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::::Yes, thanks! --<font face="Futura, Helvetica, _sans">[[User:Escondites|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#ddd7a3;padding:0 3px 0 3px;background:#aba67e;cursor:se-resize;">escon<span style="color:#ffffff;">dites</span></span>]]</font> 19:47, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

::::It's the blur filter that does it; Wikimedia consistently misrenders blurred objects above and to the left of where they should appear, particularly in scaled-down images. [[User:Stannered|Stannered]] ([[User talk:Stannered|talk]]) 00:45, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

==Placeholder Images==

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Original:

<center><gallery>

Image:Replace this image male.svg|Male portrait

Image:Replace this image female.svg|Female portrait

Image:Replace this image1.svg|Neutral portrait

Image:Replace this imageb.svg|Building photo

</gallery></center>

First attempt:

<center><gallery>

Image:No male portrait.svg|Male portrait

Image:No female portrait.svg|Female portrait

Image:No portrait.svg|Neutral portrait

Image:No building photo.svg|Building photo

</gallery></center>

Addressing some concerns:

<center><gallery>

Image:No male portrait test.svg|Male portrait

Image:No female portrait test.svg|Female portrait

Image:No portrait gray test.svg|Neutral portrait

</gallery></center>

Another scheme:

<center><gallery>

Image:No free image man (en).svg

Image:No free image woman (en).svg

Image:No free image people (en).svg

</gallery></center>

Also see [[:Category:Wikipedia image placeholders]] and [[Image:Nocover-upload.png|150px]]

'''Article(s):''' All articles that have missing images - used by themselves, used in infoboxes, and other templates

'''Request:''' Most people liked the newer versions, but disliked certain aspects, especially the blue. You graphics people should be able to make them a lot better, though. See [[Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28proposals%29#Redesign_of_placeholder_images]] for previous discussion, including rationale. — [[User:Omegatron|Omegatron]] 13:46, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

'''Graphist opinion:'''

A few specifics of what you would like done would be really helpful at generating interest. —[[User:Cronholm144|Cronholm]]^{[[User talk:Cronholm144|144]]} 08:09, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

: Make them look better? There are many details discussed in the link to the Village Pump. — [[User:Omegatron|Omegatron]] 04:04, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

:'''Comment''': I think you'd be best keeping the discussion in one place, rather than on two different pages. Also, I really don't like the most recent images under the title "Another scheme". "Addressing some concerns:" looks better, the designs are more consistent and look smoother. --[[User:DTR|Dave the Rave (DTR)]]<small>[[User_talk:DTR|talk]]</small> 15:02, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

::I agree. They are less readable and less professional than even the original ones. I believe the best way to go would be a grayscale SVG theme for every category, including the "missing cover" images, in the style of "Addressing some concerns". [[User:Vladsinger | vlad<b>§</b>inger]] [[User talk:Vladsinger | ^tlk ]] 22:54, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

:::I've asked for some feedback on what should be done at [[Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28proposals%29#Redesign_of_placeholder_images]]. It would nice to have every placeholder image on Wikipedia in the same style (consistancey + standardisaton = good, at least, in my mind), but I realise this is probably impossible. --[[User:DTR|Dave the Rave (DTR)]]<small>[[User_talk:DTR|talk]]</small> 17:35, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

::::I'm not sure I like the inconsistancy between the man and woman in the last set - the man gets head and shoulders, the woman down to her waist, and her pose is a lot less formal. [[User:Adam Cuerden|Adam Cuerden]] ^{[[User_talk:Adam Cuerden|talk]]} 22:31, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

:::::Hmm. It also makes assumptions as to the generic woman's age that may, in all likelihood, not be true - imagine that cutout in, say, [[Queen Elizabeth II]]. For that matter, the American skyscraper skyline cutouts are probably not very appropriate for historical buildings, which could also cause cognitive dissonance [[User:Adam Cuerden|Adam Cuerden]] ^{[[User_talk:Adam Cuerden|talk]]} 22:35, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

What about [[:Image:No Photo Available.svg]] with the outline of a battleship in the background? (It's almost solely used for old Federal/DANFS ships, so you aren't likely to have much trouble there. [[User:68.39.174.238|68.39.174.238]] 02:06, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

I posted this on [[Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)|the Village pump]] on this topic: I'd like to see the request be small, italic, and bracketed. I came here from [[Wikipedia_talk:Avoid_self-references#Photo_Request|WP talk: Avoid self-references]]; my issue with the proposals is that they mix content and Wikipedia "meta-content" without enough clarity. Most of the meta-content in Wikipedia is italic, including disambiguations, citation needed, and stub notices. (The only meta-content not in italics are framed things like NPOV.) How about either (1) change "Click here to upload one" to smaller text in the top right that says <font color=darkblue><small><u>[<i>upload a picture</i>]</u></small></font> or (2) get rid of the silhouette and go with a frame that looks more like the [[Template:NPOV|NPOV]], perhaps with the text "''No free image exists. You can help Wikipedia by [[Wikipedia:Fromowner|providing one]].''"? Consider these two versions, which make an effort to be clear about what is meta-content:

#[[Image:No portrait-BFD-test.svg]]

#[[Image:Image-No portrait-text-BFD-test.svg]]

I think these are less like "...where he died in 1862. Have more information? Click <font color="darkblue"><u>here</u></font> to edit the article." and more like "...where he died in 1862.^{<font color="darkblue"><u>[<i>day of death needed</i>]</u></font>}" [[User:BenFrantzDale|—Ben FrantzDale]] 14:31, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

==Placeholder suggestion for CD==

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<center><gallery>Image:No_CD_Cover_Test.svg|attempt</gallery></center>

'''Article(s):''' see above.

'''Request:''' I had a go at making an image like [[:Image:Nocover-upload.png]] in the style of [[:Image:No male portrait.svg]] for a 'there is no CD picture' thing. I'd like to know what people think, and if anybody still cares about these placeholder images. --[[User:DTR|Dave the Rave (DTR)]]<small>[[User_talk:DTR|talk]]</small> 17:26, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Here's what it would look like in an article.

