractiseFirst}} [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 13:40, 27 August 2025 (UTC)

== 02:04:3945, 327 NovemberAugust 20202025 review of draftsubmission by Excel23CHAOGEJILATU ==

{{Lafc|username=Excel23CHAOGEJILATU|ts=02:04:3945, 327 NovemberAugust 20202025|draft=Draft:Universal_Coin_&_BullionCHAOGEJILATU}}

Hello, I am new to Wikipedia and my draft article about the scientist "CHAOGEJILATU" was recently declined. The reason given was that there is not enough significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources.

As a beginner, I would greatly appreciate kind advice from experienced editors:

Need an opinion on this article and need to have it reviewed to be accepted. I think I made the final changes needed to have it accepted into Wikipedia.

[[User:Excel23|Excel23]] ([[User talk:Excel23|talk]]) 02:04, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

:{{u|Excel23}}, It is pending review. Please wait. [[User:Snowycats|Snowycats]] ([[User talk:Snowycats|talk]]) 02:42, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

- What kinds of sources would be sufficient to demonstrate notability for a scientist?

== 05:11:15, 3 November 2020 review of submission by Ananya2212 ==

- Are academic journal publications (where the subject is a co-author) acceptable as significant coverage, or do I need more independent media coverage such as newspapers, interviews, or magazines?

{{Lafc|username=Ananya2212|ts=05:11:15, 3 November 2020|page=

- If my current references are not enough, what steps should I take to improve the draft so that it has a realistic chance of being accepted?

Thank you very much for your time and support.

}}

[[User:CHAOGEJILATU|CHAOGEJILATU]] ([[User talk:CHAOGEJILATU|talk]]) 02:45, 27 August 2025 (UTC)

[[Draft:Gaya Prasad Mehrotra]]

I had recently published a draft, it got declines and the reason that was given to me was that '''you need to work first on having more than one source (whether online or offline) and then on making the article neutral'''. I want to know exactly how I can change my draft to make it acceptable according to Wikipedia guidelines. I have written about my late great grandfather, so I know the facts and I have given sources for the sites where I have gotten the post held by him. My article has a similar format to another article about a politician that was recently posted - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shivanand_Tiwari

:Hello, @[[User:CHAOGEJILATU|CHAOGEJILATU]]. As you have been advised on your user talk page, writing a Wikipedia article about yourself is so extremetly difficult that you are ''strongly'' discouraged from trying.

[[User:Ananya2212|Ananya2212]] ([[User talk:Ananya2212|talk]]) 05:11, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

:{{HD/WINI}}

:You would need to find several places where people wholly unconnected with you (or with any of your institutions) had decided to write about you, in reliable publications.

:If you can find several such sources, you would then need to effectively forget everything you know about yourself and write a neutral summary of what those sources said about you. Do you see why this is so difficult?

:{{User:ColinFine/PractiseFirst}} And that is even without the added problems of writing about yourself. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 13:47, 27 August 2025 (UTC)

::There are topics that may fail a strict application of [[WP:GNG]] but might be notable by other measures. [[WP:BAND]] offers many alternatives for music ensembles, for example.

::In this case, we have a guideline [[WP:NPROF]], which might be applicable to scientists in academia. One could also make an argument that a scientist is notable based on an influence factor, provided that influence factor is way beyond what's expected of an average scientist at that point in their career. I don't recall seeing this reasoning covered by our policies; indeed, most of the time I've seen these scores used is to argue against notability for run-of-the-mill academics.

::Winning a notable award would qualify for notability, even for a scientist who was previously obscure, although a Nobel Prize winner would probably have lots of coverage anyway as a consequence of winning the prize. ~[[User:Anachronist|Anachronist]] <small>([[User talk:Anachronist|talk]])</small> 16:35, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

== 10:03:4345, 327 NovemberAugust 20202025 review of submission by Trotwood78Kirtan kalathiya ==

{{Lafc|username=Trotwood78Kirtan kalathiya|ts=10:03:4345, 327 NovemberAugust 20202025|pagedraft=Draft:Kirtan_kalathiya}}

**Page title:**

citterio

`Draft:Kirtan_kalathiya`

}}

**Reason for requesting assistance:**

Hi, i've just translated the italian wikipedia page Citterio: https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citterio.

I recently submitted a draft about Kirtan Kalathiya, an Indian web developer and SEO specialist. The draft was rejected as not meeting notability guidelines and tagged as promotional. I have a declared conflict of interest (COI) since I am closely connected to the subject.

I think that if it was ok for Wikipedia Italia, it can be ok also for Wikipedia English

I would appreciate guidance on:

What kinds of reliable, independent sources would be considered sufficient to establish notability for this subject.

How to rewrite the draft in a more neutral, encyclopedic tone (rather than sounding like a résumé or promotional profile).

Whether trimming sections such as “Skills” and “Portfolio” would make the draft more acceptable, and if I should wait until stronger sources are available before resubmitting.

Thank you for any advice on how I can proceed constructively within Wikipedia’s policies.

[[User:Kirtan kalathiya|Kirtan kalathiya]] ([[User talk:Kirtan kalathiya|talk]]) 10:45, 27 August 2025 (UTC)

:@[[User:Kirtan kalathiya|Kirtan kalathiya]] It is pure [[Wikipedia:Spam|spam]] and will shortly be deleted. We have no interest in promoting your SEO spam biography. Go elsewhere. <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 10:53, 27 August 2025 (UTC)

[[User:Trotwood78|Trotwood78]] ([[User talk:Trotwood78|talk]]) 10:03, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

:Also keep in mind there are three outcomes to a review of a draft: accept, decline, or reject. If a reviewer accepts a draft, the reviewer publishes it for you. The "decline" outcome means the draft needs improvement before it can be accepted. The "reject" outcome means you should stop immediately, do not proceed further, this isn't an acceptable topic now or in the foreseeable future. ~[[User:Anachronist|Anachronist]] <small>([[User talk:Anachronist|talk]])</small> 16:41, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

:{{re|Trotwood78}} I am afraid your logic is mistaken. Since Every Wikipedia is a seperate project with seperate rules, the existence of an article in one Wikipedia cannot be cited as an argument for the existence or non-existence in other Wikipedias. see [[WP:OSE|other stuff exists]]. [[User:Victor Schmidt|Victor Schmidt]] ([[User talk:Victor Schmidt|talk]]) 14:42, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

== 1014:29:3212, 327 NovemberAugust 20202025 review of draftsubmission by Balan RajSATENDERA72 ==

{{Lafc|username=Balan RajSATENDERA72|ts=10:2914:3212, 327 NovemberAugust 20202025|draft=UserDraft:Balan_Raj/sandboxWaldia_(2)}}

Why you did that please let me post this article pls it's not anything wrong in it [[User:SATENDERA72|SATENDERA72]] ([[User talk:SATENDERA72|talk]]) 14:12, 27 August 2025 (UTC)

:Is English the main language that you use to communicate? If not, you may find it easier to contribute in the version of Wikipedia that is in your primary language. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 14:16, 27 August 2025 (UTC)

My draft is rejected with comment of no notable referencing. I would like to know if Wikipedia and Malaysian book of records webpage is not taken as notable referencing?

:@[[User:SATENDERA72|SATENDERA72]]: this draft has been rejected and will therefore not be considered further.

Thanks.

:Furthermore, you should not be editing in a contentious topic area at all, until your account is [[WP:extended confirmed|extended confirmed]], which you are fall very short of. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 14:17, 27 August 2025 (UTC)

[[User:Balan Raj|Balan Raj]] ([[User talk:Balan Raj|talk]]) 10:29, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

::He's [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:SATENDERA72&diff=prev&oldid=1307467972 been told this].

:{{re|Balan Raj}} yes, Wikipedia and Youtube are not regarded as a [[WP:RS|reliable source]], see [[WP:UGC]] and [[WP:CIRCULAR]] (for the former). [[User:Victor Schmidt|Victor Schmidt]] ([[User talk:Victor Schmidt|talk]]) 14:40, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

::{{ping|SATENDRA72}} '''You are not allowed to edit about castes (or any other social group or strata in South Asia), full stop.''' Desist. —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">Jéské Couriano</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^&lowbar;^v</span>]] ^{<small>[[User:Jéské Couriano/AG|threads]] [[User:Jéské Couriano/Decode|critiques]]</small>} 16:56, 27 August 2025 (UTC)

::Balan Raj, just to clarify, YouTube can be used in referencing if the YouTube Channel is verified '''and''' if the channel is linked to a major mainstream source. For instance, BBC News is a reputable news outlet, so we could use a verified BBC News YouTube channel. But generally speaking, most YouTube videos are user-created, and in many cases, they are copyright violations, which we don't want to promote. [[User:Cyphoidbomb|Cyphoidbomb]] ([[User talk:Cyphoidbomb|talk]]) 19:26, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

== 1114:28:1030, 327 NovemberAugust 20202025 review of draftsubmission by 197185.48254.24335.1882 ==

{{Lafc|username=197185.48254.24335.1882|ts=1114:28:1030, 327 NovemberAugust 20202025|draft=Draft:Ali_Mansour_(Actor)Ahmad_Kaawar}}

I want to know what I can add to be approved [[Special:Contributions/185.254.35.82|185.254.35.82]] ([[User talk:185.254.35.82|talk]]) 14:30, 27 August 2025 (UTC)

:If you are the creator of the draft, remember to log in when posting.

Can I add @[[Draft:Ali Mansour (Actor)]] in wikipedia?

:You have been left advice by reviewers, do you have a more specific question?

:You took a very professional looking picture of Mr. Kaawar; what is your connection to him? [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 14:32, 27 August 2025 (UTC)

== 14:58, 27 August 2025 review of submission by Thomas93201 ==

[[Special:Contributions/197.48.243.18|197.48.243.18]] ([[User talk:197.48.243.18|talk]]) 11:28, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

{{Lafc|username=Thomas93201|ts=14:58, 27 August 2025|draft=Draft:Service_Records_for_Alida_Saskatchewan}}

:The draft has been submitted and is pending review. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 12:43, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

I am unsure why my draft is getting rejected. It feels like it is fit for wikipedia as it states information that is 100% fact, no fiction. I have not shown bias or favouritism, it simply informs people of important information about many peoples lives. [[User:Thomas93201|Thomas93201]] ([[User talk:Thomas93201|talk]]) 14:58, 27 August 2025 (UTC)

:{{u|Thomas93201}} The draft was declined, not rejected. Rejected has a specific meaning in the draft process, that a draft may not be resubmitted. Declined means that it may be resubmitted.

:Wikipedia is [[WP:NOTDATABASE|not a mere database of information]]. For war veterans from this community as a group to merit a Wikipedia article, there must be independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] with significant coverage of the community's veterans as a distinct group, showing how it is [[WP:ORG|a notable group]], in order for it to merit an article. For the veterans individually, the same applies- each veteran must have coverage of their military career in independent reliable sources that can be summarized in an article. Government/military records are insufficient.

:If you just want to document these people, you might try social media, a website about war veterans, or other website with less stringent requirements. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 15:03, 27 August 2025 (UTC)

== 1218:26:5849, 327 NovemberAugust 20202025 review of draftsubmission by AD202020IdahoChateau ==

{{Lafc|username=AD202020IdahoChateau|ts=1218:26:5849, 327 NovemberAugust 20202025|draft=Draft:Diana_AliIpsen_Bottle}}

Please help with draft. My first edit/creation and would like to have assistance to ensure quality content and correct references. Thank you. [[User:IdahoChateau|IdahoChateau]] ([[User talk:IdahoChateau|talk]]) 18:49, 27 August 2025 (UTC)

:You don't specify what assistance you are seeking, but I can say that YouTube is generally not considered a [[WP:RS|reliable source]] as most of its content is user-generated without editorial oversight. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 20:55, 27 August 2025 (UTC)

:I'm extremely confused by the article. You're writing an article Ipsen Bottle, but most of the cites seem more fitting for an article about its creator, and don't really talk much, if it all, about the named type of bottle. If you decided to cover the bottle, you need to provide sources ''about'' the bottle that explain why and how the bottle itself is notable. But a good place to start is to just sit and decide what you want this article to be about, and then write based on only those sources that provide significant coverage about the subject. [[User:CoffeeCrumbs|CoffeeCrumbs]] ([[User talk:CoffeeCrumbs|talk]]) 05:00, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

== 21:23, 27 August 2025 review of submission by Benia Mazaheri ==

[[User:AD202020|AD202020]] ([[User talk:AD202020|talk]]) 12:26, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

{{Lafc|username=Benia Mazaheri|ts=21:23, 27 August 2025|draft=User:Benia_Mazaheri/sandbox}}

I am really sorry I do not understand what I need to do to correct this?

it has many reliable sources such as transfermarkt and used all the relaible sources so I don't know what else I can do [[User:Benia Mazaheri|Benia Mazaheri]] ([[User talk:Benia Mazaheri|talk]]) 21:23, 27 August 2025 (UTC)

:Transfermarkt is not currently considered a reliable source by the community, and in case, you haven't shown Mazaheri's ''notability'' only his ''existence''. There's no source provided that cites significant coverage ''about'' him; databases that simply list his stats do not count for that. [[User:CoffeeCrumbs|CoffeeCrumbs]] ([[User talk:CoffeeCrumbs|talk]]) 04:55, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

Diana's co-mentor on the BBC painting challenge Pascal Anson's page has been published and his links no longer work, I am perplexed at what the problem is?

