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:*Hi [[user:Andrew Davidson|Andrew Davidson]]. I'm pretty sure the [[User:Kephir|nom]] hadn't read [[WP:TNT]], as it has to do with ''rewriting'' articles, which s/he is not proposing. That being said, the article still has a [[WP:RS]] problem in that while several entities have been described as "objected-oriented SQL", I've not been able to find any sources that discuss "Object-oriented SQL" as such. If you're aware of any such [[WP:RS]] along those lines, I'd be happy to reconsider my !vote. [[User:Lesser Cartographies|Lesser Cartographies]] ([[User talk:Lesser Cartographies|talk]]) 17:59, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

::* The topic is a general concept rather than a specific implementation. There seem to be numerous sources which discuss various proposals and particular instances - see the books and scholar links above - so I'm not seeing the problem. As for the nominator, they declare, "''I am a deletionist ... I have little time for content improvements''" and so presumably that's why they propose to destroy rather than improve this page. This is not our general [[WP:IMPERFECT|policy]] though. [[user:Andrew Davidson|Andrew]] ([[user talk:Andrew Davidson|talk]]) 18:04, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

:::* [[user:Andrew Davidson|Andrew]], you've stated the situation better than I did: the topic is indeed a general concept, and I think we agree that we don't (yet) have any [[WP:RS]] that discusses the general concept. I don't know how to take the implementation-specific sources we do have and write an article on the general concept without heading off into [[WP:OR]]. (There may be a way to do it that I don't know about, which is why I'm asking, not arguing.)

::::As to [[User:Kephir|Keφr]]: I rescued his nom for [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/NEC µPD7720]] over the weekend, and we've butted heads on [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/CssQuery]]. When I started out, I had a few noms here blow up in my face before I figured out what was going on. He's learning (and you're helping him to learn) that [[WP:TNT]] should be used sparingly (if ever) as a rationale, and that announcing that one is a deletionist is going to raise opposition regardless of the merits of the argument. All that aside, this kind of article isn't that uncommon, and I'd like your advice in how to deal with this instance and the general case. [[User:Lesser Cartographies|Lesser Cartographies]] ([[User talk:Lesser Cartographies|talk]]) 18:45, 25 August 2014 (UTC)