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*I am not sure why there seems to be so much hostility, but RASD is very credible. The methodlogy has been around for many years and used by many companies. As Dhartung stated, I am the autor of the methdology. RASD was specifically designed to mitigate issues with COTS. I surely hope Wikipedia is more professional than my short experience seems to lend. I am sure the company will base its judgment on fact, not opinion. This will be my last post. [[User:Itsme01|Itsme01]] 04:04, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
::*I'm sorry that you've found the discussion hostile and unprofessional; I've tried really hard to make sure that the [[WP:N|criteria]] we're basing the decision on are clear to you, and been very careful not to just use Wikipedia jargon that you might not be familiar with. The heart of the discussion is whether or not RASD is [[WP:N|notable]]. What would really help show that RASD meets the [[WP:N|notability criteria]] are some sources- articles about it in trade journals, magazines, even detailed reviews of it from significant software-related web sites. The question of comprehensibility is important but secondary; if we could verify that the subject is [[WP:N|notable]], we would be open to rewriting the article so that it can be understood by a more general audience. -[[User:FisherQueen|FisherQueen]] ([[User talk:FisherQueen|Talk]]) 04:25, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
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::*'''Response''' Itsme01, I'm sure it is a ''credible'' system. I'm aware of many credible approaches, but the ones we are concerned with on Wikipedia (which is a community, not a company) are those that are [[WP:N|notable]], as attested to by [[WP:RS|independent third parties]]. Let me say that I was particularly struck that although the article attributes the origin of the system to Trinity Technologies, there is [http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Atrinitysystemstech.com+rasd&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a no] [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&c2coff=1&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=J9l&q=site%3Atrinitysystemstech.com+relationship.approach&btnG=Search mention] of RASD on that company's website. I know that the software consultancy I worked for had its own homegrown system (openly adapted from the [[Microsoft Solutions Framework]]) and made sure potential clients knew it. I can also understand that a methodology is developed in-house by professionals who take it forward as their intellectual property. In either case, the notability of these methods (or lack thereof) is established by writings about the system in trade magazines and on websites and forums. It isn't hard to find discussion of Agile or Extreme programming, for example, because their practitioners can't stop writing (or arguing) about them. In this case, as accomplished an achievement as creating a methodology may be, this one hasn't yet found an audience, so far as we can see, beyond internal client communications. --[[User:Dhartung|Dhartung]] | [[User talk:Dhartung|Talk]] 06:07, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' The article is chock-full of gems like "''During the RASD Plan Phase an RASD Enterprise Application Architecture (EAA) blueprint is created. This mission critical blueprint is is necessary to ensure enterprise application design to include global functionality, regional usability and localized flexibility''" It's like something Dilbert's Pointy-Haired Boss character would write. If this is something that deserves an article, it sure as heck deserves a better one than this. Do people somewhere actually write things like this and keep a straight face? Another excerpt: "''Enable the implementer to more succesfully consolidate and/or replace legacy systems in a more orderly and logical fashion. Mitigate bugs and defects throught the incremental and iterative development build and/or deploy process.'' It's like the world's dullest magnetic poetry. [[User:Starblind|Andrew Lenahan]] - <b><FONT COLOR="#FF0000">St</FONT><FONT COLOR="#FF5500">ar</FONT><FONT COLOR="#FF8000">bli</FONT><FONT COLOR="#FFC000">nd</FONT></b> 06:04, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
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