:{{u|AD202020}} Please see [[WP:OSE|other stuff exists]]. Other similar articles existing does not automatically mean yours can too. Each article or draft is judged on its own merits. It could be that the other article is problematic too, or has unique circumstances that merit that person an article.

:In this case, please review the comments left by reviewers on the draft. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 12:45, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

== Request on 1321:26:3824, 327 NovemberAugust 2020 for assistance on [[Wikipedia:Articles2025 forreview creation|AfC]]of submission by Rdmackinnon76.9.53.56 ==

{{Lafc|username=76.9.53.56|ts=21:24, 27 August 2025|draft=Draft:Robert_G._Hopkins}}

{{anchor|13:26:38, 3 November 2020 review of submission by Rdmackinnon}}

Why was this declined? There are many independent reliable arms length new sources including CBC Canada's National Broadcaster as well Yukon News both detailing RGH work in open source emergency alerting published history on these sources going back over 20 years. Additionally, RGH appears on public CRTC decisions for radio licencing. RGH doesn't work for CBC or Yukon News [[Special:Contributions/76.9.53.56|76.9.53.56]] ([[User talk:76.9.53.56|talk]]) 21:24, 27 August 2025 (UTC)

{{Lafc|username=Rdmackinnon|ts=13:26:38, 3 November 2020|declinedtalk=Draft:Mark_Stradiotto}}

:The ancestry section is completely unsourced. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 21:46, 27 August 2025 (UTC)

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Good day, I believe I made the changes I need for the article, can someone review? Added refs for second section and list of notable publications. I have been using this as a guide: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Tilley#cite_ref-4

Thank you

<!-- End of message -->[[User:Rdmackinnon|Rdmackinnon]] ([[User talk:Rdmackinnon|talk]]) 13:26, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

:{{u|Rdmackinnon}}, Feel free to submit if you want a review. [[User:Snowycats|Snowycats]] ([[User talk:Snowycats|talk]]) 16:39, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

= August 28 =

== 16:25:32, 3 November 2020 review of draft by Shafiqchesspak ==

{{Lafc|username=Shafiqchesspak|ts=16:25:32, 3 November 2020|draft=Draft:Lahore_District_Chess_Association}}

== 03:12, 28 August 2025 review of submission by IanResearch ==

{{Lafc|username=IanResearch|ts=03:12, 28 August 2025|draft=Draft:ZigZagZurich}}

Hi editors, just wanted to ask what I can do to improve my draft and write it in a way that is aligned with Wikipedia's guide and tone. Thank you! [[User:IanResearch|IanResearch]] ([[User talk:IanResearch|talk]]) 03:12, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

:The draft just tells of the offerings and activities of the company; a Wikipedia article must do more, it must summarize what independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the company, showing how it meets the [[WP:ORG|special Wikipedia definition of a notable company]].

[[User:Shafiqchesspak|Shafiqchesspak]] ([[User talk:Shafiqchesspak|talk]]) 16:25, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

:The awards are meaningless towards establishing notability; for an award to contribute to notability, it must itself merit an article(like [[Nobel Peace Prize]] or [[Academy Award]]). [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 06:59, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

:{{u|Shafiqchesspak}}, You did not ask a question. [[User:Snowycats|Snowycats]] ([[User talk:Snowycats|talk]]) 16:40, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

== Request on 1605:26:1828, 328 NovemberAugust 2020 for assistance on [[Wikipedia:Articles2025 forreview creation|AfC]]of submission by Blakedes2AndeHuang ==

{{Lafc|username=AndeHuang|ts=05:28, 28 August 2025|draft=Draft:Winmate Inc.}}

{{anchor|16:26:18, 3 November 2020 review of submission by Blakedes2}}

The draft has been declined multiple times. I have already revised the wording to make the tone more neutral, but it was still labeled as containing false information. Could you please review the draft and provide guidance on how to correct the issues and bring it in line with Wikipedia’s requirements? [[User:AndeHuang|AndeHuang]] ([[User talk:AndeHuang|talk]]) 05:28, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

{{Lafc|username= Blakedes2 Blakedes2|ts=16:26:18, 3 November 2020|declinedtalk=Draft:Christmas_Mountains_caldera_complex}}

Sources

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Hello, This is the third page i have created and most of the info i got was from My own research and a single source. Im wondering if that can work. I also do need help on my other page, the Trans Pecos Volcanic Field. I have many other pages to write, and do need some tips.

Thanks in advance,

:I don't see where anyone has said it contains false information, but it does say that it appears to have been written by an AI/LLM.

Blakedes2

:Wikipedia is not a place to just tell about a company and what it does, a Wikipedia article about a company must summarize what independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the company, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of [[WP:ORG|a notable company]]. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 06:56, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

== 06:40, 28 August 2025 review of submission by 109.252.122.222 ==

<!-- End of message -->[[User:Blakedes2|Blakedes2]] ([[User talk:Blakedes2|talk]]) 16:26, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

{{Lafc|username=109.252.122.222|ts=06:40, 28 August 2025|draft=Draft:Maxim_Lazarev}}

:{{u|Blakedes2}}, You don't need to ask here and on my talk page. I will respond to you on my page. [[User:Snowycats|Snowycats]] ([[User talk:Snowycats|talk]]) 16:39, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

Good day!

Thank you for your work!

Help, as a professional, to correct this page, to work on it, so that it is acceptable for Wikipedia.

This is a famous Russian entomologist who studies the world fauna of longhorn beetles. For Wikipedia, such personalities are important, as for the world encyclopedia.

Help improve this page.

Maybe it should be shortened, and leave some small extract? Until new sources.

With respect. [[Special:Contributions/109.252.122.222|109.252.122.222]] ([[User talk:109.252.122.222|talk]]) 06:40, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

:The draft has been rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. If something changes in the future, you are welcome to edit the draft and then appeal to the rejecting reviewer. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 06:53, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

== 18:21:48, 3 November 2020 review of submission by Islamgomaa1412 ==

{{Lafc|username=Islamgomaa1412|ts=18:21:48, 3 November 2020|declined=Draft:Sally_Rawhey}}

== 08:37, 28 August 2025 review of submission by Casa Coto ==

[[User:Islamgomaa1412|Islamgomaa1412]] ([[User talk:Islamgomaa1412|talk]]) 18:21, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

{{Lafc|username=Casa Coto|ts=08:37, 28 August 2025|draft=Draft:Otto Bihler Maschinenfabrik}}

:This draft has been rejected and will not be considered further. Using Wikipedia to [[WP:NOT#PROMO|advertise or proselytise]] is not acceptable, and we [[WP:Biographies of living persons|will not accept articles with unreferenced biographical claims]] because we have been [[Wikipedia Seigenthaler biography incident|burnt on them before]]. —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">A little blue Bori</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^_^v</span>]] ^{<small>[[Special:Contributions/Jéské Couriano|Takes a strong man to deny...]]</small>} 19:22, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

Hello Wikipedians, I'm kindly asking for advice. Many months ago, I created a draft on the Bihler company ([[Draft:Otto Bihler Maschinenfabrik]]). It has since been declined multiple times, but I don't quite understand why. It is said that [[WP:NCORP]] is not met. However, in that draft, I have demonstrated, using a source assessment table, why I believe that the Bihler company has been the subject of significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources. I know that not every source that I have cited falls within the [[WP:SIRS]] criteria, but still, I feel that, the number of sources that do, is sufficient. It would be very helpful to have a second thought on this. Any advice is very much appreciated. Thank you! @ [[User:Novem Linguae]]. -- [[User:Casa Coto|Casa Coto]] ([[User talk:Casa Coto|talk]]) 08:37, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

:I haven't done a detailed analysis yet, but if other reviewers are still declining it, maybe your source assessment table is being too generous. Do all your sources have 3 meaty paragraphs of detail about the company? Are they independent (i.e. no press releases disguised as articles, no articles that are mostly quotations, no [[advertorials]], etc)? Is at least one of the sources regional, national, or international? These are all things needed to pass [[WP:NCORP]] and [[WP:GNG]]. See also [[User:Novem Linguae/Essays/Nuances of GNG]] and [[User:Novem Linguae/Essays/Novem's words of wisdom]] #6. It's been 2 months since you submitted this... if you think it passes, maybe submit it again and add a comment asking for detailed source feedback in the event of a decline. Hope this helps. Good luck. –[[User:Novem Linguae|<span style="color:blue">'''Novem Linguae'''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:Novem Linguae|talk]])</small> 13:52, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

== 19:59:06, 3 November 2020 review of draft by Serbelloni ==

:cc {{u|Casa Coto}}. –[[User:Novem Linguae|<span style="color:blue">'''Novem Linguae'''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:Novem Linguae|talk]])</small> 13:53, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

{{Lafc|username=Serbelloni|ts=19:59:06, 3 November 2020|draft=Draft:Castello_di_San_Michele_in_Teverina}}

:Comments on your assessment table:

:* You list the Hesse source as secondary, but describe it as an encyclopedia. That means it's a tertiary source.

:* You assess four sources in total to meet the criteria of reliable, independent, and significant coverage. Those would be good sources, but...

:* it isn't clear that they provide significant coverage of the company, its products, the punch-bending process, or Otto Bihler himself. Those are four different topics, and this draft is about ''one'' topic. For example, the Kolbe source discusses the technology and how the machine works, but what about the company, which is the topic of this draft?

:The assessment table is a great start, but reading it only brings up more questions. ~[[User:Anachronist|Anachronist]] <small>([[User talk:Anachronist|talk]])</small> 15:16, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

::<small>Quick note that in my experience, tertiary sources are usually accepted as counting towards GNG. –[[User:Novem Linguae|<span style="color:blue">'''Novem Linguae'''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:Novem Linguae|talk]])</small> 15:24, 28 August 2025 (UTC)</small>

:::<small>I wasn't saying that they aren't acceptable, although our policies recommend using them more to assess due weight. I was just pointing out an error in the table. ~[[User:Anachronist|Anachronist]] <small>([[User talk:Anachronist|talk]])</small> 16:24, 28 August 2025 (UTC)</small>

== 12:11, 28 August 2025 review of submission by 78.150.201.201 ==

{{Lafc|username=78.150.201.201|ts=12:11, 28 August 2025|draft=Draft:Fusion_candle}}

Because I cannot find any more references to fusion candles [[Special:Contributions/78.150.201.201|78.150.201.201]] ([[User talk:78.150.201.201|talk]]) 12:11, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

:Then this topic doesn't merit an article at this time. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 12:20, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

thank you, I would like to understand :

1. if I inserted the citations well, as they do not appear at the bottom of the page

2. if I mentioned the key persons well (with the [[ ) and what the rule is

3. how to show the historical place I am writing about on a map

== 14:57, 28 August 2025 review of submission by Aras2025 ==

[[User:Serbelloni|Serbelloni]] ([[User talk:Serbelloni|talk]]) 19:59, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

{{Lafc|username=Aras2025|ts=14:57, 28 August 2025|draft=Draft:Radio_Duhok}}

:{{ping|Serbelloni}} I've fixed some formatting issues present in the draft. See [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft%3ACastello_di_San_Michele_in_Teverina&type=revision&diff=986925139&oldid=986924022 here]. There should only be one {{tl|reflist}} template on the page, in the References section. I've removed extraneous ones, and the references now appear at the bottom of the page. Regards, [[User:Cyphoidbomb|Cyphoidbomb]] ([[User talk:Cyphoidbomb|talk]]) 20:05, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

Hello,

My draft, "Draft:Radio Duhok," has been declined multiple times due to a lack of "in-depth coverage" from reliable, independent sources, according to the last reviewer.

== 23:39:52, 3 November 2020 review of draft by DeepSeaMonster ==

{{Lafc|username=DeepSeaMonster|ts=23:39:52, 3 November 2020|draft=Draft:177_Huntington}}

I have tried my best to find good sources and have included:

Where in particular are references needed? Could you provide more concrete feedback?

1. Two official announcements from the Duhok Governorate's website congratulating the radio on its anniversary.

[[User:DeepSeaMonster|DeepSeaMonster]] ([[User talk:DeepSeaMonster|talk]]) 23:39, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

2. A feature article about the radio in the well-known regional "Gulan Magazine" (Issue 829, 2010), which refers to it as the "authentic voice of the governorate."

:{{u|DeepSeaMonster}}, It's not where, it's a matter of adding them whatsoever. See [[WP:RS]]. [[User:Snowycats|Snowycats]] ([[User talk:Snowycats|talk]]) 02:20, 4 November 2020 (UTC)

Could an experienced editor please take a look at these sources and provide some feedback? I am struggling to understand why these are considered insufficient for notability. Specifically, I would like to know if the Gulan Magazine article is just a "brief mention" and what an example of an "in-depth" source would look like for a subject like this.

:{{u|Snowycats}} - sorry, but that is not very helpful either. The draft has references, including a report by the Boston Landmarks Commission. Are there any specific statements that you believe should be backed by additional references? [[User:DeepSeaMonster|DeepSeaMonster]] ([[User talk:DeepSeaMonster|talk]]) 03:05, 4 November 2020 (UTC)

::{{u|DeepSeaMonster}}, "*Articles should be based on reliable, independent, published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy.* This means that we publish the opinions only of reliable authors, and not the opinions of Wikipedians who have read and interpreted primary source material for themselves."

