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<sup>[[User talk:James086|<font color="#006400">Talk</font>]]</nowiki><span style=background:lightblue>|</span>

<nowiki>[[Special:Emailuser/James086|<font color="#700000">Email</font>]]</sup></nowiki>

:It causes an "ifelse" statement to become screwed up. Replacing the "|" with either "&amp;#124;" or "<nowiki>{{!}}</nowiki>" will fix the problem. [[User:Gracenotes|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#960;">Grace</fontspan><fontspan colorstyle="color:#000;">notes</fontspan>]]^{[[User talk:Gracenotes|<fontsup colorstyle="color:#960;">T</fontsup>]]} § 04:42, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

::It works now, thanks a lot. [[User:James086|<span style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:#454545">James086</span>]]^{[[User talk:James086|<font color="#006400">Talk</font>]] &#124; [[Special:Emailuser/James086|<font color="#700000">Email</font>]]} 09:28, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

:::No problem! [[User:Gracenotes|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#960;">Grace</fontspan><fontspan colorstyle="color:#000;">notes</fontspan>]]^{[[User talk:Gracenotes|<fontsup colorstyle="color:#960;">T</fontsup>]]} § 16:11, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

== Foreign language user warning template ==

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I made a new warning template {{tl|uselanguage}} to tag user talk pages. It has one parameter that is the language code. It will ideally give a warning in the language of the user, but will work with all language codes pointing to the correct WP. It is similar to the family of the contrib-xx1 templates, but can easily be expanded. [[User:AndreasJS|<span style="color:white;background:blue;">&nbsp;Andreas&nbsp;</span>]] ^{<font size="-2">[[User talk:AndreasJS|(T)]]</font>} 00:12, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

:Wow. This is great! We should probably add uw- to the beginning and have this take the place of uw-english. --[[User:TeckWiz|'''TeckWiz''']] ^{[[User_talk:TeckWiz|Parlate]]}<small>[[Special:Contributions/TeckWiz|Contribs]]_{[[User:TeckWiz/@|@]]}</small> 02:45, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

::When it is substituted, however, it will result in a mess of superfluous code, although appear fine. I suggest that we clean it up by ''requiring'' substitution, or else give an error message. [[User:Gracenotes|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#960;">Grace</fontspan><fontspan colorstyle="color:#000;">notes</fontspan>]]^{[[User talk:Gracenotes|<fontsup colorstyle="color:#960;">T</fontsup>]]} § 04:44, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

:::I would suggest to deprecate and bot-replace [[template:UE]] and maybe also those like [[template:contrib-fr1]]. [[User:AndreasJS|<span style="color:white;background:blue;">&nbsp;Andreas&nbsp;</span>]] ^{<font size="-2">[[User talk:AndreasJS|(T)]]</font>} 17:35, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

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Currently, most user warnings in this project make use of <code><nowiki>{{{subst|}}}</nowiki></code> with an optional <code><nowiki>|subst=subst:}}</nowiki></code> parameter that simplifies the output of the template when placed on a user talk page. However, this extra parameter is often excluded, and when used, requires some extra typing and doesn't work without an article parameter due to a bug. Perhaps we could use the much easier <code><nowiki><includeonly>subst:</includeonly></nowiki></code> trick to simplify the output? The <code><nowiki>includeonly</nowiki></code> trick uses no additional parameters, is used automatically every time, and also avoids the bug, allowing it to be used even without an article parameter. I think we should switch all the user warnings under this project to use this format, but I'd like to see if people support this first, since it would affect so many templates. [[User:Pyrospirit|<font color="green">Pyrospirit</font>]] ^{[[User talk:Pyrospirit|<font color="red">Flames</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Pyrospirit|<font color="orange">Fire</font>]]} 02:21, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

:As much as I'd love to implement this, there is no way that ''everyone'' is going to subst user messages (I know, believe me), and if someone doesn't subst a message in the above format, then it will result is a sticky mess of code that will undoubtedly confuse an vandal, or cause said vandal to laugh at Wikipedia's unintentional bad coding, etc. [[User:Gracenotes|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#960;">Grace</fontspan><fontspan colorstyle="color:#000;">notes</fontspan>]]^{[[User talk:Gracenotes|<fontsup colorstyle="color:#960;">T</fontsup>]]} § 14:22, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