{{Infobox Single

| Name = Lorum Ipsum

| Cover = No CD Cover Test.svg

| Artist = Dolor

| from Album = placeholders = good

| B-side = Foo, Bar... and Baz

| Released = Never

| Format = CD Single

| Recorded = 2100

| Genre = Rave

| Length = 40:25

|Label=Wikipedia Graphics Lab

| Chart position =

* #1 UK

| Last single = wawawawawa

| This single = hellotheremynameisexample

| Next single = blahblahblah

}}

'''Opinion(s):'''

:Eh, nice, except that you're unlikely to be able to obtain a '''free''' image of a CD cover. Unless it's a [[free content|free CD]], I suppose... —[[User:Ilmari Karonen|Ilmari Karonen]] <small>([[User talk:Ilmari Karonen|talk]])</small> 17:40, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

::Any suggestions for wording? 'No Cover Available' is on the original image. --[[User:DTR|Dave the Rave (DTR)]]<small>[[User_talk:DTR|talk]]</small> 19:00, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

:Yeah, nearly all album covers are not free. Besides, what's wrong with the current image? - [[User:Rocket000|Rocket000]] 21:54, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

::I think the SVG version is indeed nicer. But yes, "no cover available" would be a better text. —[[User:Ilmari Karonen|Ilmari Karonen]] <small>([[User talk:Ilmari Karonen|talk]])</small> 00:08, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

::: Text is changed. --[[User:DTR|Dave the Rave (DTR)]]<small>[[User_talk:DTR|talk]]</small> 15:56, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

:That "Click here to upload" text... Will the user actually get to an appropriate upload page by clicking the image when it is correctly used? --[[User:Slashme|Slashme]] 09:18, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

::it would be possible yes.[[User:Genisock2|Genisock2]] 03:18, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

I like this one. Can you make versions of the others in a similar style? — [[User:Omegatron|Omegatron]] 04:08, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

:I'm more than happy to, any suggestions for specific placeholders? --[[User:DTR|Dave the Rave (DTR)]]<small>[[User_talk:DTR|talk]]</small> 12:38, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

::: I meant for all of them, including the people. :-) At least the wording and colors. — [[User:Omegatron|Omegatron]] 02:27, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

::::Errr.. I based the CD on the people themselves.... --[[User:DTR|Dave the Rave (DTR)]]<small>[[User_talk:DTR|talk]]</small> 18:35, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

::Above includes suggestions for Battleships and for buildings... --[[User:DTR|Dave the Rave (DTR)]]<small>[[User_talk:DTR|talk]]</small> 16:16, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

:::Going by [[:Image:Replace this image.svg]] towns, cameras and airports.[[User:Geni|Geni]] 12:46, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

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==Map service icons==

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<center><gallery>

Image:Gnome-fs-regular.png|[[Image:Gnome-fs-regular.png|20px|Map]] Map<br />'''(to be improved)'''

Image:Gnome-globe.png|[[Image:Gnome-globe.png|20px|Satellite]] Satellite<br />[[Image:Gartoon-Galeon.png|20px]]

Image:Gnome-html.png|[[Image:Gnome-html.png|20px|Hybrid]] Hybrid<br />(?)

Image:Hybrid Icon.svg|[[Image:Hybrid Icon.svg|20px|Hybrid]] Hybrid Attempt

Image:Mapaccess1.png|[[Image:Mapaccess1.png|20px|Satellite]] Blacklemon67's Satellite idea

Image:Mapaccess2.png|[[Image:Mapaccess2.png|20px|Map]] Blacklemon67's Map idea

Image:Mapaccess3.png|[[Image:Mapaccess3.png|20px|Hybrid]] Blacklemon67's Hybrid idea

Image:Mapaccess1.svg|[[Image:Mapaccess1.svg|20px|Map]] Blacklemon67 - SVG Map

Image:Mapaccess2.svg|[[Image:Mapaccess2.svg|20px|Satellite]] Blacklemon67 - SVG Satellite

Image:Mapaccess3.svg|[[Image:Mapaccess3.svg|20px|Hybrid]] Blacklemon67 - SVG Hybrid

Image:Gnome-fs-map.svg|[[Image:Gnome-fs-map.svg|20px|Map]] Combined Gnome regular and Blacklemon67 map

</gallery></center>

'''Article(s):''' [[Template:GeoTemplate]] / [[Template:GeoTemplate/sandbox]] / [[Template:GeoTemplate/sandbox/main.css]]

'''Request:''' There's been some work recently to improve the coordinate service list Wikipedia links to, and one of the proposals uses icons to signify the type of service (see [http://tools.wikimedia.de/~dispenser/maps.php?params=51_30_20_N_0_4_32_W#Templated_table_with_icons example]). They're perhaps understandable-ish in the proposed context, but at least the map icon needs improvement. Could someone draw or place something on it so that it looks like a map, while being different enough from the satellite icon but still keeping the same style? The hybrid one might need modification accordingly. --[[User:Para|Para]] 14:59, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

:'''Suggestion:''' A North Arrow on the map icon maybe? --[[User:DTR|Dave the Rave (DTR)]]<small>[[User_talk:DTR|talk]]</small> 17:54, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

'''Graphist opinion:'''

I had a '''quick''' go at the hybrid because I'm going on holiday for 5 days from tomorrow. Oh and for anyone who wants to continue this, the SVG's of this theme are available [http://art.gnome.org/download/themes/icon/1001/ICON-Gartoon.tar.gz here] (And the palette for the theme is included in it, might be useful) . <span style="color:blue;font-weight:bold;font-family: Monotype Corsiva;"> > [[User:Rugby471|Rugby471]] ^{[[User_talk:Rugby471|talk]]}</span> <span style="font-size: 17pt;">&#9876;</span> 18:00, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

What about using this for the satellite: [[Image:Gartoon-Galeon.png|20px]]

[[User:Rocket000|Rocket000]] 05:14, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

:Looks good. The map icon is still missing though. My idea for the hybrid was to simply put the map and satellite icons together, but we'd need a descriptive map icon first. --[[User:Para|Para]] 19:50, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

::The map could have lines to show roads...

Blacklemon67: Why so much perspective distortion? I think it makes it harder to recognize. And perhaps the white street lines on the hybrid should be thicker so there' more visual difference to the sattelite icon. -- [[User:Ddxc|Ddxc]] 11:39, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

::Ok, made a new scheme in inkscape, so they're svg-s. I hope this one works!

:::The second set is better and they're fine in thumbnail size, but in icon size they look so much alike. I combined the blank icon with Blacklemon67's map, but it still looks a bit pale. I guess the Gartoon style of the first icons is to use strong lines and colours? May be difficult to make them different enough, if at some points someone feels an icon for [[topographic map]]s is necessary. --[[User:Para|Para]] ([[User talk:Para|talk]]) 16:15, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

::::Ok, we'll use that. The hybrid could be the planet right next to the map.

