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:::I like it because it signals to students "You don't have to know any of this for the exam. You can take a nap instead of reading this if you want.". [[User:Kurzon|Kurzon]] ([[User talk:Kurzon|talk]]) 21:14, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
::::That's not a Wikipedia goal. Plus any student who can't figure this out is probably napping already. [[User:Johnjbarton|Johnjbarton]] ([[User talk:Johnjbarton|talk]]) 00:52, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
:::::@[[User:Johnjbarton|Johnjbarton]] and @[[User:Kurzon|Kurzon]]
:::::Thanks for all the remarkable changes to this page. They were very much needed and are solidly geared to the educational and informative purposes of Wikipedia.
:::::I'm surprised it took 7 years (2023) for someone to remove my egregious "self-promotion" (from 2016) citations that I added in the hopes that the subject matter would be taken up with much more seriousness than this page originally had. A student alerted me to this over the weekend when she couldn't find the citations and images she heard about from former students! I wish I had the time over the last several years to do what you've done in the last year or so with this page.
:::::On that note, I'm happy to see the 1904 model cited as the first atomic model with internal components. It was quite a dramatic theological and empirical break from the "atomic" nature of the Greek "atomos".
:::::I guess I wasn't crass enough at the time nor as deeply invested in pushing historical science fact in response to flippant "classroom" views on Wikipedia. I'm seeing a similar trend on reddit which has an almost purely mindless and pedantic academic tone today on physics-related threads rather than genuine knowledge- and skill-building thinking. Got to keep up those exam scores up, I guess, rather than actually learn, invent, or create anything meaningful.
:::::I often wonder if the internet we built will ever fulfill its leveled playing field goal before it's dumbed-down to the point of informational extinction.
:::::Carry on. This is great work! [[User:Tjlafave|TJ LaFave]] ([[User talk:Tjlafave|talk]]) 19:32, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
:Alternatives include:
:* The plum pudding model was the first modern scientific model of the atom.
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