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# {{Support}}[[User:דוד|דוד]] ([[User talk:דוד|talk]]) 23:49, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

# {{Support}} Our ideas are well suited to the idea of free tourism. Pozdrawiam. [[User:MOs810|MOs810]] ([[User talk:MOs810|talk]]) 23:59, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

# <Ss>'''Oppose''' - My feeling is that such a project is out of the wikimedia philosophy. Its relevance would be to remove promotional content to WP articles. But in my humble opinion, it would be more valuable to link relevant content (educational ones like small places, monument, etc) from the WikiData project (which was launched some weeks ago by the german WP IIUC ?) in each WP article ...... [[User:Genium|Genium]] ([[User talk:Genium|talk]]) 09:33, 19 July 2012 (UTC)</Ss> {{Support}} - The [[w:fr:Discussion:Guedieiros/Suppression|Guedieiros]] article has been deleted from the French wikipedia without any redirect to the [[w:fr:Sendim (Tabuaço)|Sendim]] or Tabuaço pages, so the WikiTravel project probably makes sense. [[User:Genium|Genium]] ([[User talk:Genium|talk]]) 00:14, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

# {{support}} [[User:RaymondSutanto|RaymondSutanto]] ([[User talk:RaymondSutanto|talk]]) 09:35, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

# [[User:Jafeluv|Jafeluv]] ([[User talk:Jafeluv|talk]]) 10:08, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

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#::What has this proposal to do with other possible proposals? All should be judges on their own merits.[[User:Pbsouthwood|Peter (Southwood)]] [[User talk:Pbsouthwood|^(talk)]]: 10:17, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

# '''<s>Oppose</s> Very strong oppose''': Undoubtedly is an awesome project. But visibly the Wikimedia hasn't a clear plan to improve, and even to think of improvements to other projects outside Wikipedia<ref name="test">this can be confirmed [//strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WMF_StrategicPlan2011_spreads.pdf here], where the name Wikipedia is quoted several times while the other projects are rarely mentioned.</ref> (with the exception of commons which has direct link to wikipedia). Wikimedia is good at creating a free encyclopedia, but was not successful in other segments which was proposed. If keep a multilingual project is summarized just to give some money to maintain the servers, leaving the rest with the editors and continue thinking about improvements only for Wikipedia. So no, thanks. And this election is rhetorical, because who does not know the stance of wikimedia when it comes to think of improvements for projects not related to Wikipedia(wikibooks, Wikisource, Wikinews, wikivercity, Wikiquote etc) will vote positive, then this is already a question answered. --[[User:Raylton P. Sousa|Raylton P. Sousa]] ([[User talk:Raylton P. Sousa|talk]]) 13:23, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

# {{#switch:{{BASEPAGENAME}}|Requests for new languages|Proposals for closing projects=Oppose|[[File:Symbol oppose vote.svg|15px|Oppose]] '''Oppose'''}}: At first I voted for the Travel Guide, but after a deeper look into the topic, I have decided to change my mind. I guess the plans are creating a new W'media site, which would use economical and technical resources. Given the World's economy, I do not think W'media should spend money on that when, if we/they want, it is possible to dump Wikitravel's information into W'pedia. Wikimedians also should look for their/our interests, Wikipedia already hosts far more tourist info than Wikitravel. If I look for Wikitravel page about my city, I can only find a Tourist's Yellow Pages. Given the fact that both licenses are nearly the same, I think Wikitravellers should just dump missing yet adequate and relevant information into the different Wikipedia language editions. I think that would make everyone happy. --[[User:Schumi4ever|Schumi4ever]] ([[User talk:Schumi4ever|talk]]) 13:41, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

#:<s>{{#switch:{{BASEPAGENAME}}|Requests for new languages|Proposals for closing projects=Oppose|[[File:Symbol oppose vote.svg|15px|Oppose]] '''Oppose'''}} Users must improve their articles, not a new travel guide. --[[User:Nightfly85|Nightfly85]] ([[User talk:Nightfly85|talk]]) 13:59, 20 July 2012 (UTC)</s> <small>opinion changed --[[User:Nightfly85|Nightfly85]] ([[User talk:Nightfly85|talk]]) 08:36, 24 July 2012 (UTC)</small>

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# {{oppose}} Such a project scorns our values, especially regarding neutrality matters. --[[User:Koui²|Koui²]] ([[User talk:Koui²|talk]]) 09:17, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

# {{Oppose}}: Waste of effort. I fear it will be overloaded by commercial interests and/or (hidden) advertising --[[Special:Contributions/137.248.1.25|137.248.1.25]] 09:32, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

# '''<s>Oppose</s> Very strong oppose''': This is a slippery road to fragmentation of a great encyclopedia. Wikipedia is great because it is all-inclusive. I am vehemently against the proposal. What next? For example, since there is also a great demand for music information as strong as for travel information... Suddenly we will get a proposal for a separate Music Guide where we have only singers and bands, albums and singles and record labels and migrate information to that guide? There is huge demand for education information... So yet a third layer called Education Guide for schools, colleges and universities... I am against Travel Guide, Music Guide, Education Guide, Whatever Guide.. Keep it all under one project and let the reader search within the confines of a great all-inclusive database rather than just consult "some other guide" which what this new proposal boils down to. [[Special:Contributions/70.27.237.45|70.27.237.45]] 13:23, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

#:We have a number of [[sister projects]]. Wikipedia is not a dictionary thus we have Wikitionary, Wikipedia is not a collection of quotes thus we have Wikiquotes. Wikipedia is also not a travel guide [//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:NOT#Wikipedia_is_not_a_manual.2C_guidebook.2C_textbook.2C_or_scientific_journal] thus we have this proposal.[[User:Jmh649|<span style="color:#0000f1">'''Doc James'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Jmh649|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Jmh649|contribs]] · [[Special:EmailUser/Jmh649|email]]) 16:21, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

#*: Of course, similar ''guide''-like educational projects would be proposed by someone (at least me) if this WT becomes a success. And it ''will'' be educational. Supported by WP and [[w:Wikibooks|WB]] and with all those helpful [[Wikimedian|wiki'''m'''edians]], an educational project (or a subproject of [[Wikiversity]]), if launched, can be very successful and directly assumes fulfilling the [[Mission|goal]] and the [[vision]]. :) <span style="text-shadow:#A3BFBF 0.2em 0.3em 0.2em">[[User:Vanischenu|'''V<font color="green">ani</font>s<font color="green">che</font>nu''']][[Special:EmailUser/Vanischenu|m]]<sup style="margin-left:-3.2ex">[[User_talk:Vanischenu|Talk]]</sup></span> 23:38, 25 July 2012 (UTC)