==Carletoncollegeseal==

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<center><gallery>Image:NonFreeImageRemoved.svg|160 px wide

</gallery></center>

'''Article(s):[[Carleton College]]'''

'''Request: '''Please create an SVG version of this file. -- [[User:Kushal_one|'''Kushal''']]^{[[User_talk:Kushal_one|<small>t</small>]]} 15:47, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

'''Graphist opinion:'''

I don't think it needs to be, it is already at a fairly high res and good enough quality. <span style="color:blue;font-weight:bold;font-family: Monotype Corsiva;"> > [[User:Rugby471|Rugby471]] ^{[[User_talk:Rugby471|talk]]}</span> <span style="font-size: 17pt;">&#9876;</span> 17:35, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

:The fair use nazis would probably delete an SVG. ¦ [[User:Reisio|Reisio]] ([[User talk:Reisio|talk]]) 07:23, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

:i need to know what the tiny text in the books say --[[Special:Contributions/72.89.193.84|72.89.193.84]] ([[User talk:72.89.193.84|talk]]) 15:54, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

:The floating book says '''AI AGIAI GRAFAI'''; the bottom book says '''TO KALON KAI TO AGATHON'''. this is taken from [http://apps.carleton.edu/curricular/clas/seal/ Carleton College's Seal webpage] --[[User:Ordoon|Ordoon]] ([[User talk:Ordoon|talk]]) 21:49, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

=="Ref" button on edit toolbar==

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<center>

[[Image:Button ref.png]]

[[Image:Button references.png]]

[[Image:Button references2.png]]

[[Image:Button references alt.png]]

[[Image:Button reflink.png]]

[[Image:Button refs.png]]

</center>

'''Article(s):''' [[commons:Mediawiki edit toolbar|edit toolbar]] (not an article, part of site interface)

'''Request:''' We have recently added a button for producing "ref" tags to the edit toolbar — see [[Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Put button for "ref" tags in edit window toolbar]]. There were several icons already available for this purpose (see above), and the person who implemented it used the button on the second-to-right. However, it might be better to have a more intuitive icon, whose purpose would be more obvious to newbies. Any ideas on design? Thanks.-- [[User:Pharos|Pharos]] ([[User talk:Pharos|talk]]) 21:29, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

:Is the request possible? I can't imaging a graphic that is universally obvious to everyone as meaning "reference" the way, say, the "''I''" is obviously italics. Also, note that the toolbar icons have tooltips, so it's not a total loss. [[Special:Contributions/68.39.174.238|68.39.174.238]] ([[User talk:68.39.174.238|talk]]) 20:05, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

'''Graphist opinion:'''

You could depict a footnote, the result of a ref, with the number standing out: '…ere<sup style="color: red;">2</sup>.' ¦ [[User:Reisio|Reisio]] ([[User talk:Reisio|talk]]) 07:28, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

To avoid the button looking like a superscript button, have the text be something like "ref<sup style="color: blue">2</sup>" --[[User:Bsayusd|<font color="#6666aa"><b>Bsay</b></font><b><font color="#ad0000">USD</font></b>]] [[User_Talk:Bsayusd|<font color="#6666aa">[Talk]</font>]]π[[Special:Contributions/Bsayusd|<font color="#6666aa">[contribs]</font>]] 21:12, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

==Wikimedia-servers==

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<center><gallery>

Image:Wikimedia-servers-2006-05-09.svg

</gallery></center>

'''Article(s):'''http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_servers

'''Request:''' We should have each year a new version which is uptodate. Thanks. -- [[User:Kolossos|Kolossos]] ([[User talk:Kolossos|talk]]) 19:16, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

:At the very least, can some of the more egregious errors be corrected? Didn't the Korean svrs get trashed a few years ago? [[Special:Contributions/68.39.174.238|68.39.174.238]] ([[User talk:68.39.174.238|talk]]) 20:03, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

'''Graphist opinion:''' This would probably a fairly easy project if some one would clearly state the changes that are needed. 1. What needs to be removed. 2. What needs to be added. [[User:Sagredo|<b><font color ="#009933">Sagredo</font></b>]]^{[[User talk:Sagredo|<font color ="#8FD35D">&#8857;&#9791;&#9792;&#9793;&#9794;&#9795;&#9796;</font>]]} 18:17, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

:This infos are [https://wikitech.leuksman.com/view/All_servers here], but I can't make head or tail of some of the notations... Also, the heading at the top of the page does not make me feel like trusting it. [[Special:Contributions/68.39.174.238|68.39.174.238]] ([[User talk:68.39.174.238|talk]]) 22:24, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

::What would make this simple would be if Kolossus could supply us with a simple list of how many machines are each group in the diagram above, and if any of the links need to be changed. It helps if you just presume we're stupid, which, for me, some days. is pretty much the truth. [[User:Sagredo|<b><font color ="#009933">Sagredo</font></b>]]^{[[User talk:Sagredo|<font color ="#8FD35D">&#8857;&#9791;&#9792;&#9793;&#9794;&#9795;&#9796;</font>]]} 18:31, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

:::Unfortunately I'm not sure that that can be easily discovered; all the documentation seems to be opaque or splattered with warnings that its out of date and not trustworthy. [[Special:Contributions/68.39.174.238|68.39.174.238]] ([[User talk:68.39.174.238|talk]]) 13:06, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

I hate to say it, but this one looks trashworthy. This will probably end up being the 1st in out (nonexistent) page of "We wont do these..." since the data to create the graph appears to be not discoverable or non decipherable. [[Special:Contributions/68.39.174.238|68.39.174.238]] ([[User talk:68.39.174.238|talk]]) 19:08, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

==Overlap extension PCR - molecular biology technique==

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<center><gallery>

Image:OE-PCR.jpg

</gallery></center>

'''Article(s):''' [[OE-PCR]]

'''Request:''' This is an unusual request, in that I actually want to do the work myself. I created the above image a long time ago without the intention of using it on Wikipedia, but rather to explain to a single person what OE-PCR is. I'm trying to learn to create my own graphics (particularly interested in molecular biology illustrations) and this image should be a good, simple project to start with. The only things being displayed in the above image are arrows and DNA strands. Would Inkscape be my best option? I've seen nice work with [[Creature House Expression]]. I would like to show individual base-pairs so I can emphasise the mis-matches and ideally, I'll be able to tweak the proximity of the strands, as if they were paths in Inkscape.

I would like my base-pairs to look like these:

[[Image:DNA polymerase.svg|thumb|left]] [[Image:Ligation.svg|thumb|right]]

I would like the base-pairs to have the letter sequence inside each base as in the first example.

--[[User:Seans Potato Business|Seans]] '''[[User talk:Seans Potato Business|Potato Business]]''' 03:17, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

'''Graphist opinion:'''

As far as software goes, Inkscape is what's usually used for wikipedia, probably because it's free and uses SVG as its native format, so you don't have to convert any of the files. AFAIK, creature house isn't free and has the same kind of features so unless you've already got a copy you're probably better off going for inkscape. [[User:Time3000|Time3000]] ([[User talk:Time3000|talk]]) 17:05, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

# Welcome! I'm sure we'll be able to sucker you into joining the graphics lab in short order ;-)

# If you work in inkscape, you'll get very good support from the other Graphics Lab members, as many of them use it.

# Go ahead, make your diagram, and upload it. Then ask for suggestions and improvements; I'm sure you'll get lots of help and advice (some of it from friendly people, even.) If you remind people to explain their processes, you can learn a lot very quickly.

