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==={{tl|Liliales-stub}} / {{cl|Liliales stubs}}===
New unproposed stub type for an order of monocot plants, complete with its own category (don't you love it when unproposed categories spring up with the WP:WSS notice saying not to create stub types without proposal already in them? Sort of adding insult to injury, or - in this case - perhaps gilding the lily is a better term). Problem with this one is that {{cl|Monocot stubs}} has fewer than 210 unsubcatted stubs, so it's not within a bull's roar of needing a further new split. It also greatly reduces the chances that this type - currently with 25 stubs - will get close to threshold. The template may well be useful in the long run, but it should very likely be upmerged for now. [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...''[[User_talk:Grutness|<small style="color:#008822;">wha?</small>]]'' 11:39, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
*How quickly we forget. See [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Stub_sorting/Proposals/Archive/August_2007#Plant_taxonomy_stubs|Proposals, August 2007]]. [[User:Pegship|Her Pegship]] [[User talk:Pegship|<small><font colorstyle="color:green;">[[User talk:Pegship| (tis herself)]]</font></small>]] 00:29, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
*My count then didn't show viability, either, so I think a category was not necessarily implied by that discussion. If not populable now, upmerge. [[User:Alai|Alai]] ([[User talk:Alai|talk]]) 00:57, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
:The count at the time was 68. [[User:Pegship|Her Pegship]] [[User talk:Pegship|<small><font colorstyle="color:green;">[[User talk:Pegship| (tis herself)]]</font></small>]] 17:12, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
::And now it's at 80. May we keep it, please? [[User:Pegship|Her Pegship]] [[User talk:Pegship|<small><font colorstyle="color:green;">[[User talk:Pegship| (tis herself)]]</font></small>]] 23:59, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Sure. Sorry I didn't know qabout the proposal - trouble with "implied splits" like this one and the one below is that there's no link to the proposal in the "what links here" of the category or template, so it didn't look like it had been proposed. [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...''[[User_talk:Grutness|<small style="color:#008822;">wha?</small>]]'' 00:33, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
::::There's a link to the category from the proposal (but admittedly not to the template). [[User:Alai|Alai]] ([[User talk:Alai|talk]]) 01:07, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::...and I spot them when I go through Special:NewPages/Templates each day, which explains why I didn't see it. I'm far more likely to check the template's links, and didn't recognise the creator's name, so assumed it was unproposed - sorry :/ [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...''[[User_talk:Grutness|<small style="color:#008822;">wha?</small>]]'' 05:27, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::No harm, no foul. Not my proposal in this case, but I must admit I tend to only link (or indeed explicitly list) the category. Of course, if something is proposed initially as an upmerged template, the reverse will be the case (and perhaps otherwise, too). [[User:Alai|Alai]] ([[User talk:Alai|talk]]) 12:58, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::::I have assuaged my (admittedly microscopic) feelings of indignation by adding a note to the top of this page. :P [[User:Pegship|Her Pegship]] [[User talk:Pegship|<small><font colorstyle="color:green;">[[User talk:Pegship| (tis herself)]]</font></small>]] 21:43, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
 
==={{tl|Defensive-lineman-1990s-stub}} / {{cl|Defensive lineman, 1990s birth stubs}}===
Unproposed, but at least the template seems reasonable. Seems to have been pasted over from the equivalent 1980s template and category... Unfortunately, the new category is a problem, however, since it's clearly not likely to reach threshold in the immediate future (I doubt we have 60 stub articles on teenaged defensive linemen at present). Suggest that for the time being upmerging would probably be the most sensible option. [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...''[[User_talk:Grutness|<small style="color:#008822;">wha?</small>]]'' 00:31, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
*Implied in [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Stub_sorting/Proposals/Archive/May_2007#Split_of_2_subcats_of_Cat:American_football_biography_stubs|Proposals, May 2007]]. This is not my day. [[User:Pegship|Her Pegship]] [[User talk:Pegship|<small><font colorstyle="color:green;">[[User talk:Pegship| (tis herself)]]</font></small>]] 00:32, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
 
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