::

::Once again: It's not where, it's a matter of adding them whatsoever. The issue is not [[WP:MINREF]], it is [[WP:RS]]. [[User:Snowycats|Snowycats]] ([[User talk:Snowycats|talk]]) 03:38, 4 November 2020 (UTC)

Any guidance would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. [[User:Aras2025|Aras2025]] ([[User talk:Aras2025|talk]]) 14:57, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

:{{u|Snowycats}}. Let's use common sense here: it is a building -- and a landmark at that. Are there any contentious points about the building's existence? Any particular statements on the draft that should be backed by reputable sources? Its notability? There's one reference to the city landmark commission and another to the architecture firm's page on the project. What exactly is missing from the page? If you want to add references for references' sake, be my guest, otherwise I don't see a valid argument against creating this page. [[User:DeepSeaMonster|DeepSeaMonster]] ([[User talk:DeepSeaMonster|talk]]) 04:05, 4 November 2020 (UTC)

::{{ping|DeepSeaMonster}} A building by itself is not notable. Humans create new structures of varying size every day, and we don't endeavor to create articles about every cozy duplex built in Edwalton, Nottingham. And virtually anything is a "landmark" so long as people passing through know to make a right or left once they get to it, just like any Tesco station. So mere existence is not a justification for an encyclopedia article to exist. Assuming all buildings are created equal, what separates this one from any other? Hopefully it would be that this structure has received in-depth coverage from reliable, independent, published sources with reputations for fact-checking and accuracy. If that can't be established, then it seems like this is just another building like any other in the world, and may not warrant an encyclopedia article to exist in perpetuity. [[User:Cyphoidbomb|Cyphoidbomb]] ([[User talk:Cyphoidbomb|talk]]) 04:44, 4 November 2020 (UTC)

::{{ping|Cyphoidbomb}}An Soin whichdepth onesource iswill, iton thenits -own, notabilitygo orinto references?detail both?about Sothe fartopic I'veand beendiscuss thrownwhat morethey regulationsee thanas actualimportant/significant/influential helpabout orit- feedbackwhat makes it [[WP:N|notable]]. NotMere thecongratulations and a mostmention welcomingdo ofnot placesqualify. [[User:DeepSeaMonster331dot|DeepSeaMonster331dot]] ([[User talk:DeepSeaMonster331dot|talk]]) 0515:3601, 428 NovemberAugust 20202025 (UTC)

:The English Wikipedia tends to be stricter than other language versions; I don't know if this content would be acceptable on the Arabic Wikipedia, which has its own policies. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 15:03, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

:::{{u|DeepSeaMonster}} Per [[WP:NBUILDING]] Buildings, including private residences and commercial developments, may be notable as a result of their historic, social, economic, or architectural importance, but they require significant in-depth coverage by reliable, third-party sources to establish notability. [[User:Theroadislong|Theroadislong]] ([[User talk:Theroadislong|talk]]) 10:34, 4 November 2020 (UTC)

== 16:50, 28 August 2025 review of submission by Saysky2 ==

:::{{ping|Theroadislong}} Thanks for the reply - do you have any examples of what is considered significant/sufficient coverage? [[User:DeepSeaMonster|DeepSeaMonster]] ([[User talk:DeepSeaMonster|talk]]) 16:26, 4 November 2020 (UTC)

{{Lafc|username=Saysky2|ts=16:50, 28 August 2025|draft=Draft:Ajay_Taneja}}

::::{{u|DeepSeaMonster}} These might be useful? [https://www.architecturaldigest.com/story/im-pei-boston-esi-design], [https://www.architecturalrecord.com/gdpr-policy?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.architecturalrecord.com%2Fprojects%2Flighting%2F2015%2F1505-177-huntington-avenue-nbbj.asp]. [[User:Theroadislong|Theroadislong]] ([[User talk:Theroadislong|talk]]) 16:38, 4 November 2020 (UTC)

may i know the reason why the article has been stoped

[[User:Saysky2|Saysky2]] ([[User talk:Saysky2|talk]]) 16:50, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

== 17:10, 28 August 2025 review of submission by Saysky2 ==

:::::{{ping|Theroadislong}} Great - this is helpful. Thank you! [[User:DeepSeaMonster|DeepSeaMonster]] ([[User talk:DeepSeaMonster|talk]]) 17:40, 4 November 2020 (UTC)

{{Lafc|username=Saysky2|ts=17:10, 28 August 2025|draft=Draft:Ajay Taneja}}

::::::{{ping|Theroadislong}} I have revised the draft and added a few more references. [[User:DeepSeaMonster|DeepSeaMonster]] ([[User talk:DeepSeaMonster|talk]]) 03:31, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

May i know the exact reason of rejecting the article. Even i had asked weather i can use newspapers cuts as reliable sources or not as in 2000s no digital media was there no any answered to my question. This i really disgusting no supports [[User:Saysky2|Saysky2]] ([[User talk:Saysky2|talk]]) 17:10, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

:'''This draft has been rejected [[WP:IDHT|for failing to heed previous criticism]] and will not be considered further.''' The reviewers explained a fair bit in their comments, and the draft was rejected once it became clear you were blowing them off. —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">Jéské Couriano</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^&lowbar;^v</span>]] ^{<small>[[User:Jéské Couriano/AG|threads]] [[User:Jéské Couriano/Decode|critiques]]</small>} 17:13, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

= November 4 =

::{{ping|Saysky2}} <small>re-signing to fix ping</small> —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">Jéské Couriano</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^&lowbar;^v</span>]] ^{<small>[[User:Jéské Couriano/AG|threads]] [[User:Jéské Couriano/Decode|critiques]]</small>} 17:14, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

:You have three non-independent sources, and one which might be independent, but gives a 404 when I look at it. (Even if it is both independent and gives substantial coverage, one source is not enough).

:{{HD/WINI}} [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 15:58, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

== 18:10:09:03, 428 NovemberAugust 20202025 review of submission by Namir El-Akabi CEO80.41.119.0 ==

{{Lafc|username=Namir El-Akabi CEO80.41.119.0|ts=18:10:09:03, 428 NovemberAugust 20202025|declineddraft=Draft:Mr._Namir_El_AkabiFusion_candle}}

please dont remove my draft when i send it to you even if its rubbish [[Special:Contributions/80.41.119.0|80.41.119.0]] ([[User talk:80.41.119.0|talk]]) 18:10, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

:Don't waste reviewer time with rubbish. We don't accept AI-generated articles, period. It has been deleted. If you want to submit an article on that topic, you must write it in your own words and cite actual reliable sources. ~[[User:Anachronist|Anachronist]] <small>([[User talk:Anachronist|talk]])</small> 18:19, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

may i know why the article was rejected?

and what are the solutions to publish the article?

== 18:26, 28 August 2025 review of submission by SindhuG2025 ==

{{Lafc|username=SindhuG2025|ts=18:26, 28 August 2025|draft=Draft:Aligireddy_Kasi_Vishwanath_Reddy}}

Hello team,

I have submitted an article on an Indian agriculturist AligiReddy Vishwanath Reddy but the article has been declined. Could you please assist me in improving the article. [[User:SindhuG2025|SindhuG2025]] ([[User talk:SindhuG2025|talk]]) 18:26, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

:[[User:SindhuG2025|SindhuG2025]] it seems like no one has declined the article. When you created the page you included a 'decline' banner in the page. I've fixed it for you.

[[User:Namir El-Akabi CEO|Namir El-Akabi CEO]] ([[User talk:Namir El-Akabi CEO|talk]]) 10:09, 4 November 2020 (UTC)

:In its current state, the article would not be accepted. In addition to a lack of inline citations to support the claims made in the article, the article seems like it was written for the express purpose of promoting the subject rather than to be encyclopedic.

:{{u|Namir El-Akabi CEO}} You were told why at the top of the draft. Wikipedia is not a place for people to write about themselves or to post your resume. If you want to tell the world about yourself, you should use social media. Wikipedia is only interested in what independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] have chosen on their own to say about you, showing how you meet the special Wikipedia definition of [[WP:BIO|a notable person]]. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 16:34, 4 November 2020 (UTC)

:Also, it's best to avoid external links in the body of an article, unless necessary. See the page [[WP:External links]]. [[User:Sungodtemple|Sungodtemple]] ([[User talk:Sungodtemple|talk]] &#8226; [[Special:Contributions/Sungodtemple|contribs]]) 04:24, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

:Those blank decline templates are made up by ChatGPT and the like. [[User:Sarsenet|Sarsenet]]•<small>he/they</small>•([[User talk:Sarsenet|talk]]) 04:33, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

== 1419:09:3201, 428 NovemberAugust 20202025 review of submission by SeekbalanceRavenFireblade ==

{{Lafc|username=SeekbalanceRavenFireblade|ts=1419:09:3201, 428 NovemberAugust 20202025|declineddraft=Draft:Olympia_DevineJack_Logan}}

We have edited the article along with new, reliable, independent sources. Please help us improve it. Thank you! [[User:RavenFireblade|RavenFireblade]] ([[User talk:RavenFireblade|talk]]) 19:01, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

Hi,

I am new here and am hoping for some advice to make this article consistent with the "purpose of Wikipedia." I wrote the article as Olympia Devine is a notable author, and I think she should be represented on Wikipedia. I have read the Guide to writing your first article, Policies and guidelines and others. Please let me know how I can amend this article to read more encyclopedic and less promotional. Thank you.

[[User:Seekbalance|Seekbalance]] ([[User talk:Seekbalance|talk]]) 14:09, 4 November 2020 (UTC)

:{{re|Seekbalance}} Maybe try these steps for your next attempt:

*First, review our [[WP:N|guideline on notability]], [[WP:V|our policy on Verifiability]], and [[WP:GNG|our general notability guideline (GNG)]]. Consider whether your <span title="The subject is the person, business, organization or thing that the article will be about."><u>subject</u></span> '''clearly''' meets the standards listed there. Also, check if the topic is already covered, perhaps under a different spelling or in a section of an article about a wider topic. You will waste a lot of time, if you create a new article, and then find that the encyclopedia already has an article about that.

*Second, read how to create [[WP:YFA|Your First Article]] and [[WP:REFB|referencing for beginners]] and again consider if you want to go ahead.

*Third, '''{{#if:|disclose your connection with the subject in accordance with the [[Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure|Paid-contribution disclosure]]. |If you have any connection or affiliation with the subject, disclose it in accordance with [[WP:COI|our guideline on Conflict of interest]]. If you have been or expect to be paid for making edits, or are making them as part of your job, disclose this according to the strict rules of the [[Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure|Paid-contribution disclosure]].}} This is absolutely required; omitting it can result in you being blocked from further editing. '''

*Fourth, gather sources. You want [[WP:IS|independent]], professionally published, [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] with '''each''' discussing the subject in [[WP:SIGCOV|some detail]]. If you can't find several such sources, '''stop'''; an article will not be created! Sources do NOT need to be online, or in English, although it is helpful if at least some are. The "independent" part is vital. Wikipedia does not consider as independent sources such as press releases, or news stories based on press releases, or anything published by the subject itself or an affiliate of the subject. Strictly local coverage is also not preferred. Regional or national newspapers or magazines, books published by mainstream publishers (not self-published), or scholarly journals are usually good. So are online equivalents of these. (Additional sources may verify particular statements but not discuss the subject in detail. But those significant detailed sources are needed first.)

*Fifth, use the [[WP:WIZ|article wizard]] to create a draft under the [[WP:AFC|articles for creation]] project. This is always a good idea for an inexperienced editor, but in the case of an editor with a [[WP:COI|conflict of interest]] it is essential.

*Sixth, use the sources gathered before (and other sources you may find along the way) to write the article. [[WP:CITE|Cite]] all significant statements to sources. Do not express opinions or judgements, unless they are explicitly attributed to named people or entities, preferably in a direct quotation, and cited to a source. Do not use [[WP:PUFF|puffery]] or marketing-speak. Provide page numbers, dates, authors and titles for sources to the extent these are available. A title is always needed. Submit the draft when you think it is ready for review. Be prepared to wait a while for a review (several weeks or more).

*Seventh, when (well perhaps if) your draft is declined, pay attention to the comments of the reviewer, and correct the draft and resubmit it. During this whole process, if you face any unresolvable editing hurdles, or cannot comprehend any editing issue, feel free to post a request {{

When pagename is

|Wikipedia:Teahouse= here or at the [[WP:help desk|help desk]]

|Wikipedia:Help desk=here or at the [[WP:TH|Teahouse]]

|other=at the [[WP:TH|Teahouse]] or the [[WP:help desk|help desk]]

|page=

}} and ask the regulars. Repeat this until the draft passes review.