--[[User:Slashme|Slashme]] ([[User talk:Slashme|talk]]) 14:07, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Oh, by the way, you'll be drawing arrows, so let me fill you in on the first inkscape vs wikipedia gotcha that you will hit: The arrowheads that inkscape makes are not supported in wikipedia, so you have to convert your arrowheads to paths. Also, I've found that saving a file as "plain svg" helps not only to make the file smaller, but generates output that is more likely to be compatible. --[[User:Slashme|Slashme]] ([[User talk:Slashme|talk]]) 14:11, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

:Thanks for the nice replies :)

::Slashme failed to mention that the nicest people on Wikipedia are on this page. He's one of them. [[User:Sagredo|<b><font color ="#009933">Sagredo</font></b>]]^{[[User talk:Sagredo|<font color ="#8FD35D">&#8857;&#9791;&#9792;&#9793;&#9794;&#9795;&#9796;</font>]]} 05:28, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

:::<nowiki>*blush*</nowiki> --[[User:Slashme|Slashme]] ([[User talk:Slashme|talk]]) 08:50, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

:Is there some way that I can link objects to a path so that I can change the path and have the objects follow it? I've made an SVG to demonstrate what I mean (in this example, I had to move the objects manually to match the path). This would be a very tedious method for my actual intention which is to be able to bend the DNA strands around (in the SVGs above, all the components are completely unconnected). --[[User:Seans Potato Business|Seans]] '''[[User talk:Seans Potato Business|Potato Business]]''' 20:32, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

http://www.petaimg.com/uploads/1198962735.svg

:: As far as I know, there's no way to do exactly that for objects - you can do it for text with Text -> Put on Path but that's probably not very helpful. The next closest things I can think of are the "Align and Distribute" and "Grid Arrange" options at the bottom of the Object menu. Not sure if that's any help, but let me know if you do find what you were looking for. [[User:Time3000|Time3000]] ([[User talk:Time3000|talk]]) 18:13, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

:::I think it's [https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/168787 something we might get in 0.46] - they're calling them "markers"? Don't know if it'd actually be of any use for what I'm trying to do. When is 0.46 due? --[[User:Seans Potato Business|Seans]] '''[[User talk:Seans Potato Business|Potato Business]]''' 22:25, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

::::[http://tavmjong.free.fr/INKSCAPE/MANUAL/html/Effects-GenerateFromPath.html#Effects-PatternAlongPath Aligning objects along a Bezier curve] is a sort of work around but changing the path wont change the flow of the pattern based up on it. --[[User:Seans Potato Business|Seans]] '''[[User talk:Seans Potato Business|Potato Business]]''' 02:05, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Actually I think this is done, as it was a request for information rather than a request for an image. If we can Sean back to his Potato Business to mark it done. [[User:Sagredo|<b><font color ="#009933">Sagredo</font></b>]]^{[[User talk:Sagredo|<font color ="#8FD35D">&#8857;&#9791;&#9792;&#9793;&#9794;&#9795;&#9796;</font>]]} 01:21, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

==Poliomyelitis map==

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<center><gallery>

Image:Polio_worldwide_2005.JPG

Image:Polio worldwide 2005.png|PNG version

Image:Polio worldwide 2005.svg|Massive SVG

</gallery></center>

'''Article(s):''' [[Poliomyelitis_eradication]]

'''Request:''' i think jpg is not the best format for a map. -- → '''<font color= "#F00">[[Utente:Pepper|Pepper]]</font>''' / <small><font color="#02F">[[Discussioni_utente:Pepper|?]]</font></small> 18:33, 6 January 2008 (UTC) (Note, actual user [[User:PepperIT]])

'''Graphist opinion:''' I personally think an SVG version of this map would be much too large (over 1.5 MB), but I've uploaded one anyway. From the vector version (quite easy to make from [[:Image:BlankMap-World6, compact.svg]]), I've also generated a PNG, which I recommend be used in the article. I also took the liberty of updating the map with data from the [http://www.polioeradication.org/content/general/casecount.pdf Global Polio Eradication Initiative], since the original JPG didn't mention a source; the map should now match the table over at [[Poliomyelitis eradication]]—or the table needs to be updated :) Best, [[User:Fvasconcellos|Fvasconcellos]]<small>&nbsp;([[User talk:Fvasconcellos|t]]·[[Special:Contributions/Fvasconcellos|c]])</small> 23:38, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

This appears to be done, the png is up at the article. [[Special:Contributions/71.221.13.130|71.221.13.130]] ([[User talk:71.221.13.130|talk]]) 06:50, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

:Someone asked the original requester to check and see if it is done correctly; we'll see what they say. [[Special:Contributions/68.39.174.238|68.39.174.238]] ([[User talk:68.39.174.238|talk]]) 21:58, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

==Life Expectancy Graph from WRI data==

{{done}}

<center><gallery>

Image:Life expectancy 1950-2005.png| {{ifdc|1=Image:Life expectancy 1950-2005.png|log=2008 February 10}}

Image:Life expectancy 1950-2005.svg

Image:Life expectancy 1950-2005 version2.svg

</gallery></center>

'''Article(s):'''

*[[Life expectancy]]

*[[Poverty]]

*[[AIDS pandemic]]

*[[Measuring poverty]]

'''Request:''' Is currently a PNG, lines are heavily aliased. Could someone heavily versed in gnuplot or similar make this into an SVG, with the latest data and with nice pretty lines and without Times New Roman? :D Thanks. —[[User:Vanderdecken|Vanderdecken]]∴ '''[[User talk:Vanderdecken|∫]][[Special:Emailuser/Vanderdecken|ξ]][[Special:Contributions/Vanderdecken|φ]]''' 10:00, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

'''Graphist opinion:''' I can do this quite easily: this afternoon when I get home I'll check whether the request is still open, and if no-one has beat me to it, I'll sort it out. --[[User:Slashme|Slashme]] ([[User talk:Slashme|talk]]) 10:13, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Hmm, had to replace this request as it got deleted by accident some time today. I'll have a look at it in a few hours. --[[User:Slashme|Slashme]] ([[User talk:Slashme|talk]]) 18:48, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

OK, due to power brownouts, an early morning tomorrow and a wife who insists that we go to bed :-| I am only uploading an incomplete job. The source data and gnuplot script are in the svg file at the end. --[[User:Slashme|Slashme]] ([[User talk:Slashme|talk]]) 20:34, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

