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I have proposed to merge all version-specific subcategories like {{cl|Scripts encoded in Unicode 13.0}} into {{cl|Scripts encoded in Unicode}}. Discussion is [[Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2020_March_20#Scripts_encoded_in_Unicode_1.0|here]]. -[[User:DePiep|DePiep]] ([[User talk:DePiep|talk]]) 22:13, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
== Special characters in article ==
A recent edit by [[User:Beland]] removed registered trademark symbols (®) and replaced various named character attributes, e.g.,  , with the actual characters or with ASCII quotation marks. Were there Wikipedia policies requiring that? Intuitively, it would seem that it would be easier to edit with named attributes and that the registered symbol was legally required. [[User:Chatul|Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz Username:Chatul]] ([[User talk:Chatul|talk]]) 12:35, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
:The ® is definitely not legally required, and is proscribed against by [[Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Trademarks]]. Conversion of "…" to "..." is required by [[MOS:ELLIPSIS]]. ASCII quote marks are required by [[MOS:STRAIGHT]]. [[MOS:MARKUP]] says in general markup should be kept as simple as possible; since it's usually unnecessary, I've generally been dropping   or (as in this case) converting it to a regular ASCII space. It's generally agreed ([[MOS:NBSP]]) that when thin spaces are used, a named reference of some kind is preferred over the character itself, since it's difficult to tell apart from other whitespace characters. Adding space around special characters is one of the cases where thin spaces are explicitly allowed; if you prefer them over regular ASCII spaces in this case (or no space), feel free to restore them. I recommend using {{tl|thinsp}}, since this is ignored by the automated scan I was using. -- [[User:Beland|Beland]] ([[User talk:Beland|talk]]) 15:04, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
:The ® were removed from the titles of referenced documents. I thought the titles of references were to be kept unchanged as much as possible.
:I also agree that replacing character references with invisible characters is a bad idea.[[User:Spitzak|Spitzak]] ([[User talk:Spitzak|talk]]) 21:13, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
::About the ®: [[MOS:TM]], already referred to, describes that we should use the ''independent sources'' style. On top of this, Unicode themselves prefer to omit the ® symbol: see [https://www.unicode.org/versions/Unicode13.0.0/ Version references]. -[[User:DePiep|DePiep]] ([[User talk:DePiep|talk]]) 21:33, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
::About the ellipsis, the cited [[MOS:ELLIPSIS]] calls for the use of a a non-breaking space before an ellipsis. [[User:Chatul|Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz Username:Chatul]] ([[User talk:Chatul|talk]]) 21:45, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
:::My interpretation of [[MOS:TM]] is that reliable, independent sources can be used to determine styling (like Ipad vs. iPad) but that ® and ™ are to be avoided except as needed for disambiguation. (Though sources independent of the trademark holder rarely use the trademark symbols.) [[MOS:CONFORMTITLE]] says that titles of works should be altered to conform to Wikipedia house style. -- [[User:Beland|Beland]] ([[User talk:Beland|talk]]) 12:12, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
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