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== Optional welcome ==
There are a few kinds of messages, such as conflict of interest warnings, that are rarely used alone. For example, I often have to deliver such a warning after tagging a page for speedy deletion, which, if done using TW, also ensures that the user receives a welcome message. Thus, the "welcome" part of {{tl|uw-coi}} is often redundant. I think such templates should have a <code>welcome=no</code> option, or alternatively, we could create a second class of templates without such messages. [[User:Feezo|Feezo]] <
[[User:Feezo|Feezo]] <
: If you are referring to the first line of [[Template:uw-coi]] 'Welcome to Wikipedia.' Then I agree that could be replaced with 'Hello' or 'Hello <nowiki>{{BASEPAGENAME}}</nowiki>. In terms of Twinkle posting welcome messages at the same time as other warnings, that would need to be discussed at [[WT:TWINKLE|Twinkle talk]]. [[User:Pol430|<span style="color:#00008B;">'''Pol430'''</span>]] [[User talk:Pol430|''talk to me'']] 13:35, 9 March 2011 (UTC)
::I've edited it as you suggested — that seems easier than messing about with Twinkle. [[User:Feezo|Feezo]] <
::: Thanks, I've just subst-ed the basepagename param [[User:Pol430|<span style="color:#00008B;">'''Pol430'''</span>]] [[User talk:Pol430|''talk to me'']] 11:50, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
== "Thank you" ==
To my eyes, the "Thank you" that tails many of the user warnings is borderline passive-aggressive. For one, it assumes that the user agrees with the message and will heed it (presumably what they're being thanked for.) For another, it heightens the impression that the user is being bureaucratically "processed" via a one-way communication. I would replace many or all uses of this with something that encourages interaction: for example, I usually end custom notifications with "Let me know if you have any questions, <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> ". [[User:Feezo|Feezo]] <
: The 'Thank You' is an optional param (in most templates) and can be replaced with additional text (see template docs). I suppose Thank You was chosen because it seemed to be the most standardised ending for standardised templates. If you issue the template via Twinkle the 'Thank You' param is still apparent even if you add additional text (see [[User talk:Pol430/Sandbox|here]]). I don't think it practical to change the ending of every uw-* template. Perhaps the good people at Twinkle can come up with a solution for, optionally, not including the 'Thank You' param when issuing a template via Twinkle. [[User:Pol430|<span style="color:#00008B;">'''Pol430'''</span>]] [[User talk:Pol430|''talk to me'']] 12:00, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
::Hmm, why wouldn't it be practical? If there are no objections, I'd like to start working on this. [[User:Feezo|Feezo]] <
::: Well, are you proposing to do it for just single issue notices? Or all uw-* templates? I don't think there are many single issue warnings that end with thank you (I haven't checked). The multi level templates generally end in thank you for level 1 and level 2, whilst level 3 and 4 just end... I have no objections to "Let me know if you have any questions, <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>" replacing "Thank you" on single issue notices. I think single issue warnings should just end with a sig, and the multi templates seem fine as the are (the endings at least). In terms of practicality [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3APrefixIndex&prefix=Uw-&namespace=10 this is the complete list of all uw- templates], note there are 3 pages. [[User:Pol430|<span style="color:#00008B;">'''Pol430'''</span>]] [[User talk:Pol430|''talk to me'']] 12:06, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
::::The ones I'm looking at are {{tl|uw-username}} and {{tl|uw-coi}}, which I use with some regularity. It may be that "Thank you" is appropriate for some templates, and for many, e.g., 3rd and 4th level warnings, we shouldn't use either. [[User:Feezo|Feezo]] <
:::::<s>It looks like {{tl|Documentation}} would need to be changed too, since it makes reference to "Thank you" as the default text. Actually, that should be removed from the documentation in any case, since it's used on many templates that don't have the "Thank you" option. [[User:Feezo|Feezo]] <
:::::Actually it was {{tl|Templatesnotice}}, and the problem is that some templates don't make use of its <code>nothankyou=yes</code> parameter. [[User:Feezo|Feezo]] <
:::::: Yeah, some of the standardised templates are more standardised than others, apparently... Anyhow, I have no objections to the changes you suggest. [[User:Pol430|<span style="color:#00008B;">'''Pol430'''</span>]] [[User talk:Pol430|''talk to me'']] 20:33, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
