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== 1 ==
* I'll risk an answer to my own question: the Portal template is used on 2,200,000 pages so it should be safe to put its Java incarnation in all Java-related articles, under the See also section. As for the navbox mechanism, it seems to be used extensively by some projects and not at all by others. I think the Java (Sun) navbox is a worthwhile addition to any Java-related article (more than the over-specialized JVM one), right before the Category tags. But I don't think putting any of these 3 templates in remaining categories is worthwile. The cumbersome job of putting the 2 tags, Portal and Java (Sun), in all Java-related articles should be done in combination with the tagging of unaccessed Java-related articles with {{tl|Compu-stub}}. Anyone with another opinion?...<br/>-- [[User:Alainr345|<span style="display:inline-block; position:relative; top:20px;"><font face="Times" color="#4590ff" size="2"><u><i> Alain R 3 4 5 </i></u><br/><font color="#ffb000"><sup>Techno-Wiki-Geek</sup></font></font></span>]] 02:00, 1 December 2009 (UTC)<br/><br/>
**In abstentia, I moved the resulting action [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Java/Things_you_can_do|here]] (AR)<br/><br/>
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* Again I'll do some loud thinking here about this second question of mine. Since I could not figure out a less convoluted way of finding existing Wikipedia content currently untagged for Java, I'll keep it at that. The first [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&redirs=1&search=Java+%22programming+language%22+platform+-incategory%3A%22Java+platform%22+-incategory%3A%22Java+programming+language%22+-incategory%3A%22Java+device+platform%22+-incategory%3A%22JVM+programming+language%22+-incategory%3AEclipse+-incategory%3A%22Java+enterprise+platform%22+-incategory%3A%22Java+virtual+machine%22+-incategory%3A%22Java+specification+requests%22+-incategory%3A%22Java+development+tools%22+-incategory%3A%22Java+platform+software%22+-incategory%3A%22Free+software+programmed+in+Java%22+-incategory%3A%22Java+libraries%22+-incategory%3A%22Articles+with+example+Java+code%22+-incategory%3A%22Java+APIs%22+-incategory%3A%22JavaServer+Faces%22+-incategory%3A%22Java+API+for+XML%22+-incategory%3A%22Java+Internet+Relay+Chat+clients%22+-incategory%3A%22Eclipse+technology%22+-incategory%3A%22Eclipse+software%22+-incategory%3A%22Java+applications%22+-incategory%3A%22Java+platform+games%22+-incategory%3ASodaplay&fulltext=Search&ns0=1&title=Special%3ASearch&advanced=1&fulltext=Advanced+search search] I'm referring to gives 935 articles, the second [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&redirs=1&search=Java+(%22programming+language%22+OR+platform)+-incategory%3A%22Java+platform%22+-incategory%3A%22Java+programming+language%22+-incategory%3A%22Java+device+platform%22+-incategory%3A%22JVM+programming+language%22+-incategory%3AEclipse+-incategory%3A%22Java+enterprise+platform%22+-incategory%3A%22Java+virtual+machine%22+-incategory%3A%22Java+specification+requests%22+-incategory%3A%22Java+development+tools%22+-incategory%3A%22Java+platform+software%22+-incategory%3A%22Free+software+programmed+in+Java%22+-incategory%3A%22Java+libraries%22+-incategory%3A%22Articles+with+example+Java+code%22+-incategory%3A%22Java+APIs%22+-incategory%3A%22JavaServer+Faces%22+-incategory%3A%22Java+API+for+XML%22+-incategory%3A%22Java+Internet+Relay+Chat+clients%22+-incategory%3A%22Eclipse+technology%22+-incategory%3A%22Eclipse+software%22+-incategory%3A%22Java+applications%22+-incategory%3A%22Java+platform+games%22+-incategory%3ASodaplay&fulltext=Search&ns0=1&title=Special%3ASearch&advanced=1&fulltext=Advanced+search search] is 3515 long; so I guess we will stay with the first one for the time being. What I suggest is to cover all of that material by placing those 935 links in a list (on the to_do subpage) with 3 types: 'Good candidates', 'Bad candidates' and 'Unclear'. An example of a 'Good' article for inclusion in Java categories would be [[Jess_programming_language]], a 'Bad candidate' would be [[Computer]] and an 'Unclear' is [[Cross-platform]]. After that process, we settle the 'Unclear' and then we tag all the 'Good candidates' with Java categories. What do YOU think?<br/>-- [[User:Alainr345|<span style="display:inline-block; position:relative; top:20px;"><font face="Times" color="#4590ff" size="2"><u><i> Alain R 3 4 5 </i></u><br/><font color="#ffb000"><sup>Techno-Wiki-Geek</sup></font></font></span>]] 02:27, 1 December 2009 (UTC)<br/><br/>
