Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shen (programming language): Difference between revisions

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:::A couple questions, Andy: Where are the reliable independent sources? Or in the alternative, what do you rely in the guidelines that supports notability without sources? Every one of the reasons you've given seems to be a reason why the article should be deleted, not kept. [[User:Msnicki|Msnicki]] ([[User talk:Msnicki|talk]]) 11:20, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

:::(Note that the following is a wild guess:) I think I know why, besides the licensing, Qi and Shen have been entirely uninfluential, thereby failing to achieve Wikipedia notability: there's little that's qualitatively unique about them except for implementation details. They are explicitly intended to be modern functional languages, adding a number of features where Lisp hasn't kept up in any base version of the language. And Shen's KL is akin to the [[SECD machine]]. [[User:Hga|Hga]] ([[User talk:Hga|talk]]) 12:07, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

:<small class="delsort-notice">Note: This debate has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Computing|list of Computing-related deletion discussions]]. [[User:Northamerica1000|N<font size="-2">ORTH</font> A<font size="-2">MERICA</font>]]^{<font size="-2">[[User_talk:Northamerica1000|1000]]</font>} 18:00, 28 February 2015 (UTC)</small>

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I think that there are enough people in the Shen group to rewrite this stub without Mark having to violate

Wikipedia guidelines by editing the article himself. I vote for a strong keep. <small>'''Note''': An editor has expressed a concern that [[User:Williriha|Williriha]] ([[User talk:Williriha|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Williriha|contribs]]) has been [[WP:CANVAS|canvassed]] to this discussion. {{#if:|([{{{2}}} diff])|}}</small> <small>— [[User:Williriha|Williriha]] ([[User talk:Williriha|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Williriha|contribs]]) has made [[Wikipedia:Single-purpose account|few or no other edits]] outside this topic. </small>

Wikipedia guidelines by editing the article himself. I vote for a strong keep.

:''"HGA's characterisation of Shen as having 'little that's qualitatively unique'"'' is a ''wild guess'' signaled by the weasel words ''"I think I know why"'', working from the observed facts and trying to figure out why Qi/Shen have made ''no'' apparent impact on the programming languages community, which might be expected to use some of its ideas if they were unique. That guess has resulted in no reply other than insult, plus now the above observation that it can do things that [[Williriha]] cannot (easily) do in [[ML_(programming_language)|ML]]. If I'm wrong, I would be interested in specifics about qualitative things that make it unique beyond implementation details, like it being a Lisp. [[User:Hga|Hga]] ([[User talk:Hga|talk]]) 22:21, 8 March 2015 (UTC)