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== 1995 UEFA Intertoto Cup (continued) ==
 
Hi VAN ZANT.
 
I received a reply from you, still questions remain there is no consensus, no one, and no one can write an explanation
to any tournament Intertoto Cup or Cup UEFA games are written below
 
The first part of the answer about titles and wins the Intertoto Cup
Personal pages of instructions on the site UEFA, the right side of the cup painted everywhere, look at the year
*Wacker http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/season=1995/clubs/club=52762/profile/index.html
*Strasbourg http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/season=1995/clubs/club=59857/history/index.html
*Karlsruhe http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/season=1995/clubs/club=52936/history/index.html Trophy cabinet – 2 title 1995 и 1996
*Bordeaux http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/season=1995/clubs/club=50127/profile/index.html
You wrote:
-- Also, some days ago, I contacted the German club Karlsruher Sport-Club and they confirmed me that they only won the 1996 edition, not the 1995 one.
Write to the Germans again. Let them see the page about the German club Karlsruhe where painted 2 trophy. All questions asked by members of UEFA let.
http://de.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/season=1995/clubs/club=52936/history/index.html
 
Another most burning question.
Games 1/2 Intertoto Cup finals were played with other teams playing games in the cup UEFA.
 
Games Karlsruhe - Bordeaux 0-2 2-2 and Wacker - Strasbourg 1-1 1-6, refer to the Cup UEFA. These are the official rules for the 1995-1996 season.
Maybe they have been wrongly made and had not quite logical interpretations regarding the stages of drawing UEFA Cup.
Interpretation of the rules for the next year for the new UEFA Cup tournament corrected. But you can not change history, these games have been played in accordance with the rules of the tournament, in which the paragraph number ... they say that these games are from the UEFA Cup results and statistics are included in the overall team stats But what is written in the rules of the tournament of the UEFA Cup
 
In Wikipedia, where all copied from the site RSSSF, in the 1995-96 UEFA Cup tournament
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1995%E2%80%9396_UEFA_Cup
absent among the list of matches Preliminary round
games
Karlsruhe - Bordeaux 0-2 2-2
Wacker - Strasbourg 1-1 1-6
 
Below is a list of links to the very well-known and advanced websites can not be said that the authors of them amateurs, these sites through by thousands of people, if there was an error would already bombarded with letters of the author's site about the error. But there no mistakes in this matter and they have not written since Wikipedia.
French website are the tables with summary statistics of games in European competition.http://jfoot.perso.neuf.fr/foot/data/uefaallt.html
 
The historical section of Euro season 1995-1996, these games are included in the UEFA Cup game
http://jfoot.perso.neuf.fr/foot/data/clubs/europe/EC199596.txt
C3 - tour preliminaire
KARLSRUHE SC ALL - GIRONDINS BORDEAUX FRA 0.2 2.2
FC TIROL INNSBRUCK AUT - RC STRASBOURG FRA 1.1 1.6
The results of these games (the number of games, wins, draws, losses, goals scored are summarized in the overall statistics of these teams over the years)
 
European site, the most popular among football statisticians
List of all games, including two pairs of games missing from Wikipedia
http://www.footballdatabase.eu/football.competition.(c3)-coupe-uefa.europe.1995-1996.qualification.0.en.html
(C3) UEFA Cup 1995/1996
Some of the protocols of these games, all the games belong to the of UEFA Cup
http://www.footballdatabase.eu/football.coupe.karlsruhe.bordeaux.15618.en.html
http://www.footballdatabase.eu/football.coupe.tirol-innsbruck.strasbourg.15603.en.html
 
 
Another site http://scoreshelf.com/dtcb/en/UEFA_Cup/1996
UEFA Cup 1996
Round-of-128
Girondins Bordeaux 2-2 2-0 Karlsruher SC
RC Strasbourg 6-1 1-1 FC Tirol Innsbrück
 
Show German comrades that's - the UEFA Cup 1995/96 - Karlsruher SC (GER)
http://www.rsssf.com/tablesd/duitec-ksc96.html it is written in 2003, and in 2013 did not know about it.
 
 
The site UEFA these games are.
They were written there always and always belonged to the UEFA Cup
Archived on the Web UEFA (dated 2003)
http://web.archive.org/web/20031211041658/http://www.uefa.com/competitions/UEFACup/AllTimeStatistics/Season=1995/Round=657/index.html
Tirol 2-7 Strasbourg 1-1 1-6
Karlsruhe 2-4 Bordeaux 0-2 2-2
http://en.archive.uefa.com/competitions/uefacup/history/season=1995/round=657/index.html Archived on the Web UEFA (dated 2009's)
also written in the games.
 
Links to current page 2013 I showed you. Throughout these games are written.
Do you think that in 10 years since the first publications on the UEFA website they have never been contacted, have been found and corrected some mistakes made in earlier versions, but these two pairs of games were written 10 years ago and there are now and will remain forever.
 
On these sites, these games are not
http://www.weltfussball.de/alle_spiele/uefa-cup-1995-1996/
http://www.mackolik.com/Cups/Default.aspx?id=178&season=1995/1996
 
Out of this site it is not http://kassiesa.home.xs4all.nl/bert/uefa/data/method1/match1996.html
since all the points scored in the two pairs of games are not taken into account either as a set-off in the UEFA Country Coefficients
http://kassiesa.home.xs4all.nl/bert/uefa/data/method1/ccoef1996.html
which define the representation from each country UEFA Cup, but this site is only concerned with numbers UEFA Country Coefficients, once the game did not bring in any additional credit points, and then they should not be written.
 
All the same, most of the sites, the two wrote a couple of games in the round draw of UEFA Cup, again in wikipedia they are absent.
Why do some people write and others do not, you will not read anywhere any clarification and explanation on this matter. From UEFA will not achieve anything once they briefly responded that their site is all true, and change they did not.--[[Utente:Gavrilov Sergey|Gavrilov Sergey]] ([[Discussioni utente:Gavrilov Sergey|msg]]) 22:58, 24 giu 2013 (CEST)