Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Several Monty Python sketches: Difference between revisions

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'''KEEP ALL''' - While its true that these Monty Python skits can not be absolutely defined as notable, I would argue that was actually the nature of Monty Python. Some of the funniest bits of that show were not the sketches which are commonly known, such as [[Spam (Monty Python)|Spam]], but really the segue pieces. I am therefore requesting removal of the deletion notice on the grounds that it is arbitrary, and that Wikipedia provides an excellent repository for showcasing Monty Python skits. There are after all 100s of Monty Python Skits and only a handful that have been made into articles in Wikipedia. I could also propose merging all proposed deleted articles into one related article to save some fine contributions from the wiki community. Thank You.--[[User:10stone5|10stone5]] 20:43, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

*:*The threshold requirement is [[WP:N|notability]], not how funny they are. [[User:BigHaz|BigHaz]] - [[User_talk:BigHaz|Schreit mich an]] 00:51, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' all. I love the Fliegender Zirkus as much as the next geek, but this is not Pythonpedia. I was prepared to say that these should be kept, but I was thinking of things like the Spam sketch or the Parrot Sketch. [[User:DragonflySixtyseven|DS]] 21:06, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

*'''Delete and Merge''' into [[List of Monty Python's Flying Circus episodes]]. Fancruft. Unencyclopedic. We don't need, for instance, a list of all the composers mentioned in the [[Decomposing Composers]] sketch. Summarize each and include in the list. For a model of that, see Series 3, Episode 7 in the list, where a skit is described. I don't think redirecting is worthwhile. [[User:Noroton|Noroton]] 21:14, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

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*'''Comment'''. The theory on notability of [[Anne Elk's Theory on Brontosauruses]]. That is the theory, it is mine, and it belongs to me and I own it, and what it is too. :) [[User:Pocopocopocopoco|Pocopocopocopoco]] 14:41, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

*'''Keep All''' These are all notable sketches to some degree or another, especially when considered as a whole. On individual basis, i could see deleting one or two of them as non-notable, but as a block, i'm sorry, several are important cultural and historical events that reveal quite a bit about other things in society. It might be interesting to consider the recent actions on another monty python sketch that was not added in here, which is the football sketch which was recently kept. Did these prods happen at the same time? or after. I suspect the same time. Monty Python's work is notable, some of it is more notable than others. --[[User:Buridan|Buridan]] 17:44, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

:*It is very easy to state that something has some sort of sulturalcultural significance. It is quite another to back up that claim with [[WP:RS|reliable sources]]. You're admitting here that at least some of this material does not meet Wikipedia notability guidelines yet you're arguing to keep it anyway. [[WP:ILIKEIT]] is not a valid argument for keeping. The fact that the football sketch article was (wrongly IMHO) kept has no bearing on whether any of these articles should be kept, because [[WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS]] is not a valid reason for keeping. However, if you want to make the argument, then consider that for every AFDed MP sketch article that's been kept several have been deleted, including "Blackmail" ([[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Blackmail (Monty Python)|deleted]]), "Albatross" ([[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Albatross (Monty Python)|deleted]]), "Court Scene with Cardinal Richelieu," "Court Charades" and "Dennis Moore" (all [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Court Scene with Cardinal Richelieu|deleted]]), "Erotic film" ([[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Erotic film (Monty Python skit)|deleted]]), "Conquistador Coffee Campaign" ([[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Conquistador Coffee Campaign|deleted]]), "Johann Gambolputty" ([[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Johann Gambolputty|deleted]]), "Mr. Hilter and the Minehead by-election" ([[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mr. Hilter and the Minehead by-election|deleted)]], "Medical Love Song" ([[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Medical Love Song|deleted]]), "Silly Job Interview ([[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Silly Job Interview|deleted]]) and "Restaurant Abuse/Cannibalism" ([[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Restaurant Abuse/Cannibalism|deleted]]) and many others that did not survive being prodded. [[User:Otto4711|Otto4711]] 18:17, 23 September 2007 (UTC)