Congratulations, you have now created a valid Wikipedia article[[:Template:Steps to Article|.]]<!--[[:Template:Steps to Article] -->

:Note: I am not an admin and cannot say how "worse" it was therefore. You may want to have a look at [[WP:PEACOCK]]. [[User:Victor Schmidt|Victor Schmidt]] ([[User talk:Victor Schmidt|talk]]) 16:11, 4 November 2020 (UTC)

:Hi @[[User:RavenFireblade|RavenFireblade]]. Who is "we" and "us"? <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 20:01, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

== 16:13:18, 4 November 2020 review of submission by Broxigar2020 ==

::{{reply to|RavenFireblade|Qcne|Kalaboomsky|Athaenara|SoWhy|Bearcat|MWFwiki}} back in August 2018 at [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/CJ Santos]], {{User5|User=Kalaboomsky}} wrote "Just tell '''us''' what needs to be removed or questionable areas on the article that needs removing" [[Special:Diff/855337532|here]]. It would appear to me that [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Jack Logan Show]] back in 2018 may possibly also be relevant here. All that said, [[:Jack Logan (filmmaker)]] is now a mainspace article: any windmills I chose to joust here in 2025 may [[:2018|seven years too late]], I guess. [[User:Shirt58|Shirt58]] ([[User talk:Shirt58|talk]]) 🦘 11:03, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

{{Lafc|username=Broxigar2020|ts=16:13:18, 4 November 2020|declined=Draft:Paul_Doherty_(politician)}}

:::I was the approver. For what it is worth, this was a borderline pass. I felt the subject ''just'' meets notability, especially when considering [[WP:NOTLEVEL]] (I realize this is not a policy). However, even keeping the COI in-mind (and I have a feeling the disclosed COI may be a "sacrificial lamb" disclosure, and the actual COI may be deeper... But, AGF and all that) I feel that the article was ready for mainspace. Particularly with the additional COI labelling. Anyways, I am of the opinion that we have enough notability to push us over the edge, and that any further discussion regarding the article should take place via AfD. I would abstain from such a discussion. '''[[User:MWFwiki|MWFwiki]]''' ([[User talk:MWFwiki|talk]]) 20:42, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

= August 29 =

Hi,

== 01:29, 29 August 2025 review of submission by Hyperbolick ==

I was wondering if you could review the decision to deny approval for the page 'Paul Doherty (politician)'?

{{Lafc|username=Hyperbolick|ts=01:29, 29 August 2025|draft=Draft:Jimmy "Ninja" Chaikong}}

I am confessedly not entirely objective on this because Jimmy was a longtime acquaintance.

He drowned in a boating accident this weekend. Had one of those quirky lives where he did many different things, MMA fighting, recording music, winning [[American Gladiator]], publishing philosophy, managing the Texas Songwriting Championship. He was a guest menace in a few episodes of [[Burn Notice]] (no media source for that, but he posted it on his socials and if you watch the episodes you can see him plain as day). His death was reported more than anything else in his life, but it was quite a life. [[User:Hyperbolick|Hyperbolick]] ([[User talk:Hyperbolick|talk]]) 01:29, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

The criteria for [[WP:BASIC]] states:

:Do you have a specific question about the draft? [[user:Notcharizard|<span style="color:#70A67A">-- NotC</span><span style="color:#396340">hariza</span><span style="color:#0D2311">rd</span>]] ^{[[User talk:Notcharizard|<span style="color:#0D2311">🗨</span>]]} 06:38, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

''People are presumed notable if they have received significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject.''

:: Yes, does Jimmy's eclectic set of points of notability add up to actual notability? Could probably find a few more sources touching on a few more points (he was a high school gymnastics champ and an FAU cheerleader before going to Oklahoma), but this is close to being what there is. [[User:Hyperbolick|Hyperbolick]] ([[User talk:Hyperbolick|talk]]) 06:47, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

:Hello, @[[User:Hyperbolick|Hyperbolick]]. [[WP:Notability|Notability]], as Wikipedia uses the word, is not about what the subject is, or does, or has done, but about whether enought independent material has been reliably published ''about'' the subject to base an article on. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 10:11, 30 August 2025 (UTC)

== How to add extra references which helps draft will go for mainspace. ==

''If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability; trivial coverage of a subject by secondary sources may not be sufficient to establish notability.''

hello ! Help on article [[Draft:Tanka Timilsina]] ! Please improve and take this article to mainspace.i will be very thankful for your kindness. [[User:MountainWriter42|MountainWriter42]] ([[User talk:MountainWriter42|talk]]) 10:48, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

There is now at least eight sources on the page that fall into the requirements on the first line. Furthermore the depth of coverage requirement appears met since the sources provide both quotes from the subject and in some cases an image of him to accompany it.

:Hello, @[[User:MountainWriter42|MountainWriter42]]. Wikipedia is a volunteer project, where people work on what they choose. It is unlikely - not impossible, but unlikely - that anybody will decide to work on your draft just because you ask.

This appears to also satisfy the criteria for [[WP:NPOL]]:

:It is possible (no more than that) that if you asked at [[WP:WikiProject Music|WikiProject Music]] or [[WP:WikiProject Nepal|WikiProject Nepal]] you might find somebody interested enough to work on it. But don't set your hopes too high. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 16:05, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

:YouTube, press releases and interviews are not reliable independent sources. [[User:Theroadislong|Theroadislong]] ([[User talk:Theroadislong|talk]]) 17:56, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

''Major local political figures who have received significant press coverage.''

== 11:32, 29 August 2025 review of submission by Newacctowork ==

Could you review or elaborate upon this for me please?

{{Lafc|username=Newacctowork|ts=11:32, 29 August 2025|draft=Draft:Trinity_Private_School}}

I am requesting assistance with my draft article Draft:Trinity_Private_School. Each word of the text was written manually without the use of AI tools. However, three times I received feedback that the draft was written by AI. I respectfully emphasize that I wrote the article myself, and therefore I ask you to indicate exactly which sentences or parts appear to you as AI-generated.

In addition, I was told that my sources are “not relevant.” Could you please clarify how relevance is determined? For example, [[The Heritage Private School]] article was accepted with only one source, while my draft contains 17 independent sources, yet it has not passed review.

Finally, the article cannot be considered promotional, because it contains no evaluative or laudatory language. I removed all subjective judgments and left only verifiable, encyclopedic content supported by citations.

I would greatly appreciate clear feedback on what exactly prevents the draft from being accepted and what specific improvements are required. [[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]] ([[User talk:Newacctowork|talk]]) 11:32, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

:@[[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]]: you will note that the most recent decline, by me, was not for AI but for promotionality and lack of any evidence of [[WP:notability|notability]].

Kind Regards,

:You then resubmitted the draft without any attempt at addressing those reasons. Why did you do that? Are you disputing my review, or did you think if you keep submitting it will eventually go through by brute force? You only have finite number of chances, so I would suggest you make the most of them.

:And yes, [[The Heritage Private School]] is even weaker in terms of sourcing (in that, it has none), and I have tagged it accordingly. That doesn't mean we should create more insufficiently sourced articles, though. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 12:04, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

Broxigar2020

::@[[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] No, I submitted it by accident. Could you please clarify what exactly needs to be fixed? I have already removed most of the adjectives that could make the text appear promotional. What further steps should I take? How can I rewrite it so that it reads as neutral, rather than advertising? [[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]] ([[User talk:Newacctowork|talk]]) 12:26, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

:::@[[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]]: you're normally meant to summarise what the sources say. But on this occasion, those sources are just churnalism etc., therefore summarising them will only ever result in a promotional draft. So you should go back to square one and look for sources that are entirely independent of the subject (meaning no interviews, press releases, advertorials, sponsored content, etc.) and base your draft on them. Personally, I doubt you will find such sources, but nothing to stop you trying. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 12:40, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

[[User:Broxigar2020|Broxigar2020]] ([[User talk:Broxigar2020|talk]]) 16:13, 4 November 2020 (UTC)

::::@[[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] There is a category, [[:Category:International schools in Cyprus]]. Could you provide an example? From my perspective, I do not see any pages there that match what you are describing. At the moment, all the pages appear to be in the main space. [[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]] ([[User talk:Newacctowork|talk]]) 12:51, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

:{{u|Broxigar2020}} As noted, failed political candidates do not meet [[WP:NPOLITICIAN]]. That this person is quoted in the newspaper about various issues is not "significant coverage" of the person. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 16:38, 4 November 2020 (UTC)

:::::@[[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]]: don't concern yourself with any other articles that may exist, we're talking about whether ''your'' draft can be accepted; [[WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS]] is invariably a red herring.

:Gladly.

:::::The long and short of it is that the vast majority of schools are not notable enough to justify an article. At two years old, this school is basically a startup, and the vast majority of startups are likewise not notable. Any media coverage that may exist is therefore almost by definition likely to originate in the school's marketing team, as is clearly the case with the sources cited in this draft. If the school was a major new initiative or an attempt at educational reform by the gov't of Cyprus, there might be independent mainstream media coverage of it, but here we're talking about a niche private school for a particular group of expats. As I said, you're welcome to search for better sources, but I wouldn't hold my breath. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 13:01, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

:# ''Irish News'' is a sound bite, not [[WP:SIGCOV|significant coverage]] of him. Same for the ''Belfast Live'' group mission piece, the Lenadoon shooting piece from same, the ''Belfast Telegraph'' piece, and the ''Irish Post'' piece.

::::::@[[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] "No, we are just talking about other articles. When I take another article as a reference, I see that it has far fewer sources than mine, yet it passed. Can this be considered a biased approach? What does the marketing team have to do with it, if there is no link to any commercial offer and not a single word about cost? This is exactly what concerns me: does it comply with Wikipedia rules that a school without media coverage is published, while a school with coverage is not? For Cyprus, these media are public and authoritative. For comparison, my house has also stood since 1987. There are no publications about it — can I publish an article about it without coverage, as others did? [[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]] ([[User talk:Newacctowork|talk]]) 13:16, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

:# The ''Belfast Live'' garden piece is [[WP:PRIMARY|entirely stuff he says]], and is not [[WP:SIGCOV|significant coverage]].

:::::::@[[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]]: no, you cannot {{tq|"publish an article about it without coverage"}}. Your draft's subject must meet our notability requirements, which it has not yet demonstrated.

:# I can't find any evidence that the whitepapers cited have been widely cited by scholars; in any case he doesn't appear to show up on GScholar at all.

:::::::If you've found existing articles which also fall short of the standards required, you're very welcome to improve them, or to commence deletion proceedings ([[WP:AFD]] is that-a-way) if that's not possible. But just because such articles exist, is no reason to create more such problems. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 13:26, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

:# His own political party is considered a [[WP:PRIMARY|primary source]]. Sources need to have no direct connexion to the subject.

::::::::@[[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] L’Officiel Cyprus, Cyprus Times, and Boussias News (in Greek) - are these not considered reliable sources? Could you please explain the definition and criteria of reliability in this case? These outlets are public and widely recognized in Cyprus. There is no 'churnalism' here, as you described earlier, and no interviews with the school itself. What exactly is wrong with these sources? [[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]] ([[User talk:Newacctowork|talk]]) 13:37, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

:# The ''Belfast Live'' elections piece is a name-drop, not [[WP:SIGCOV|significant coverage]]. Same for the volunteers piece.

:::::::::I will note that just because another article exists does not necessarily mean it was "approved" by anyone. There are many reasons this could be, and that cannot justify adding more inappropriate articles. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 13:56, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

:In sum: Your sources are [[WP:Reliable sources|not reliable sources]] and thus cannot help for [[WP:Notability|notability as]] [[WP:Notability (people)|Wikipedia defines]] [[WP:NPOL|it]]. —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">A little blue Bori</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^_^v</span>]] ^{<small>[[Special:Contributions/Jéské Couriano|Takes a strong man to deny...]]</small>} 16:45, 4 November 2020 (UTC)

:::::::::Are you connected to this school in some way? [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 13:57, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

::::::::::@[[User:331dot|331dot]] Absolutely not. I just saw an article on the Internet and decided to create an entry about them, since I am from Ukraine myself. [[User:Newacctowork|Newacctowork]] ([[User talk:Newacctowork|talk]]) 14:09, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

{{ping|331dot}}

The fact that he's an unsuccessful political candidate does not explicitly exclude him from the classifications of [[WP:NPOLITICIAN]]

While he may not satisfy the section:

''Politicians and judges who have held international, national, or (for countries with federal or similar systems of government) state/province–wide office, or have been members of legislative bodies at those levels.[12] This also applies to people who have been elected to such offices but have not yet assumed them.''

The following section I quoted:

''Major local political figures who have received significant press coverage.''

Appears to be relevant in this case as it's obvious that a political figure is not necessarily an elected one and the number of articles in comparison to other local political figures is certainly more 'significant'.

In addition, the classification of "significant coverage" as you have linked doesn't appear to exclude or conflict the use quotations in the sources provided.

The definition from [[WP:GNG]] states:

''"Significant coverage" addresses the topic directly and in detail, so that no original research is needed to extract the content. Significant coverage is more than a trivial mention, but it does not need to be the main topic of the source material.''

The second sentence in the quoted text appears clearly relevant here whereby while the article isn't explicitly about the subject, the coverage is more than a trivial mention.

Furthermore there are a series of issues covered within these sources which, while they may be only a few lines, touch upon key contextual issues within the area.

1A. The Irish News piece clearly notes the subject as the founder of the charity, explains his background with it and the challenges they face with COVID-19.

1B. As stated above, the use of quotation's doesn't exclude or conflict with the definition stated in [[WP:GNG]] and considering these are used throughout the article I don't see how the qualify as only a 'sound bite'.

1A. In addition, the source on his opposition to paramilitary attacks clearly addresses the subject's position on the '''topic directly and in detail''' as required in the [[WP:GNG]]. This represents a key contextual position within the politics of Northern Ireland due to historical background, especially within West Belfast. For the context on this please read [[The Troubles]].

2. Same as noted above in^.

3. The medical journals I included were primarily for source of his current profession.

4. I agree the SDLP source is a primary one.

5. The Belfast Live election coverage article is arguably one of the main sources from a political standpoint as it addresses another key '''topic directly and in detail''', the section where he states "willing to go to Westminster" is one of the most contentious issues in Northern Ireland politics as it refers to differences in constitutional viewpoints in Northern Ireland, for the context please read the 'In Ireland' section of [[Abstentionism]].

