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::I totally respect that you're entitled to your opinion, [[User:68.184.193.46|68.184.193.46]], based on the reasons you cite. Unfortunately, they do not address the one issue we consider at AfD, which is the [[WP:Notability|notability]] of the subject. Everything else is a content issue to be decided elsewhere, assuming we keep the page. Under [[WP:GNG|our guidelines]], we define notability in a more technical way than might be common in ordinary usage. Here on WP, it's not enough that a subject ''seems'' notable or that we feel it ''should be'' notable. Instead, we require that others not connected to the subject must have ''taken note'' and that they have done it ''[[WP:RS|reliable sources]]'', which we define as those with reputations for fact-checking and editorial control. This is what we don't have here and why I've argued for deletion. I note that Tarver indicates there are 467 of you in his newsgroup. All that's required to establish notability would be if at least 2 of you not named Tarver could write some short articles about Shen and get them published somewhere. Why not just do that? In the meantime, you may certainly request the page be [[WP:USERFIED]] while you continue to look for (or create) sources. [[User:Msnicki|Msnicki]] ([[User talk:Msnicki|talk]]) 18:36, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
::Are the [http://www.infoq.com/presentations/Enumerable-Java-Shen-Clojure Clever, Classless and Free] talk by Håkan Råberg and the one that Aditya Siram presented [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMcRBdSdO_U Shen, a sufficiently advanced lisp] at the [https://thestrangeloop.com/ Strange Loop conference] not sufficient as "2 of you not named Tarver" presenting something about Shen? They are not articles but Strange Loop is a well known conference. [[User:Yofsotsi|Yofsotsi]] ([[User talk:Yofsotsi|talk]]) 01:00, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
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