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Eclipse is a is an open-source, platform-independent software framework, written primarily in Java, for delivering what the project calls "rich-client applications", as opposed to "thin client" browser-based applications. So far this framework has typically been used to develop Integrated Development Environments (IDEs), such as the Java IDE called Java Development Toolkit (JDT) and compiler (ECJ) that comes as part of Eclipse (and which are also used to develop Eclipse itself). However, it can be used for other types of client application as well. Therefore it shouldn't be listed here has and IDE... JBuilder,Flex, MyEclipe, Rationa Web Developer all are IDEs based on the Eclipse framework, but Eclipse itself is not an IDE, is a plataform to build applications (and for the most part, it has been used to build IDEs) <small>—The preceding comment is by [[User:{{{User|189.132.178.49}}}|{{{User|189.132.178.49}}}]] ([[User talk:{{{User|189.132.178.49}}}|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/{{{User|189.132.178.49}}}|contribs]]) {{{Time|00:37, 5 June 2007}}}: ''[[Wikipedia:Signatures|Please sign your posts!]]''</small><!-- {{unsigned3}} -->
: Although that sounds reasonable, if you ask Java developers what they use, a lot of them will say "Eclipse". I'll change the page to say "Eclipse JDT" just to make it clear what project they are using, but removing the word "Eclipse" from that line would be hopelessly confusing. [[User:William Pietri|William Pietri]] 01:55, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
:Thanks, yes, I know that most people confuses Eclipse the platform with Eclipse + Most commonly used plug ins for eclipse, that is why I think that from an encyclopedia point of view (neutral?) the difference should be explained (it should be about what is true, not what the majority believes... don't you think?)
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