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As a community, we've been discussing how to make the site more welcoming to newcomers, and I think part of that may be making templated messages seem less cold and machine-like. With that in mind, I recommend changing the word "reverting" to "undoing" in Template:uw-selfrevert. While "revert" is a fairly common English word, it is a bit formal and somewhat smacks of Wikipedia jargon. "Undoing" is more likely to be understood easily and seems less pretentious. Thoughts? [[User:Kansan|Kansan]] ([[User talk:Kansan|talk]]) 16:42, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
:Sounds reasonable to me. I don't really like the use of 'experiment' either, but I'm not sure what would be a good alternative. [[User:Feezo|Feezo]] <
::While I personally prefer 'experiment,' maybe we could use 'test' instead? — [[User:Kralizec!|Kralizec!]] ([[User talk:Kralizec!|talk]]) 12:29, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
::: 'Reverting' is collective term whilst an 'undo' is a specific action on Wikipedia (see [[Help:Reverting]]). Templates should avoid confusing users who may not know any better; Therefore, I feel we should continue to disambiguate the two actions. [[User:Pol430|<span style="color:#00008B;">'''Pol430'''</span>]] [[User talk:Pol430|''talk to me'']] 22:50, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
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:{{txl|notyours}}. [[User:SchuminWeb|SchuminWeb]] ([[User talk:SchuminWeb|Talk]]) 20:56, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
::That was deleted last year. The current one has the somewhat unintuitive name {{tlx|Uw-tpv1}}. <
== Template:s/wnote appears to no longer be maintained. ==
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Let's say [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=&diff=prev&oldid=416121022 this edit] to [[User:Cymru.lass|my userpage]] was vandalism. The syntax for warning the editor with a diff would be {{tlxs|uw-vandalism1/sandbox|2=User:Cymru.lass|3=diff=416121022}}. This would give:
<div style="text-align: center;">[[File:Information.svg|25px|alt=]] Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute to Wikipedia, at least one of [[Special:Contributions/Template messages|your recent edits]], such as the {{diff|diff=prev|oldid=416121022|label=one you made}} to [[:User:Cymru.lass]], did not appear to be constructive and has been [[Help:Reverting|reverted]] or removed. Please use [[Wikipedia:Sandbox|the sandbox]] for any test edits you would like to make, and read the [[Wikipedia:Welcoming committee/Welcome to Wikipedia|welcome page]] to learn more about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. Thank you.<!-- Template:uw-vandalism1 --></
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Thanks. [[User:Nick Levinson|Nick Levinson]] ([[User talk:Nick Levinson|talk]]) 01:35, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
:Many template parameters break if a URL is included and you can see that if you try the same code but remove the URL it works, so including the URL was the culprit. A common fix is to use "1=" in the parameter, which does work here, i.e., the following fixes the problem:
::<small><code><nowiki>{{subst:Uw-username|</nowiki><
:Cheers.--[[User:Fuhghettaboutit|Fuhghettaboutit]] ([[User talk:Fuhghettaboutit|talk]]) 13:40, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
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== [[Template:uw-ew]] ==
I just created {{tlx|uw-ew}} to complement {{tlx|uw-3rr}}. Personally, I have always been a little dissatisfied with how that template emphasizes [[WP:3RR|3RR]] in particular more than the edit warring policy in general; I often find myself in situations where it is appropriate to give someone a warning about edit-warring behavior even though they are not necessarily in danger of breaching 3rr, and in those cases {{tlx|uw-3rr}} is often more a distraction than anything else--people read it and, rather than dealing with the issue, just respond "but I haven't broken 3RR". So anyway, I just threw together {{tlx|uw-ew}} as a very similar template only without a warning about 3rr in particular. If there is any way it can be improved feel free to play with it. <b class="IPA">[[Special:Contributions/Rjanag|r<
:Thanks. I have often found that the standard edit-warring warning overemphasises 3RR, so that users tend to think it means that it's OK to edit was as long as they stop short of 3RR. That is not a reasonable reading of the message, but it is a very common one. Maybe the new template will help. [[User:JamesBWatson|JamesBWatson]] ([[User talk:JamesBWatson|talk]]) 10:19, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
== Ayn Rand missing from uw-sanctions template ==
