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*'''Support'''-- --[[User:Lohengrin|Lohengrin]] ([[User talk:Lohengrin|talk]]) 06:34, 21 May 2016 (UTC)
*'''Support'''-- --[[User:Bouzinac|Bouzinac]] ([[User talk:Bouzinac|talk]]) [[User:Bouzinac|Bouzinac]] ([[User talk:Bouzinac|talk]]) 15:42, 21 May 2016 (UTC)
*'''Oppose'''. Wikipedia follows the [[WP:COMMONNAME]] policy, under which it is mostly irrelevant what the official name is ({{Tq|Wikipedia does not necessarily use the subject's "official" name as an article title}}). What is relevant is the usage in reliable English language sources, and I still do not see any evidence that "Dnipro" is a common name in English language sources. Those who argue for renaming say that "{{tq|there is no reason to think it would not be universally adopted}}". But, Wikipedia should not try to predict the future (see [[WP:CRYSTAL]]). We look into already existing reliable sources to identify the commonly used name, we should not try to predict what the commonly used name will be in the future. So, there is not policy-based reason to rename this article (yet). '''[[User:Vanjagenije|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#008B8B;">Vanjagenije</fontspan>]] [[User talk:Vanjagenije|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#F4A460;">(talk)</fontspan>]]''' 14:29, 22 May 2016 (UTC)
*:[[WP:CRYSTAL]] works both ways here: keeping Dnipropetrovsk as the name of the article means that we predict that the new name will be never used in English-reason sources. Still, in a similar case (McKinley/Denali) this question did not arise. Why should we speculate that the new name will be basically ignored? — [[User:NickK|NickK]] ([[User talk:NickK|talk]]) 16:18, 22 May 2016 (UTC)
* '''Support'''. And just to prevent all kinds of speculation in "common" names which I saw in Kyiv article - for all Ukrainians call it by long DniproPETROVSK name is not common for decades already, saying this as person who lives in this city and who knows a lot of people in Ukraine. [[User:Sandric|Sandric]] ([[User talk:Sandric|talk]]) 18:38, 22 May 2016 (UTC)
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*'''Oppose'''. When it becomes commonly known as Dnipro then we can change it. Until then it's commonly known by its longer name. It is utterly irrelevant what its official name may be or what Ukrainians call it. All that matters is what it's called in reliable English-language sources (discounting those published in Ukraine itself, of course). -- [[User:Necrothesp|Necrothesp]] ([[User talk:Necrothesp|talk]]) 15:14, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
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