I have now removed the titles from the graph itself to make it easier to re-use the chart on other language articles, and put it into the image description page in a form that can be cut and pasted into a caption. I have also corrected the x-axis numbers (I had them as single years to make the plotting easier, but now they are ranges.) Let me know what you would still like to see. --[[User:Slashme|Slashme]] ([[User talk:Slashme|talk]]) 06:40, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

:Massive improvement. Unless it's against some guideline or other, could we have the y scale going up to 90 but only starting at 20 or 30? The actual data seems to be squashed up at the top which is a bit of a waste of vectorised space. One problem - if I zoom into the graph using IE (god forbid I should have to touch that program, but in the interests of compatibility...) the text becomes pixelated as if it were a bitmap - is there an explanation for this? —[[User:Vanderdecken|Vanderdecken]]∴ '''[[User talk:Vanderdecken|∫]][[Special:Emailuser/Vanderdecken|ξ]][[Special:Contributions/Vanderdecken|φ]]''' 18:37, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

::Complete?↔[[User:Nmajdan|<font style="font:bold 11px Verdana,sans-serif;">NMajdan</font>]]&bull;[[User talk:Nmajdan|<font style="font:9px Verdana,sans-serif; color:#000;">talk</font>]] 14:26, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

:::It's not like Slashme to leave something undone for so long. (Hope he's Ok. - probably just ''too tired'' after those "brownouts!") I'm a poor stand in for him on this, but I think this is what you want. On [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Life_expectancy_1950-2005_version2.svg this page] it is rendered into a png by Wiki, and you might see pixels. You don't actually get the svg until [http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/25/Life_expectancy_1950-2005_version2.svg here] I increased the svg document size, that should help. [[User:Sagredo|<b><font color ="#009933">Sagredo</font></b>]]^{[[User talk:Sagredo|<font color ="#8FD35D">&#8857;&#9791;&#9792;&#9793;&#9794;&#9795;&#9796;</font>]]} 05:22, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

::::My pixelation comment was about [http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c6/Life_expectancy_1950-2005.svg this version] - the text isn't smooth. —[[User:Vanderdecken|Vanderdecken]]∴ '''[[User talk:Vanderdecken|∫]][[Special:Emailuser/Vanderdecken|ξ]][[Special:Contributions/Vanderdecken|φ]]''' 11:03, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

:Sorry, guys, I guess I should put a "wikibreak" template on my user page: This weekend is the [http://www.sagoclubs.co.za/2008/01/14/2008-sa-open-and-african-oza/ South African Open Go Tournament] and next week I'm doing an M.Sc. defense talk. After that I should be more productive.

:As for this picture, it looks like "version 2" is just fine, so maybe we can save that one over the original SVG and mark this as done? --[[User:Slashme|Slashme]] ([[User talk:Slashme|talk]]) 07:48, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

::That's fine by me. It's your's to save, what I did was minimal. [[User:Sagredo|<b><font color ="#009933">Sagredo</font></b>]]^{[[User talk:Sagredo|<font color ="#8FD35D">&#8857;&#9791;&#9792;&#9793;&#9794;&#9795;&#9796;</font>]]} 04:48, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

:::Yup, that's good. Support [[:Image:Life expectancy 1950-2005 version2.svg|Life expectancy 1950-2005 version2.svg]] being the final version, deletion of the PNG. —[[User:Vanderdecken|Vanderdecken]]∴ '''[[User talk:Vanderdecken|∫]][[Special:Emailuser/Vanderdecken|ξ]][[Special:Contributions/Vanderdecken|φ]]''' 11:03, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

==Ukrainian SSR Map==

{{done|[[User:Sagredo|<b><font color ="#009933">Sagredo</font></b>]]^{[[User talk:Sagredo|<font color ="#8FD35D">&#8857;&#9791;&#9792;&#9793;&#9794;&#9795;&#9796;</font>]]} 04:45, 8 February 2008 (UTC)}}

:Is anyone willing to please look at this and offer their opinion? Is the request too difficult, or too time-consuming, or something else? Thank you in advance for your assistance. [[User:Bry9000|Bry9000]] ([[User talk:Bry9000|talk]]) 20:24, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

<center><gallery>

Image:Ukrainian_SSR_1940.jpg

Image:Ukrainian SSR 1940 edit.jpg

</gallery></center>

'''Article(s):[[Ukrainian_Soviet_Socialist_Republic]]'''

'''Request:''' Please remove or lighten the vertical band in the center of the page. I realize that this map should ideally be re-scanned; however, the original uploader can't be reached. Thank you. [[User:Bry9000|Bry9000]] ([[User talk:Bry9000|talk]]) 23:31, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

'''Graphist opinion:''' I'm not sure this is an improvement, and the more you do, the more it looks retouched. I tried it once before, and tend to think the obvious crease is better because the viewer recognises it as such. Sorry this isn't better, thanks for bringing it in. [[User:Sagredo|<b><font color ="#009933">Sagredo</font></b>]]^{[[User talk:Sagredo|<font color ="#8FD35D">&#8857;&#9791;&#9792;&#9793;&#9794;&#9795;&#9796;</font>]]} 22:39, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

:I've tried uploading the new image at Wikipedia Commons under "upload a new version," and I'm getting an error message: <I>"The file is corrupt or has an incorrect extension. Please check the file and upload again."</I> Does anyone know what's going on? Thank you. [[User:Bry9000|Bry9000]] ([[User talk:Bry9000|talk]]) 16:51, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

::Don't know why that is. But if you want to use it, I'll try a little more at cleaning it up and then (try) upload over the old image. [[User:Sagredo|<b><font color ="#009933">Sagredo</font></b>]]^{[[User talk:Sagredo|<font color ="#8FD35D">&#8857;&#9791;&#9792;&#9793;&#9794;&#9795;&#9796;</font>]]} 18:42, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

:::Yes, please do. Thank you; I appreciate your work on the image and your assistance with the re-upload. [[User:Bry9000|Bry9000]] ([[User talk:Bry9000|talk]]) 19:20, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

::::It's what we're here for. Thanks for bringing it in. [[User:Sagredo|<b><font color ="#009933">Sagredo</font></b>]]^{[[User talk:Sagredo|<font color ="#8FD35D">&#8857;&#9791;&#9792;&#9793;&#9794;&#9795;&#9796;</font>]]} 19:40, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

==World population==

{{Resolved|1=[[User:Kintetsubuffalo|Chris (クリス • フィッチ)]] ([[User talk:Kintetsubuffalo|talk]]) 01:36, 10 February 2008 (UTC)}}

<center><gallery>

Image:WorldPopulatoin.png

Image:WorldPopulation.png

</gallery></center>

'''Article(s):''' [[World population]]

