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Most ORM frameworks now should deal with simple joins very well, and even complex ones if following certain templates. The bulk deletions would require custom SQL, and probably are not well done through ORM tools -- [[User:Q Chris|Q Chris]] ([[User talk:Q Chris|talk]]) 15:16, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
:Tend to agree. (If Zend Framework can handle joins okay, surely software that ''doesn't suck'' must have gotten it by now.) What would be really awesome is if we had a source saying something about it, of course... —[[User:Chaos5023|chaos5023]] ([[User talk:Chaos5023|talk]]) 15:24, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
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