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:@[[User:FrodoMarsh|FrodoMarsh]]: [https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-toronto-star-homegrown-hospital-dram/174282375/ Here it is]. —[[User:Bruce1ee|Bruce1ee]][[User talk:Bruce1ee|^''talk'']] 06:58, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

::Thank you very much, I really appreciate it! [[User:FrodoMarsh|FrodoMarsh]] ([[User talk:FrodoMarsh|talk]]) 01:20, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

== Help Needed: Place of Birth for John S. Bennett (1911), British WWII Spy ==

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If anyone has access to Findmypast, UK Birth Index (GRO Index), Ancestry.co.uk or a similar resource to help improve the Wikipedia article on [[John S. Bennett]] ((22 March 1911 – 10 December 1970), a British spy during WWII? His place of birth is currently missing from the entry. Apologies if this isn’t the right place to ask.

Many thanks, --[[User:Aeengath|Aeengath]] ([[User talk:Aeengath|talk]]) 16:02, 10 June 2025 (UTC)

:@[[User:Aeengath|Aeengath]]: Ancestry is available via TWL (though there a some occasional issues with stuck loading screens).

:The closest thing I could find that matched his background is [https://www-ancestryinstitution-com.wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org/imageviewer/collections/2352/images/rg14_07678_0659_03?pId=41039419 this] census from 1911, when he was born. It mentions Charles Alan Bennett as the father, Constance Radeglence Bennett(?) as the mother, and their unnamed son, who is under one month of age. This son was born at [[St Albans]]. In my opinion, this unnamed son is John S. Bennett. The parents match up, and if his age was under a month at the time of the [[1911 United Kingdom census|census]], which took place in April 1911, then the birthdate would be some time in March, matching that of John S. Bennett's. [[User:ARandomName123|ARandomName123]] ([[User talk:ARandomName123|talk]])^{<span style="color: green"><small>Ping me!</small></span>} 20:04, 10 June 2025 (UTC)

::Also check out TWL's access to newspapers.com. It has some coverage on Bennett, and a decently long profile and image on his wife. [[User:ARandomName123|ARandomName123]] ([[User talk:ARandomName123|talk]])^{<span style="color: green"><small>Ping me!</small></span>} 20:11, 10 June 2025 (UTC)

:::Thanks so much @[[User:ARandomName123|ARandomName123]] for pointing me in the right direction, much appreciated.

:::I've now found two independent sources on Ancestry confirming that he was indeed born in St Albans so this is definitely a helpful addition for the article. You're absolutely right about the 1911 census match, everything lines up, and it gives a solid basis for adding the birthplace without OR.

:::That said I’m having trouble turning up anything on Ancestry’s newspaper records for either Bennett or his wife nothing seems to come up on my end. I also don’t have access to Gale either, unfortunately. If you happen to have a direct link to that profile and image you mentioned, I’d be really grateful, might be a glitch on my side. Many thanks again for your help -[[User:Aeengath|Aeengath]] ([[User talk:Aeengath|talk]]) 12:12, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

::::I just want to point out the all of this information via Ancestry etc are primary sources, which we WP editors are not supposed to be using without secondary support. [[WP:PSTS]]. There is a significant danger of doing original research of a genealogical nature. [[WP:OR]]. And honestly, that seems to be what you are doing, as you are making (a probably correct) deduction that this is the right family. Addendum... unless the indepedent sources on Ancestry you mention are actually secondary sources such as newspapers. Maybe I have misunderstood. If so, sorry. [[User:Slp1|Slp1]] ([[User talk:Slp1|talk]]) 16:28, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

:::::Please also see this Ancestry listing on the Reliable sources noticeboard list which makes the same point about how WP editors should treat the primary sources on Ancestry [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Perennial_sources#Ancestry.com][[User:Slp1|Slp1]] ([[User talk:Slp1|talk]]) 16:39, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

::::::Hi @[[User:Slp1|Slp1]] You're absolutely right to raise that, I’ll treat the census as a working lead only and will hold off until I can find a proper secondary source to support the birthplace. Thanks for flagging and for the RSN link. -[[User:Aeengath|Aeengath]] ([[User talk:Aeengath|talk]]) 20:00, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

::::@[[User:Aeengath|Aeengath]]: Are you searching newspapers.com? I think it's also by Ancestry, but in my experience, it has better coverage. Anyways, some stuff that may be useful: [https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-houston-post/174245824/ profile of wife + image] and [https://www.newspapers.com/article/bucks-free-press-marriage-of-bennett/174297613/ this has an exact date for their marriage]. Some other random tidbits, interesting but probably not important: [https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-houston-chronicle/174297507/ some info on food they eat], [https://www.newspapers.com/article/evening-standard/174300699/ broke his arm] and [https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-houston-chronicle/174300764/ in a car accident].