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*Please update the doc page accordingly. I tried to remove the parameter from the documentation but it's only transcluded from some standard page. So maybe the template should have a documetation of its own now. [[User:De728631|De728631]] ([[User talk:De728631|talk]]) 20:21, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
*I don't know if this has been implemented yet but if not, it should be. Good idea and well reasoned. [[User:Doomgaze|<span style="color:red;">doom</span><span style="color:black;">gaze</span>]] [[User talk:Doomgaze|<span style="color:green;">(talk)</span>]] 19:14, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
::Yeah, it's been implemented. I've updated the documentation. <span style="font-family: Palatino Linotype, Book Antiqua, Palatino, serif;
== Little single-issue notice for people who edit talk page archives ==
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:You raise a good point. We probably should separate the two templates. [[User:SchuminWeb|SchuminWeb]] ([[User talk:SchuminWeb|Talk]]) 18:44, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
A proposal relating to this issue has been made at [[Wikipedia talk:Edit warring#RfC on proposed new 3RR exemption]]. <
== Notice about 'tone'? ==
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Where can I find joke edit warnings with text such as "The joke is getting old"? [[User:Thomas|Thomas]] ([[User talk:Thomas|talk]]) 20:17, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
:You are probably looking for [[Template:Uw-joke1]]. –[[User:CWenger|CWenger]] ([[User talk:CWenger|<
== uw mos 4 ==
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== Uw-attack ==
I don't think {{tl|Uw-attack}} should end with "Thank you". It looks patronising and insincere. <span style="font-family: Palatino Linotype, Book Antiqua, Palatino, serif;
:Eh, it's borderline. They pretty much all end "thank you". It starts coming across as a little sarcastic around {{tl|uw-upv}}, but any overly-civil message can be taken sarcastically when it's posted in response to bad behavior, and the alternative is to sound curt. If you want to ensure it's not taken a way it isn't intended though, we could always change it to this:
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== IMDB ==
If a user is continuously adding [[Internet Movie Database|ImDb]] content to articles, which is by policy not allowed in Wikipedia, which warning should I use? <
:Assuming you're not talking about [[WP:IMDB|linking to IMDB]] but rather using IMDB as a source, there isn't really a suitable template for that, but you could perhaps leave a brief message on the user's talk page explaining that IMDB is not a reliable source, citing [[WP:IMDB/RS]]. - [[User:SudoGhost|Sudo]][[User_talk:SudoGhost#top|Ghost]] 14:57, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
::Yes, thats what I meant. Thanks a lot. <
== A Minor Question ==
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{{od|:::::}} In interest of consensus building: I don't see that the phrase "Your test worked" is bitey or patronising. In the case of an apparent test edit it seems entirely appropriate to highlight it as such. [[User:Pol430|<span style="color:#00008B;">'''Pol430'''</span>]] [[User talk:Pol430|''talk to me'']] 10:01, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
:I support the wording ''"You have edited a page on Wikipedia"'' as being the most informative, least presumptuous, least jargon-y, and least open to misinterpretation. <span style="font-family: Palatino Linotype, Book Antiqua, Palatino, serif;
:: That would render the current template: "You have edited a page on Wikipedia, and it has been reverted or removed."—something of a mixed signal? Additionally, that would remove any specific reference to test editing from the template. You could, of course, reword the template to accommodate the new phrase, although it is likely that this would lengthen template, making it less concise. TBH I think [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Uw-test1&oldid=462130799 this revision] is perfectly acceptable; but fail to see that the original text was in any way bitey. [[User:Pol430|<span style="color:#00008B;">'''Pol430'''</span>]] [[User talk:Pol430|''talk to me'']] 11:59, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
:::The rest of the template would read something like "...for one reason or another, your edit didn't appear to improve the page, and was reverted or removed. If you disagree, or have a question, feel free to ask on my talk page. If you'd like to learn more about contributing to Wikipedia, please see our [[Wikipedia:Introduction|welcome page]]. To make experimental edits, please use the [[Wikipedia:Sandbox|sandbox]]. Thanks."
