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::::If that works, it would be fine with me as well. – [[User:Jonesey95|Jonesey95]] ([[User talk:Jonesey95|talk]]) 21:52, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

:{{done}}<!-- Template:EP --> I have made the requested change &mdash;&nbsp;Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]]&nbsp;·&nbsp;[[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 08:25, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

== Merging one banner into another ==

Hello, I was wondering if there was anyone here who might be able to assist with merging [[Template:WikiProject Philippine History]] into [[Template:WikiProject Tambayan Philippines]], so that Philippine History appears similarly to the task forces on [[Template:WikiProject Military History]]. I am hoping the coding for such a task is standard enough that it's an easy copy paste, and would look to know if there are any other technical aspects that need looking into (eg. categories), and if the existing templates can be adapted through automation or if they would have to be changed manually. Thanks, [[User:Chipmunkdavis|CMD]] ([[User talk:Chipmunkdavis|talk]]) 04:38, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

:It's not a copy paste at all. BTW, don't attempt to base ''anything'' on the MilHist template, it is extremely non-standard with a number of quirks, and all attempts to harmonise it have, so far, failed.

:The parent project (I guess that is Tambayan Philippines) retains the existing template with its underlying {{tlx|WPBannerMeta}} code. The child project (Philippine History) then becomes task force parameters within that. See [[Template:WPBannerMeta#Task forces]]. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] &#x1f339; ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 09:46, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

::Thanks Redrose. Probably a miscommunication about copying and pasting, but I've tried to implement the parameters you link at [[Template:WikiProject Tambayan Philippines/sandbox]]. A few questions:

::* What is the difference between TF_1_ASSESSMENT_CAT and TF_1_MAIN_CAT? I've put both in following the doc example, but I think that the current [[Template:WikiProject Philippine History]] only has an Assessment cat.

::* Was my implementation of TF_1_QUALITY correct in a way that would maintain the table listed [[Wikipedia:Tambayan Philippines/Task force Philippine History#Statistics|here]]? I'm not entirely sure what the field does, is it creating a separate rating if not used?

::* What code needs to be written on the Wikipedia Talk page to activate the code. Would it be |history=yes ?

::Any other comments are appreciated. There is a profusion of category-related warnings on [[Template:WikiProject Tambayan Philippines/sandbox]] that don't appear at [[Template:WikiProject Philippine History]], is that just a display difference? Some categories such as [[:Category:GA-Class Philippine History articles]] do exist, and I think the syntax I used correctly points to them. [[User:Chipmunkdavis|CMD]] ([[User talk:Chipmunkdavis|talk]]) 10:23, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

::I have created the various categories for other classifications of "Category: X-Class Philippine History articles". The only alert remaining on the sandbox is [[:Category:Philippine History articles]]. Is this needed? I note there is no [[:Category:Philippine-related articles]], despite there being [[:Category:GA-Class Philippine-related articles]] etc. [[User:Chipmunkdavis|CMD]] ([[User talk:Chipmunkdavis|talk]]) 14:20, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

:::Oh dear. {{u|Chipmunkdavis}}, you shouldn't have created those categories until after the changes had been put live. I've not had a chance to properly go through your sandboxed edits yet, and might not for a few days because of work commitments. If we need to make changes, those categories may need to be moved, or even deleted then recreated. Anyway:

:::*{{para|TF_1_MAIN_CAT}} - all pages having the taskforce parameter set to "yes" will be put in here

:::*{{para|TF_1_ASSESSMENT_CAT}} - this is used to construct the category names for e.g. Category:FA-Class ''Foo'' articles, and similar.

:::*{{para|TF_1_QUALITY}} this is a binary parameter, any non-blank value counts as "yes". Tables such as [[User:WP 1.0 bot/Tables/Project/Philippine History]] are bot-built, I need to look up how they're configured.

:::Nearly midnight here, I need to be out by 08:50. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] &#x1f339; ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 23:00, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

Question - [[User:Chipmunkdavis|CMD]], are you planning to separately assess all the articles tagged with Phillipine history or just rely on the quality assessments from WikiProject Tambayan Philippines ? - <b>[[User:Jc37|jc37]]</b> 19:08, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

::::My impression was the categories worked under the current tag anyway. At any rate please G7 them if needed. Regarding assessment, as this is an existing banner they should all theoretically have quality assessments already. The main issue is the current tagging is inconsistent, some have only the history banner, and some have both the history and the main banner. [[User:Chipmunkdavis|CMD]] ([[User talk:Chipmunkdavis|talk]]) 02:02, 15 August 2021 (UTC)

:::::Ok, I went ahead and removed the task force-specific assessment parameters. You or [[User:Redrose64]] are of course welcome to revert my edits there.

:::::I ''think'' this should also fix the needs for the task force-specific categories, which now should be able to be deleted.

:::::Question to you both, does this resolve the template issues so that [[User:Chipmunkdavis|CMD]] (and whomever else) can now implement it (outside of the sandbox)? - <b>[[User:Jc37|jc37]]</b> 02:21, 15 August 2021 (UTC)

::::::I am not sure how the categories and bots interact exactly, but to be clear I am trying to maintain the ability to look at just the History articles as is done at [[Wikipedia:Tambayan Philippines/Task force Philippine History#Statistics]]. Essentially trying to make this merger almost cosmetic, leaving existing operations intact. [[User:Chipmunkdavis|CMD]] ([[User talk:Chipmunkdavis|talk]]) 02:52, 15 August 2021 (UTC)

:::::::Indeed, but I still haven't yet got the time for a proper judgement (four times in the last six days I've stayed on at work for as much as four hours to cover the absence of other staff). What I want to ensure is that the use of {{tlx|Tambayan Philippines|2=history=yes}} puts a page into exactly the same categories that {{tlx|Tambayan Philippines}}{{tlx|Philippine History}} do when used together - this will minimise disruption during the transition phase where some pages have two templates, and some use the combined format. If a template's sandbox shows categories as redlinks with apparent error messages, that's a clear sign that the template code needs adjusting - it doesn't mean that the categories needed to be created. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] &#x1f339; ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 07:34, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

::::::::If you are keeping all the assessment categories then you'll need to add back the {{para|tf 1 importance}} parameter. -- [[User:WOSlinker|WOSlinker]] ([[User talk:WOSlinker|talk]]) 07:40, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

:<small>I happily defer to your (plural) experience : ) - <b>[[User:Jc37|jc37]]</b> 21:28, 16 August 2021 (UTC)</small>

:::::::::I took the existence of there being ''some'' redlink error messages, but ''not'' error messages for the categories that existed (eg. [[:Category:GA-Class Philippine History articles]]), as an indication that the categories were simply not created for the old template. [[User:Chipmunkdavis|CMD]] ([[User talk:Chipmunkdavis|talk]]) 02:14, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

:::::::::{{Ping|Redrose64}} Gentle reminder here if you have time. Best, [[User:Chipmunkdavis|CMD]] ([[User talk:Chipmunkdavis|talk]]) 16:32, 6 September 2021 (UTC)