Apologies for not initially including the contextual information originally but I believe the this should explain why certain aspects are included as such.

Does the above information fit the [[WP:BASIC]] if not the [[WP:NPOL]] requirement?

Kind Regards,

Broxigar2020

--[[User:Broxigar2020|Broxigar2020]] ([[User talk:Broxigar2020|talk]]) 19:03, 4 November 2020 (UTC)

:{{re|331dot}} fix broken ping. {{re|Broxigar2020}} Pings only work if you sign your edit by typing four ~'s at the end. (In the toolabr above the edit window its the button right next to italics on the right side, like this: <span class="oo-ui-icon-signature" style="width:20px;display:inline-block;background-color:#f8f9fa;height:20px;">[[File:OOUI_JS_signature_icon_LTR.svg|20px]]</span> [[User:Victor Schmidt|Victor Schmidt]] ([[User talk:Victor Schmidt|talk]]) 18:42, 4 November 2020 (UTC)

:{{ping|Broxigar2020}} Hi there, I looked through the sources in the article and I can't find any that feel like they satisfy the significant coverage requirement. You've pointed out the Irish News piece, but unless I'm looking at the wrong article or if I'm missing pages, these are the only two details I learn about Doherty: he organised a festival and he's an SDLP representative. That's not in-depth by a long shot, and it's not independent, since it focusses largely on his own words. Interviews don't count toward notability. The sort of coverage I'd expect to see that qualifies as in-depth would include details like: birthdate; birth place; his life growing up; what university he attended; what military service he might have had; information about his political stance; criticism of his political stance; praise and criticism of his political work; etc. And no, not just one piece of data in each article, "significant coverage" means that a reporter sat down, did research, and wrote detailed content about the man himself. Hope that helps. Regards, [[User:Cyphoidbomb|Cyphoidbomb]] ([[User talk:Cyphoidbomb|talk]]) 19:06, 4 November 2020 (UTC)

{{ping|Cyphoidbomb}}

Hi Cyphoidbomb,

The sources provided outline factual information as well as key political and social viewpoints, two of which I listed above with their context.

The definition of independence is listed as at [[WP:GNG]] is:

''"Independent of the subject" excludes works produced by the article's subject or someone affiliated with it. For example, advertising, press releases, autobiographies, and the subject's website are not considered independent.

''

All of these articles are not produced by the subject or someone affiliated with him. Thus from the definition Wikipedia has provided it is independent. I can't see it stated any where why the use of quotations would prevent it from being independent especially when it's common practice in news reporting.

The sources used also are not interviews, they're all articles on topics for which the subject is consulted in order to discuss them and as noted above.

Furthermore I don't think the level of detail you've outlined there is something that even available from the perspective of Northern Ireland politics when the likes of primary sources or social media is excluded.

As an example please find four Wikipedia pages of the elected officials from Northern Ireland from the biggest political parties:

Sinn Féin - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_McGuigan (1 Primary source used)

DUP - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maurice_Bradley (No sources used)

SDLP - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Catney (1 Primary source used)

UUP - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robbie_Butler (1 source used that has trivial mention)

While I'm clearly not arguing these are exemplar pages, the depth and information of the sources I have provided in the page created far outweigh these and outlines the fact the level of information you've listed from a Northern Ireland perspective doesn't have the same level of detail.

Especially when the definition for [[WP:GNG]] explicitly states:

''Just being an elected local official, or an unelected candidate for political office, does not guarantee notability, although such people can still be notable if they meet the general notability guideline.''

Hope this again provides further context. While I'm not arguing any pages above should be taken down, I can't understand why the one I've created is denied while these permitted especially when if you take a larger example of political figures in Northern Ireland the page I wrote still outweighs most.

Kind Regards,

Broxigar2020

--[[User:Broxigar2020|Broxigar2020]] ([[User talk:Broxigar2020|talk]]) 19:37, 4 November 2020 (UTC)

== 21:52:16, 4 November 2020 review of submission by Weareme234 ==

{{Lafc|username=Weareme234|ts=21:52:16, 4 November 2020|declined=Draft:Economy_of_Bokaro}}

[[User:Weareme234|Weareme234]] ([[User talk:Weareme234|talk]]) 21:52, 4 November 2020 (UTC)

== 22:46:08, 4 November 2020 review of submission by 31.182.61.2 ==

{{Lafc|username=31.182.61.2|ts=22:46:08, 4 November 2020|declined=Draft:Spoon_Murder_2}}

Why did you reject this page? Yes, it is about an arthouse film from a small country, but why is this article unworthy of being on Wikipedia? There are a huge number of similar articles. I have provided real links to authoritative local sites and one authoritative world site (imdb)

[[Special:Contributions/31.182.61.2|31.182.61.2]] ([[User talk:31.182.61.2|talk]]) 22:46, 4 November 2020 (UTC)

:IMDB is not an authoritative site. It's user-contributed, which we do not allow as references. See [[WP:RS]] and [[WP:UGC]]. The mere existence of a film doesn't mean that it is notable. Notability is established by showing that the subject received [[WP:GNG|significant (in depth) coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject]]. [[User:Cyphoidbomb|Cyphoidbomb]] ([[User talk:Cyphoidbomb|talk]]) 01:24, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

= November 5 =

== 00:37:19, 5 November 2020 review of submission by 2603:8081:500:F700:B99B:D01D:FF3D:8494 ==

{{Lafc|username=2603:8081:500:F700:B99B:D01D:FF3D:8494|ts=00:37:19, 5 November 2020|declined=Draft:Parker_Simmons}}

[[Special:Contributions/2603:8081:500:F700:B99B:D01D:FF3D:8494|2603:8081:500:F700:B99B:D01D:FF3D:8494]] ([[User talk:2603:8081:500:F700:B99B:D01D:FF3D:8494|talk]]) 00:37, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

== 04:35:59, 5 November 2020 review of submission by 136.185.194.236 ==

{{Lafc|username=136.185.194.236|ts=04:35:59, 5 November 2020|declined=Draft:KEN_Keep_Learning}}

Please let me know what makes this article contrary to the Wikipedia policies. And suggest any edits.

[[Special:Contributions/136.185.194.236|136.185.194.236]] ([[User talk:136.185.194.236|talk]]) 04:35, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

:This [[WP:Spam|reads like an advertisement]]. [[WP:COI|What is your connexion to KEN?]] —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">A little blue Bori</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^_^v</span>]] ^{<small>[[Special:Contributions/Jéské Couriano|Takes a strong man to deny...]]</small>} 05:05, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

:It reads like a corporate brochure and you've provided no references that would suggest it is notable in any way. See [[WP:GNG]] and [[WP:CORP]]. [[User:Cyphoidbomb|Cyphoidbomb]] ([[User talk:Cyphoidbomb|talk]]) 17:13, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

== 06:53:19, 5 November 2020 review of draft by Rishibankim ==

{{Lafc|username=Rishibankim|ts=06:53:19, 5 November 2020|draft=User:Rishibankim/sandbox}}

I did not submit any article for publication in wikipedia as an independent article. My submission is a series of review of the original article titled "Mahatma Gandhi". I want my submission to be talked by wikifamily. Anyway, how do I submit my review and comments on an existing article ? RISHIBANKIM

[[User:Rishibankim|Rishibankim]] ([[User talk:Rishibankim|talk]]) 06:53, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

:{{u|Rishibankim}} To propose changes to an existing article, you should use that article's associated talk page. To increase the chances other editors will see your request, you should add a formal [[WP:ER|edit request]] tag to it(click for instructions). [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 09:41, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

== 09:32:49, 5 November 2020 review of submission by 31.182.61.2 ==

{{Lafc|username=31.182.61.2|ts=09:32:49, 5 November 2020|declined=Draft:Spoon_Murder_2}}

[[Special:Contributions/31.182.61.2|31.182.61.2]] ([[User talk:31.182.61.2|talk]]) 09:32, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

:You don't ask a question, but the draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 09:40, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

::Their question was also answered in the discussion they opened above. [[User:Cyphoidbomb|Cyphoidbomb]] ([[User talk:Cyphoidbomb|talk]]) 18:30, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

== 12:44:18, 5 November 2020 review of submission by Aassaf2020 ==

{{Lafc|username=Aassaf2020|ts=12:44:18, 5 November 2020|declined=Draft:Vera_Matta}}

[[User:Aassaf2020|Aassaf2020]] ([[User talk:Aassaf2020|talk]]) 12:44, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

:{{u|Aassaf2020}} You don't ask a question, but your draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further; I have deleted it as blatant promotion. Please read [[WP:YFA|Your First Article]] for more information, and if you are associated with the person you wrote about, please review [[WP:COI|conflict of interest]]. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 12:48, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

== Request on 14:26:21, 5 November 2020 for assistance on [[Wikipedia:Articles for creation|AfC]] submission by 24.102.77.7 ==

{{anchor|14:26:21, 5 November 2020 review of submission by 24.102.77.7}}

{{Lafc|username=24.102.77.7|ts=14:26:21, 5 November 2020|declinedtalk=Draft:Howard_Ellis_Cox_Jr.}}

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I keep getting rejected for peacock terms and non-neutral language. Having reviewed this on Wikipedia's terms page I am still unclear as to what I am doing wrong.

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:[[WP:NOT#IINFO|Ever heard of promotion-by-overdetail?]] We don't need laundry lists of everything and everyone he works with or has done, just the most relevant ones. —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">A little blue Bori</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^_^v</span>]] ^{<small>[[Special:Contributions/Jéské Couriano|Takes a strong man to deny...]]</small>} 18:14, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

== 22:07:46, 5 November 2020 review of submission by Mdainko ==

{{Lafc|username=Mdainko|ts=22:07:46, 5 November 2020|declined=Draft:Edward_A._Dainko}}

I resubmitted a revised version 2 months ago. I made an attempt to remove all of the "Press Release" language. Do we know if it's being reviewed again already? If so, any idea when I may receive an answer? Or, do I need to do something further to trigger a new evaluation?

Please let me know.

Thanks,

Matt

[[User:Mdainko|Mdainko]] ([[User talk:Mdainko|talk]]) 22:07, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

= November 6 =

== 00:30:00, 6 November 2020 review of draft by FcoonerBCA ==

{{Lafc|username=FcoonerBCA|ts=00:30:00, 6 November 2020|draft=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Add_WikiProject_tags}}

William Nickels Jr I'm hopeful to get published.

[[User:FcoonerBCA|FcoonerBCA]] ([[User talk:FcoonerBCA|talk]]) 00:30, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

:Hi {{U|FcoonerBCA}}. Thank you for your contribution. It is in the pool of drafts to be reviewed. It is unlikely to be published as-is, since it cites a single source, and that source mentions Nickels in only two sentences. The [[WP:BIO|notability guideline]] (inclusion criteria) for people is, in a nutshell, "has received significant coverage in multiple, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject". Two sentences does not constitute significant coverage. Wikipedia requires significant coverage so that we can write a whole biography rather than just a few sentences. We require multiple sources so that we can write a balanced article that complies with [[Wikipedia:Neutral point of view]], rather than representing only one author's point of view. --[[User:Worldbruce|Worldbruce]] ([[User talk:Worldbruce|talk]]) 02:38, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

== 03:24:27, 6 November 2020 review of submission by SCBC2940 ==

{{Lafc|username=SCBC2940|ts=03:24:27, 6 November 2020|page=

Draft:SecondCalvaryBaptistChurh

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I need help understanding the types of edits I need to make in order to have an article on the history of Second Calvary Baptist Church published as a Wikipedia article. The church has kept meticulous records regarding their 140+ year history. I will need guidance making the necessary edits for an article to be approved for publication. Thank you for your help.

[[User:SCBC2940|SCBC2940]] ([[User talk:SCBC2940|talk]]) 03:24, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

== 05:10:36, 6 November 2020 review of submission by Tuesdaymorning20 ==

{{Lafc|username=Tuesdaymorning20|ts=05:10:36, 6 November 2020|declined=Draft:Sophie_Santos}}

Sophie Santos is an author and has legit references as seen in the article.

[[User:Tuesdaymorning20|Tuesdaymorning20]] ([[User talk:Tuesdaymorning20|talk]]) 05:10, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

*You've already been informed as to why this draft is unsuitable for Wikipedia [[Special:Diff/984072135|in this response to your previous query]], and you have made no improvements since then. --<span style="font-family:Book Antiqua">[[User:Kinu|<strong style="color:blue">Kinu</strong>]]&nbsp;^{[[User_talk:Kinu|<i style="color: red">t</i>]]}/_{[[Special:Contributions/Kinu|<i style="color:red">c</i>]]}</span> 05:33, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

== 12:35:01, 6 November 2020 review of draft by Katikov ==

{{Lafc|username=Katikov|ts=12:35:01, 6 November 2020|draft=Draft:Global_Chess_Festival}}

I have been trying to submit the Global Chess Festival entry. I did all modification according to your guidelines but it is still not accepted. Could you please give specific help on which sentence shall be modified.

I also gave one more paragraph concerning year 2020. Looking forward to hearing from you soon.