::Oh, so it won't work if you don't subst, then? In that case, it would remind them to subst the message when they see the messed up code, so it'll serve two purposes! [[User:Pyrospirit|<font color="green">Pyrospirit</font>]] ^{[[User talk:Pyrospirit|<font color="red">Flames</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Pyrospirit|<font color="orange">Fire</font>]]} 02:54, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

:::Well it would mean that people check the output of the template after putting it. And that's probably not going to happen this century :D That kind of warning is useful on db-reason and afd, because a badly formed speedy deletion or AfD is enough to have the request bumped, but on a user warning, it will just confuse the user receiving the warning even more. -- [[User:Lucasbfr|lucasbfr]] ^{[[User talk:Lucasbfr|<font color="darkblue">talk</font>]]} 06:32, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

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I think its good to bring it into line with the user template rationalisation programme but I don't think it really sits well alongside templates like {{tlx|uw-v1}}. Could it be reclassified somehow? [[User:AndrewRT|AndrewRT]]([[User talk:AndrewRT|Talk]]) 19:04, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

:Mm. The "uw-" prefix applies to user messages in general, although I can see why you're hung up about it. This template is ''not'' a warning template, nor was it ever consciously classified as such. It's actually a notice. Believe me, {{tl|uw-thankyou}} is in no way a warning, but under harmonization and such, it was created to begin with "uw-". I hope that this isn't rather inconvenient. [[User:Gracenotes|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#960;">Grace</fontspan><fontspan colorstyle="color:#000;">notes</fontspan>]]^{[[User talk:Gracenotes|<fontsup colorstyle="color:#960;">T</fontsup>]]} § 22:22, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

===uw-autobiography===

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Rationale: Some editors (mistakenly in my view) believe that any time a test edit is self-reverted then uw-test2 should be used (because it mentions self-reversion) even if the experimenter has no level-1 warnings. I think this is misguided, as self-reverting a test is a lesser "sin" that testing and not self-reverting. The misguidance is coming from the lack of self-reversion being mentioned here at uw-test1. &mdash; <span style="font-family: Tahoma;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">[[User:SMcCandlish|SMcCandlish]]</span> &#91;[[User_talk:SMcCandlish|talk]]&#93; &#91;[[Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish|contrib]]&#93;</span> <span style="color: #990000; font-weight: bold;">ツ</span> 21:04, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

:Then again, there's {{tl|uw-selfrevert}} [[User:Gracenotes|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#960;">Grace</fontspan><fontspan colorstyle="color:#000;">notes</fontspan>]]^{[[User talk:Gracenotes|<fontsup colorstyle="color:#960;">T</fontsup>]]} § 05:26, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

::What templates are to be used when the experimenter:

::# has multiple incidents of self-reverts?

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:Not everyone has these templates on their watchlists. May I suggest you repost your idea here [[WT:UTM]] which is the focal talk page for all user page templates. Regards ^{[[User:Khukri|'''<font face="verdana" color=#6633cc>Khu</font>''']][[User_talk:Khukri|'''<font face="verdana" color=#CC66FF>kri</font>''']]} 17:13, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

::Removing {{tl|editprotected}} for now -- I'd prefer to see a stronger consensus in favor of the change. Doesn't seem like a bad topic for discussion, so feel free to continue to pursue this change. Add the template back after some more discussion, I guess. :) &ndash; <span style="font-family: Garamond">[[User:Luna Santin|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#1E90FF;">'''Luna Santin'''</fontspan>]] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]])</span> 22:18, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

:I support the making a change, but have another recommendation. In my experience, only experienced editors can tell the difference between {{tl|uw-vandalism1}} and {{tl|uw-vandalism2}}, as the same icon is used for levels 1 and 2. Changing this icon will let both other editors (as well as the recipient of the warnings) to know the difference between the two warnings. --[[User:Sigma 7|Sigma 7]] 03:24, 7 May 2007 (UTC)