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:There is an '''Astronaut training''' section already in the article; if this picture belonged anywhere, it would be there. But reading the text makes it clear that this prototype would have been beat out by the [[Lunar Landing Research Vehicle|LLRV]] in 1964. We really should have a picture of that here. It might be interesting to mention the other prototype as a side note (moot, anyway, unless we can find a textual source for verification of exactly ''what'' this is), but adding this picture would probably just crowd the section. [[User:JustinTime55|JustinTime55]] ([[User talk:JustinTime55|talk]]) 14:56, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

== Is the Apollo 11 LM photo correct? ==

The photo of the Apollo 11 LM Eagle in flight shows only 3 contact sensing probes. It is my understanding that Eagle had 4 such probes. Based on statements made by Neil Armstrong after the mission that the contact probe on the leg with the ladder could have (but didn't) obstructed access to the surface, subsequent missions removed the sensing probe from the leg with the ladder attached.

Since the photo includes no probe on the leg with the ladder, this photo doesn't appear to be of the Apollo 11 LM, Eagle. --[[User:LESJet|LESJet]] ([[User talk:LESJet|talk]]) 02:21, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

:Where and when did you see/hear Armstrong's comments? If he meant to imply that his LM did have the fourth probe, his memory must have mistaken. His flight was the first one on which the extra probe was removed. It wasn't just an issue of obstructing access, but of safety. They had to be careful about sharp objects like these probes, or antennas, puncturing the astronaut's space suits. The LM's on Apollo 9 and 10 had all four probes, but luckily someone must have given it some serious thought and didn't want Armstrong to risk being killed as he was taking his first step, from a puncture of his suit by the probe sticking out by the ladder! (Take a look at the surface photos available: the probes didn't go straight down through the soil; they bent sideways, or in some cases, even stuck up at an angle. Armstrong took enough pictures to clearly show the bent probes around the side and back footpads, but not on the front one.)

:''Eagle'' was also distinguished by the reddish thermal foil on the legs which didn't appear on the other LM's, and by the pattern of its black markings on the ascent stage, which again varied from LM to LM. Compare this photo with the ones taken on the lunar surface; that's definitely ''Eagle''. [[User:JustinTime55|JustinTime55]] ([[User talk:JustinTime55|talk]]) 14:20, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

::I stand corrected! I double checked with the David Woods book and confirmed your statement above. Thanks for setting the record, and myself, straight. [[User:LESJet|LESJet]] ([[User talk:LESJet|talk]]) 02:14, 9 January 2013 (UTC)