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<code><nowiki><font face="comic sans ms" color="#454545">[[User:James086|]]</font><sup>[[User talk:James086|<font color="#006400">Talk</font>]]|[[Special:Emailuser/James086|<font color="#700000">Email</font>]]</sup></nowiki></code>
Yes, you could have read it from the edit box but it would be mixed with everything else then. Thanks, [[User:James086|<
:The source of the problem is the vertical bar.
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<nowiki>[[Special:Emailuser/James086|<font color="#700000">Email</font>]]</sup></nowiki>
:It causes an "ifelse" statement to become screwed up. Replacing the "|" with either "&#124;" or "<nowiki>{{!}}</nowiki>" will fix the problem. [[User:Gracenotes|<font color="#960">Grace</font><font color="#000">notes</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Gracenotes|<font color="#960">T</font>]]</sup> § 04:42, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
::It works now, thanks a lot. [[User:James086|<
:::No problem! [[User:Gracenotes|<font color="#960">Grace</font><font color="#000">notes</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Gracenotes|<font color="#960">T</font>]]</sup> § 16:11, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
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{| class="messagebox standard-talk"
|[[Image:Stop x nuvola.svg|30px]]<big>'''Reported to Admin'''</big>
You have been reported to admin due to your repeated [[Wikipedia:Vandalism|vandalism]]. An administrator will review your edits and decide whether you should be [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked]]. {{ #if: '''[[User:Asics|<span style="font-family:impact;"><span style="background:black;color:aqua">Asics </span></span>]]'''<small>[[User talk:Asics|<span style="background:black;color:aqua">talk </span>]]</small><sup>[[Wikipedia:Editor review/Asics|<font color="Black">Editor review!
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<br /> Any advice on whether I should leave it in my userspace, or move it to a proper template so others can find and use it more easily? As at the moment you have to type in ''<nowiki>{{Subst:User:Asics/Reported|sig=~~~~}}</nowiki>'' in order to get it to work. Is there another one already made? (Knowing my luck there will be, and I will have wasted 10 minutes making it!) Thanks in advance for any advice, '''[[User:Asics|<span style="font-family:impact;"><span style="background:black;color:aqua">Asics </span></span>]]'''<small>[[User talk:Asics|<span style="background:black;color:aqua">talk </span>]]</small><sup>[[Wikipedia:Editor review/Asics|<font color="Black">Editor review!
:[[Template:Fwarn|Fwarn]] isn't "uw-certified", but it's available. --[[User:TeckWiz|'''TeckWiz''']] <sup>[[User_talk:TeckWiz|Parlate]]</sup><small>[[Special:Contributions/TeckWiz|Contribs]]<sub>[[Special:Emailuser/TeckWiz|@]]</sub>(Lets go Yankees!)</small> 17:30, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
::[[Template:Non-admin fwarn|Fwarn]] is great, I wish it ''was'' "uw-certified." It's documentation needs help though. Not much, just a little. Okay, I'll do it. --[[User:Yksin|Yksin]] 22:53, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
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== Impersonation warnings ==
I was looking for a warning against impersonating other users (in particular, impersonating an admin) and either I missed it completely, or it doesn't exist. This is an obviously unacceptable practice and there should probably be a template message to those who do so. [[User:Bob f it|<font face="Impact" color="#000080" size="2">Bob </font>]]''' <b>f</b> [[User talk:Bob f it|<font face="Impact" color="#800000">it</font>]] 08:44, 5 June 2007 (UTC)'''
:It happens in my opinion very rarely, and I have always been of the opinion that a personalised message is always better. Due to the rarity of this type of problem getting the one size fits all type wording we have with most of the other warnings will be quite difficult. I would recommend writing a personal message. I have been involved with most of these templates since the start, and there have been so many times where I will write a personal message explaining why someone screwed up instead of a template. Impersonating an admin is a bit different, in all cases whether it's someone saying they are going to punish you (which a real admin wouldn't do) or just userboxes, report the matter to [[WP:ANI]], it's much easier to approach the situation as an admin than arguing with someone who is is trying to bully different view points into submission. <sup>[[User:Khukri|'''<font face="verdana" color=#6633cc>Khu</font>''']][[User_talk:Khukri|'''<font face="verdana" color=#CC66FF>kri</font>''']]</sup> 09:54, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
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I've seen cases where users deface/remove vandalism warnings in their user talk and other editors come right in with a template that says "Don't do that." I've been looking for that template (the one flagging removal of warnings from one's own user talk) but I can't find it in [[Wikipedia:Template messages/User talk namespace]]. Did I just miss it or was I seeing something other than a template (macro, cut & paste, etc)?
--[[User:KNHaw|<font face="comic sans ms"><font color="SeaGreen"><i><b>KNHaw</b></i></font></font>]]
:There's uw-tpv1, which warns the user not to edit other people's comments on talk pages, but I'm not aware of anything that specifically addresses editing templated warnings. [[User:Natalie Erin|Natalie]] 19:47, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
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:::Well, the specific case most recently was someone corrupting the warning (i.e. substituting "good" for "vandalism" and other such nonsense). That would seem to call for a vandalism warning as [[User:Hdt83|Hdt83]] says. The earlier incidents I saw of just blanking a page (if showing bad faith) seems like [[User:Natalie Erin|Natalie]]'s suggestion of uw-tpv1 would be in order.
