Wikipedia:Graphics Lab/Map workshop/Archive/Jan 2023: Difference between revisions

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:::::::{{Reply to|M.Bitton}} Will do. [[User:Treetoes023|Treetoes023]] ([[User talk:Treetoes023|talk]]) 22:54, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

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==Simple map with two ___location pins==

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Location of David Kelly's home and where his body was found.jpg|The ___location of Harrowdown Hill in comparison with Southmoor, both in Oxfordshire, England

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;Article(s):

: [[David Kelly (weapons expert)‎]]

;Request:

: Could someone do a better map than this, with larger ___location pins? I did the original, which isn't great (it's way too small in the article), and I am sure a better version could be provided. Cheers – [[User:SchroCat|SchroCat]] ([[User talk:SchroCat|talk]]) 11:11, 28 December 2022 (UTC)

:Add: the blue pin is at (approx) 51.701467, -1.438691; the red one is at 51.679818, -1.427914. The positions can be sourced to "Picture Gallery". ''The Times''. 19 July 2003. p. 1. Thanks - [[User:SchroCat|SchroCat]] ([[User talk:SchroCat|talk]]) 21:04, 9 January 2023 (UTC)

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== Map of Kalbiyya tribal territory ==

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File:Latakia districts.png|Map 1 of Latakia Governorate

File:Tartous districts.png|Map 2 of Tartous Governorate (directly south of Map 1)

File:Alawite Distribution in the Levant.png|Map 3 Alawite distribution

Kalbiyya tribal area.svg|{{Legend|#c12838|Distribution of the Kalbiyya tribe in northwestern Syria}}

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;Article(s):

: [[Kalbiyya]]

;Request:

: The Kalbiyya are one of four tribes in Syria belonging to the [[Alawite]] religion. The Alawites all live in a small area - [[Latakia Governorate]] and [[Tartous Governorate]]- in north west Syria. Their main claim to fame is that it's the tribe of [[Hafez Al-Assad]] and [[Bashar Al-Assad]]. Their tribal territory (along with the other 3 tribes) is shown on [https://www.google.co.uk/books/edition/Cycle_of_Fear/4XpeCwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22distribution+of+Alawite+tribes%22&pg=PT10&printsec=frontcover this map] of the Latakia and Tartous Governorates (from {{cite book |last= Goldsmith|first=Leon T. |title=Cycle of Fear: Syria's Alawites in War and Peace |year= 2015}}). The same map but with clearer colours is shown on [https://ourarchive.otago.ac.nz/bitstream/handle/10523/2232/GoldsmithLeonT2012PhD.pdf page xii of the earlier PhD thesis of the same author]. Would it be possible to map the Kalbiyya tribal territory on to a single map which combines 1 and 2 above? Alternatively, and maybe this is the most feasible/best option, use map 3 and shrink down the green area to just the Kalbiyya area. Or just use Map 1 as most of the territory is in Latakia Governorate. [[User:DeCausa|DeCausa]] ([[User talk:DeCausa|talk]]) 14:04, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

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{{I take|[[User:M.Bitton|M.Bitton]] ([[User talk:M.Bitton|talk]]) 15:42, 21 January 2023 (UTC)}}

:{{re|DeCausa}} The map is ready. Could you please provide suggestions for the title, description, categories, structured data, etc.? Thanks. [[User:M.Bitton|M.Bitton]] ([[User talk:M.Bitton|talk]]) 18:27, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

::{{ping|M.Bitton}}, That's great, thanks! Tbh, I thought it it was a long-shot that someone would take it on. I'm not too familiar with this. I assume by title, description and category that's the descriptors I see on Commons files. The title might be "File:Kalbiyya tribal area"; description= Map of northwestern Syria showing the settlement area of the Kalbiyya Alawite tribe; 2 categories: Alawites, Maps of Syria; I don't really understand what's needed for "structured data". Could you explain? [[User:DeCausa|DeCausa]] ([[User talk:DeCausa|talk]]) 21:49, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

::How do I actually see it? [[User:DeCausa|DeCausa]] ([[User talk:DeCausa|talk]]) 22:08, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

:::{{Done}} {{re|DeCausa}} please have a look at the map and let me know if I missed something. Don't worry about the [[Commons:Structured_data|structured data]] for now, anything else other than Q6351774 can always be added later on. [[User:M.Bitton|M.Bitton]] ([[User talk:M.Bitton|talk]]) 22:28, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

::::{{ping|M.Bitton}} That's excellent accuracy. Thank you. I'm just wondering if it would be possible to do a blow up of the Alawite area in the style of [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Latakia_Governorate_with_Districts.png this map]. In an article the relevant red area will be quite small for readers to see otherwise. If a problem, no worries. The map as it is is great. [[User:DeCausa|DeCausa]] ([[User talk:DeCausa|talk]]) 22:48, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

