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::Blanking or defacing someone else's talk page is vandalism, but not your own. See the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject user warnings/FAQ#How about creating a user warning template...|WikiProject User Warnings FAQ]] for background. [[User:Twp|Tim Pierce]] 05:45, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

== Two proposed templates ==

Based on several conversations here and at [[WT:UW]], I am proposing two templates for addition to the UTM page. First, a warning template for misuse of blocking or warning templates - proposed text available [[User:Oysterguitarist/Sandbox|here]]. Second, a warning template for inaccurate or inappropriate edit summaries - proposed text available [[Template:Wrongsummary1|here]]. They are both designed to be usable as level one/AGF warnings, though neither has the "welcome to Wikipedia" language - so they can be used after another message or warning.

I know there is some concern about template creep, or excessive numbers of warning templates, and I share that concern to a degree. However, there is a value in having specific templates available for situations where a more generic warning might not be sufficient to clarify the editing concern. I believe these templates would be useful additions to UTM, and there have been several requests for them.--<span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size:11pt">[[User:Kubigula|Kubigula]] ''([[User talk:Kubigula|talk]])''</span> 19:48, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

:I don't mind the idea of a template for edit summaries. However, I don't see the need for a template for improper warnings. If the warnings are used to vandalise, then use the uw-vandalism series on the user who falsely warned. If the warning was left in error, but in good faith, a friendly note works well. My 2 cents. [[User:Flyguy649|Flyguy649]] [[User talk:Flyguy649|^talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Flyguy649|_contribs]] 20:02, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

::I felt the same way initially, but there was a [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject user warnings#Misuse of warning templates notice|conversation]] on the uw talk page that ultimately swayed me to thinking the template could be useful.--<span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size:11pt">[[User:Kubigula|Kubigula]] ''([[User talk:Kubigula|talk]])''</span> 23:08, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

:::I believe that the template for edit summaries should include "deceptive" somewhere in there. Some vandals learn to put "rv" or "spelling" in their ES to avoid suspicion. '''''[[User:Bibliomaniac15|<font color="black">bibliomaniac</font>]][[User talk:Bibliomaniac15|<font color="red">1</font><font color="blue">5</font>]]''''' <small>[[Special:Contributions/Bibliomaniac15|Two years of trouble and general madness]]</small> 21:42, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

::::I understand. However, if you include the word "deceptive", the template's not really useable as a level one AGF warning. My own feeling is that it's worth having as a single use template, with follow-up by the regular vandalism warnings - we've made it clear to the vandal that we are on to his or her trick.--<span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size:11pt">[[User:Kubigula|Kubigula]] ''([[User talk:Kubigula|talk]])''</span> 03:17, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

:::::There is also discussion about inappropriate edit summaries [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_user_warnings/Archive_1#Inappropriate_edit_Summaries here]. [[User:Hydrogen Iodide|Hydrogen Iodide]] 21:45, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

{{done}}. {{tl|uw-wrongsummary}} and {{tl|uw-tempabuse}} have been added to UTM. The names are a bit long, so we may need shortcuts.--<span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size:11pt">[[User:Kubigula|Kubigula]] ''([[User talk:Kubigula|talk]])''</span> 02:33, 17 September 2007 (UTC)