**In abstentia, I moved the resulting action [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Java/Things_you_can_do|here]] (AR)<br/><br/>
== 3 ==
* Since there is not a whole lot of folks doing stuff here presently, I'll answer this one of mine gladly for you Javawees: having done researching on this subject, I don't think there are any other infobox in existence adequate for Java-related material (except maybe in rare cases). The Infobox software should therefore be added BUT only to those articles that talk about well... a piece of software. That could be done at the same time that we do the BIGTO ('BIG tagging operation'), see 1 and 2 above.<br/>-- [[User:Alainr345|<span style="display:inline-block; position:relative; top:20px;"><font face="Times" color="#4590ff" size="2"><u><i> Alain R 3 4 5 </i></u><br/><font color="#ffb000"><sup>Techno-Wiki-Geek</sup></font></font></span>]] 02:51, 1 December 2009 (UTC)<br/><br/>
**In abstentia, I moved the resulting action [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Java/Things_you_can_do|here]]. (AR)<br/><br/>
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*What do you think about that compromise?
* a) We ask them to add this in their [[Template:WikiProject Computing]]: (already done by Tothwolf)
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:::::Feel free to copy from [[Wikipedia:WikiProject IRC/Assessment|this]] assessment page if you'd like. I created that one ages ago. Don't forget about [[WP:BOLD]] ;) We should be seeing the bot begin to process [[WP:JAVA]] articles soon. It was processing [[WP:OXFORD]] stuff today and JAVA is next in the queue. --[[User:Tothwolf|Tothwolf]] ([[User talk:Tothwolf|talk]]) 00:55, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
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Not sure where to ask about this, but if you look at how I've changed [[MIDlet]] you'll see I got rid of the huge chunk of Java code. I think, for instance [[Xlet]] ought to get the same treatment, we shouldn't just have code in an article, that belongs in a book or howto. At the moment I'm getting on with the cleanup of articles that require citations and references, but it's slow going. Also, s there a general discussion page for this project? '''<span style="color:#aaa">—</span> [[User:M3tainfo|<span style="color:#0055dd">M3TA</span>]]<span style="color:#aaa">(</span>[[User_talk:M3tainfo|<span style="color:#0022aa">info</span>]]<span style="color:#aaa">) @</span>''' 07:06, 3 March 2010 (UTC) (copied from User_talk:M3tainfo)
:As far as code is concerned, I agree with you... up to a point. Looking at that Xlet article, I think the interface list would be 'bookish' (I'm not EN so pardon any crazy neologisms I could come up with...), while the example would be the one to keep. Is that your feeling? More generally speaking, you'll observe that there are Java articles with FAR more code than that and I think the difficulty in that eventual 'cleanup' would be to keep the worthwhile efforts of over-enthusiastic Wikipedians somewhere. Accessorily, there IS a Java Wikibook (however imperfect it is), the link of which is now at the end of the Java Portal. --<font face="Times" color="#4590ff" size="2">[[User:Alainr345|<i>AlainR345</i>]][[User_talk:Alainr345|<font color="#ffb000"><sup>Techno-Wiki-Geek</sup></font>]]</font> 19:10, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
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