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:And it would be nice to have a better fallback in the future. Clicking on the links results currently in a not very helpful popup. https://i.imgur.com/IyXvE6p.png & [[MediaWiki:Scribunto-common-no-details]] should probably link to this page so people can get help if they need it & [[MediaWiki:Scribunto-lua-error]]. [[User:Polygnotus|Polygnotus]] ([[User talk:Polygnotus|talk]]) 04:33, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

::FWIW: The article source, at the bottom, shows "Lua memory usage: 52428782/52428800 bytes" in the limit report. – [[User:Jonesey95|Jonesey95]] ([[User talk:Jonesey95|talk]]) 18:28, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

== A systematic way to avoid reference errors may be needed ==

I wonder, looking at [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Module:Wd_reference_errors&from=Com just the "Comparison of ..."] articles in {{cl|Module:Wd reference errors}} (currently 1,181 pages), whether a change to the module might help fix some of these errors. Having an error message displayed instead of a reference, especially when nothing has changed in the Wikipedia article, is not good practice. It may be helpful for someone familiar with this module and with Wikidata's structure to look through a sample of these errors to see if a default setting like "prefer the most recent reference when a reference is requested" or a similar preference might help fix some of these errors. – [[User:Jonesey95|Jonesey95]] ([[User talk:Jonesey95|talk]]) 18:55, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

:{{ping|Jonesey95}} The vast majority of the errors are caused by missing titles. The error messages were introduced into this module as a result of [[/Archive_1#Reference formatting bug when using "author name string" (P2093)|this discussion]]. I do agree that the current message, which doesn't specify what exactly caused the issue, is not good, and I plan to fix that in some time. However, this might be a complex problem, and I don't think I will have time for that in several months, at least.

:As for the errors specifically, you might want to propose a change the module to not need titles in Wikidata references. In that case, you should read the mentioned discussion. [[User:Janhrach|Janhrach]] ([[User talk:Janhrach|talk]]) 18:51, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

::A template-based reference that is missing a title is (a) incomplete, and should generate an error message, and (b) should generate an error message saying specifically that the title is missing. I hope that will not be difficult to achieve. – [[User:Jonesey95|Jonesey95]] ([[User talk:Jonesey95|talk]]) 19:15, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

:::So we can do nothing about the number of the errors, except editing Wikidata. (Making a Wikidata bot adding titles to references is possible, but I can't do so.) As for no. 2, I am going to fix that ''sometime''. [[User:Janhrach|Janhrach]] ([[User talk:Janhrach|talk]]) 19:59, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

::::A missing title is not an error and should not generate an error message. I asked about making a wikidata bot to add titles to references and all I got was [[Module_talk:Wd/Archive_1#Bot_task%3A_adding_%22title%22_to_a_reference_url]] 6 months ago you also said "''Right now, I do not spend much time editing Wikipedia''".[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Module_talk:Wd&diff=next&oldid=1181989022] Why do we have to depend on 1 busy volunteers spare time to fix this important problem? Perhaps some of that $180.2 million of WMF revenue could be spent on something actually useful? [[User:Polygnotus|Polygnotus]] ([[User talk:Polygnotus|talk]]) 20:24, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

:::::See [[WP:BAREURL]]. If not an error message, then at least append {{tl|Bare URL inline}} to tag the reference for cleanup. – [[User:Jonesey95|Jonesey95]] ([[User talk:Jonesey95|talk]]) 20:31, 5 March 2024 (UTC)