:::::{{Done}} {{re|DeCausa}} I hope that's what you had in mind. [[User:M.Bitton|M.Bitton]] ([[User talk:M.Bitton|talk]]) 21:19, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

::::::{{ping|M.Bitton}} Thanks so much. That's great work. [[User:DeCausa|DeCausa]] ([[User talk:DeCausa|talk]]) 21:50, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

:::::::{{re|DeCausa}} You're welcome. I'm glad you like it. [[User:M.Bitton|M.Bitton]] ([[User talk:M.Bitton|talk]]) 23:43, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

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== Trying again: Request - Update Luxembourg tram network maps ==

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Luxembourg_T1_map-de.svg|Luxembourg tram network German map

Luxembourg T1 map-fr.svg|Luxembourg tram network French map

Luxembourg T1 map-lb.svg|Luxembourg tram network Luxembourgish map

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;Article(s):

: [[Trams in Luxembourg]]

;Request:

: The tram network was extended to Lycée Bonnevoie on 11 September and so the maps need updating.<ref>https://today.rtl.lu/news/luxembourg/a/1964478.html</ref> The stop currently named as "Hippodrome" on the map needs to renamed "Leschte Steiwer/Dernier Sol" and the "Lycée Bonnevoie" stop needs to be renamed "Lycée Bouneweg", as per their officially revealed new names.<ref name="rename">https://www.luxtram.lu/fr/la-ligne/</ref> The under construction stops of "Aeroport de Luxembourg-Findel", "Ban de Gasperich", "Howald" and "Cloche d'Or" in the current iteration of the map, have also been respectively renamed "Findel Aéroport", "Wassertuerm", "Howald Gare" and "Stadion".<ref name="rename" /> It would also be great to have a version of the map with an English-language legend in the bottom right for the Enlgish-language wikipedia. This should be built from the French map, as French-place names in Luxembourg are more common used by English-speakers (the "centre de remisage" label, will obviously just become "Tram depot"). Thanks. [[User:Luxofluxo|Luxofluxo]] ([[User talk:Luxofluxo|talk]]) 16:41, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

{{reflist talk}}

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{{re|Luxofluxo}} judging by the messy code (not sure why they embedded raster images in it), this looks like something you could do all by yourself (using a decent text editor). Open the file and search and replace the relevant text (you'll notice that it's repeated twice, to create the effect, so don't be tempted to remove any of it). If for some of it doesn't align properly, let me know and I'll have a look at it. [[User:M.Bitton|M.Bitton]] ([[User talk:M.Bitton|talk]]) 18:30, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

:@[[User:M.Bitton|M.Bitton]] Thanks. I'm not familar with creating maps, so not sure why the authors chose to do it in such a complicated way. With your help (thanks again), I've created an English language version of the map, using that methodology. A couple of issues remain. The airport station names don't align, and the box around the "Stadion" tram stop extends too far to the left. The tramline has also been extended between Gare Centrale and Lycée Bouneweg. I have no idea how to fill in the connecting lines and nodes to represent that. If you let me know what to do here, I can do this for the other language versions of the map.

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Luxembourg_T1_map-en.svg|Luxembourg tram network English map.

</gallery>@ [[User:Luxofluxo|Luxofluxo]] ([[User talk:Luxofluxo|talk]]) 20:16, 24 January 2023 (UTC)

:{{re|Luxofluxo}} it looks like the text was misaligned to begin with (I removed the white part and moved the purple text to the right). The box hasn't moved and, frankly, is the least of this map's problems. Creating a new line involves using something like [https://inkscape.org/ inkscape] (fairly easy to use with plenty of excellent tutorials online). Again. if you get stuck, don't hesitate to ping me. Best, [[User:M.Bitton|M.Bitton]] ([[User talk:M.Bitton|talk]]) 00:37, 25 January 2023 (UTC)

::@[[User:M.Bitton|M.Bitton]] Thanks. Inskscape took a bit of getting used to, but done! Let me know what you think. [[User:Luxofluxo|Luxofluxo]] ([[User talk:Luxofluxo|talk]]) 19:44, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

::: {{re|Luxofluxo}} you did a great job. [[User:M.Bitton|M.Bitton]] ([[User talk:M.Bitton|talk]]) 20:55, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

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== Change border color of countries from dark gray to white ==

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Middle East (orthographic projection).svg

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;Article(s):

: [[Middle East]]

;Request:

: Change the border color of the countries on the map from dark gray to white so that the borders inside of the green are easier to see and because it is the standard anyways. -- [[User:Treetoes023|Treetoes023]] ([[User talk:Treetoes023|talk]]) 01:32, 20 January 2023 (UTC)

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: {{Done}} [[User:M.Bitton|M.Bitton]] ([[User talk:M.Bitton|talk]]) 17:20, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

