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:::Acuto come sempre Xin, su google ti do ragione, ma stavolta il tuo sembra un ''argumentum ad consequentiam'', dico sembra perché in realtà mi hai convinto, se non c'è niente da salvare giudicalo tu come pure quale sarebbe il luogo, che se non ho capito male per te dovrebbe essere "mindfulness". --[[Utente:Johnlong|Johnlong]] ([[Discussioni utente:Johnlong|msg]]) 17:10, 7 giu 2011 (CEST)

:::: Certamente è un ''argumentum ad consequentiam'' e non poteva essere altro visto che il tema di fondo, già più volte e volte esposto, ovvero il fatto che un lemma per essere tale deve comparire come tale nella letteratura attendibile, non ha sortito alcun effetto (leggi nessuna risposta); quindi mi trovo, mio malgrado, a far vedere cosa accade se utilizziamo come criterio la comparsa di espressioni su google. :-) --[[Utente:Xinstalker|Xinstalker]] ([[Discussioni utente:Xinstalker|msg]]) 17:18, 7 giu 2011 (CEST)

Sì la voce in cui si possono trattare questi temi, non come RO ma con fonti alla mano è [[mindfulness]]. A tal proposito, '''e a titolo puramente esemplificativo''', riporto le prime righe della voce "Mindfulness" della ''Encyclopedia of Buddhism'' della Gale di NY 2005 pagg. 540 e segg.:

{{q|MINDFULNESS Mindfulness (Sanskrit, smr_ ti; Pa_li, sati) is a spiritual practice that is common to both early Buddhism and early Jainism. It plays a particularly important role in the former. Two conspicuously different forms of mindfulness are found near each other in the standard description of the PATH to liberation that occurs numerous times in the early canonical sermons: one in preparatory exercises and the other in meditation proper. During the former the (hypothetical) practitioner “acts consciously while going and while coming, while looking forward and while looking backward, while bending his limbs and while stretching them, while carrying his clothes and alms-bowl, while going, while standing, while sleeping, while waking, while speaking and while remaining silent.” However, at some point the practitioner sits down, folds his legs, holds his body erect, and applies mindfulness. Applying mindfulness (Sanskrit, smr_ tyupastha_ na; Pa_li, satipat_t_ha_ na) is the precondition for the four stages of dhya_na (trance state) that follow. Indeed, mindfulness accompanies the practitioner in all of them, the fourth being characterized by “purity of equanimity and mindfulness.” Clearly mindfulness in its highest degree of purity is required for the next step: reaching liberating insight. As happens frequently in the Buddhist canon, a number of sermons present mindfulness itself or, more precisely, the applications of mindfulness as the way to liberation. Some of these sermons have smr_ tyupastha _ na or satipat_t_ha_ na in their title, and distinguish four applications of mindfulness: (1) on the body; (2) on feelings; (3) on the mind; (4) on the dharmas. The Pa_li Satipat_t_ha_ na-sutta of the Majjhima Nika_ ya makes the highest promises to those who practice mindfulness: “If anyone should develop these four applications of mindfulness in such a way for seven days, one of two fruits could be expected for him: either final knowledge here and now, or if there is a trace of clinging left, non-return.” Mindfulness also figures in the noble eightfold path, at the seventh place, just before meditative concentration (sama_dhi). This position agrees with the account found in the standard description of the path to liberation, where mindfulness is a precondition for and an accompaniment of the four stages of dhya_na.}} qui si trovano i sutra di Pipitone e il qui ed ora... La letteratura monografica sul tema non manca [http://www.google.it/search?tbo=p&tbm=bks&q=intitle:mindfulness+intitle:buddhism&num=10#q=intitle:mindfulness+intitle:buddhism&hl=it&safe=active&tbm=bks&ei=-ETuTd7kJoar-ga3g4HsBw&start=10&sa=N&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=2752ad609b00e323&biw=1366&bih=643&safe=on] a differenza del qui e ora... [http://www.google.it/search?tbo=p&tbm=bks&q=intitle:here+intitle:and+intitle:now+intitle:buddhism&num=10] che non è un lemma da nessuna parte...--[[Utente:Xinstalker|Xinstalker]] ([[Discussioni utente:Xinstalker|msg]]) 17:46, 7 giu 2011 (CEST)