:::I personally don't see the value in making the template more concise. For many new editors, this will be their first interaction with another Wikipedian; should we not go out of our way to try to make it a good one? <span style="font-family: Palatino Linotype, Book Antiqua, Palatino, serif;
::::If the wording "your test worked" doesn't apply, then uw-test1 doesn't apply, and another template would probably be better instead. I don't see it as being too concise, because only a very specific type of edit would, in my opinion, warrant this template. - [[User:SudoGhost|Sudo]][[User_talk:SudoGhost#top|Ghost]] 19:52, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
::::: That's more or less what I was trying to say—perhaps badly... [[User:Pol430|<span style="color:#00008B;">'''Pol430'''</span>]] [[User talk:Pol430|''talk to me'']] 19:55, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
:::::For the record, I don't think this template is BITEy; the problem is that "test" is interpretive and jargony. Calling the template "test" is fine — but ''telling'' users that their edit was a "test" is not helpful, in my opinion. <span style="font-family: Palatino Linotype, Book Antiqua, Palatino, serif;
::::::I don't necessarily disagree, if it was a test edit, then they know it was. How about something like this?
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::::::I'm sure that exact wording would be objected to by someone, but it was my attempt at saying "your test worked" without actually saying it. - [[User:SudoGhost|Sudo]][[User_talk:SudoGhost#top|Ghost]] 20:15, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
:::::::Yes, this would be a good replacement. I would just change "further" to "with editing" to avoid implying that the first edit was an experiment. I like that your version explicitly says the edit was successful, since this is sometimes a point of confusion for new users who have their edits reverted. <span style="font-family: Palatino Linotype, Book Antiqua, Palatino, serif;
::::::::Yep, looks like a suitable replacement to me [[User:Pol430|<span style="color:#00008B;">'''Pol430'''</span>]] [[User talk:Pol430|''talk to me'']] 20:45, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
{{od}}I went ahead and changed [[template:uw-test1|uw-test1]] and tested it to make sure the formatting was correct. Everything looks correct, but additional eyes on it would be appreciated. - [[User:SudoGhost|Sudo]][[User_talk:SudoGhost#top|Ghost]] 20:50, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
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:BTW, if you want to hear from a number of editors, you might use {{tlx|rfc|proj}} instead of {{tlx|help me}}. <span style='font:1.0em "Apple Garamond","Adobe Garamond Pro",Garamond,serif;color:#369;'>[[User:DoriSmith|Dori]] ☾[[User talk:DoriSmith|Talk]] ⁘ [[Special:Contributions/DoriSmith|Contribs]]☽</span> 02:31, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
:: Reasonable statement, however, the template does mention content to cover all of what you specified. The objective of adding references as a mention is because it appears to be the third most common target of removals, therefore, it should be stated as an example. '''By the way, the pages I have created for the sandbox should be moved into the Template: space.''' I could not do so due to technical restrictions. Thanks. [[Special:Contributions/75.53.218.81|75.53.218.81]] ([[User talk:75.53.218.81|talk]]) 18:46, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
:::We could just say "Please do not remove ''anything'' from pages on Wikipedia without giving a valid reason". Seems like a valid statement. And it covers... anything. '''<
::::Reasonable. We could refer to "content", and perhaps that will be all. Thanks. <small>(On another computer)</small> [[Special:Contributions/69.155.136.134|69.155.136.134]] ([[User talk:69.155.136.134|talk]]) 22:25, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
::::I don't believe it would be incredibly reasonable to say "Please do not remove ''anything'' from pages on Wikipedia without giving a valid reason". Edit summaries are encouraged; however, they are not required. The only time that a reason is "required" (not by a rule but by de facto editing standards) is when a removal of information is contentious. Vandalism reversions don't require a reason.<samp> </samp>[[User:Ryan Vesey|'''''Ryan''''']] [[User talk:Ryan Vesey|'''''Vesey''''']] [[Special:Contributions/Ryan Vesey|<small>Review me!</small>]] 06:29, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
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This template is adding an extra space before a signature when using Twinkle so that it signs like this:
[[User:Saedon|<
I took a look at the code but I'm not sure how to fix this. [[User:Saedon|<
:First could specify which template you mean. And secondly isn't possible, that the extra space is added by Twinkle? [[User:Armbrust|Armbrust, B.Ed.]] [[User talk:Armbrust|<sup style="color:#E3A857;">WrestleMania XXVIII</sup>]] [[Special:Contributions/Armbrust|<sub style="color:#008000;">The Undertaker 20–0</sub>]] 12:00, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