[[User:Katikov|Katikov]] ([[User talk:Katikov|talk]]) 12:35, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

:Hi {{u|Katikov}}, the draft was last reviewed back in March, you have not resubmitted it for another review. To do so you need to click the blue "Resubmit" button. [[User:Dodger67|Roger (Dodger67)]] ([[User talk:Dodger67|talk]]) 13:42, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

== 15:14:19, 6 November 2020 review of draft by 2600:1700:7960:4F40:3D1D:5447:9411:213B ==

{{Lafc|username=2600:1700:7960:4F40:3D1D:5447:9411:213B|ts=15:14:19, 6 November 2020|draft=Draft:Kevin_David_Peterson}}

Hi, Just wondering what additional citations I may need for this article? Artist is referenced several times in Wikipedia articles as well as outside resources and is well known artist.

Thanks

[[Special:Contributions/2600:1700:7960:4F40:3D1D:5447:9411:213B|2600:1700:7960:4F40:3D1D:5447:9411:213B]] ([[User talk:2600:1700:7960:4F40:3D1D:5447:9411:213B|talk]]) 15:14, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

== 15:44:07, 6 November 2020 review of submission by Erikgwagner ==

{{Lafc|username=Erikgwagner|ts=15:44:07, 6 November 2020|page=

Draft:Onclusive

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Hello,

== 12:00, 29 August 2025 review of submission by GeorgeHav ==

I am new to Wikipedia as an editor. I have been trying to get an article published about the company that I work for. We're a fast growing startup with an interesting history and technology. I have been rejected a couple of times, and I have attempted to fix the issues, but before I try to resubmit, I was hoping someone could give the article a quick look and let me know if there are any issues that they see? I have added a significant amount of references from major publications about the company and it's history. I have marked that I do work for the organization in the submission, but I have tried to be as unbiased as possible and quote or paraphrase article content when possible. Thank you in advance!

{{Lafc|username=GeorgeHav|ts=12:00, 29 August 2025|draft=Draft:FlightSimExpo}}

Article was denied for npov, but I'm not sure i can personally see specifically where/why that's the case? Any thoughts on how I could improve that? [[User:GeorgeHav|GeorgeHav]] ([[User talk:GeorgeHav|talk]]) 12:00, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

:All the draft does is document occurrences of this event- in essence, promoting them. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 13:57, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

EW 15:44, 6 November 2020 (UTC) <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Erikgwagner|Erikgwagner]] ([[User talk:Erikgwagner#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Erikgwagner|contribs]]) </small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

::Interesting, what would you recommend then in this case? Adding a section on "Reception"? [[User:GeorgeHav|GeorgeHav]] ([[User talk:GeorgeHav|talk]]) 23:11, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

:{{u|Erikgwagner}} Your use of the term "startup" is a strong indicator that your company, as the reviewer noted, does not meet the special Wikipedia definition of [[WP:ORG|a notable company]]. Only well established companies that independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] give significant coverage to do. Your sources are almost exclusively press releases; press releases and other announcements of routine business transactions like the raising of capital or release of a product are not independent and as such do not establish notability. Wikipedia is only interested in what reliable sources completely unconnected with your company have chosen on their own to say about it. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 16:02, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

:::I would talk much less about occurrences of the event and much more about what independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] say about it. You meed to show that it is [[WP:NEVENT|a notable event]]. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 23:18, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

::::Awesome, thanks for the advice. [[User:GeorgeHav|GeorgeHav]] ([[User talk:GeorgeHav|talk]]) 23:19, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

== Request on 1713:57:4102, 629 NovemberAugust 2020 for assistance on [[Wikipedia:Articles2025 forreview creation|AfC]]of submission by VlonekleonVaibhav9786 ==

{{Lafc|username=Vaibhav9786|ts=13:02, 29 August 2025|draft=Reason for Article Rejection}}

{{anchor|17:57:41, 6 November 2020 review of submission by Vlonekleon}}

Could you please let me know why my article was rejected. Just wanted to get an understanding so I do not make the same mistakes again [[User:Vaibhav9786|Vaibhav9786]] ([[User talk:Vaibhav9786|talk]]) 13:02, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

{{Lafc|username=Vlonekleon|ts=17:57:41, 6 November 2020|declinedtalk=Draft:Itsvlone}}

:{{courtesy link|Draft:Virtual CFO Services in India}}

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:@[[User:Vaibhav9786|Vaibhav9786]]: your draft was purely promotional, and written not like an encyclopaedia article but a sales brochure.

:Presumably you work for YourCFO, which is what the spam link at the end of the draft was pointing to? In which case, you need to disclose your paid-editing-status (this has already been queried on your talk page), and I would also advise against continuing down this promotional road, lest you get blocked. -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 13:12, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

== 17:25, 29 August 2025 review of submission by FurretSuperFan ==

{{Lafc|username=FurretSuperFan|ts=17:25, 29 August 2025|draft=Draft:Greatest_Idol}}

Hi my article got denied for the reason that it does not qualify for a Wikipedia article due to not having reliable sources. I'm trying to aim for the notability that the album charted in a national music chart, specifically in the Oricon and Billboards charts. I just wanted to make sure that these links count towards reliability and notability under secondary or independent sources

https://www.oricon.co.jp/prof/552646/products/1042567/1/

<!-- End of message -->[[User:Vlonekleon|Vlonekleon]] ([[User talk:Vlonekleon|talk]]) 17:57, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

:{{ping|Vlonekleon}} You didn't ask a question, but it seems to me you erroneously think Wikipedia is a social networking site, considering the title of your draft is Draft:Itsvlone, vs. Draft:Vlone or Draft:Kleon Seda. Anyhow, Wikipedia is not a social networking site, it is an encyclopedia, and as such, we only care about people who can meet our notability criteria. See [[WP:GNG]] and [[WP:MUSICBIO]]. [[User:Cyphoidbomb|Cyphoidbomb]] ([[User talk:Cyphoidbomb|talk]]) 18:23, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

https://www.billboard-japan.com/charts/detail?a=top_albums&year=2013&month=11&day=18 [[User:FurretSuperFan|FurretSuperFan]] ([[User talk:FurretSuperFan|talk]]) 17:25, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

== 22:20:45, 6 November 2020 review of submission by Segzzymania1 ==

{{Lafc|username=Segzzymania1|ts=22:20:45, 6 November 2020|declined=Draft:Domesticbeatsuk}}

:Hello, @[[User:FurretSuperFan|FurretSuperFan]]. A sales site is almost never acceptable as a source: it is not independent.

[[User:Segzzymania1|Segzzymania1]] ([[User talk:Segzzymania1|talk]]) 22:20, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

:The Billboard might be reliable, but does not contain [[WP:significant coverage|significant coverage]], as it is just a listing, and I don't think it would count as a [[WP:secondary source|secondary source]] either. We really need independent, in-depth reviews. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 19:26, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

:{{u|Segzzymania1}}, We can't help you without a question [[User:Snowycats|Snowycats]] ([[User talk:Snowycats|talk]]) 01:03, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

::Would this link work for Oricon instead?

::https://www.oricon.co.jp/prof/552646/rank/album/ [[User:FurretSuperFan|FurretSuperFan]] ([[User talk:FurretSuperFan|talk]]) 20:01, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

::Would this link cunt for a secondary source?

::https://otakumode.com/otapedia/vocaloid/hatsune_miku/mitchie_m [[User:FurretSuperFan|FurretSuperFan]] ([[User talk:FurretSuperFan|talk]]) 20:19, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

:::Count* [[User:FurretSuperFan|FurretSuperFan]] ([[User talk:FurretSuperFan|talk]]) 20:19, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

::::It doesn't matter which link you use for Oricon - sales sites are almost never acceptable, period.

::::The Otakemode bit appears to be a wiki, with no byline. It therefore fails to be a [[WP:reliable source|reliable source]], and it is very likely not an [[WP:independent source|independent source]] either - we can't tell who submitted it, but it is likely to be the subject or their agents. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 10:16, 30 August 2025 (UTC)

== 18:02, 29 August 2025 review of submission by Jetsonesque ==

= November 7 =

{{Lafc|username=Jetsonesque|ts=18:02, 29 August 2025|draft=Draft:Sam_Bregman}}

Can anyone provide any guidance or input on the latest draft?

Regarding comments on 29 April by editor Paul W, a public media search likely supports relevance/notoriety for Sam Bregman, but that was not established with proper sources and citations.

Earlier entries for Sam Bregman were rejected for relevance, formatting, peacocking and lack of supporting citations. The latest edits attempt to remove problematic text, clean up formatting and citations, comply with tone and informational intentions of Wikipedia entries for public figures, and establish relevance.

== 09:30:33, 7 November 2020 review of draft by Daniela De Rentiis ==

{{Lafc|username=Daniela De Rentiis|ts=09:30:33, 7 November 2020|draft=Draft:Santino_Spinelli}}

It may be helpful to compare with the entry for former Las Cruces Mayor, Ken Miyagishima. Intention of latest edition is to create a similar entry for Bregman, with similar tone and proper support material.

Good Morning, may be i submited this article in the wrong way, I'm not sure. I did not copied it from ERIAC page, this article is the translation of a wiki pedia page in italian language: https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santino_Spinelli.

I tried to make a literal translation of the italian page. I'm the translator. And I gave the text to ERIAC too, because I think this is an exhaustive bio of Mr. Spinelli Santino.

Please let me know how to fix this problem. I wrote that this draft is a translation from a page in italian language.

May be I did not wrote it in the right place.

Daniela De Rentiis

[[User:Jetsonesque|Jetsonesque]] ([[User talk:Jetsonesque|talk]]) 18:02, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

:Hello, @[[User:Jetsonesque|Jetsonesque]]. It is almost ''never'' relevant to compare articles with existing article. Unless the article you are comparing with is either a [[WP:good article|good article]] or a [[WP:featured article|featured article]], its quality is unclear, and may be terrrible. See [[WP:other stuff exists|other stuff exists]]. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 19:29, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

[[User:Daniela De Rentiis|Daniela De Rentiis]] ([[User talk:Daniela De Rentiis|talk]]) 09:30, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

:{{re|Daniela De Rentiis}} Now we've got a real problem. Assuming that the italian article is realy the source:

* The italian Wikipedia is licensed under [https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/ CC-BY-SA 3.0] and [http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/fdl.html GNU FDL], both of which come with obligations. [https://eriac.org/members/santino-spinelli/ https://eriac.org/members/santino-spinelli/] does not currently has any form of copyright statement on it, and as such fails the requirements of the license.

* The draft itself has attributions, and as such is AFAIK still in compilance with the license.

:The real problem now it the other website. I am not an expert at identifying what came first. If the order of events is as described here, the website admin of eriac.org now realy has something to do, and it is probbably better for him and us if he were able to do it before monday. [[User:Victor Schmidt|Victor Schmidt]] ([[User talk:Victor Schmidt|talk]]) 10:49, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

= August 30 =

== 12:15:58, 7 November 2020 review of submission by 91.140.26.171 ==

{{Lafc|username=91.140.26.171|ts=12:15:58, 7 November 2020|declined=Draft:Itsvlone}}

== Feedback on revised draft: Gerald P. Curatola ==

[[Special:Contributions/91.140.26.171|91.140.26.171]] ([[User talk:91.140.26.171|talk]]) 12:15, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

Hello, I’m seeking feedback on [[Draft:Gerald P. Curatola]], which was previously declined for formatting and sourcing issues. I have now:

:You don't ask a question, but your draft has been rejected, meaning it will not be considered further. Please review the comments left by reviewers. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 12:18, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

:Anon: I responded to your non-question a few sections above. Short story: Wikipedia is not a social networking site. [[User:Cyphoidbomb|Cyphoidbomb]] ([[User talk:Cyphoidbomb|talk]]) 19:27, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

* Rewritten in neutral prose.

== 18:06:00, 7 November 2020 review of submission by RoachPeter ==

* Replaced weak/self-published links with strong independent sources (Forbes, Miami Herald, Vogue, New York Post, Purist, Yahoo).

{{Lafc|username=RoachPeter|ts=18:06:00, 7 November 2020|page=

* Corrected citations (ISBN for book, Vogue link, NYU Nexus PDFs confirming Acton Medal and Curatola Wing).

The Priory Grammar School for Boys, Shrewsbury

* Removed Markdown formatting that triggered the last decline.

}}

I have today (November 7th 2020) resubmitted the above article after an earlier rejection. Unfortunately I accidentally submitted it twice. Is it possible to delete the submission entitled "The Priory Grammar School for Boys" but leave in the correct submission entitled "The Priory Grammar School for Boys, Shrewsbury"? Thank you.

[[User:RoachPeter|RoachPeter]] ([[User talk:RoachPeter|talk]]) 18:06, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

:{{re|RoachPeter}} {{Done}} [[User:Victor Schmidt|Victor Schmidt]] ([[User talk:Victor Schmidt|talk]]) 19:45, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

Could someone review and let me know if the draft now appears ready for resubmission?

= November 8 =

Thanks very much.

