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Stub for use by [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Irish Republicanism]]. <font face="Verdana">[[User:One Night In Hackney|<span style="color:#009">One Night In Hackney</span>]]<sub>''[[User talk:One Night In Hackney|303]]''</sub></font> 00:41, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
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:'''delete''' for being ambiguous. [[User:Monni1995|Monni]] 05:41, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
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==={{tl|criminology-stub}} / {{tl|criminal-justice-stub}}===
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I've been working on [[criminology]] topics, as one of my areas of focus on Wikipedia. Despite my slow efforts, our coverage of this topic remains poor. I just created an article on the highly influential work, ''[[The Division of Labour in Society]]'' by [[Emile Durkheim]], which is a classic work that is covered in basic-level criminology (and sociology) university courses. I'm surprised that this article did not exist yet. A few months back, I also found that no article existed on [[gun violence]]. (this is still a stub) As I keep working on this topic, I'm sure to find many more such missing articles. When I create them, I'd like to tag them as a stub, with something more specific than {{tl|crime-stub}}. This stub category isn't quite appropriate for articles like [[The Division of Labour in Society]], which is a hodgepodge category. The same situation applies to our coverage of [[criminal justice]] topics, which deal with the system/response aspects of crime such as [[corrections]] ([[prison]]s and other forms of punishment) and [[law enforcement]]. The {{tl|crime-stub}} category includes numerous articles on correctional facilities (e.g. [[Sullivan Correctional Facility]], [[Sugamo Prison]], [[Ogdensburg Correctional Facility]], to name a few). At this point, I'm pretty much the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Criminal justice|WikiProject]], and hope you will cut me some slack on the "good number of stub articles" requirement. I think many of these stub articles don't exist yet. Stub categories that are more specific than "crime" would help me (and others) keep track of articles and work on criminology and criminal justice topics. --[[User:Aude|Aude]] <small>([[User talk:AudeVivere|talk]])</small> 19:21, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
:Okay, I see that we have {{tl|prison-stub}}, which helps. It still would help to have something between {{tl|crime-stub}} and {{tl|prison-stub}}. "Crime" is just too broad, and sorting things into more specific stub categories such as {{tl|criminal-justice-stub}} and {{tl|criminology-stub}} would help me enormously. --[[User:Aude|Aude]] <small>([[User talk:AudeVivere|talk]])</small> 19:26, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
::There's already {{tl|law-enforcement-stub}}, {{tl|criminal-law-stub}}, {{tl|forensics-stub}} and {{tl|criminologist-stub}} in addition to the aforementioned {{tl|prison-stub}}. (Not to mention {{tl|crime-bio-stub}} and {{tl|crime-org-stub}}.) With only ~450 crime stubs and apparently a fair degree of undersorting (which sadly is not that unusual for stub categories), I'm inclined to be skeptical of the desirability of either proposed stub without some indication that there are the normal amount stubs for creating a new stub type. <span style="font-family:cursive">[[User:Caerwine|Caerwine]]</span> [[User_talk:Caerwine|<small style="font-family:sans-serif;color:darkred">Caer’s whines</small>]] 21:26, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
:::{{tl|criminologist-stub}} could be merged into {{tl|criminology-stub}}. {{tl|law-enforcement-stub}}, {{tl|forensics-stub}}, and {{tl|prison-stub}} would be subcategories of {{tl|criminal-justice-stub}}. If really necessary, I could probably find 30-60 stubs to create for each... the topic is that underrepresented. But don't have the time to do that now, and it's better to do them more gradually. And such arbitrary requirements are just that... arbitrary. For now, I just won't bother tagging them as stubs, because lumping all these together under {{tl|crime-stub}}, especially for criminology topics, is not useful for people working on the articles. --[[User:Aude|Aude]] <small>([[User talk:Aude|talk]])</small> 21:49, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
:::: I think the first task is to sort the crime stub articles into the 5 (or more) existing categories, then see how many are have left over, since Carewine mentioned there are 450 undersorted crime stubs, a good sort may clean it right up into good condition again? [[User:Goldenrowley|Goldenrowley]] 05:03, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
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