::Based on the contribs preceding opening this thread, I believe Saedon was referring to [[:Template:uw-ewsoft]]. I tried it and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:SudoGhost/Sandboxes/PrimarySandbox&oldid=498820896 it did the same for me]. I've [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Uw-ewsoft&diff=498821411&oldid=498576533 tightened up the spacing] in the template [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:SudoGhost/Sandboxes/PrimarySandbox&oldid=498821468 and it seemed to fix the issue]. - [[User:SudoGhost|Sudo]][[User_talk:SudoGhost#top|Ghost]] 12:15, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
:::Yes exactly. Sorry, I didn't realize I wasn't on the talk page of that template. Thanks for fixing :) [[User:Saedon|<
== Proposing changes to the most common level 1 warnings ==
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== Concerning Uw-protect ==
Hi. I was just directed to the existance of this template for the very first time, despite my being here almost 8 years, and I would like to say that while it's a sad reflection on the state of affairs we find ourselves in, I find it welcome that we have something like this. Could I enquire with you as to whether this is a single issue warning, or whether it is something like a uw-*-im template, as in an immediate cessation of the activity concerned? <span style="border: 1px solid red;">[[User_talk:BarkingFish|<
:According to [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Uw-protect&action=history the template's history] it's a fairly new one. It's in the [[Wikipedia:Template messages/User talk namespace/Single-level templates#Single issue warnings|single issue warnings]] section, but I'm not 100% sure what you're asking about the cessation of activity. Given the template's subject matter, I'd imagine continued behavior that necessitated the use of the template would probably result in an immediate [[WP:ANI]] discussion being opened. - [[User:SudoGhost|Sudo]][[User_talk:SudoGhost#top|Ghost]] 01:16, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
== Messages for new-page creators ==
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:Note that all of these will optionally include, "you recently removed some content ''from page'' without explaining why..." <span style="font-family:Palatino, Georgia, serif;">[[User:Steven (WMF)|Steven Walling (WMF)]] • [[User talk:Steven (WMF)|<span style="color: #8080b0">talk</span>]]</span> 20:27, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
::Since I, like countless other users, very frequently issue warnings for reverts which were performed by others, I strongly oppose option B (as well as all other warnings which similarly claim that the warning issuer was also the reverter).<p>A lot of times, when I issue a level 1 warning, it's an AGF with a wink – I know that the edit most likely was not done in good faith, but I AGF anyways. But I see how something like blanking could easily be done accidentally, so I think it's good to acknowledge that, and my preference would be C. (I know that shorter is considered preferable, so A would also be fine on that basis.) [[User:Mandarax|<span style="color:green">M<small>AN</small>d<small>ARAX</small></span>]] <span style="color:blue">•</span> [[User talk:Mandarax|<span style="color:#999900"><small>XAЯA</small>b<small>ИA</small>M</span>]] 21:55, 1 August 2012 (UTC)</p>
:::Okay, I think we can go with option A then. I think it's even better than the current version, because it pushes what we actually want the person to do at a minimum (which is explain why they are doing something). Thanks for the comments. :) <span style="font-family:Palatino, Georgia, serif;">[[User:Steven (WMF)|Steven Walling (WMF)]] • [[User talk:Steven (WMF)|<span style="color: #8080b0">talk</span>]]</span> 23:16, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
:::{{Done}} now. <span style="font-family:Palatino, Georgia, serif;">[[User:Steven (WMF)|Steven Walling (WMF)]] • [[User talk:Steven (WMF)|<span style="color: #8080b0">talk</span>]]</span> 22:59, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
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== Template:uw-attempt ==
Hello, is there an kind alternate template to {{tl|uw-attempt}}? I would prefer to use a template that kindly warns first time offenders instead of giving a level 4im. I have created an example template in my [[User:Riley Huntley/sandbox|sandbox]]. <span title="Shoot!" style="font-family: Mono; font-weight: bold; cursor: crosshair;">-- Cheers, [[User:Riley Huntley|<
== Bot for Categories ==
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== [[Template:Uw-copyright]] ==