'''Request:''' SVGify, make background white, spell new title correctly [[:Image:WorldPopulation.svg]], thanks! -- [[User:Kintetsubuffalo|Chris (クリス • フィッチ)]] ([[User talk:Kintetsubuffalo|talk]]) 23:01, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

'''Graphist opinion:''' Well, the image is easy enough, but damn, you need it spelled rihgt? [[User:Sagredo|<b><font color ="#009933">Sagredo</font></b>]]^{[[User talk:Sagredo|<font color ="#8FD35D">&#8857;&#9791;&#9792;&#9793;&#9794;&#9795;&#9796;</font>]]} 02:31, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

It was fairly easy to get a png with a white background from PS. I've not been able to get inkscape's tracer to do more than trace an exceptionally good black and white, and then it seems to have to be large. Others may very well be able to do more with it. Slashme and probably others can generate svg's of such things from raw data, making very nice and very accurate images. The other question is how long before this needs to be updated? [[User:Sagredo|<b><font color ="#009933">Sagredo</font></b>]]^{[[User talk:Sagredo|<font color ="#8FD35D">&#8857;&#9791;&#9792;&#9793;&#9794;&#9795;&#9796;</font>]]} 05:54, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

:I don't know that there's any rush, what you've done thus far is great! [[User:Kintetsubuffalo|Chris (クリス • フィッチ)]] ([[User talk:Kintetsubuffalo|talk]]) 06:09, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

::It would be possible to draw an svg over the top of this by hand, but it wouldn't gain much and might lose little accuracy. I think it should be marked as done. [[User:Sagredo|<b><font color ="#009933">Sagredo</font></b>]]^{[[User talk:Sagredo|<font color ="#8FD35D">&#8857;&#9791;&#9792;&#9793;&#9794;&#9795;&#9796;</font>]]} 02:19, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

== SVG help ==

{{Resolved|00:44, 10 February 2008 (UTC)}}

I hope I am asking this at the right place, if not can someone please redirect me?

I've created a page about [[Ralph Millard]], a plastic surgeon who pioneerd a procedure in repairing a [[cleft lip and palate#cleft lip|cleft lip]]. To illustrate the procedure I created two images:

<gallery>

image:Millardrepair1.svg|incisions

Image:Millardrepair2.svg|movement of the flaps

</gallery>

To compare, this is what it should look like:

<gallery>

image:Millardrepair1.gif|incisions

Image:Millardrepair2.gif|movement of the flaps

</gallery>

As you can see, the SVGs come out totally wrong. Is there anyone who can check what's going on? I've uploaded the image a few times with minor tweaks to no avail. [[User:Felsir|Felsir]] ([[User talk:Felsir|talk]]) 07:25, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

I think I know what's going on; I'll get back to you in a short while. --[[User:Slashme|Slashme]] ([[User talk:Slashme|talk]]) 09:49, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

:Sorted! The problem was that different programs interpret "undefined" fill in different ways. Inkscape and rsvg (the renderer used by Wikipedia) make it a solid black fill, which is why if you want no fill you must say "fill=none". --[[User:Slashme|Slashme]] ([[User talk:Slashme|talk]]) 09:54, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

::Thanks a lot! [[User:Felsir|Felsir]] ([[User talk:Felsir|talk]]) 14:35, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

== Governorates of Tunisia ==

{{resolved}}

<center><gallery>

Image:Governorates of Tunisia.svg|Base image, changed

Image:Governorates of Tunisia - Arabic.png|Arabic map

Image:Tunisia sidi bou said gov.jpg|Example of the images to be replaced; only one listed, since there are 20+ of them!

Image:Tunisia1.svg|Ultra-precise version

</gallery></center>

'''Articels:''' All the [[Governorates of Tunisia]]

'''Request:''' First, can the "11" in Governorate 11 be changed to use the same font as the rest of them; secondly, can you create 1 for each governorate (After the pattern of the one shown above) to replace the JPEG images there now? I don't think you need to implement the huge salt plain in the SVG. Thanx, [[Special:Contributions/68.39.174.238|68.39.174.238]] ([[User talk:68.39.174.238|talk]]) 02:13, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

'''Oppinion:'''There are already maps for each governorate (created by me 4 months ago *brag*) at [[:Category:Governorates of Tunisia]], even tough only the French wiki uses them AFAIK. I corrected the "11", and made other tiny changes. Resolved? BTW: I found out that the guys at the Arabic Wiki use a different numbering, shown here, probably it's the right one which should also be used on this map, I mean, it's their country after all. --<font face="Futura, Helvetica, _sans">[[User:Escondites|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#ddd7a3;padding:0 3px 0 3px;background:#aba67e;cursor:se-resize;">escon<span style="color:#ffffff;">dites</span></span>]]</font> 17:03, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

:I suspect you mean [[commons:Category:Governorates of Tunisia]] ;). Anyway, I like the SVGs there since they don't have numbers, which simplifies this immensely. Not to mention that I can't find any source that can back up either choice of #s. The English #s are obviously just alphabetical order, I have a sneaking suspicion that it's the same for the Arabic map. Unfortunately there are WAY too many non-vector images of the Governorates on Commons that should probably be suppressed in favor of the SVGs, or the SVGs and one set of rasters, but CheckUsage is down, so that can't be done except on eN, where I will do it now. [[Special:Contributions/68.39.174.238|68.39.174.238]] ([[User talk:68.39.174.238|talk]]) 02:08, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

All images replac'd on the Governorate pages, one question though, what's with the border difference between [[:Image:TN-14.svg]] and [[:Image:Tunisia medenine gov.jpg]]? I know they can't be exactly the same, but that appears large enough to be worth asking about. Thanx again, [[Special:Contributions/68.39.174.238|68.39.174.238]] ([[User talk:68.39.174.238|talk]]) 02:40, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

:Yes, I meant that category :-) But the thing that worries me is that these numbers are probably "official", like the numberings of the [[provinces of Algeria]] or the two-letter codes of [[US States]], so we probably have huge errors here at wiki... Honestly, I have no idea why "my" map is different. The real creator, who you should ask is [http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Jarke Jarke], but I think the raster uses more straight lines, and the vector is smooth, that's why there's a difference! --<font face="Futura, Helvetica, _sans">[[User:Escondites|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#ddd7a3;padding:0 3px 0 3px;background:#aba67e;cursor:se-resize;">escon<span style="color:#ffffff;">dites</span></span>]]</font> 17:20, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

::I don't mind the minor deviations, but there's a massive difference in the territory Mendenine province, which appears to gain a new block of land from Taoutonie. I don't know which is correct, but there's too much of a discrepancy to be overlooked. [[Special:Contributions/68.39.174.238|68.39.174.238]] ([[User talk:68.39.174.238|talk]]) 00:50, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