::::As for Gale, searching through the databases I have access to doesn't turn up much, though if you'd like a copy of the two articles I cited, just send me an email. [[User:ARandomName123|ARandomName123]] ([[User talk:ARandomName123|talk]])^{<span style="color: green"><small>Ping me!</small></span>} 16:34, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

:::::Thanks @[[User:ARandomName123|ARandomName123]] that’s really helpful. I’ve been searching via AncestryInstitution through TWL so that probably why nothing’s showing up. Thanks for those clippings, really appreciate you taking the time to pull those together. I might take you up on the offer for the Gale articles, I’ll drop you a quick email. Thanks again! -[[User:Aeengath|Aeengath]] ([[User talk:Aeengath|talk]]) 19:56, 11 June 2025 (UTC) {{tl|Resolved}} [[User:Aeengath|Aeengath]] ([[User talk:Aeengath|talk]]) 12:29, 13 June 2025 (UTC)

== Esperanto dictionary articles ==

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* {{Cite journal |last=Harry |first=Ralph L. |date=1989-01-01 |title=Development of a Language for International Law: The Experience of Esperanto |url=https://www.jbe-platform.com/content/journals/10.1075/lplp.13.1.04har |journal=Language Problems and Language Planning |language=en |volume=13 |issue=1 |pages=35–44 |doi=10.1075/lplp.13.1.04har |issn=0272-2690}}

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For [[Plena Vortaro de Esperanto]] and [[Plena Ilustrita Vortaro de Esperanto]].

Thanks, [[User:BaduFerreira|BaduFerreira]] ([[User talk:BaduFerreira|talk]]) 15:42, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

:{{doing}} – [[user:Doc Taxon|Doc Taxon]] • <small>[[user talk:Doc Taxon|Talk]]</small> • 11:13, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

::@[[User:BaduFerreira|BaduFerreira]]: {{sent}} – [[user:Doc Taxon|Doc Taxon]] • <small>[[user talk:Doc Taxon|Talk]]</small> • 06:09, 13 June 2025 (UTC)

:::@[[User:Doc Taxon|Doc Taxon]] Received, thank you! [[User:BaduFerreira|BaduFerreira]] ([[User talk:BaduFerreira|talk]]) 15:44, 13 June 2025 (UTC)

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== "Captain Cook as a Navigator" 1969 from ''Notes and Records of the Royal Society of London'' ==

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** {{cite journal |last1=Deacon |first1=G. E. R. |last2=Deacon |first2=Margaret |title=Captain Cook as a Navigator |journal=Notes and Records of the Royal Society of London |date=1969 |volume=24 |issue=1 |pages=33–42 |doi=10.1098/rsnr.1969.0005 |jstor=530739 |s2cid=145011452 |issn=0035-9149}}

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For [[James Cook]]

I looked in [[WP:TWL]] but could not find it.

Thanks, [[User:Noleander|Noleander]] ([[User talk:Noleander|talk]]) 01:58, 13 June 2025 (UTC)

:@[[User:Noleander|Noleander]]: Accessible via TWL through JSTOR: https://www-jstor-org.wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org/stable/530739

:The Royal Society is also on TWL, but access is not automatic, and you need to apply first. On a side note, the search bar at the top of TWL doesn't seem to cover all databases TWL has access to, so try seeing if you can find the website in the list of partners instead (in this case, JSTOR). [[User:ARandomName123|ARandomName123]] ([[User talk:ARandomName123|talk]])^{<span style="color: green"><small>Ping me!</small></span>} 02:31, 13 June 2025 (UTC)

::Excellent ... got it at the JSTOR link. Thanks for the tip about trying partner searches if the main TWL search field fails. {{tl|resolved}} [[User:Noleander|Noleander]] ([[User talk:Noleander|talk]]) 02:51, 13 June 2025 (UTC)

== "Cooking the Books: Contested Colonial Commemorations in Australia" ==

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For [[James Cook]]

I looked in WP:TWL but could not find it.

Thanks, [[User:Noleander|Noleander]] ([[User talk:Noleander|talk]]) 02:06, 13 June 2025 (UTC)

:@[[User:Noleander|Noleander]]: Accessible via TWL through De Gruyter: https://www-degruyterbrill-com.wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org/document/doi/10.1515/iph-2018-0021/html [[User:ARandomName123|ARandomName123]] ([[User talk:ARandomName123|talk]])^{<span style="color: green"><small>Ping me!</small></span>} 02:33, 13 June 2025 (UTC)

::Excellent ... got it. Not sure why a search (by title) in WP:TWL did not return the article. {{tl|resolved}} [[User:Noleander|Noleander]] ([[User talk:Noleander|talk]]) 02:50, 13 June 2025 (UTC)