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I propose a template that can be used for users who place a {{[[template:hangon|hangon]]}} template below a CSD template but do not post a reason on the talk page. I'm not very good at wording such things (which is a good reason we have templates, lol), so if anyone else agrees that we could use this template and wants to create it, go for it. Thanks. --[[User:Pilotboi|Pilotboi]] <small>/ [[User_talk:Pilotboi|talk]] / [[Special:Contributions/Pilotboi|contribs]]</small> 09:33, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

== Defacing warnings - template warning against that ==

I've seen cases where users deface/remove vandalism warnings in their user talk and other editors come right in with a template that says "Don't do that." I've been looking for that template (the one flagging removal of warnings from one's own user talk) but I can't find it in [[Wikipedia:Template messages/User talk namespace]]. Did I just miss it or was I seeing something other than a template (macro, cut & paste, etc)?

--[[User:KNHaw|<font face="comic sans ms"><font color="SeaGreen"><i><b>KNHaw</b></i></font></font>]] <font color="SeaGreen">[[User talk:KNHaw|^(talk)]]</font> 19:44, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

:There's uw-tpv1, which warns the user not to edit other people's comments on talk pages, but I'm not aware of anything that specifically addresses editing templated warnings. [[User:Natalie Erin|Natalie]] 19:47, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

::Currently policy does not prohibit the removal of warnings form ones talk page as stated [[WP:USER#Removal_of_warnings|here]] but it is looked down upon. But if the deface their talk page (like with personal attacks, etc.) then it should be treated as vandalism. --[[User:Hdt83|_{<font color="336611" ><b>Hdt83</b></font>}]] [[User talk:Hdt83|_{<font color="blue" face="Arial"><b>Chat</b></font>}]] 19:53, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

:::Well, the specific case most recently was someone corrupting the warning (i.e. substituting "good" for "vandalism" and other such nonsense). That would seem to call for a vandalism warning as [[User:Hdt83|Hdt83]] says. The earlier incidents I saw of just blanking a page (if showing bad faith) seems like [[User:Natalie Erin|Natalie]]'s suggestion of uw-tpv1 would be in order.

:::Would a template specifically for this seem to be useful? I only really see it once a month or so, but it's not like I'm a really active vandal patroller. --[[User:KNHaw|<font face="comic sans ms"><font color="SeaGreen"><i><b>KNHaw</b></i></font></font>]] <font color="SeaGreen">[[User talk:KNHaw|^(talk)]]</font> 19:59, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

::::I don't think a specific template is necessary, since tpv1 really does cover this action. In general, editing other users comments so that it looks like they said something they did is a bad thing, whether their comment was a vandalism warning or a welcome. [[User:Natalie Erin|Natalie]] 20:08, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

:::::What?! Since when was this changed? I was always under the impression that [[WP:USER]] was to the contrary. I'm sure I remember using templates like [[User:KNHaw|KNHaw]] is referring to. --'''[[User:Reaper_X|<font color="#000000"> Reaper</font>]] [[User talk:Reaper_X|<font color="#ff0000"> X</font>]]''' 17:42, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

*There used to be, but we got rid of them because overzealous vandal fighters started revert warring over user talk pages, claiming that the warnings they placed there should remain as a permanent record. In short they were generating more heat than light. [[User_talk:Radiant!|<b><font color="#0000DD">&gt;<font color="#0066FF">R<font color="#0099FF">a<font color="#00CCFF">d<font color="#00EEFF">i</font>a</font>n</font>t</font>&lt;</font></b>]] 09:21, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

== Proposing alterations? ==

Love the templates; use them often. :) I'm wondering if there's a process in place for proposing alterations to them. My concern is with <nowiki>{{Template:Uw-delete1}}</nowiki>. I believe that it would more properly show an assumption of good faith simply by changing "Please be more careful when editing pages" to "Please be careful when editing pages." The former, to me, seems a bit more chastising than it needs to be, since sometimes editors have intended to remove the content but failed to communicate why. I often wind up manually revising that one and have not yet learned to make templates of my own. :) --[[User:Moonriddengirl|Moonriddengirl]] 13:08, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

:This is a good place to propose changes - or you can be [[WP:BOLD|bold]] if it's relatively minor. I think your suggestion is a good one, so I've gone ahead and made the change.--<span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size:11pt">[[User:Kubigula|Kubigula]] ''([[User talk:Kubigula|talk]])''</span> 17:03, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

::Thanks. :) --[[User:Moonriddengirl|Moonriddengirl]] 17:06, 13 August 2007 (UTC)