:::I'm gonna see a shapefile tomorrow, it must show which one is correct... --<font face="Futura, Helvetica, _sans">[[User:Escondites|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#ddd7a3;padding:0 3px 0 3px;background:#aba67e;cursor:se-resize;">escon<span style="color:#ffffff;">dites</span></span>]]</font> 18:06, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

::::The vector version is correct, here's another image that uses the same borders (more precisely) --<font face="Futura, Helvetica, _sans">[[User:Escondites|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#ddd7a3;padding:0 3px 0 3px;background:#aba67e;cursor:se-resize;">escon<span style="color:#ffffff;">dites</span></span>]]</font> 10:11, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

::::OK, so the SVG is correct and this can be resolved. I (or someone) needs to mark the JPGs on Commons as vva'd and/or superseded because of the border error. [[Special:Contributions/68.39.174.238|68.39.174.238]] ([[User talk:68.39.174.238|talk]]) 21:50, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

== Hillsboro, Oregon map ==

{{resolved}}

<center><gallery>

Image:Hillsboro Map.svg

</gallery></center>

'''Article(s):''' [[Hillsboro, Oregon]]

'''Request:''' Create a map to use for this city in an effort to move towards FA. I have yet to find a free use image that would show the outline of the city, major roads/streets, and show the neighborhoods. This [http://www.ci.hillsboro.or.us/Planning_Department/HTMLcompPlan/documents/hillssubarea.pdf PDF from the city] shows sort of what I had in mind, but would want less detail for the Wikipedia article. -- [[User:Aboutmovies|Aboutmovies]] ([[User talk:Aboutmovies|talk]]) 07:09, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

:*Great to hear. Thanks. [[User:Aboutmovies|Aboutmovies]] ([[User talk:Aboutmovies|talk]]) 23:57, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

::*Looks pretty good. Can you add a dark line around the entire city limits so that stands out more, remove the (text from within the parenthesis) under the neighborhood sections, add a title (maybe at the top), a label on the right central part that says to Beaverton with an arrow pointing to the east, and same thing for the west central saying Cornelius? Then, since the map I gave you is more than 10 years old, it is missing the new high school, Liberty, in the upper right-central part across Cornelius Pass Road from Lenox, about where that creek is. Optionally, would it be possible to add the state/US highway numbers to the three highways that have that designation [[:Image:OR 8.svg|Tualatin Valley Hwy]], [[:Image:OR 219.svg|Hillsboro Hwy]], and [[:Image:US 26.svg|Sunset Hwy]]. I just notice Hillsboro Hwy is not labeled, it is the north-south road closest to Popp Resivoir in the lower left corner. If you can make these changes/additions it would be great. If not that's OK. Thanks for your work. [[User:Aboutmovies|Aboutmovies]] ([[User talk:Aboutmovies|talk]]) 06:09, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

:::*New version uploaded. [[User:Jeff Dahl|Jeff Dahl]] ([[User talk:Jeff Dahl|Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Jeff Dahl|contribs]]) 07:59, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

::::*Looks great. Thank you so much. I even added it to the school district page since it has the schools too. [[User:Aboutmovies|Aboutmovies]] ([[User talk:Aboutmovies|talk]]) 21:32, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

'''Graphist opinion:''' How's this? [[User:Jeff Dahl|Jeff Dahl]] ([[User talk:Jeff Dahl|Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Jeff Dahl|contribs]]) 03:22, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

==King Rat==

{{Resolved|[[User:Kintetsubuffalo|Chris (クリス • フィッチ)]] ([[User talk:Kintetsubuffalo|talk]])19:28, 10 February 2008 (UTC)}}

<center><gallery>

Image:JamesClavell KingRat.jpg

Image:James Clavell King Rat.jpg|Edit {{ifdc|1=Image:James Clavell King Rat.jpg|log=2008 February 10}}

</gallery></center>

'''Article(s):''' [[King Rat (1962 novel)]]

'''Request:''' correct perspective for straight on, maybe using http://hugin.sourceforge.net/tutorials/perspective/en.shtml -- [[User:Kintetsubuffalo|Chris (クリス • フィッチ)]] ([[User talk:Kintetsubuffalo|talk]]) 00:57, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

'''Graphist opinion:'''

*Shotgun. Give me a few minutes. —[[User:Vanderdecken|Vanderdecken]]∴ '''[[User talk:Vanderdecken|∫]][[Special:Emailuser/Vanderdecken|ξ]][[Special:Contributions/Vanderdecken|φ]]''' 11:07, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

**The image is incredibly low resolution and very bad quality, I've done the best I can. You should definitely consider uploading a higher res one, or at least one that doesn't have so many JPG compression artifacts. —[[User:Vanderdecken|Vanderdecken]]∴ '''[[User talk:Vanderdecken|∫]][[Special:Emailuser/Vanderdecken|ξ]][[Special:Contributions/Vanderdecken|φ]]''' 11:15, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

:Thanks, that's just what I wanted! The original image is not mine, I will try and find a better one. Meanwhile, would you '''upload your version over the original, to preserve edit history? Thank you''' so much! [[User:Kintetsubuffalo|Chris (クリス • フィッチ)]] ([[User talk:Kintetsubuffalo|talk]]) 15:24, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

::Done. —[[User:Vanderdecken|Vanderdecken]]∴ '''[[User talk:Vanderdecken|∫]][[Special:Emailuser/Vanderdecken|ξ]][[Special:Contributions/Vanderdecken|φ]]''' 11:14, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

:Thank you thank you! [[User:Kintetsubuffalo|Chris (クリス • フィッチ)]] ([[User talk:Kintetsubuffalo|talk]]) 19:28, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

== Coptic text ==

{{Resolved|1=[[User:Kintetsubuffalo|Chris (クリス • フィッチ)]] ([[User talk:Kintetsubuffalo|talk]]) 08:02, 10 February 2008 (UTC)}}

<center><gallery>

Image:CopticLetters.png|Aggregate image to be SVG'd

Image:CopticLetters.svg|SVG

</gallery></center>

'''Articels:''' [[Coptic alphabet]] and others related to the alphabet and Copts

'''Request:''' SVGification without the dropshadow. Also note, there are individual images of each letter [[Coptic_alphabet#Alphabet_table|here]]. Could those be SVGified as well? Thanx. (Note, despite being taken up by Unicode, not very many systems appear able to display it, hence the individual images). [[Special:Contributions/68.39.174.238|68.39.174.238]] ([[User talk:68.39.174.238|talk]]) 20:53, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

'''Opinion:''' I'm running it through Vector Magic, and then I'll clean it up with inkscape. -- [[User:Ipankonin|I. Pankonin]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Ipankonin|t]]&middot;[[Special:Contributions/Ipankonin|c]]) 01:53, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