[[User:GCNYdentist|GCNYdentist]] ([[User talk:GCNYdentist|talk]]) 05:41, 30 August 2025 (UTC)

== 04:30:55, 8 November 2020 review of submission by 2607:FCC8:6EC6:6000:D1D2:DE5B:3C63:FA4A ==

:Your autobiography is totally unsourced please don't use AI here it is notoriously bad at creating articles. [[User:Theroadislong|Theroadislong]] ([[User talk:Theroadislong|talk]]) 08:16, 30 August 2025 (UTC)

{{Lafc|username=2607:FCC8:6EC6:6000:D1D2:DE5B:3C63:FA4A|ts=04:30:55, 8 November 2020|declined=Draft:Dylan_Watson}}

== 09:17, 30 August 2025 review of submission by Rsakib188 ==

[[Special:Contributions/2607:FCC8:6EC6:6000:D1D2:DE5B:3C63:FA4A|2607:FCC8:6EC6:6000:D1D2:DE5B:3C63:FA4A]] ([[User talk:2607:FCC8:6EC6:6000:D1D2:DE5B:3C63:FA4A|talk]]) 04:30, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

{{Lafc|username=Rsakib188|ts=09:17, 30 August 2025|draft=Draft:2025_CUCSU_election}}

:nothing even remotely looking like [[WP:NPERSON]] or [[WP:NACTOR]]. Instagra is not [[WP:UGC|a relable source]]. [[User:Victor Schmidt|Victor Schmidt]] ([[User talk:Victor Schmidt|talk]]) 07:36, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

My submission was rejected and the reason that was given is "This topic is not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia.". Although there are similar articles on wikipedia. Such as [[2025 DUCSU election]] and [[2019 DUCSU election]]. Want to know how can I improve this arcticle to that it get published. [[User:Rsakib188|Rsakib188]] ([[User talk:Rsakib188|talk]]) 09:17, 30 August 2025 (UTC)

:Please see [[WP:OSE|other stuff exists]], each article or draft is judged on its own merits and not based on the presence of other articles that themselves may be inapproprate and just not yet addressed. Perhaps those two articles should be removed. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 09:22, 30 August 2025 (UTC)

== Request on 07:56:05, 8 November 2020 for assistance on [[Wikipedia:Articles for creation|AfC]] submission by AleksandrAAdamov ==

::I'm really struggling to understand why we should have any information on some students' union elections (!) in a global encyclopaedia. (I'm even doubtful about the viability of [[Draft:Chittagong University Central Students' Union]].) -- [[User:DoubleGrazing|DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 09:27, 30 August 2025 (UTC)

{{anchor|07:56:05, 8 November 2020 review of submission by AleksandrAAdamov}}

:::There are four autonomous public universities (out of 41 public universities) in Bangladesh that has student parliament (simply called student union) and those are of big deal, as these parliment shape national issues and the elected leaders of these student parliament gets to play role in national politics and even become future national leaders and ministers. These parliment also has say on appointment of Vice-chancellors and teachers of these university. [[User:Rsakib188|Rsakib188]] ([[User talk:Rsakib188|talk]]) 09:54, 30 August 2025 (UTC)

{{Lafc|username=AleksandrAAdamov|ts=07:56:05, 8 November 2020|declinedtalk=Draft:Russian_idea}}

::::Then provide some reliable independent sources that talk about the union in depth, @[[User:Rsakib188|Rsakib188]]. Without several sources that each meet all the criteria of [[WP:42]], a draft (or an article) is like a house without foundations, and not acceptable to Wikipedia. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 10:23, 30 August 2025 (UTC)

::::Are you saying that by law these student bodies have formal input into the operation of the public universities they are associated with? I ask because that's unusual- in the US, at least- where most student bodies are advisory or only have privileges at the pleasure of the university, not in law. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 12:33, 30 August 2025 (UTC)

:::::Yes, by law student leaders have 5 seat in university senate. And these four universities were established and govern by the act of Bangladeshi parliament as autonomous body. [[User:Rsakib188|Rsakib188]] ([[User talk:Rsakib188|talk]]) 17:27, 31 August 2025 (UTC)

== 13:24, 30 August 2025 review of submission by Devolver789 ==

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{{Lafc|username=Devolver789|ts=13:24, 30 August 2025|draft=Draft:Steal_a_Brainrot}}

The article was declined because of "using PEACKOCK terms", which I never used anywhere in the article. This article not being accepted may very well be an expression of Russophobia that is extremely common these days, and not rational thinking. Please take a look.

You wouldn't know Steal a Brainrot would be suitable for Wikipedia if you looked for proper, notable and reliable citations yourself [[User:Devolver789|Devolver789]] ([[User talk:Devolver789|talk]]) 13:24, 30 August 2025 (UTC)

<!--:Sorry, Endwas ofthat messagea question? --> [[User:AleksandrAAdamovDoubleGrazing|AleksandrAAdamovDoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:AleksandrAAdamovDoubleGrazing|talk]]) 0713:5625, 830 NovemberAugust 20202025 (UTC)

:{{ping|Devolver789}} There is a very distinct possibility that ''Steal a Brainrot'' is a notable subject. The problem is that [[WP:UNDUE|pretty much all of your sources]] [[WP:RSCONTEXT|waste time on the feud between]] its and ''[[Grow a Garden]]'''s lead developers. Only GameRant discusses ''Steal a Brainrot'' in the context of a review. I have no trouble finding sources that are actually ''about'' the game and not the tangential beef. —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">Jéské Couriano</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^&lowbar;^v</span>]] ^{<small>[[User:Jéské Couriano/AG|threads]] [[User:Jéské Couriano/Decode|critiques]]</small>} 14:35, 30 August 2025 (UTC)

::I would like to note I attempted to help out with the draft, locating reviews from Polygon, Kotaku, and GameRant. Problem is, two of the sources fall under purview of [[WP:VALNET]], and [https://www.nme.com/news/gaming-news/steal-a-brainrot-is-robloxs-latest-viral-hit-grow-a-garden-3888650 an additional NME source] I've discovered doesn't qualify as [[WP:SIGCOV]]. As such, I had to regrettably abandon my efforts pending the publication of more reliable reviews. — [[User:VolatileAnomaly|<b style="background-color:black;border:3px solid gray;padding:3px;color:lime;">🪫Volatile</b>]] ^{[[User talk:VolatileAnomaly|''' 📲T''']] | [[Special:Contributions/VolatileAnomaly|'''⌨️C''']]} 04:32, 31 August 2025 (UTC)

:::One option would've been to post at [[WP:VG]] to seek the input of editors more familiar with reliable videogame sourcing, but then I discovered the Kotaku source was listed under the opinions section, which was the nail in the coffin for me. If any other editors feel [[Special:Diff/1308406121|this version]] is salvageable feel free to do so. — [[User:VolatileAnomaly|<b style="background-color:black;border:3px solid gray;padding:3px;color:lime;">🪫Volatile</b>]] ^{[[User talk:VolatileAnomaly|''' 📲T''']] | [[Special:Contributions/VolatileAnomaly|'''⌨️C''']]} 04:52, 31 August 2025 (UTC)

== 18:01, 30 August 2025 review of submission by VasyaPetrovna ==

:Hi {{u|AleksandrAAdamov}} I have accepted the article and made a few minor changes. Please try to add some works in English to the Bibliography, I found several good ones with a Google Scholar search. Some of the templates you have used directly from the Russian Wikipedia, they need to be changed to the English equivalents. [[User:Dodger67|Roger (Dodger67)]] ([[User talk:Dodger67|talk]]) 14:32, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

{{Lafc|username=VasyaPetrovna|ts=18:01, 30 August 2025|draft=Draft:Sak-Bahlán}}

Hi - this is the first time I've created a new page. The documentation is a little overwhelming? 😅 I tried submitting the draft for review but the "Draft article not currently submitted for review" box came up, and I don't know what to do next. [[User:VasyaPetrovna|VasyaPetrovna]] ([[User talk:VasyaPetrovna|talk]]) 18:01, 30 August 2025 (UTC)

:{{u|VasyaPetrovna}} I fixed your header so it links to your draft as intended; you need the "Draft:" portion of the title.

:You just need to click the blue "Submit your draft for review!" button in the bottom right corner of the notice that you speak of. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 18:27, 30 August 2025 (UTC)

::When I click it, it brings up another window, "Template - Generated from: AfC submission." I don't know what if anything I should be changing in that window? [[User:VasyaPetrovna|VasyaPetrovna]] ([[User talk:VasyaPetrovna|talk]]) 19:06, 30 August 2025 (UTC)

:::Never mind, I got it - thank you! [[User:VasyaPetrovna|VasyaPetrovna]] ([[User talk:VasyaPetrovna|talk]]) 19:45, 30 August 2025 (UTC)

== 0918:07:4327, 830 NovemberAugust 20202025 review of submission by Untr0Tanja0615 ==

{{Lafc|username=Untr0Tanja0615|ts=0918:07:4327, 830 NovemberAugust 20202025|accepteddraft=Hyogo_Prefectural_Kobe_High_SchoolDraft:Mehmed_Begić}}

Hi, thanks for your review. The draft was not written with ChatGPT. One citation I formatted accidentally contained a tracking parameter (utm_source=chatgpt.com) in the URL, which I have now removed. I spent considerable time collecting and checking references from reliable published sources. Could you please point me to any specific passages where you think the language may not be neutral or where style should be adjusted? I’ll gladly revise those. [[User:Tanja0615|Tanja0615]] ([[User talk:Tanja0615|talk]]) 18:27, 30 August 2025 (UTC)

:@[[User:Tanja0615|Tanja0615]] I declined without prejudice, you have now re-submitted which was the correct thing to do. <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 11:57, 31 August 2025 (UTC)

== 21:31, 30 August 2025 review of submission by Matthewbyver ==

[[User:Untr0|Untr0]] ([[User talk:Untr0|talk]]) 09:07, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

{{Lafc|username=Matthewbyver|ts=21:31, 30 August 2025|draft=Draft:Matthew_Byver}}

My page is not for promotion, is to help a small music artist to build his career by offering additional informations [[User:Matthewbyver|Matthewbyver]] ([[User talk:Matthewbyver|talk]]) 21:31, 30 August 2025 (UTC)

:What you describe is the [[WP:YESPROMO|exact definition of promotion]]. Wikipedia is the last place to write about something, not the first. A subject must have already arrived and be noticed in order to draw the necessary coverage in independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] that can be summarized in an article. It needs to show that you are a [[WP:BAND|a notable musician]] already, you cannot use Wikipedia to generate notability. Wikipedia is not a place for people to tell about themselves, please read the [[WP:AUTO|autobiography policy]] and also how [[WP:PROUD|an article is not necessarily desirable]]. I wish you luck with your career, I suggest thar you focus on that and allow an article to develop the usual way, when an independent editor takes note of coverage of you and chooses to write about you. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 00:24, 31 August 2025 (UTC)

== 13:16:24, 8 November 2020 review of draft by Robert Kerber ==

:In other words, you're trying to use Wikipedia as a publicity platform, and [[WP:NOTPUBLICITY|that is not allowed]] under any circumstances. To merit a Wikipedia article, you can't be up-and-coming. You must have already arrived. ~[[User:Anachronist|Anachronist]] <small>([[User talk:Anachronist|talk]])</small> 02:07, 31 August 2025 (UTC)

{{Lafc|username=Robert Kerber|ts=13:16:24, 8 November 2020|draft=Draft:Hunting_Rifle_(film)}}

== 21:40, 30 August 2025 review of submission by 69.255.14.163 ==

{{Lafc|username=69.255.14.163|ts=21:40, 30 August 2025|draft=User:Wiseman2025/sandbox}}

has my artilce been rejected ? [[Special:Contributions/69.255.14.163|69.255.14.163]] ([[User talk:69.255.14.163|talk]]) 21:40, 30 August 2025 (UTC)

:Be sure to log in before you write anything here.

This article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Hunting_Rifle_(film) has been declined submission by user Gpkp for "lacking reliable sources". My question to be more precise which information/section should be verified was not answered. I've given my sources (IMDB and JMDB plus 2 film books) for release date etc. in the sections Bibliography and External links. Precise information which section(s) should be explicitly referenced would be appreciated. PS. I've been doing this for 10 years now so I'm not a beginner. Thank you. [[User:Robert Kerber|Robert Kerber]] ([[User talk:Robert Kerber|talk]]) 13:16, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

:That draft has been ''declined'', not rejected. If it's declined, it means you can improve it and submit it again once you have addressed the reviewer concerns. If it's rejected, then you give up and move on to something else. ~[[User:Anachronist|Anachronist]] <small>([[User talk:Anachronist|talk]])</small> 01:12, 31 August 2025 (UTC)

= August 31 =

[[User:Robert Kerber|Robert Kerber]] ([[User talk:Robert Kerber|talk]]) 13:16, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

:IMDB is not considered to be a reliable source as it is user-editable. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 13:20, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

== 1309:24:3318, 831 NovemberAugust 20202025 review of submission by Vit-ali-yanTxcraig75 ==

{{Lafc|username=Vit-ali-yanTxcraig75|ts=1309:24:3318, 831 NovemberAugust 20202025|declineddraft=Draft:UploadcareDirty_Thirty_(Texas_politics)}}

I'm a bit gobsmacked that this has been rejected for lack of "reliable sources." Three New York Times articles, an article from the state historical association, a retrospective by the local ABC news affiliate, an article published in an Abilene newspaper, and a published memoir by one of the group's members are not "reliable?" [[User:Txcraig75|Txcraig75]] ([[User talk:Txcraig75|talk]]) 09:18, 31 August 2025 (UTC)

:I don't think it's the sources themselves that are the issue, but I see some unsourced sentences. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 09:20, 31 August 2025 (UTC)

Victor Yanin 13:24, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

== 19:53, 31 August 2025 review of submission by Thilio ==

{{Lafc|username=Thilio|ts=19:53, 31 August 2025|draft=Draft:AY_Poyoo}}

This [[Draft:AY_Poyoo]] got declined by [[User:TheBirdsShedTears|TheBirdsShedTears]], Reasons {{tq|"This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of music-related topics)."}} Okay wait a minute, let me list the independent sources (BBC Newss, Vanguard News, Savanna News, The Guardian Nigeria, Modern Ghana, Pluse Ghana, News Hunter, Daily Guide Network including the Secondary sources et cetera. {{tq|"they do not show significant coverage"}} really?? can other editor please search this subject "AY Poyoo" on Microsoft Bling, Google search or any other search engine, because I did that and I found +50 pages and on and on, I also add new references. I'm just curious, PLEASE can experience Editor go and take a look at it. @[[User:TheBirdsShedTears|TheBirdsShedTears]] thank you though, you can also check and leave afc comment if there is issues that need to be corrected. Thanks [[User:Thilio|Thilio]]^{[[User talk:Thilio|<span class="robot-signature"><span class="robot-text" style="color:green;">R O B O T</span></span><span class="robot-emoji">🤖</span> <span style="color:#00008B;">talk</span>]]} 19:53, 31 August 2025 (UTC)

:Hello, @[[User:Thilio|Thilio]]. You're misunderstanding [[WP:IS|independent]]. If an article is based on an interview or a press release, then it is not independent, irresepctive of who publishes it. Some of your sources certainly have that problem: some may be independent, I haven't looked.

