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All the users are reverting the addition of in-universe, nofootnotes, notability, and context tags on Dungeons & Dragons creature articles posted by {{user|Gavin.collins}} ([http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Skeleton_%28Dungeons_%26_Dragons%29&diff=prev&oldid=185306663], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Naga_%28Dungeons_%26_Dragons%29&diff=185322707&oldid=185322141], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Naga_%28Dungeons_%26_Dragons%29&diff=185315453&oldid=185271672], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Zombie_%28Dungeons_%26_Dragons%29&diff=185305708&oldid=185280216]). Users are currently edit-warring to keep the tags off, making me suspect these are socks meant to bypass 3RR concerns. -''[[User:Jéské Couriano|Jéské]]'' <sup>(
:This user is likely also connected to [[User:Señor Gray Dwarf]], [[User:Duergarthedwarf]], and [[User:Señor Gray Duergar]]. [[Special:Contributions/207.229.140.148|207.229.140.148]] ([[User talk:207.229.140.148|talk]]) 00:59, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
::Per information [[User talk:Jéské Couriano|here]], is it too much to ask that the underlying IP(s) also be blocked? -''[[User:Jéské Couriano|Jéské]]'' <sup>(
Submitting some more for consideration:
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::?Javier removed obvious vandalism, (the word c**ks), and you're saying that shows he's a wrong'un and part of a complicated conspiracy? [[User:Merkinsmum|<b><font color="orange">Merkinsmum</font></b>]] 13:28, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
:*Just as a comment, I've only removed a small handful of tags recently and only when clearly justified IMO. Jack, and to a much greater extent Gavin, have been adding what seem to be large number of ill considered tags. I've removed about 1% of the tags added by Jack and Gavin in the last 30 days, often after fixing up the article. [[User:Hobit|Hobit]] ([[User talk:Hobit|talk]]) 15:25, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
::Just to clarify, I heavily doubt, borderline refute, that Hobit is involved with this group of puppets. Rray, however, I don't know much about. -''[[User:Jéské Couriano|Jéské]]'' <sup>(
:::There's not much to know; I'm just another Wikipedian. No sock puppetry here though, and I'm focusing on other things besides RPG articles now anyway. Best of luck dealing with the disruptive editors. :) [[User:Rray|Rray]] ([[User talk:Rray|talk]]) 20:49, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
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:I dispute that [[User:Hobit]] and [[User:Rray]] are sockpuppets, or "masterminds" of these sockpuppets. If I am incorrect, I will be the first to publicly apologize to all involved parties. If their inclusion is based solely on the "circumstantial" dispute of a tiny fraction of edits by [[User:Gavin.collins]] and others, then you must include me on this list as well, as I have disputed a tiny fraction too. [[User:Craw-daddy|--Craw-daddy]] | [[User talk:Craw-daddy|T]] | 22:58, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
::I agree; these socks have all (to the exclusion of anything else) targeted Gavin.collins' taggings; Hobit and Rray have not. As it is, I have been reverting all the tag-removal and semiprotecting each article I revert so that it's harder for him to attack articles. However, if we can get him on so much as a single ISP, this might be enough for an abuse-report. Or, if he's using proxies, we can plug those (unless they are Tors). -''[[User:Jéské Couriano|Jéské]]'' <sup>(
*'''Note''' there's more at [[Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Duergarthedwarf]]... — [[User:Scientizzle|Scien]]''[[User talk:Scientizzle|tizzle]]'' 18:38, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
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* I have added {{user|Abovelegality}} and {{user|12.215.78.138}} and removed a duplicate of {{user|Cadderly Bonaduce}}. Also added {{user|Draegloth}}. --[[User:Jack Merridew|Jack Merridew]] 05:31, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
:Blocked the IP for the death threat; your TP is semi'd, as is Gavin's. -''[[User:Jéské Couriano|Jéské]]'' <sup>(
This group of IPs may be useful. They all restored the same personal attack on [[Talk:Sarrukh]] that was first posted by [[User:Luckyevent]] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ASarrukh&diff=186029112&oldid=185940102 diff]. They are in oldest to most recent order.