:: {{Reply to|M.Bitton}} Can you change all of the borders to white instead of just the ones inside of the green area so the border color is consistent? Like the [[Commons:File:Sub-Saharan Africa.svg|map you made of sub-Saharan Africa]] for example. [[User:Treetoes023|Treetoes023]] ([[User talk:Treetoes023|talk]]) 20:39, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

::: While highlighting the inner borders could be justified, I wouldn't just mess with someone else's work just for the sake of consistency (the enemy of creativity). [[User:M.Bitton|M.Bitton]] ([[User talk:M.Bitton|talk]]) 22:47, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

:::: {{Reply to|M.Bitton}} Oh, well in that case could you make your own map of the Middle East with all white borders like [[Commons:File:Sub-Saharan Africa.svg|your previous work]]? The borders on the current map could also be reverted back to the color they were as not to mess with the author's work. [[User:Treetoes023|Treetoes023]] ([[User talk:Treetoes023|talk]]) 00:00, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

::::: {{Reply to|M.Bitton}} I went ahead and reverted the border color on the current map back to the color they were originally so that you can make your own map of the Middle East with all white borders like [[Commons:File:Sub-Saharan Africa.svg|your previous work]]. [[User:Treetoes023|Treetoes023]] ([[User talk:Treetoes023|talk]]) 03:19, 27 January 2023 (UTC)

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== Afghanistan historical map ==

Currently [[Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan (1996–2001)]] uses [[:File:Afghanistan (orthographic projection).svg]], which is problematic because it shows [[Northern Alliance]] territory as being under the control of the Taliban, which it never was in that period. Could someone make a new version that has the area shown in red on [[:File:Taliban government (early 2001).png|this map]] in lighter green? [[User:25stargeneral|25stargeneral]] ([[User talk:25stargeneral|talk]]) 01:03, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

:The Northern Alliance never claimed to be outside of Afghanistan, so the current map convention is accurate. Civil wars are not depicted in standard orthographic maps. If you want to change it, I would suggest an entirely new map of a different format. [[User:Chipmunkdavis|CMD]] ([[User talk:Chipmunkdavis|talk]]) 01:14, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

::The Taliban was a near-universally unrecognized government in the 90s, so why would we show them with territory that was always under the internationally-recognized government? [[User:25stargeneral|25stargeneral]] ([[User talk:25stargeneral|talk]]) 01:26, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

:::Because the orthographic map series doesn't depict recognition of governments. [[User:Chipmunkdavis|CMD]] ([[User talk:Chipmunkdavis|talk]]) 06:08, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

::::{{not done}} -- [[User:Guerillero|<span style="color: #0b0080">Guerillero</span>]] ^{[[User_talk:Guerillero|<span style="color: green;">Parlez Moi</span>]]} 22:42, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

::::That's not really answering the question. If the article is about this particular regime (and in this case, it is about the regime, not the country), we should be able to have a map that accurately depicts it. "Because we don't do that" is a silly answer if you are unable to explain why. Wikipedia doesn't have rules for their own sake. But if you want to use a different map format for some arbitrary reason, that's fine I guess. All I care about is that we're not misinforming readers. [[User:25stargeneral|25stargeneral]] ([[User talk:25stargeneral|talk]]) 08:38, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

:::::We have series of consistent maps so that readers don't have to relearn what a map shows every time they see one, like every other map maker anywhere who uses consistent colours and symbols across multiple different maps. [[User:Chipmunkdavis|CMD]] ([[User talk:Chipmunkdavis|talk]]) 15:03, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

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== Locator map of mainland Australia in the green and grey globe scheme ==

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File:Mainland Australia (orthographic projection).svg

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;Article(s):

: [[Mainland Australia]]

;Request:

: Make a locator map of mainland Australia in the green and grey globe scheme. -- [[User:Treetoes023|Treetoes023]] ([[User talk:Treetoes023|talk]]) 23:06, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

;Discussion:

:{{ping|Treetoes023}} Done. Is this what you're looking for? —[[User:Twotwofourtysix|<span style="color:#9C59D1">twotwofourtysix</span>]]^{([[User talk:Twotwofourtysix|talk]] &#124;&#124; [[Special:Contributions/Twotwofourtysix|edits]])} 05:58, 2 March 2023 (UTC)

::{{Reply to|Twotwofourtysix}} Almost, I only want mainland Australia to be green, the other parts of Australia should be gray like the rest of the places. [[User:Treetoes023|Treetoes023]] ([[User talk:Treetoes023|talk]]) 13:21, 2 March 2023 (UTC)

:::Done that. —[[User:Twotwofourtysix|<span style="color:#9C59D1">twotwofourtysix</span>]]^{([[User talk:Twotwofourtysix|talk]] &#124;&#124; [[Special:Contributions/Twotwofourtysix|edits]])} 13:41, 2 March 2023 (UTC)

::::{{Reply to|Twotwofourtysix}} Thank you very much! [[User:Treetoes023|Treetoes023]] ([[User talk:Treetoes023|talk]]) 13:53, 2 March 2023 (UTC)

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