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::Are you okay with the content of this section? If you still disagree on something it's time to bring up the issue. Or if you would like to rephrase a few paragraphs, go ahead. :-)
::If you agree with this compromise, could you comment on [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Discographies/style#Time to update]] accordingly? That way we will be able to move forward, and do the same thing with other WikiProjects. :-) Kind regards, [[User:Dodoïste|Dodoïste]] ([[User talk:Dodoïste|talk]]) 01:35, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
:::First of all, let me say that you've done an excellent job here, and it's much appreciated.
:::Next, there's no need for you to apologise, as vigorous debate between editors usually produces better content in the end. I should however apologise for often seeming intransigent in my own views – I didn't realise I was such a villain! You come to the issue of accessibility from a background of improving it for those with disabilities. While I appreciate the rigour WCAG brings to that area, my background is in systems analysis and web design, and my instinct is to emphasise the problems for users who only have older technology, limited bandwidth, etc. They don't have an organisation like WCAG to advocate for their interests, so I often need to present my own research, rather than being able to point to a source.
:::Nevertheless, I'm convinced by your arguments that "perfection is the enemy of good enough", and I'll happily go along with making improvements incrementally. It will be a long time before more than a small proportion of Wikipedians acquire anything more than a basic understanding of the issues here, and I accept that we need to "sell" these ideas slowly enough that we don't provoke rejection.
:::The content is fine, by the way. Nothing on Wikipedia is a finished work, and I expect others will eventually refine and improve what you have started.
:::I've commented at the Discographies style page, and I'm encouraged by the reception you've had there. Let me know when you approach other projects, and I'll do my best to help and to mobilise folks like Jack (who is clueful and has his heart in the right place). --[[User:RexxS|RexxS]] ([[User talk:RexxS|talk]]) 04:45, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
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