:::Would a template specifically for this seem to be useful? I only really see it once a month or so, but it's not like I'm a really active vandal patroller. --[[User:KNHaw|<font face="comic sans ms"><font color="SeaGreen"><i><b>KNHaw</b></i></font></font>]]
::::I don't think a specific template is necessary, since tpv1 really does cover this action. In general, editing other users comments so that it looks like they said something they did is a bad thing, whether their comment was a vandalism warning or a welcome. [[User:Natalie Erin|Natalie]] 20:08, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
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::I made the change to {{tl|uw-mos1}} - do you see some other issue with this template? As to your second point, bots use their own messaging scripts that are developed by the bot operators.--<span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size:11pt">[[User:Kubigula|Kubigula]] ''([[User talk:Kubigula|talk]])''</span> 16:52, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
:::Uw-v1 is very good now. :) With uw-mos1 you only forgot one word <
== Proposed new template: [[:template:uw-ani]] ==
Per discussion at [[Wikipedia talk:Administrators' noticeboard]], [[User:Anonymous Dissident]] created (with some modifications by me) {{tl|uw-ani}} as a non bitey way to warn users that their post at [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents]] was at the wrong forum. Although it has not been used, in retrospect we probably should have discussed that here first. But if anyone cares to comment on either the utility of the template or suggest (or make improvements) to the template, it would be appreciated. Regards, [[User:Flyguy649|Flyguy649]] [[User talk:Flyguy649|<sup>talk
:It's not a bad idea, though I do have two issues/concerns. First, I'm not sure it's really needed. If someone posts on AN/I and it's clearly the wrong place, someone else will almost always point that out. If it's being pointed out on the thread, it seems unnecessary to point it out again on the poster's talk page. Second, we have lots of forums where someone might post a message that actually belongs elsewhere. We already have {{tl|uw-notaiv}} and {{tl|uw-uaa}}, and I don't know that we want to clutter UTM with a separate template for every possible misposting. So, if we do go forward with this template, I suggest making it a bit more generic to cover various possible mispostings. However, I lean towards thinking this is an individual message rather than template situation.--<span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size:11pt">[[User:Kubigula|Kubigula]] ''([[User talk:Kubigula|talk]])''</span> 21:42, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
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I started to use [[Template:Uw-upv|uw-upv]] earlier today to warn a user, but changed my mind because of this sentence: "If you are the user, please log in under that account and proceed to make the changes." That seems inappropriate in cases where you're sure that the user isn't the same person, like this one [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User%3AWalton_One&diff=154357339&oldid=152268084]. (I'd think that's usually the case, actually -- if you feel you need to warn the person for the edit, it's probably for something that the actual user wouldn't have done.) So, what do people people think about either removing that sentence or making a uw-upv2 that doesn't include it? [[User:Pinball22|Pinball22]] 13:03, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
:I've never been a big fan of that sentence either, and I've only ever used this template if I am virtually certain it's not the user. So, I'd support removal.--<span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size:11pt">[[User:Kubigula|Kubigula]] ''([[User talk:Kubigula|talk]])''</span> 17:16, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
:It's meant to be non-bitey, but I agree that it isn't necessary. [[User:Flyguy649|Flyguy649]] [[User talk:Flyguy649|<sup>talk
::(removed my earlier comment) Well... Personally I would only use this template if I have reasons to assume the edit was made in good faith (eg, someone writing there instead of the talk page, or a neutral edit and in this case the section might be useful te remind that user to log in), and use vand if I think this is vandalism. -- [[User:Lucasbfr|lucasbfr]] <sup>[[User talk:Lucasbfr|<font color="darkblue">talk</font>]]</sup> 18:30, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
:::But since this one specifically says "may be considered vandalism", it's not really useful as a good-faith reminder for those situations either, in my mind. (In fact, I wouldn't mind if there were separate templates for those cases, though that might be going overboard with the templates.) Anyway, yeah, I just used uw-vandalism1 in this case, but I'd like there to be a useful user-page-vandalism one. [[User:Pinball22|Pinball22]] 18:59, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
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I know there is some concern about template creep, or excessive numbers of warning templates, and I share that concern to a degree. However, there is a value in having specific templates available for situations where a more generic warning might not be sufficient to clarify the editing concern. I believe these templates would be useful additions to UTM, and there have been several requests for them.--<span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size:11pt">[[User:Kubigula|Kubigula]] ''([[User talk:Kubigula|talk]])''</span> 19:48, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
:I don't mind the idea of a template for edit summaries. However, I don't see the need for a template for improper warnings. If the warnings are used to vandalise, then use the uw-vandalism series on the user who falsely warned. If the warning was left in error, but in good faith, a friendly note works well. My 2 cents. [[User:Flyguy649|Flyguy649]] [[User talk:Flyguy649|<sup>talk
::I felt the same way initially, but there was a [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject user warnings#Misuse of warning templates notice|conversation]] on the uw talk page that ultimately swayed me to thinking the template could be useful.--<span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size:11pt">[[User:Kubigula|Kubigula]] ''([[User talk:Kubigula|talk]])''</span> 23:08, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
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