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:Will investigate &mdash;&nbsp;Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]]&nbsp;·&nbsp;[[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 15:14, 31 January 2025 (UTC)
:{{fixed}} silly error which did not show itself on my test cases &mdash;&nbsp;Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]]&nbsp;·&nbsp;[[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 20:50, 31 January 2025 (UTC)
 
== [[:Category:Disambig-Class List articles]] and others ==
 
@[[User:HouseBlaster|HouseBlaster]] and @[[User:R'n'B|R'n'B]] have pointed out a problem with the code for projects that have opted out of PIQA. We are using [[Module:Pagetype]] to detect whether a page is an article or some other type of page (e.g. disambiguation pages and redirects are not classified as articles), and this is used to determine whether to use "pages" or "articles" in the category name.
 
The problem occurs for opt-out projects because they can set their class to be whatever they wish, regardless of the page type. For example [[C2Cl2F4]] is a list article but WikiProject Lists classified it as a disambiguation page. Therefore it is going into [[:Category:Disambig-Class List articles]] rather than [[:Category:Disambig-Class List pages]]. &mdash;&nbsp;Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]]&nbsp;·&nbsp;[[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 08:38, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
 
:We should distinguish between two things here. What a project classifies a page for their project, and what a page is. WP History can say that in their opinion an article is not the global quality of say "B" and they give it a "C", what they can't do, is say an article is a category. Same thing with disambiguation pages. A page is, or is not, a disambiguation page. That is something that is global. I'm opposed to any and all changes which let projects falsely identify pages. [[User:Gonnym|Gonnym]] ([[User talk:Gonnym|talk]]) 10:54, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
::It appears the articles in [[:Category:Disambig-Class List articles]] were just rookie mistakes. They are now in [[:Category:List-Class List articles]] (not [[:Category:Disambig-Class List pages]] since, as correctly stated, they are articles). [[User:Nurg|Nurg]] ([[User talk:Nurg|talk]]) 23:40, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
::There are projects that choose to define certain categories as Project-class because they are internal project categories rather than content categories. I'm not sure we should be enforcing such a strict interpretation, to stop them doing that &mdash;&nbsp;Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]]&nbsp;·&nbsp;[[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 10:33, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
:::Well then, start an RfC and lets see where the consensus is. [[User:Gonnym|Gonnym]] ([[User talk:Gonnym|talk]]) 10:48, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
::::I'm not the one trying to change the status quo &mdash;&nbsp;Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]]&nbsp;·&nbsp;[[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 21:36, 1 February 2025 (UTC)
See also related discussions at [[Template talk:WikiProject banner shell#Request: Class=Project to override other default allocations]] and [[Template talk:WikiProject Military history#Redlinked class-rating categories, again]]. I am thinking that we should keep a record of which classes are "pages" and which classes are "articles". Then opt-out projects can do whatever they like without messing up the category system &mdash;&nbsp;Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]]&nbsp;·&nbsp;[[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 21:39, 1 February 2025 (UTC)