There was a concern brought to my attention recently that this template is too harsh in its wording; particularly the bolded text at the end that threatens the editor with a block if copyright violations are persistent. I said I would bring the issue here for opinions. I understand that we want to be strict about copyright issues, and that is a persuasive argument. But I wonder if anyone believes the template could be worded better. On the flip side, perhaps the issue lies more with the editor who uses the template - i.e., that editors should be apt to use it more for egregious violators, and less for established users or those that have made one-time mistakes, when personal messages might be better instead. <small><
:Have you looked at {{tl|uw-copyright-new}}? It has a gentler tone for new users - for more experienced users and/or repeat offenders, I think the stronger tone of {{tl|uw-copyright}} is probably appropriate. --''[[User:Philosopher|Philosopher]]'' <sup>[[User talk:Philosopher|Let us reason together.]]</sup> 05:37, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
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::::::::::::Everytime someone ''tries'' to discuss the content, you attempt to shoot it down citing an RfC that does not reflect what you're saying. Please stop this. - [[User:SudoGhost|Sudo]][[User_talk:SudoGhost#top|Ghost]] 00:12, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
:::::::::::::Steven, I too am mystified by your response above. {{xt|The proportions of ''what'' stayed the same}}? Not that it matters, really. What I am interested in discerning is: now that we as patrollers are ''in real time'' using these revised templates, do you have any evidence that the "difference in tone" is teaching newbies or contraries to become good editors and thusly retain them? Not during the study, but now? Because as I posted above, I haven't even had one editor reach out and touch me with any kind of response. I have them all watched, and I don't see them growing into blooming flowers who wish to make amends and edit well. They are all fading away, or getting further sanctions. I think the new template messages are ''weaker'' in tone to the point that when I use anything below a 2, all my cautionees yawn at me and say "that's nice". <b>[[User:Fylbecatulous|<span style="color:#595454;">Fylbecatulous</span>]] [[User talk:Fylbecatulous|<span style="color:#967BB6;">talk</span>]] </b> 00:38, 8 November 2012 (UTC)\
{{od}} The proportions of level one templates used compared to level two warnings. The point was that patrollers overall are not abandoning the level one templates. They work, even if that personally has not been your experience. <
===Moving forward===
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== Wnote shortcut ==
Why does [[Wikipedia:WikiProject user warnings/Wnote]] have a shortcut of {{tl|s/wnote}} (as documented [[Wikipedia:WikiProject user warnings/Usage and layout#Layout|here]])? {{tl|s}} is a shortcut to {{tl|space}}, which produces non-breaking spaces. This seems weird. — [[User:Hex|<span style="color:#000;">Hex</span>]] [[User_talk:Hex|<span title="Hex's talk page"><
:Agreed it seems weird. Could it have simply been a typo when the redirect was originally created? (Note that the redirect target includes the string "s/".) And now it's enshrined in documentation and 109 transclusions? – [[User:Wdchk|Wdchk]] ([[User talk:Wdchk|talk]]) 03:17, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
== Level 1 templates: parameter 2 ==
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== New test warning to welcome anon users ==
I've seen lots of test edits by anonymous, [[IP Address]], users who have not yet received a welcome message. Also, I noticed that there doesn't seem to be a [[Wikipedia:Welcoming committee/Welcome templates|wikipedia welcome template]] that is specifically designed to warn anonymous users that testing isn't appropriate (I've searched extensively -- more than just that page). I worked up a template to fill this gap but I don't know if it's ready for primetime. I'm looking for an experienced template editor to help polish and guide this useful tool through the final stages. Please post something on my talk page if you're interested in helping. Thanks! - <b>[[User:Tucoxn|<
::Did you see [[Template:welcome-anon-test]]? [[User:Jojalozzo|<span style="color:#500000;">Joja</span>]][[User talk:Jojalozzo|<span style="color:#005000;">lozzo</span>]] 21:02, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
:::I did. That message doesn't use any of the [[help:magic words|magic words]] that identify an anon user's [[IP address]]. Also, why doesn't it simply include the language in <code><nowiki>{{subst:Shared IP advice}}</nowiki></code>? - <b>[[User:Tucoxn|<
::::As I recall it was based on another welcome message that must not have had those features. I have no problem with you improving it. I added the basepagename parameter, edited it a bit for possible shared usage and added the shared IP advice from welcome-anon-vandal. [[User:Jojalozzo|<span style="color:#500000;">Joja</span>]][[User talk:Jojalozzo|<span style="color:#005000;">lozzo</span>]] 04:20, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