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:- [[User:Alison|<span style="color:#FF823D;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;cursor:help">'''A<font color="#FF7C0A">l<font color="#FFB550">is</font>o</font>n'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Alison|❤]]</sup> 06:44, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
::So, to clarify, The Cyric accounts are (initially) related only to themselves, not to any of the other named accounts, and not to the Senang Hati (impersonator) accounts? -''[[User:Jéské Couriano|Jéské]]'' <sup>(
::: Ummm - I just did another massive update since your question, and things have radically changed. All the Cyric accounts are related, they're not related to the Senang guy, but they ''are'' related to a lot of the others - [[User:Alison|<span style="color:#FF823D;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;cursor:help">'''A<font color="#FF7C0A">l<font color="#FFB550">is</font>o</font>n'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Alison|❤]]</sup> 06:44, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
::Tagging and blocking where applicable. -''[[User:Jéské Couriano|Jéské]]'' <sup>(
:::Untagging Jesse; I jumped the gun there. -''[[User:Jéské Couriano|Jéské]]'' <sup>(
:::: Sorry about that. Maybe hold off on the tagging for a while until this is done. Group two, however, is pretty uniform and can be tagged/blocked - most likely as Grawp socks, I'm thinking - [[User:Alison|<span style="color:#FF823D;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;cursor:help">'''A<font color="#FF7C0A">l<font color="#FFB550">is</font>o</font>n'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Alison|❤]]</sup> 07:37, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
:::::I've been tagging Group 2; however it's almost midnight here and I need to take a break and maybe [[Diablo II: Lord of Destruction|kill Mephisto]] before I go insane. -''[[User:Jéské Couriano|Jéské]]'' <sup>(
::''following cross-posted from the checkuser/IP check request''
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: {{take note}} - I can state here that the account {{user|Senang Hati (impersonator)}} is {{unrelated}} to [[User:Jack Merridew|Jack Merridew]] above, and that [[User:Jack Merridew|Jack Merridew]] is {{unrelated}} to any of the sock accounts examined here - [[User:Alison|<span style="color:#FF823D;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;cursor:help">'''A<font color="#FF7C0A">l<font color="#FFB550">is</font>o</font>n'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Alison|❤]]</sup> 07:06, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
::[[File:Pictogram voting comment.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Note:''' <!-- Template:RFPP#note --> Cross-posted to AN/I - [[Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive357#Sockfarm_From_Hell]]. -''[[User:Jéské Couriano|Jéské]]'' <sup>(
====Others====
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:{{Take note}} - Jéské - go to bed and get some sleep :) - [[User:Alison|<span style="color:#FF823D;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;cursor:help">'''A<font color="#FF7C0A">l<font color="#FFB550">is</font>o</font>n'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Alison|❤]]</sup> 07:48, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
We have another user: {{checkuser|Otherended}}. Blocked him indef on behavior; is he related to any of the three groups above? -''[[User:Jéské Couriano|Jéské]]'' <sup>(
: {{confirmed}} - {{User|Otherended}}, {{User|Stopdeletionism}}, {{User|Pushhigh}}, {{User|Asideplain}}, {{User|Twicecharm}}, {{User|Tripsteeth}} - these are likely Grawp (group 2) again.
: {{IPblock}} - [[User:Alison|<span style="color:#FF823D;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;cursor:help">'''A<font color="#FF7C0A">l<font color="#FFB550">is</font>o</font>n'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Alison|❤]]</sup> 07:09, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
::Blocking users, reverting edits, and protecting the articles. -''[[User:Jéské Couriano|Jéské]]'' <sup>(
:::All users blocked and tagged; all edits reverted; all articles protected. -''[[User:Jéské Couriano|Jéské]]'' <sup>(
::::Another IP; this one vandalized a RPP request Jack Merridew made. {{checkip|68.185.243.140}}. Related to any of 'em? -''[[User:Jéské Couriano|Jéské]]'' <sup>(
::::: {{inconclusive}} - just one edit, I'm afraid - [[User:Alison|<span style="color:#FF823D;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;cursor:help">'''A<font color="#FF7C0A">l<font color="#FFB550">is</font>o</font>n'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Alison|❤]]</sup> 00:38, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
::::::And another one - {{checkuser|Garyxxxxxx}}. Which group is this one? And as a side note, I keep on timing out at the block page for him. -''[[User:Jéské Couriano|Jéské]]'' <sup>(
:::::::(I was having the same timeout problem, too...but it seems to have gone away.) All of these are worth checking, probably: [[Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Grawp (2nd)]]. — [[User:Scientizzle|Scien]]''[[User talk:Scientizzle|tizzle]]'' 20:11, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
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:::{{clerk note}} Renamed move-wise, should I rename the heading? [[User:Keilana|Keilana]]<nowiki>|</nowiki><sup>[[User talk:Keilana|Parlez ici]]</sup> 20:58, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
::::{{take note}} - that looks super - thanks, Keilana :) I've gone ahead and fixed up the headers an' stuff. Thanks again :) - [[User:Alison|<span style="color:#FF823D;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;cursor:help">'''A<font color="#FF7C0A">l<font color="#FFB550">is</font>o</font>n'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Alison|❤]]</sup> 21:40, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::Another one - {{checkuser|Seemship}}. -''[[User:Jéské Couriano|Jéské]]'' <sup>(
