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There previously was concern that if we stopped using PC, the WMF would not permit us to later restart it. Steven Walling from the WMF has recently [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kaldari&diff=419541719&oldid=419540349 made it clear] that we are free to stop using PC until we make a final decision. The only restriction is that should we decide to dismantle the infrastructure for PC, the foundation will not set it back up again. There is no need to be so drastic. The trial can be ended by merely removing PC from all articles. —[[User:UncleDouggie|UncleDouggie]] ([[User talk:UncleDouggie|talk]]) 07:50, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

:Yes, UncleDouggie is correct. Just to be super clear: what I'm trying to say (for the tech folks managing Pending Changes right now) is that the community has always and will always be free to just quit using Pending Changes if it wants. But we're only going to remove the extension entirely (and get rid of the rest of the infrastructure, such as the [[Software testing|test suite]]) until the community can show a clear consensus that it does not want to use the feature in the long run. If people want to end the trial and put a moratorium on use until that decision about the long run can be made, that's fine by us. <fontspan style="font-family: Georgia;">[[User:Steven (WMF)|Steven Walling at work]]</fontspan> 23:15, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

::''But we're only going to remove the extension entirely ... until the community can show a clear consensus that it does not want to use the feature in the long run.''

::The "super clear" clarification actually leaves me more confused. By ''only'', did you really mean ''not''? By ''until'', did you really when ''if and when''? — [[User:Alarob|ℜob C.]] ''alias'' [[User_talk:Alarob|'''ᴀʟᴀʀoʙ''']] 16:59, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

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::That proposal calls for yet more studie. I don't understand what questions those studies are supposed to answer. See [[analysis paralysis]]. I think there is enough info by now to say yes (turn it on permanently) or no (turn it off permanently). Saying "yes" should not require a [[Big Design Up Front]]. Just turn it on and figure out through experience how to use it. [[Special:Contributions/75.57.242.120|75.57.242.120]] ([[User talk:75.57.242.120|talk]]) 06:41, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

So closing this has gone nowhere so far for various reasons. Newyorkbrad was asked, but he's very busy with ArbCom stuff. I just asked WJBScribe to do so, since he offered before as a 'crat. If neither of those things happens soon we should act ourselves. <fontspan style="font-family: Georgia;">[[User:Steven (WMF)|Steven Walling at work]]</fontspan> 06:33, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

:I would like to see if one of them will still come through to set a better precedent for handling PC related RfCs. They are both uninvolved, highly respected and no one has raised any objections to having them perform the close. —[[User:UncleDouggie|UncleDouggie]]&nbsp;([[User talk:UncleDouggie|talk]]) 07:28, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

::I'll second that. A status update would be nice, but I think we can afford to be patient. [[User:Rivertorch|Rivertorch]] ([[User talk:Rivertorch|talk]]) 16:50, 8 April 2011 (UTC)