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Expressions definable in set-builder notation make sense in both ZFC and NFU: it may be that both theories prove that a given definition succeeds, or that neither do (the expression <math>\{x \mid x\not\in x\}</math> fails to refer to anything in ''any'' set theory with classical logic; in class theories like [[Von Neumann–Bernays–Gödel set theory|NBG]] this notation does refer to a class, but it is defined differently), or that one does and the other doesn't. Further, an object defined in the same way in ZFC and NFU may turn out to have different properties in the two theories (or there may be a difference in what can be proved where there is no provable difference between their properties).
Further, set theory imports concepts from other branches of mathematics (in intention, ''all'' branches of mathematics). In some cases, there are different ways to import the concepts into ZFC and NFU. For example, the usual definition of the first infinite ordinal <math>\omega</math> in ZFC is not suitable for NFU because the object (defined in purely set theoretical language as the set of all finite von Neumann ordinals) cannot be shown to exist in NFU. The usual definition of <math>\omega</math> in NFU is
Whatever is proven to exist in a theory clearly provably exists in any extension of that theory; moreover, analysis of the proof that an object exists in a given theory may show that it exists in weaker versions of that theory (one may consider [[Zermelo set theory]] instead of [[ZFC]] for much of what is done in this article, for example).
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