:{{confirmed}} - {{User|Viewturn}}, {{User|Seemship}}, {{User|Rangethird}}, {{User|Zhentarim}}
:{{IPblock}} - [[User:Alison|<span style="color:#FF823D;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;cursor:help">'''A<font color="#FF7C0A">l<font color="#FFB550">is</font>o</font>n'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Alison|❤]]</sup> 02:19, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
::Bagged and tagged. -''[[User:Jéské Couriano|Jéské]]'' <sup>(
:::From AN/I, posting here per Alison's request: ''Coincidentally, Jéské just reported {{User|Zhentarim}} at the above checkuser request and it's now {{confirmed}} as being Grawp. {{User|Halruua}} is now also confirmed, as well as {{User|Daysroach}} and {{User|Toldaside}}. {{IPblock}} also - can someone move these over to the Grawp case at RFCU? I have to run here :) - [[User:Alison|<span style="color:#FF823D;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;cursor:help">'''A<font color="#FF7C0A">l<font color="#FFB550">is</font>o</font>n'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Alison|❤]]</sup> 02:23, 2 February 2008 (UTC)'' -''[[User:Jéské Couriano|Jéské]]'' <sup>(
::::More, these ones from AN/I: {{checkuser|Suck my dick, kid, like your daddy did.}}, {{checkuser|Master of the Flys}}, {{checkuser|Breaking Faces}}, {{checkuser|Hubba Hubba Hot Chick 9 o'clock}} -''[[User:Jéské Couriano|Jéské]]'' <sup>(
: {{confirmed}} - all of them, and more. Grawp has had enough fun for the moment, so I've applied a month-long rangeblock to 4.168.24.0/24, published here [[m:privacy policy|per policy]]. There are other account, like {{User|Selvetarm}}, {{User|I am not Grawp, but I will get blocked by Misza.}}, etc, etc but they're all blocked now. Yes, it's Grawp again - I've now blocked all the unblocked ones - they're in my block logs ... - [[User:Alison|<span style="color:#FF823D;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;cursor:help">'''A<font color="#FF7C0A">l<font color="#FFB550">is</font>o</font>n'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Alison|❤]]</sup> 04:44, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
::Went through their contribution histories and semi-protected every single article they've hit. I only went through the ones you blocked within the past 24 hours; there may be more.
::I have asked [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Dungeons & Dragons]] to provide me with a list of articles that (a) currenly have or have recently had cleanup tags on them and (b) are currently unprotected so that I have a watchlist in case he comes back after the block. I don't see the semi-protections on any of those articles being lifted anytime soon. -''[[User:Jéské Couriano|Jéské]]'' <sup>(
Could I ask for the following user to be checked as well?
:{{checkuser|Whomtends}}
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====Related parties?====
We have five more IPs here who have left death threats at [[User talk:Jack Merridew]] and [[User talk:Gavin.collins]]. Are they related to any of the groups above? {{checkip|85.220.63.247}}, {{checkip|83.7.209.185}}, {{checkip|88.105.62.184}}, {{checkip|84.26.116.251}}, {{checkip|88.9.129.45}} -''[[User:Jéské Couriano|Jéské]]'' <sup>(
:{{possible}} - Likely not Grawp, unless he's moved to the UK. These are all one-off IPs and there's nothing underlying. Tiscali UK DSL range - [[User:Alison|<span style="color:#FF823D;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;cursor:help">'''A<font color="#FF7C0A">l<font color="#FFB550">is</font>o</font>n'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Alison|❤]]</sup> 21:43, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
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Could this be a Gawp variant?--[[User:Gavin.collins|Gavin Collins]] ([[User talk:Gavin.collins|talk]]) 05:55, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
::Possibly; it resolves to Colorado, as does the range Alison hit. -''[[User:Jéské Couriano|Jéské]]'' <sup>(
:::It also occurs to me that this person has vandalized most of the random clicks I made on [[:Category:Dungeons & Dragons articles that need to differentiate between fact and fiction]], and few other people have actually edited those pages recently. If this dude continues relentlessly, we can take the jam out of his donut by mass-semi'ing all of them in one fell swoop (using Twinkle's batch protect) for a month or so. From that point, it makes it more of a pain in the butt to actually accomplish anything without jumping through more hurdles than it's worth— unless, of course, the dude has no life and gets his rocks off to... uhh... vandalizing dungeons and dragons articles repeatedly? :P By the way, don't we have a dungeons and dragons wiki somewhere already? --[[User:Slakr|<span style="color:teal;font-weight:bold;">slakr</span>]]<small><sup>\ [[User talk:Slakr|talk]] /</sup></small> 10:42, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
::::I'm semi'ing each D&D article he hits indefinitely as I see them. -''[[User:Jéské Couriano|Jéské]]'' <sup>(
:::::Also, I just remembered, check out [[User:VoABot II]]'s watchlists/category watchlists. It might be an easier alternative to protection. *shrug*. --[[User:Slakr|<span style="color:teal;font-weight:bold;">slakr</span>]]<small><sup>\ [[User talk:Slakr|talk]] /</sup></small> 03:42, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
::::::Not in this case; the main problem is removal of cleanup tags placed by [[User:Gavin.collins]] and a legitimate removal could unintentionally trigger the bot. -''[[User:Jéské Couriano|Jéské]]'' <sup>(
====New One====
{{checkuser|Giftitem}}. Appeared on [[Talk:Dragon (Dungeons & Dragons)]] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Dragon_%28Dungeons_%26_Dragons%29&diff=prev&oldid=196110134 attacked Jack Merridew]. Cheers. -<font color="black">''[[User:Jéské Couriano|Jéské]]'' <sup>([[User talk:Jéské Couriano|v^_^v]] [[Special:Contributions/Jéské Couriano|:L13 ½-Raichu Soulknife]])</sup></font> 18:57, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
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