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:<small class="delsort-notice">Note: This debate has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Computing|list of Computing-related deletion discussions]]. [[User:Northamerica1000|N<font size="-2">ORTH</font> A<font size="-2">MERICA</font>]]<sup><font size="-2">[[User_talk:Northamerica1000|1000]]</font></sup> 18:00, 28 February 2015 (UTC)</small>
*'''Comment.''' Here's the problem I have with the argument that the work represents "an important step in language development". No one's argued anyone's using Qi or Shen and the author, Mark Tarver, is an academic, so I'm inclined to test the claim of importance in the way we often do in academia, which is to ask how often the work has been cited. [https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=author%3A%22mark+tarver%22&hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C48 Here's] a Google scholar search on Tarver's papers. His paper on Qi has received only 3 citations and his paper on Shen has received only 2. Drilling down, three of those combined 5 citations are by Tarver himself, leaving these papers with ''only one citation each'' by anyone other than the author. Within the STEM disciplines, a significant paper is generally understood to be one that receives over 1000 citations. Qi and Shen are not only not important, almost no one's even noticed they exist. [[User:Msnicki|Msnicki]] ([[User talk:Msnicki|talk]]) 20:08, 28 February 2015 (UTC).
* '''Comment.'''
I think the important sense of notability re Wikipedia is - 'of interest to a significant number of people'. This is contained in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability
"The common theme in the notability guidelines is that there must be verifiable, objective evidence that the subject has received significant attention from independent sources to support a claim of notability."
Shen easily passes this test by virtue of the size of the news group and the number of threads in the group.
**There are no grounds for deletion by non-notability even by your own standards**. You're out of order according to your own rules.
Also this ridiculous 'canvassing' nonsense needs to stop. The topic is all over the Shen news group. That's the only reason I'm here. '''Strong keep'''.
* '''Strong delete''' The spiritual successor of Qi and even less notable. There don't seem to be any sources other than those authored by the languages designer. —''[[User:Ruud Koot|Ruud]]'' 10:11, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
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