:I think I'll end up tracing them by hand. -- [[User:Ipankonin|I. Pankonin]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Ipankonin|t]]&middot;[[Special:Contributions/Ipankonin|c]]) 02:44, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

::It might help you to use {{tl|Unicode chart Cyrillic}} for base shapes [[User:Kintetsubuffalo|Chris (クリス • フィッチ)]] ([[User talk:Kintetsubuffalo|talk]]) 06:04, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

:::Too late, I'm done. I'll start uploading individual letters. -- [[User:Ipankonin|I. Pankonin]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Ipankonin|t]]&middot;[[Special:Contributions/Ipankonin|c]]) 08:28, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

::::I've uploaded the individual letters to [[commons:Category:Coptic script]]. -- [[User:Ipankonin|I. Pankonin]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Ipankonin|t]]&middot;[[Special:Contributions/Ipankonin|c]]) 10:42, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

:Those are great, where did you find all the variants? Now that I've seen the Commons category, could you also do these in svg? Yours are just way better.

<center><gallery>

Image:Copte double trait d unionb.png

Image:Copte kh r.png

Image:Copte r barre.png

Image:Copte soou.png

Image:Copte stauros.png

Image:Copte tsh s.png

Image:Copte x akhminique.png

</gallery></center>

:Thanks [[User:Kintetsubuffalo|Chris (クリス • フィッチ)]] ([[User talk:Kintetsubuffalo|talk]]) 17:38, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

O wow, you're the coolest thing ever, thanx dude (I'm satisfied, but since someone else has requested something in addition, I'll leave the {{tl|resolved}} tag for them). [[Special:Contributions/68.39.174.238|68.39.174.238]] ([[User talk:68.39.174.238|talk]]) 18:35, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

:Correction, sorry, but [[:Image:Coptic Eta-min.svg]] doesn't seem to want to display unless you view the image itself (IE. Out of wiki):

<center><gallery>

Image:Coptic Eta-min.svg|Is it just me? ~~~~

</gallery></center>

I tried re-saving it as plain svg, but it's always displayed for me. The variants are upper and lower case from the PNG image, but I made them the same size. I'm thinking maybe I shouldn't have. I'm glad you think they're better. It makes me think I didn't waste those hours. I'll do the others. -- [[User:Ipankonin|I. Pankonin]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Ipankonin|t]]&middot;[[Special:Contributions/Ipankonin|c]]) 00:04, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

[[Image:Coptic double-slash.svg|25px]][[Image:Coptic Khi Ro.svg|25px]][[Image:Coptic Ro-bar.svg|25px]][[Image:Coptic Sou.svg|25px]][[Image:Coptic Stauros.svg|25px]][[Image:Coptic Ou Semma.svg|25px]][[Image:Coptic Hori-bar.svg|25px]] How's this? -- [[User:Ipankonin|I. Pankonin]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Ipankonin|t]]&middot;[[Special:Contributions/Ipankonin|c]]) 06:29, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

:You have mad skills, thank you! Your Coptic Hori-bar.svg has much more depth than the original, nice flourish. My only thought is, your Coptic Sou.svg should be slightly deeper on the bottom leg, wider brush-stroke, however it's called... Thanks! [[User:Kintetsubuffalo|Chris (クリス • フィッチ)]] ([[User talk:Kintetsubuffalo|talk]]) 06:49, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

::I fixed Sou. I don't think I'll be doing another alphabet for a very long time ; | -- [[User:Ipankonin|I. Pankonin]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Ipankonin|t]]&middot;[[Special:Contributions/Ipankonin|c]]) 07:30, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

:[[Image:Coptic Tau-maj.svg|20px]] [[Image:Coptic Eta-min.svg|20px]] [[Image:Coptic Alpha-min.svg|20px]] [[Image:Coptic Ne-min.svg|20px]] [[Image:Coptic Kappa-min.svg|20px]] • [[Image:Coptic He-maj.svg|20px]] [[Image:Coptic Ou-min.svg|20px]] [[Image:Coptic Me-min.svg|20px]]! Done! :) [[User:Kintetsubuffalo|Chris (クリス • フィッチ)]] ([[User talk:Kintetsubuffalo|talk]]) 08:02, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

==Lock==

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'''Pages:''' [[User:Adnarim|Adnarim]] and Commons

'''Request:''' This may be a little selfish, but can someone make another lock and change the color of the lock background to <font color="#E75480">'''THIS COLOR'''</font> and <font color="#960018">'''THIS COLOR'''</font> for me, Commons, and people who like pink. :-P Cheers. [[User:Miranda|'''<font face="verdana"><font color="green">m</font><font color="#4CBB17">ir</font><font color="#ADFF2F">a</font><font color="#4CBB17">nd</font><font color="green">a</font></font>''']] 13:30, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

'''Graphist opinion:'''

*How is the edit I created? The colors are a very close approximation that I did by eye.-[[User:Andrew c|Andrew&nbsp;c]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Andrew c|^[talk]]] 16:02, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

:<s>Great I love the dark colored version. Can you do the light one as well? Thanks so much! [[User:Miranda|'''<font face="verdana"><font color="green">m</font><font color="#4CBB17">ir</font><font color="#ADFF2F">a</font><font color="#4CBB17">nd</font><font color="green">a</font></font>''']] 17:07, 10 February 2008 (UTC)</s>

::I think this will be great for now. Thank you so much! [[User:Miranda|'''<font face="verdana"><font color="green">m</font><font color="#4CBB17">ir</font><font color="#ADFF2F">a</font><font color="#4CBB17">nd</font><font color="green">a</font></font>''']] 17:23, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

==Union Station San Diego==

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'''Article(s):''' [[Union Station (San Diego)]]

'''Request:'''Can the crane in the background please be removed? -- <font face="Futura, Helvetica, _sans">[[User:Escondites|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#ddd7a3;padding:0 3px 0 3px;background:#aba67e;cursor:se-resize;">escon<span style="color:#ffffff;">dites</span></span>]]</font> 19:45, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

'''Graphist opinion:'''

:What Crane? [[User:Kintetsubuffalo|Chris (クリス • フィッチ)]] ([[User talk:Kintetsubuffalo|talk]]) 06:07, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

::I think he's talking about the one that Sagredo removed without telling anybody. -- [[User:Ipankonin|I. Pankonin]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Ipankonin|t]]&middot;[[Special:Contributions/Ipankonin|c]]) 07:14, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

:LOLOLOLOL! :) [[User:Kintetsubuffalo|Chris (クリス • フィッチ)]] ([[User talk:Kintetsubuffalo|talk]]) 01:25, 11 February 2008 (UTC)