I tend to disagree that the list of books and journals does not meet the notability requirements, see the list below:

:You need several sources which each meet all the criteria in [[WP:42]]. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 09:43, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

* TechCrunch editorial,

::@[[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] Thanks, got it [[User:Thilio|Thilio]]^{[[User talk:Thilio|<span class="robot-signature"><span class="robot-text" style="color:green;">R O B O T</span></span><span class="robot-emoji">🤖</span> <span style="color:#00008B;">talk</span>]]} 09:46, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

* BetaKit editorial,

* Inc Russia (chapter of the international independent business media),

* VC.ru (we may call it Techcrunch of Russia, it's editor's article describes the venture-backed startup stories),

* If24.ru (it's Investment Foresight media in Russian, independent media with editor's interview describes the venture-backed startup story as well, the media has got around half million visits a month) - added,

* Crunchbase company's data (seems to be verifiable and legit) - added.

I hope the overall list with addition of computer science books meets notabilty requirements:

* Handbook of Multimedia Information Security: Techniques and Applications,

* Jump Start Web Performance. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Vit-ali-yan|Vit-ali-yan]] ([[User talk:Vit-ali-yan#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Vit-ali-yan|contribs]]) 13:24, 8 November 2020 (UTC)</small>

== 1521:15:1803, 831 NovemberAugust 20202025 review of submission by SerbelloniProfZacchaeus ==

{{Lafc|username=SerbelloniProfZacchaeus|ts=1521:15:1803, 831 NovemberAugust 20202025|accepteddraft=Castello_di_San_Michele_in_TeverinaGUIDELINES FOR SUBMITTING ARTICLES }}

Hello,

I will like to be educated on the vital websites that one can use to cite in line in an article i am writing. infact i need credible sites i can be using. Becuase i have beautiful aricles but i dont have citations for them and when i tried submitting a draft to be considered. It was declined and one of the reasons was that i didnt use credible citations.

and that i was using model language like chatgpt to write my articles.

So in summary, i need guidelines that can help me avoid declines when i post or publish my article through my sandbox.

Dear Helpdesk,

can you explain to me :

1. whether I made a correct link to the article Civitella d'Agliano in Wikipedia Italian?

2. how to add a Google map under the Location chapter?

3. how to edit my style in order to improve the article?

I am a newbie but a passionate one at that. Thank you [[User:ProfZacchaeus|ProfZacchaeus]] ([[User talk:ProfZacchaeus|talk]]) 21:03, 31 August 2025 (UTC)

many thanks to you

:Don't write articles [[WP:BACKWARD]], which is what you are doing. You should find sources ''first'', before you write a single word. Your sources should meet the three criteria in [[WP:Golden Rule]]. And write in your own words. Don't use an AI. ChatGPT is horrible at writing articles, and tends to hallucinate things and write in a non-neutral way, even though it may insist it's neutral.

:That's how you avoid your drafts being declined. ~[[User:Anachronist|Anachronist]] <small>([[User talk:Anachronist|talk]])</small> 21:15, 31 August 2025 (UTC)

= September 1 =

[[User:Serbelloni|Serbelloni]] ([[User talk:Serbelloni|talk]]) 15:15, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

== 1605:29:1822, 81 NovemberSeptember 20202025 review of draftsubmission by WikiWoggle濵島 ==

{{Lafc|username=WikiWoggle濵島|ts=1605:29:1822, 81 NovemberSeptember 20202025|draft=Draft:Anthem_Hayek_BlanchardYOHO_BREWING}}

Hello, I'm the author of this draft. My article submission was declined, but I'm having trouble understanding some of the reasons. Could you please provide some more specific feedback on how to improve the draft and get it approved? Is it okay to cite sources from Japanese sites?Thank you for your help. [[User:濵島|濵島]] ([[User talk:濵島|talk]]) 05:22, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

:{{ping|濵島}} We accept non-English citations. (We also accept cites to print media and cites to non-English print media.) I would note, however, that most reviewers are going to be using automated translation for non-English sources, and automated translation tends to fare poorly on context-heavy East Asian languages. —[[User:Jéské Couriano|<i style="color: #1E90FF;">Jéské Couriano</i>]] [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|<span style="color: #228B22">v^&lowbar;^v</span>]] ^{<small>[[User:Jéské Couriano/AG|threads]] [[User:Jéské Couriano/Decode|critiques]]</small>} 06:51, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

== 11:14, 1 September 2025 review of submission by Amir Gull1 ==

Hi, I'm not sure why my submission got flagged as an ad. I've stated plain facts from articles published by verified independent publications. Some were event-based while others were interviews. Please let me know where I'm going wrong with it, because there's hardly any content in the article either.

{{Lafc|username=Amir Gull1|ts=11:14, 1 September 2025|draft=Draft:Amir_Gull_Timuri}}

Hello, I have created a draft article titled "Amir Gull Timuri".

I need assistance to understand what changes or improvements are required so that my draft can be accepted as a Wikipedia article.

Please review it and let me know if there are issues with notability, references, or formatting.

Thank you for your help! [[User:Amir Gull1|Amir Gull1]] ([[User talk:Amir Gull1|talk]]) 11:14, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

:It has been rejected, there is zero evidence of any [[WP:GNG|notability]]. [[User:Theroadislong|Theroadislong]] ([[User talk:Theroadislong|talk]]) 11:17, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

:Writing about yourself on Wikipedia is very strongly discouraged, because almost nobody has ever managed to do it successfully: see [[WP:autobiography|autobiography]]

:{{User:ColinFine/PractiseFirst}} [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 12:48, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

== 13:48, 1 September 2025 review of submission by Rahoman ==

[[User:WikiWoggle|WikiWoggle]] ([[User talk:WikiWoggle|talk]]) 16:29, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

{{Lafc|username=Rahoman|ts=13:48, 1 September 2025|draft=Draft:Cosentino_Group}}

:{{u|WikiWoggle}} It was considered an advertisement because it does little more than tell about the person and what they do. Wikipedia articles must do more, they must summarize what independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] '''with significant coverage''' have chosen on their own to say about the person, showing how they meet the special Wikipedia definition of [[WP:BIO|a notable person]]. Press releases, routine announcements, brief mentions and other [[WP:PRIMARY|primary sources]] do not establish notability. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 16:39, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

Hi, I asked for help reviewing this article. Several moderators helped me, you can see it here (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archive_70#h-Requesting_a_submission,_how_to_procede?-20250731130700). But I haven’t gotten any more replies. Where can I request another review now that I’ve fixed everything that was pointed out? Thanks! [[User:Rahoman|Rahoman]] ([[User talk:Rahoman|talk]]) 13:48, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

== [[User:GeorgeM2011/EYstreem]] ==

This article mentioned in the sources goes into significant coverage on the person - https://www.ft.com/content/38d02382-f809-11e4-962b-00144feab7de . He's also the son of Jim Blanchard, who has a Wikipedia page as well - [[Jim Blanchard]]

{{u|GeorgeM2011}} has asked for assistance on their draft [[User:GeorgeM2011/EYstreem]] at {{slink|User_talk:GeorgeM2011#How_to_Improve}}. Any and all assistance would be appreciated. [[User:Primefac|Primefac]] ([[User talk:Primefac|talk]]) 14:25, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

Although Anthem's Anthem Vault isn't related to his father's company, his family history with gold and libertarianism and his current work with gold-backed cryptocurrencies is of notability in my opinion. Please let me know if I can frame it better or if it's still not notable enough. I will stop pursuing this draft. [[User:WikiWoggle|WikiWoggle]] ([[User talk:WikiWoggle|talk]]) 20:38, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

:People do not merit articles because [[WP:NOTINHERITED|their family members do]]. Most reviewers want to see at least three sources with significant coverage. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 20:43, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

:Answered <span style="background-color: RoyalBlue; border-radius: 1em; padding: 3px 3px 3px 3px;">'''[[User:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">qcne</span>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Qcne|<span style="color: GhostWhite">(talk)</span>]]</small></span> 15:38, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

== 16:53:50, 8 November 2020 review of submission by 2601:249:880:AB30:1903:8276:47BE:F5B3 ==

{{Lafc|username=2601:249:880:AB30:1903:8276:47BE:F5B3|ts=16:53:50, 8 November 2020|declined=Draft:Gowri_Nadella}}

Gowri Nadella is a professional model. She has been published in several different magazines and newspapers. The content within the Wikipedia article is factual and supported by the sources I cited. In addition, these sources are all neutral third party and reliable/ well-known publications that have interviewed Gowri or wrote about Gowri. Her career is widespread and is represented in all forms of traditional media.

[[Special:Contributions/2601:249:880:AB30:1903:8276:47BE:F5B3|2601:249:880:AB30:1903:8276:47BE:F5B3]] ([[User talk:2601:249:880:AB30:1903:8276:47BE:F5B3|talk]]) 16:53, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

:The draft does not summarize what independent [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] '''with significant coverage''' have chosen on their own to say about her, showing how she meets the special Wikipedia definition of [[WP:BIO|a notable person]]. Interviews do not establish notability. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 17:01, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

::and Wikitia.com is not a reliable source and neither is Wikipedia. [[User:Theroadislong|Theroadislong]] ([[User talk:Theroadislong|talk]]) 17:04, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

== 1815:28:2254, 81 NovemberSeptember 20202025 review of submission by Publicspeaker202089.101.68.143 ==

{{Lafc|username=Publicspeaker202089.101.68.143|ts=1815:28:2254, 81 NovemberSeptember 20202025|declineddraft=DraftUser:Maharashtra_Students_Welfare_AssociationMichael_miron123/sandbox}}

just a famous lad who wants a Wikipedia account and dose not have any fane [[Special:Contributions/89.101.68.143|89.101.68.143]] ([[User talk:89.101.68.143|talk]]) 15:54, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

please delete the previous article from wikipedia

:Thanks for flagging this up, I will go and delete it. -- [[User:Publicspeaker2020DoubleGrazing|Publicspeaker2020DoubleGrazing]] ([[User talk:Publicspeaker2020DoubleGrazing|talk]]) 1815:2856, 81 NovemberSeptember 20202025 (UTC)

:{{ping|Publicspeaker2020}} It is unclear what you mean by "previous article". If you're requesting that we delete [[Draft:Maharashtra Students Welfare Association]], there's no need for that at present. If it is not edited for six months, it will be deleted then. [[User:Cyphoidbomb|Cyphoidbomb]] ([[User talk:Cyphoidbomb|talk]]) 21:23, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

::{{ping|Cyphoidbomb}} Note that this request came minutes after a different account with a similarly-patterned username created the [[Maharashtra Students Welfare Association|same article in mainspace]], now up for PROD (looks like clear A7-bait to me, but I'll leave it alone for now). --[[User:Finngall|<b style="color: green;">Finngall</b>]] [[User Talk:Finngall|<sup style="color: #D4A017;">talk</sup>]] 21:37, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

:::{{ping|Finngall}} Noted! Added to watchlist. [[User:Cyphoidbomb|Cyphoidbomb]] ([[User talk:Cyphoidbomb|talk]]) 21:40, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

== 2116:20:5231, 81 NovemberSeptember 20202025 review of submission by 2603:8081:500:F700:598C:C0F0:7E34:AFD2Mguenego.usparis ==

{{Lafc|username=2603:8081:500:F700:598C:C0F0:7E34:AFD2Mguenego.usparis|ts=21:2016:5231, 81 NovemberSeptember 20202025|declineddraft=Draft:ReptileLegitStröm_Paris}}

Hello! I'd like to know if my draft is okay and can be published ? Or if I still need to do some modifications ? Thanks a lot. [[User:Mguenego.usparis|Mguenego.usparis]] ([[User talk:Mguenego.usparis|talk]]) 16:31, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

:You have submitted the draft and it is pending. The reviewer will leave you feedback if they do not accept the draft. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 16:40, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

[[Special:Contributions/2603:8081:500:F700:598C:C0F0:7E34:AFD2|2603:8081:500:F700:598C:C0F0:7E34:AFD2]] ([[User talk:2603:8081:500:F700:598C:C0F0:7E34:AFD2|talk]]) 21:20, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

:You didn't ask a question, so we can't help. It looks like draft contributors failed to demonstrate that the subject is notable. [[User:Cyphoidbomb|Cyphoidbomb]] ([[User talk:Cyphoidbomb|talk]]) 21:28, 8 November 2020 (UTC)