:::::Thanks, [[User:Jojalozzo|Jojalozzo]]. Adding the basepagename parameter was one of the things I wanted to see. I made a couple small edits. Let me know what you think before I suggest any additional changes. - <b>[[User:Tucoxn|<
::::::This is great. Go for it. [[User:Jojalozzo|<span style="color:#500000;">Joja</span>]][[User talk:Jojalozzo|<span style="color:#005000;">lozzo</span>]] 17:25, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
:::::[[User:Jojalozzo|Jojalozzo]], I'm still looking into tweaks that can be made to {{tl|welcome-anon-test}} but I noticed something else on the template that doesn't seem to work and I don't know how to fix it. The "Username" parameter doesn't seem to function. Could you verify that it's broken and and fix it? Thanks! - <b>[[User:Tucoxn|<
::::::Yes, I'll have a look... [[User:Jojalozzo|<span style="color:#500000;">Joja</span>]][[User talk:Jojalozzo|<span style="color:#005000;">lozzo</span>]] 02:54, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
::::::If you add your user name as the second parameter it makes the text "my talk page" into a link to your talk page. That is working. Maybe we just need to clarify the docs to say that. I just copied the welcome-anon-vandal docs so I will update them both. [[User:Jojalozzo|<span style="color:#500000;">Joja</span>]][[User talk:Jojalozzo|<span style="color:#005000;">lozzo</span>]] 03:11, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
::::::I wikified the link to the <code><nowiki>{{</nowiki>[[:Category:Wikipedians looking for help|helpme]]<nowiki>}}</nowiki></code> template. I'm also working on distributing wiki-links to [[Template:welcome-anon-test]] to the other locations where welcome and vandalism/test templates are located.
::::::One thing I don't know how to do: the words "here on ''your'' talk page" should have the same link for the user to edit his talk page. I think this is another opportunity for some of wikipedia's [[help:magic words|magic words]]. Thanks! - <b>[[User:Tucoxn|<
:::::::Such a link would only be useful when the template is used ''somewhere other than on a user's talk page''. I do not think such a use case exists. [[User:Jojalozzo|<span style="color:#500000;">Joja</span>]][[User talk:Jojalozzo|<span style="color:#005000;">lozzo</span>]] 19:40, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
== Template:uw-notenglish ==
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== Username warning, suggested improvement ==
I should like to have an additional parameter in {{tl|Uw-username}}, say {{para|goodedit}
{{quote|''Please note that this is a procedural matter, and not a reflection on your edits, which are most welcome''}}
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*Current:
*#{{tq|Your account has been '''[[WP:Block|blocked]] indefinitely''' from editing Wikipedia because it appears to be mainly intended for publicity and/or promotional purposes. Please read the following carefully.}}
*#{{tq|Am I allowed to make these edits if I change my username?<
*Proposed:
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== Overtemplating equivalent to uw-tdel series? ==
I was wondering if there was an equivalent to the <
:Try the {{tlxs|uw-disruptive1}} series. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 18:52, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
::Thanks, that should cover the situation fine. —/[[User:Mendaliv|<b>M</b><small>endaliv</small>]]/<sup><small>[[User talk:Mendaliv|2¢]]</small></sup>/<sub><small>[[Special:Contributions/Mendaliv|Δ's]]</small></sub>/ 19:02, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
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:{{stop}} This is your '''only warning'''. If you don't start assuming good faith '''right now, you may be [[WP:BLOCK|blocked from editing]] without further notice.''' [[User:Ginsuloft|Ginsuloft]] ([[User talk:Ginsuloft|talk]]) 00:18, 24 September 2013 (UTC)
Meh, How about this: [[image:stop_hand.svg|35px]] This is your '''only warning'''. The next time you assume bad faith on other users '''right now, it could result in a [[WP:BLOCK|loss of editing privileges]].''' [[User:DDreth|<span style="color:Red;">'''DD'''</span><span style="color:green;">'''reth'''</span>]] [[User talk:DDreth|<
{{Reply to|Mr. Stradivarius}} I think it might be worth taking them to [[WP:TfD|TfD]], especially since they don't really provide any information about exactly what the person needs to do differently. Ginsuloft & DDreth I really can't think of a time when it would be appropriate and necessary to give someone a warning about not AGF which doesn't assume good faith. Any and everytime there is an AGF issue it should be explained and discussed since [[WP:AGF]] depends a lot on personal interpretation of comment. '''[[User:Callanecc|Callanecc]]''' ([[User talk:Callanecc|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Callanecc|contribs]] • [[Special:Log/Callanecc|logs]]) 01:40, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
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