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::That seems like a helpful idea to me. Hopefully the misuse of edit summaries can be limited via a simple notification template, but i'm a wee bit skeptical. --[[User:Rocksanddirt|Rocksanddirt]] 18:03, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
:::If the user continues the behavior, one can just switch to the generic vandalism or npa warnings, since the user has already been warned about what is specifically wrong. [[User:Natalie Erin|Natalie]] 20:47, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
== uw-v1, reword a bit? ==
I felt a bit unnatural giving out uw-v1 because of "we invite ... our encyclopedia", since I don't consider Wikipedia belonging to me, at least no more than to others who want to edit constructively. :) How about: "Welcome to Wikipedia. Although Wikipedia invites everyone to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, ..." Let me know what you think please. Thank you. :) [[User:Rhanyeia|<font color="#008899">Rhanyeia</font>]] 14:58, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
:Collectively, we are Wikipedia. If it said, "I invite...", then I agree that it would be awkward. As it is, I don't have any issue with individual editors speaking on behalf of the Wikipedia community in cases of clear vandalism.--<span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size:11pt">[[User:Kubigula|Kubigula]] ''([[User talk:Kubigula|talk]])''</span> 16:03, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
::Thank you for commenting! I guess I felt that if I say "we" it includes "I" too, and unnatural to invite if other constructive editors already have the same possibility to edit than I. How about: "Welcome to Wikipedia! Although we welcome everyone to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, ..." Any opinions? :) Best regards [[User:Rhanyeia|<font color="#008899">Rhanyeia</font>]] 16:43, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
:::I see your point. How about if we said, ""Welcome to Wikipedia! Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia..."?--<span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size:11pt">[[User:Kubigula|Kubigula]] ''([[User talk:Kubigula|talk]])''</span> 17:59, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
::::I think that would be good. :) I encountered this same message when [[User:ClueBot|ClueBot]] says it. It was "did not appear to be constructive" instead of "was not constructive", and I think that sounded good, giving a soft tone. Best regards [[User:Rhanyeia|<font color="#008899">Rhanyeia</font>]] 18:57, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
:OK - I will give it a little time before making the change to see if anyone else pipes in with a comment or objection.--<span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size:11pt">[[User:Kubigula|Kubigula]] ''([[User talk:Kubigula|talk]])''</span> 21:48, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
{{done}} - I've made the change to {{tl|uw-v1}} and the other level one templates that used similar language. I also changed "our encyclopedia" to "the encyclopedia" (or just Wikipedia), as the former seemed a bit exclusionary. As always, feel free to tweak again if you think it can be said better.--<span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size:11pt">[[User:Kubigula|Kubigula]] ''([[User talk:Kubigula|talk]])''</span> 03:41, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
:Thank you very much for your work! :) Could you still take a look at [[Template:Uw-mos1]] please? And none of the templates you modified was the one [[User:ClueBot|ClueBot]] used, do you know what the bots use? I found its messages [[User_talk:Palcoin#August 2007|here]]. Best regards [[User:Rhanyeia|<font color="#008899">Rhanyeia</font>]] 10:25, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
::I made the change to {{tl|uw-mos1}} - do you see some other issue with this template? As to your second point, bots use their own messaging scripts that are developed by the bot operators.--<span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size:11pt">[[User:Kubigula|Kubigula]] ''([[User talk:Kubigula|talk]])''</span> 16:52, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
:::Uw-v1 is very good now. :) With uw-mos1 you only forgot one word <strike>which is still there</strike>. :) Best regards [[User:Rhanyeia|<font color="#008899">Rhanyeia</font>]] 17:36, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
== Proposed new template: [[:template:uw-ani]] ==
Per discussion at [[Wikipedia talk:Administrators' noticeboard]], [[User:Anonymous Dissident]] created (with some modifications by me) {{tl|uw-ani}} as a non bitey way to warn users that their post at [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents]] was at the wrong forum. Although it has not been used, in retrospect we probably should have discussed that here first. But if anyone cares to comment on either the utility of the template or suggest (or make improvements) to the template, it would be appreciated. Regards, [[User:Flyguy649|Flyguy649]] [[User talk:Flyguy649|<sup>talk]]</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Flyguy649|<sub>contribs]]</sub> 04:11, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
:It's not a bad idea, though I do have two issues/concerns. First, I'm not sure it's really needed. If someone posts on AN/I and it's clearly the wrong place, someone else will almost always point that out. If it's being pointed out on the thread, it seems unnecessary to point it out again on the poster's talk page. Second, we have lots of forums where someone might post a message that actually belongs elsewhere. We already have {{tl|uw-notaiv}} and {{tl|uw-uaa}}, and I don't know that we want to clutter UTM with a separate template for every possible misposting. So, if we do go forward with this template, I suggest making it a bit more generic to cover various possible mispostings. However, I lean towards thinking this is an individual message rather than template situation.--<span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size:11pt">[[User:Kubigula|Kubigula]] ''([[User talk:Kubigula|talk]])''</span> 21:42, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
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